Women using their voices

[RunningDeer]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
women will rule again one day , notice you have to take something away from woman to get man ...

Rather than ‘rule’, my vision is for people to work together in synergy. Where the line between teacher/student is blurred. Rather, it’s an ongoing apprenticeship for humans in evolution.

Everyone's abilities expand because of all our unique skill sets. Projects, goals, etc. are completed or evolve because there’s a flow to the community. We come together in that flow of where and what needs attention in each situation or moment. There’s no offer to fix or do. There’s union of skills/gifts/abilities.

RunningDeer <3

[Chester]

Take 100% personal responsibility for everything in your life and this issue (for you) disappears.

[Roisin]

Amethyst,

The bottom line is, what some will have you believe is a chink in your armor to successfully make it through life with courage and perseverance, is actually the place where you will find an unending reservoir of strength.

[spiritwind]

This is kind of a weird little synchronicity, for me anyway. I have a tendency when someone confronts me with something, to generally not be able to respond in like manner, especially when the other person is being demanding (such as “I want…”, or “you need to...”). I tend to either clam up or become defensive and try to explain myself. My daughter and even my husband wonder why this is so, and I have even wondered myself. I have always thought it is because I feel the need to look ahead and see how my various responses are likely to be received and whether my response will actually improve the situation or make it worse. If the other person is in a heightened state emotionally I also know that often times they can’t really hear what you are saying until they calm down. Sometimes I feel almost completely unable to respond.

I had 2 situations a couple days ago, in which I didn’t speak my truth. We are moving again so stress levels are a bit high, primarily due to the fact that moving in most cases is a lot of work and things just have a habit of not always going according to even the best laid plans. I finally decided I just needed to stop and take a break, try to see what was going on in my body instead of just trying to ignore it. I often start with my chakras/energy centers at the top and work down. When I got to my throat chakra I was not expecting what actually happened this morning.

To give a little background I must tell you about a past life in which my daughter died in a house fire. I know I was with her in that life and couldn’t really remember what happened. I always harbored this fear that I may have been responsible or that I may even have participated in some way. Well, when I got to my throat chakra and felt this energy welling up in there, like a dam breaking, and started sobbing, I knew something was going on. Then I suddenly had a vision of myself having my tongue cut out and being hung. I now know I did speak out and I paid the price. But the strange thing is, even though this memory was kind of traumatic, I felt a strange sense of relief that I had spoken up.

There are many reasons why we lose our voices. We all need to see what keeps us from speaking our truth. I am hoping now that I uncovered this memory and freed up the stuck energy from this I might be more able to speak up when needed. Sometimes it is good to walk away and think things through before responding. But there are also many situations where we need to just speak up and recognize what it is that may be sabotaging us or causing us to lose our voice. I really appreciate you sharing your experience Amethyst.

[ghostrider]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
women will rule again one day , notice you have to take something away from woman to get man ...

Rather than ‘rule’, my vision is for people to work together in synergy. Where the line between teacher/student is blurred. Rather, it’s an ongoing apprenticeship for humans in evolution.

Everyone's abilities expand because of all our unique skill sets. Projects, goals, etc. are completed or evolve because there’s a flow to the community. We come together in that flow of where and what needs attention in each situation or moment. There’s no offer to fix or do. There’s union of skills/gifts/abilities.

RunningDeer <3

I use the term rule , for when they put there foot down and say NO more War and killing , we are going to live in peace with each other and with nature , man will not get there without the influence of woman ... secretly women run the world anyway , the man usually says whatever my wife decides is fine with me ...

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Posted by Orph (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
women will rule again one day , ...

We don't need anyone "ruling" anybody, be it man or women. We need cooperation.

I agree rule was not a very good choice , how about the final say , at the end of conversations of all important matters ??? I scold myself for staying trapped in the paradigm that got us in the mess we in , in the first place ... I long for the day when we are just people , living together , working together in harmony with all things ...

[Lifebringer]

It's a very painful memory of gender suppression or expression. It's how some in the old days were taught to "shut up and let men lead." Well, you see where they've led us. They have a lot of nerve ignoring the mothers that bring life into the world. Regardless of gender a mother loves either, the same as a piece of her and the love committed to make the child. Some children are made in lust, and cheating and that thought/intent penetrates also, and you may get a sneaky or sexually curious child. NOT a sinner, but taught and brought up around it to a NORM.
I myself, was what you call the black sheep of the family. Most abused yet, patiently waiting to be free of the home. I got desperate, and married via shotgun pregnancy wedding to a abusive husband. Just saying sweetheart, this purge of pain, is gonna pass. Feel it, understand it, correct it if necessary, face it and "let it go." It's too much a burden or remembrance and can hold you here in a loop. There's lots of pain we've gone through and never understood, but, what didn't kill us made us the more stronger, eh. I feel you're a very sensitive, yearning to free yourself of this memory now, as it's pain still causes you to cry. I also know, that the pain that is caused by a soul in the material world, is felt by that soul, when the life's memory tract is played before decision of destination or judgement. WE loved our abusive parents, because nobody taught them how to love us, as nobody taught the world how to correctly love God, and Creator. WE must decide, after shedding the tears that free us, and after inhaling quite a few times, decide if we are gonna be "our private part name" or if we're to be the BOLD SOUL SISTERS OF SURVIVAL. I like the latter and live it every day. You've recognized the hurt that can happen when someone close to you, doesn't let you speak as if you're not important, of value in the world, but you are. You're a built in creator, because not only do you possess beauty, sincerity and love to pass onto offspring/generation, but you do so and still are able to share that experience with God and the ones you love. Let it go baby, it's just not worth binding you here. Talk to dad if possible about the harm, but if he's still of the same "timeline of oppression" let it go for they know not what they are doing when doing it. At least not the "full effect" of that act.

