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    Default Re: Project Camelot: Simon Parkes - The Measure Of A Man

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    Look I don't believe in Mohamed or the koran, or what Buddha taught. So why should I believe in a driving instructor from putney? You sound like a fanboy, I'm not. I would just like a little more proof of the things that can be proved. I should have thought people would feel the same and especially Simon....if you can prove yourself in a fairly friendly environment like Avalon, then you are at least prepared a little, for somebody who would ask truly critical questions.

    and they are not searching questions. Did his mother and grandfather speak german? if so did they speak it at home, if not what is she doing typing up statements in German.........at least answer the simple questions before you start speaking about eith foot reptillians.

    Wow, someone who asks the difficult critical questions. He's a real tough customer. He wants answers, dammit!


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    Very interesting interview!

    A few in this forum also thought that maybe the dead on that plane were from Malaysian Flight 370 and this is what Simon is saying too. That's shocking!
    Yes. I was one of those people. It was not a very popular thought at the time lol.

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    at least answer the simple questions before you start speaking about eith foot reptillians.
    Simple questions, yes, calling for simple answers, hence a little impatience with the questioner, no more than that. Most universities have an arts faculty where you can study a range of languages to a pretty high level of proficiency. Most of these graduates then go off and find a job, not necessarily linked to their qualification, start a family or join MI6. In addition to translation, there are many jobs available where speaking a foreign language is useful, notably in business when you have foreign customers phoning in and writing etc. A language graduate does not speak the language at home any more than a science graduate talks science.

    Foreign languages used to be part of a decent education. There are also many people who learn them without proper tuition. It is an integral part of international cooperation at every level – and particularly of course at the level of diplomacy at which Simon’s grandfather was working. As it is, I shudder to think of the percentage of global business and other intercourse being conducted in poorly mastered second and third languages. No wonder this tower of Babel is in trouble. The current solution of everyone speaking English, as opposed to say Spanish or Esperanto, is far from ideal, notably because speaking English goes without saying and speaking anything else becomes an issue. The dominance of the English-speaking world is at once the cause and the effect of this little fact and, not by chance, the cause of so much grief in the world.

    There is an Italian expression, ‘traduttore traditore’ – the translator is a traitor. It means that something often gets lost in translation. But it also suggests that in situations of conflict, a bilingual person is somehow unreliable, being as it were on both sides of the fence, since such people do what they do to promote a minimum of understanding among men, and yes, that is a form of pacifism which in wartime can be viewed as treacherous. A German speaker in wartime Britain was suspect, and some of them were detained. And yet the patriotic heroes breaking codes at Bletchley Park could hardly have done their job without a smattering of German, don’t you think?

    Simon is an insider for God’s sake, from an insider family, that is the whole point of his intervention. Any insider is going to be suspect for leaking information to the outside, which is another way of being on both sides of the fence (or rather the same way). I said he made a good driving instructor. A driving instructor gets you from A to B first mostly under his steam and gradually under your own, without clashing with (crashing into) other road users. By the same token he is an excellent translator/language teacher by helping us humans to head wherever we want to go first and gradually do so without his help, and without clashing with other users of this neck of the cosmic woods.

    For all I care, Parkes may not be Simon’s real name: so what? Isn’t aheb a pseudo? It doesn’t stop me talking to you. But if you are troubled by his contact with German, don’t read my next sentence. He is also bilingual in Mantid and pretty fluent in Reptilian as well


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    Default Re: Project Camelot: Simon Parkes - The Measure Of A Man

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    Well to me anyway a lot of what Simon says is very,very vague. I would like to know his opinion of Blair and even if he is prepared to give one. As I have said before if he is a member of an illuminati family why is he

    As far as the "Illuminati" go, keep in mind that this is a secret society, one of many, that has been created by thirteen family bloodlines. The bloodlines have infiltrated all systems of power since ancient Babylon/Sumer, and the "Illuminati" is just one of their secret groups that specializes in certain agendas.
    Quote A lot of what Simon says is very vague except for the things that we cannot prove. Did his mother speak German? if so where did she learn it? if as Cidersomerst has said Simon says that they where a Jewish family from Germany then his grandfather must speak German also. Parkes is not a Jewish name, did he change his name?
    If he is in a bloodline, illuminati family then I don't think much of them if the only job he can get is as a driving instructor.
    I can't see a Rothschild or a rockafella family member doing something like that.
    A local councillor in the UK is not a member of government, only of local government the most he can aspire to is being a lord mayor, for the record I have personally known one lord mayor and several councillors, they would not know what the military, especially the secret military are doing. Maybe he does know Tony Blair, so why hasn't he said something about this?. I don't believe that he has the pulse of everything that is happening through the comrades of his grandfather who must be dead by now, and I would imagine that they are dead as well . A little proof would be much appreciated although as I say I enjoyed the interview.
    At the Bases Project Conference I asked Simon when his book will be coming out. It was written over a year ago. He said it had been rejected by 4 publishers who would only publish it if all references to 'alphabet agencies' were removed! Of course he refused, and is now in negotiations with another, possibly more agreeable publisher.

    I mention this because, aheb, a lot of your questions are probably answered in that book. If you choose to view Simon as 'a driving instructor from Putney' then I think you're falling into the trap that those who do social programming WANT you to: i.e. view others by a job they do or have done and filter their output accordingly! So simplistic, yet unfortunately so effective for many, including myself at times. It remains a constant challenge to see/feel/hear past those inserted filters.

    Regardless of Simon's connections and upbringing I apply the same BS detector when I listen/read/watch his interviews and forum posts here on PA. I am not a 'fanboy'!

    Everyone deserves to be heard, even if we choose to cherry pick what info we take on board and discard the rest. We live in a complex and confusing world, and with so much dysinfo doing the rounds, forthright people like Simon (and some of our fellow PA denizens) can help us more easily spot the weeds in the garden before they take root in our brains.
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    Default Re: Project Camelot: Simon Parkes - The Measure Of A Man

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    He is also bilingual in Mantid and pretty fluent in Reptilian as well
    Good luck that it does not require 'German classes' . What it does require is de-programming from this 'human matrix' . Most ET species have their language/s embedded in their 'DNA' .
    Unlike humans who became so uniquely differentiated and specialised over the ages of evolution here so they can't recognise and understand each other at the other end of the village,
    most advanced ETs can and have to do whatever is required from them . Living in such type of cultures for aeons allows evolution of language that is extremely complex but natural .. so at the end , also the easiest way to get across from the 'sender' to the 'recipient' .

    I've tried applying the same process when learning some human languages but it does not always work the same . It works sometimes .

    In fact , more you would probably spend in the zone of some of the advanced ET communication, more problem you may have to face with human language .
    One good reason for that is while at the core they are natural as well, though influenced by more than one root , large portions of the vocabulary and grammar are artificial constructs , and ..they have been manipulated a lot by minds and history .

    This is one of the greatest troubles with human mindsets and languages as well,
    they are fragmented and in order to function , they have to be manipulated , learned, superimposed .
    For most people , the state of 'dyslexia' is the natural state where they abide . Unless you are born remembering language, you are 'natural dyslexic ' . What you learn beyond that capacity requires second, third , fourth .. level of mind , more you learn the easier it becomes nevertheless , it's the function of your 'AI', inner construct , no matter how complex it is .

    The twist of human language/s is exactly in that they permit lying . That's what makes any language dead / artificial .

    I feel that the best we may possibly try to do , and I've seen good few of us are working on this here , is an effort to 'straighten' the workings of mind and human language to such a point where it , itself, permits truth to be spoken , expressed,
    more so for advanced truth .