Feel it, deal with it, and let it go.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by ghostrider (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
women will rule again one day , notice you have to take something away from woman to get man ...

Rather than ‘rule’, my vision is for people to work together in synergy. Where the line between teacher/student is blurred. Rather, it’s an ongoing apprenticeship for humans in evolution.

Everyone's abilities expand because of all our unique skill sets. Projects, goals, etc. are completed or evolve because there’s a flow to the community. We come together in that flow of where and what needs attention in each situation or moment. There’s no offer to fix or do. There’s union of skills/gifts/abilities.

RunningDeer <3

I use the term rule , for when they put there foot down and say NO more War and killing , we are going to live in peace with each other and with nature , man will not get there without the influence of woman ... secretly women run the world anyway , the man usually says whatever my wife decides is fine with me

secretly women run the world anyway , the man usually says whatever my wife decides is fine with me

I'd not want a man that just ‘goes along to get along’.

man will not get there without the influence of woman ...

In partnership, I see it as mutual support and balance in voice as a natural component. Where each evolves, and they evolve exponentially from the synergy of thoughts, creativity, and action from their loving connections.

IMO: there’s a process of maturation on the unseen levels. Where we reintroduce and actively merge with the parts we’ve forgotten. And we’re coming to know, to see, of that integration in others, as well.

RunningDeer <3

[chocolate]

Spiritwind, now your story is a synchronicity for me, too.
I have to go sense why my ~throat chakra~ feels in a similar way (like welling up of energy that can suffocate me) oftentimes as you have described. I am supposedly a 'communicator', so that needs to be investigated.

I, just like Amethyst, don't compete with the male side of the world (inside or outside), but I do voice my opinion. Sometimes I even notice words come out that I understand why I have used them only later on. There is always a reason behind certain type of expression of emotion or thought, at least for me. But I have spend time in internal dialogue, and have learnt to trust my intuitive first reaction.
I try to use pure, undiluted spontaneous way of expression, but with kindness and respect to the other party, whomever that might be. Dogs, and sometimes cats, love that. A bit like the kids. Some people say it sounds kind of immature, or naive, but that is a miss-interpretation on their part, I am quite okay that way.

[Dennis Leahy]

Amethyst,

I don't have any particular thing to say, but don't want to sit silently.

I saw your video a few days ago, about making a curry sauce. It looked yummy, but I was struck with you. You just seem like such a pleasant and unpretentious soul. I'm glad you "found" and are using your voice. :~)

Dennis

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Amethyst,

I don't have any particular thing to say, but don't want to sit silently.

I saw your video a few days ago, about making a curry sauce. It looked yummy, but I was struck with you. You just seem like such a pleasant and unpretentious soul. I'm glad you "found" and are using your voice. :~)

Dennis

Yes, similar to my thoughts. A “natural” at promoting health and healing in the world. I almost suggested to have the video be placed on the TheFacesofAvalon channel.

Amethyst, in case you haven’t seen Christine’s thread, here’s post #1.

<3

[Omni]

Posted by ulli (here)
The most important thing is to educate the girls.
If necessary, give girls priority over boys, as girls will be the future mothers,
and as such they will be the first educators of the next generation.

Already in the 19th century this was religious "dogma" in the early Baha'i communities of Persia
and for propagating such a revolutionary teaching over 20,000 of the early Bahai's were tortured and killed by the Muslim population.

This part is something that interests me. Thank you for posting it. So Islam has killed off it's own form of druids/sages. I always focused on christianities history since it is so much more available to me... It's not an easy truth, but it's a welcomed one to be posted and discussed. Have you made any threads on the balai on avalon ulli? I would be most interested to see one from you.

Yet those who managed to come to the West became active in the suffragette movement and helped get American women their voting rights. European countries followed during the twentieth century.

But still, without a decent education women will vote for leaders who are deceitful,
as they lack the scholarly ability to inform themselves and investigate politicians.

So in reality giving women their voting rights could seem counter-productive.
This is why education must come first.

"As long as women are prevented from attaining their highest possibility,
so long will men be unable to achieve the greatness which might be theirs". ~'Abdu'l-Bahá

Education is not as much of a problem for women as it used to be. I don't agree with a view you post here:
So in reality giving women their voting rights could seem counter-productive.