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    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    at least answer the simple questions before you start speaking about eith foot reptillians.
    Simple questions, yes, calling for simple answers, hence a little impatience with the questioner, no more than that. Most universities have an arts faculty where you can study a range of languages to a pretty high level of proficiency. Most of these graduates then go off and find a job, not necessarily linked to their qualification, start a family or join MI6. In addition to translation, there are many jobs available where speaking a foreign language is useful, notably in business when you have foreign customers phoning in and writing etc. A language graduate does not speak the language at home any more than a science graduate talks science.

    Foreign languages used to be part of a decent education. There are also many people who learn them without proper tuition. It is an integral part of international cooperation at every level – and particularly of course at the level of diplomacy at which Simon’s grandfather was working. As it is, I shudder to think of the percentage of global business and other intercourse being conducted in poorly mastered second and third languages. No wonder this tower of Babel is in trouble. The current solution of everyone speaking English, as opposed to say Spanish or Esperanto, is far from ideal, notably because speaking English goes without saying and speaking anything else becomes an issue. The dominance of the English-speaking world is at once the cause and the effect of this little fact and, not by chance, the cause of so much grief in the world.

    There is an Italian expression, ‘traduttore traditore’ – the translator is a traitor. It means that something often gets lost in translation. But it also suggests that in situations of conflict, a bilingual person is somehow unreliable, being as it were on both sides of the fence, since such people do what they do to promote a minimum of understanding among men, and yes, that is a form of pacifism which in wartime can be viewed as treacherous. A German speaker in wartime Britain was suspect, and some of them were detained. And yet the patriotic heroes breaking codes at Bletchley Park could hardly have done their job without a smattering of German, don’t you think?

    Simon is an insider for God’s sake, from an insider family, that is the whole point of his intervention. Any insider is going to be suspect for leaking information to the outside, which is another way of being on both sides of the fence (or rather the same way). I said he made a good driving instructor. A driving instructor gets you from A to B first mostly under his steam and gradually under your own, without clashing with (crashing into) other road users. By the same token he is an excellent translator/language teacher by helping us humans to head wherever we want to go first and gradually do so without his help, and without clashing with other users of this neck of the cosmic woods.

    For all I care, Parkes may not be Simon’s real name: so what? Isn’t aheb a pseudo? It doesn’t stop me talking to you. But if you are troubled by his contact with German, don’t read my next sentence. He is also bilingual in Mantid and pretty fluent in Reptilian as well

    Do you know how bad language tuition in the UK is? It is very unusual for people to be bi lingual, they can only usually get by in their own language, and I mean get by, not speak fluently.
    It is very different in most of Europe where people can get by in a few languages, and especially in places like Switzerland
    where there are several languages spoken.
    You also have to remember that at the time that Simon's mother would have been alive, or speaking German, very few people with working class background would have access to any form of higher education. We still have a very pronounced class system in England.

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    I remember in this context how I found nearly impossible to put all the vast amount of information and ET experience from Bodhgaya 2002 to human words ,
    and most of it is still in fact .. stuck 'there' .
    And I have never been labeled dyslexic of any sort , I could read simple things sometime between the age of 2 and 3 and books a year or two later and no problem with writing essays and learned ( and forgot ) about 5 other languages but at the same time,
    I can exactly feel the 'communication gap' in me when it comes to connecting the ET and human minds .
    It was an awful embarrassing moment I had .. after coming back to Dharamsala , I thought I should record the data, somehow , in human terms and took out paper and pen , wrote about two sentences .. and had to throw it away , two or three times and then I stopped trying .

    Because there was very little I felt I could connect to mentally , it was full in me , in front of my eyes , like a 4 hours movie out of this world, nothing of it was 'human' .
    Every attempt I made to describe it had to end up twisted and insufficient .
    I refused this should be ever written up that time, thought it can only be 'told' and that alone to 'initiated ears' which I think, unfortunately , holds to this day .

    I was also aware of that my 'human brain' keeps transcribing the information.. it was painless process, it did not require any extra effort but peace and quiet . I can't imagine I'd have been to 'this civilisation' at that time and asked some mundane questions .
    Then they coerced me , virtually, here in Prague to writing .. because they were afraid to deal with the information . So they thought 'leave her alone to it' .
    Of course, it poses very little if any advantage . What could have taken months took years of time instead .

    Simon has good luck if he has people who understand , care about him and can relate to what he says .


    The worst that may happen to anyone ET /or those who experienced ET encounter here is that you find yourself in isolated bubble of deafening silence, outside of human noosphere ,
    where no one can possibly reach you and you can't reach to people , drifting slowly to space ..

    and the last thing one will probably recall of here are faint smiles on peoples faces ..



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    Default Re: Project Camelot: Simon Parkes - The Measure Of A Man

    Aheb, Simon's grandfather was a top diplomat, one of twelve called upon to vote on the fate of Edward VIII, hardly a working-class background I think. Trying to match the individuals we are talking about with a national profile, however accurate, is simply not going to work: we are not talking about ordinary people at all, that much should be obvious. I have nothing further to add on this subject.


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    Might I interject.. aheb, do tell us about your Self please. You are privy to many uncommon lives here on Avalon.. it takes courage to share
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    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    Might I interject.. aheb, do tell us about your Self please. You are privy to many uncommon lives here on Avalon.. it takes courage to share.
    My life is uninteresting, but I have looked at spiritual matters all my life and realised how many false prophets there are. From some who sound quite plausible to some who sound outright mad. So I question them. I am retired now but used to work in law enforcement. I attended court on may occaisions. I listened as barristers ( attorneys) questioned witnesses and defendents in a very direct and obvous manner to try to establish true facts. Because I want an objective viewpoint on things I look at both sides of the argument so hopefully I can arrive at an objective truth. This is what I have tried to do with the interview with Simon, I hold no malice for him I would just like some objectivity.

    Some members seem to have too much invested in their belief system and their heroes. I wasn't the first one to ask if Simon's mother spoke German , but I did think that it was a valid point.
    One member has offered the fact that Simon speaks two reptillian languages, is it only me? but don't you think it a bit strange that people are getting their knickers all knotted up when I ask the more reasonable question of can he speak German?
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    Default Re: Project Camelot: Simon Parkes - The Measure Of A Man

    The truth is a single point but the approaches are infinite.
    So it comes as no surprise to me that some people will have a way which differs greatly from the general crowd.
    I consider myself such a person. I have suffered throughout my life because of this. Always been an outsider, seeking to be on the inside.
    and my way of finding the Truth is to some people suspicious, as I ask the weirdest questions. And there is not always enough time to explain the full background of where I was coming from.
    So, to habitually assume to know that someone's motives and agenda are to destroy the truth...
    I find this quite wrong.
    Some truth seekers approach from the invisible 'feeling' realm, which is beyond the senses,
    while others need the measuring stick of their left brain hemisphere.
    The first group, IMO, outnumber the second group of people who participate actively here on Avalon.

    I guess if everyone decided to be a bit more patient and give the people of the other side the benefit of the doubt then we may all discover something far greater than any of us ever anticipated, least of all the ETs we are discussing here.

    ulli, who is now wondering how she would be treated were she to start bringing in her pet theories about all of us competing as myth makers.

    May the greatest myth maker win.

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    Quote May the greatest myth maker win.
    ah but that's the rub ... may universal conscious truth prevail ...

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    Just one more thing: Avalon is about science meeting spirituality.
    So scientific questioning must not offend the spiritual-minded reader, but given equal room.

    What Simon is offering here is the equivalent of the offerings of the prophets of former times, and it demands faith first and foremost.
    He is only offering his Being, his integrity, for the rest of us to come to our conclusions.

    The world today not only has the challenge of integrating science and spirituality, or science and religion, but integrate all the former religious beliefs which is where most of the real and most deadly problems stem from.