Firstly voting is a total farce. The whole system is a farce. It's all an illusion. I vote but don't have the idea I'm actually doing my country a service(minus things like measures, like hemp for example, or legalization of cannabis).

I find the American population, educated or non, to be quite assanine and moronic.


I'll paraphrase one of my favorite quotes:
Do not let schooling get in the way of your education.

I dropped out of high school as soon as I could. I actually went to court because I was skipping school(I found it dreadful and not a place for higher learning). Looking back on it(not counting the mind control aspect) I wish I played along and did my homework to get A's and got a degree at a place like University of Oregon. A piece of paper gets you places in this civilization... Anyway my point is schooling does not mean education necessarily. A spiritually advanced person will find knowledge in life regardless of schooling.

I'm all for women having a chance at ruling the world(alongside with men). We might (a tiny bit)get that wish in a very crappy transhuman heartless woman kind of way(Hillary Clinton - sigh).

One thing of note, I was told by ETs that the US government does not have a single woman in their telepathic network that makes decisions for the world.... I think that could mean women use their hearts more. And that is not a bad thing. Granted too much heart can cloud things but that's a whole diff subject.

Re: Women using their voices:
Rosa Parks A great woman in history. Great women in history are attractive for soul mates(the kind of soul mate you incarnate with every lifetime).

[ulli]

Omni, don't want to derail Amethyst's thread.
Here is a link ( there are lots more, but this is one of the first which came up)
about the persecution of the Baha'is in Iran.
http://bahaisofvisalia.org/persecuti...ahais-in-iran/

If you google "Baha'i teachings on equal rights for women" you might find an overwhelming number of websites.

[Orph]

Posted by Omniverse (here)


I find the American population, educated or non, to be quite assanine and moronic.

Well, that leaves out my "But I didn't know" excuse.

[Natalia]

Hi all,

thank you for further replies, most of them touched me, your care, understanding, warmth and empathy. Also good advice and reminders.

At the mo still got this viral thing so not got enough energy to reply as much as I would like to (taking organic elderflower tea for it, and rest).

I agree that forgiveness is so important, yes, and I have healed a lot in that way...but I realize, not totally...it can feel that way and then there is an emotional trigger that hits the pain body...that's what happened...and strangely, even though I have cried a lot in my life (usually on my own), about other things and about my father or related, it had not been (in my adult life) about that particular memory...until that time...another part of healing to do...

There are other memories that had more of an emotional wounding effect on me that I will not share here...years later I told a few people in private and it felt better just so that someone knew and empathized...but the memories can link with each other so I also felt the power of other things that happened and the way they made me feel, too...

I hope I don't seem like too much of a victim, it's not like I don't try to take responsibility for my self and my own healing - I do, maybe sometimes I need to do it more at the time...some say let it go and I have to myself too sometimes (and sometimes I do and sometimes I need to), but those triggers come up and there is a wound that has not healed yet...sometimes to let something unhealthy go we need to replace it with something healthier...(which I have been doing, but it is an ongoing process...)...

I know that others can relate in some ways, and it's good that some of the replies have helped others.

It's so nice to share and connect sometimes on a deep level, thank you all for your support.

(edit, also, I have looked at the lessons in my experiences with my father, and have talked a bit about them in email with a friend...and so have some intuitive understanding of it, but the wound is still there...still more healing to do...)...

[Stephanie]

In partnership, I see it as mutual support and balance in voice as a natural component. Where each evolves, and they evolve exponentially from the synergy of thoughts, creativity, and action from their loving connections.

IMO: there’s a process of maturation on the unseen levels. Where we reintroduce and actively merge with the parts we’ve forgotten. And we’re coming to know, to see, of that integration in others, as well.

Lovely thoughts and words RunningDeer,for all of us to feel and share,thank you.

Dearest Amethyst,you are in my thoughts,and wanted to know how you are.
May your feelings,thoughts and being,find expression in a harmonious,strong,pure and beautiful vibration/voice.

Healing light and love,always.

[Natalia]

Posted by Sstarss (here)

In partnership, I see it as mutual support and balance in voice as a natural component. Where each evolves, and they evolve exponentially from the synergy of thoughts, creativity, and action from their loving connections.

IMO: there’s a process of maturation on the unseen levels. Where we reintroduce and actively merge with the parts we’ve forgotten. And we’re coming to know, to see, of that integration in others, as well.

Lovely thoughts and words RunningDeer,for all of us to feel and share,thank you.

Dearest Amethyst,you are in my thoughts,and wanted to know how you are.
May your feelings,thoughts and being,find expression in a harmonious,strong,pure and beautiful vibration/voice.

Healing light and love,always.

Hi Sstarss,

I'm feeling quite a bit better emotionally today, thank you

How are you? How is everyone?

[Stephanie]

As a parent,my heart is close to you in your difficult moments,and I sometimes feel apprehension...thats how I am sometimes!
But I know that your life is a sacred journey,with its growth,discoveries,transformation and possibilities.All is well,may you shine.

[Chester]

Strange I happened upon this one... for Amethyst

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=e2XgnBA2y00

Who are the "actors" in this? What does each represent? Let's explore the metaphors.