    Objectively studying the original teachings of all religions and then looking for what they all have in common,
    and then finding common ground with the newest revelations, namely Simon's experiences and other contacts,
    is a requirement of anyone who is interested in peace on earth.
    Maybe it is time for Wikipedia to add a new chapter to this
    page, with references to what we are learning here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_revelation

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    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    Might I interject.. ahem, do tell us about your Self please. You are privy to many uncommon lives here on Avalon.. it takes courage to share.
    My life is uninteresting, but I have looked at spiritual matters all my life and realised how many false prophets there are. From some who sound quite plausible to some who sound outright mad. So I question them. I am retired now but used to work in law enforcement. I attended court on may occaisions. I listened as barristers ( attorneys) questioned witnesses and defendents in a very direct and obvous manner to try to establish true facts. Because I want an objective viewpoint on things I look at both sides of the argument so hopefully I can arrive at an objective truth. This is what I have tried to do with the interview with Simon, I hold no malice for him I would just like some objectivity.

    Some members seem to have too much invested in their belief system and their heroes. I wasn't the first one to ask if Simon's mother spoke German , but I did think that it was a valid point.
    One member has offered the fact that Simon speaks two reptillian languages, is it only me? but don't you think it a bit strange that people are getting their knickers all knotted up when I ask the more reasonable question of can he speak German?
    Thank you aheb, that explains the slightly inquisitorial tone of your posts. But you see, we are not in a court of law here; we are on a forum among friends or friends of friends (that includes Simon, an active member of several years standing), and we don’t need policemen to patrol out interactions (although off-duty policemen are of course welcome). I for one don’t feel I am getting my knickers twisted by some smart lawyer, but I am not too happy that you should think that or interpret people’s posts in terms of ‘belief systems’ and ‘heroes’. There are other more sociable ways of sussing people out. You could try asking Simon nicely; do let us know what you make of his answer and why you think it proves anything.


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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    Might I interject.. ahem, do tell us about your Self please. You are privy to many uncommon lives here on Avalon.. it takes courage to share.
    My life is uninteresting, but I have looked at spiritual matters all my life and realised how many false prophets there are. From some who sound quite plausible to some who sound outright mad. So I question them. I am retired now but used to work in law enforcement. I attended court on may occaisions. I listened as barristers ( attorneys) questioned witnesses and defendents in a very direct and obvous manner to try to establish true facts. Because I want an objective viewpoint on things I look at both sides of the argument so hopefully I can arrive at an objective truth. This is what I have tried to do with the interview with Simon, I hold no malice for him I would just like some objectivity.

    Some members seem to have too much invested in their belief system and their heroes. I wasn't the first one to ask if Simon's mother spoke German , but I did think that it was a valid point.
    One member has offered the fact that Simon speaks two reptillian languages, is it only me? but don't you think it a bit strange that people are getting their knickers all knotted up when I ask the more reasonable question of can he speak German?
    Thank you aheb, that explains the slightly inquisitorial tone of your posts. But you see, we are not in a court of law here; we are on a forum among friends or friends of friends (that includes Simon, an active member of several years standing), and we don’t need policemen to patrol out interactions (although off-duty policemen are of course welcome). I for one don’t feel I am getting my knickers twisted by some smart lawyer, but I am not too happy that you should think that or interpret people’s posts in terms of ‘belief systems’ and ‘heroes’. There are other more sociable ways of sussing people out. You could try asking Simon nicely; do let us know what you make of his answer and why you think it proves anything.
    I am not a policeman, and I don't undertsand why such a simple question should provoke such responces. I have many spiritual experiences especially in the Astral, I don't get offended if people cast doubt on them. Why would anybody be upset about whether they can speak German or not?...oh and a point for Ulli.the opposite of faith is not doubt, the opposite of faith is certainty

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    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    Quote May the greatest myth maker win.
    ah but that's the rub ... may universal conscious truth prevail ...
    Yeah, this is the hub.
    And we both may have the identical image/vision in mind, yet used different words.

    Actually, I should have put one of these behind my sentence, as it needed an emoticon to describe the double meaning I was trying to convey here.
    The Myth Maker (MM) who resides behind the mask each of us carries.
    And, yeah, ultimately there is only One Myth....

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    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    Might I interject.. ahem, do tell us about your Self please. You are privy to many uncommon lives here on Avalon.. it takes courage to share.
    My life is uninteresting, but I have looked at spiritual matters all my life and realised how many false prophets there are. From some who sound quite plausible to some who sound outright mad. So I question them. I am retired now but used to work in law enforcement. I attended court on may occaisions. I listened as barristers ( attorneys) questioned witnesses and defendents in a very direct and obvous manner to try to establish true facts. Because I want an objective viewpoint on things I look at both sides of the argument so hopefully I can arrive at an objective truth. This is what I have tried to do with the interview with Simon, I hold no malice for him I would just like some objectivity.

    Some members seem to have too much invested in their belief system and their heroes. I wasn't the first one to ask if Simon's mother spoke German , but I did think that it was a valid point.
    One member has offered the fact that Simon speaks two reptillian languages, is it only me? but don't you think it a bit strange that people are getting their knickers all knotted up when I ask the more reasonable question of can he speak German?
    Thank you aheb, that explains the slightly inquisitorial tone of your posts. But you see, we are not in a court of law here; we are on a forum among friends or friends of friends (that includes Simon, an active member of several years standing), and we don’t need policemen to patrol out interactions (although off-duty policemen are of course welcome). I for one don’t feel I am getting my knickers twisted by some smart lawyer, but I am not too happy that you should think that or interpret people’s posts in terms of ‘belief systems’ and ‘heroes’. There are other more sociable ways of sussing people out. You could try asking Simon nicely; do let us know what you make of his answer and why you think it proves anything.
    I am not a policeman, and I don't undertsand why such a simple question should provoke such responces. I have many spiritual experiences especially in the Astral, I don't get offended if people cast doubt on them. Why would anybody be upset about whether they can speak German or not?...oh and a point for Ulli.the opposite of faith is not doubt, the opposite of faith is certainty
    I have no problem with that statement, aheb, if by "opposite" you mean the approach from the scientific direction.
    The scientific approach seeks certainty, and will get results by eliminating doubts, however. IMHO.
    Faith is never enough if you see yourself coming from the scientific 3D arena. Nor should it be a requirement.
    But it often is still a part of the sleuthing process. Or perhaps that is intuition. Let me think on that a bit more.


    One more thought: opposite approaches to Truth should never result in opponents trying to eliminate each other...just to clarify.
    Although it happens quite often in this competitive world.

    Maybe it is because of the amnesia, which goes like: "what was it again that I was looking for??"

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    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    I am not a policeman, and I don't undertsand why such a simple question should provoke such responces. I have many spiritual experiences especially in the Astral, I don't get offended if people cast doubt on them. Why would anybody be upset about whether they can speak German or not?...oh and a point for Ulli.the opposite of faith is not doubt, the opposite of faith is certainty
    Okay, you’re in law enforcement but not a policeman. And there are things here you don’t understand: join the club! One of the things you aren’t getting is that no one here is in the slightest offended by your questions. Another seems to be the relationship between faith and certainty. A good while back I made a post, which I subsequently reposted on the Simon thread, providing mathematical proof that far from their being opposites, certainty arises through a crazy leap of faith. This involves explaining the origin of the 1s (denoting 100% probability) in Blaise Pascal’s triangle of probabilities. All the other numbers are derived from each other, but the 1 at the top seemingly comes from nowhere, and yet the table demonstrably works.
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
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    On believing and knowing, and triangles

    10 is a triangular number: you can stack the numbers 1- 10 to form a triangle (1, 2 3, 4 5 6, 7 8 9 10, the tetraktys). 33 is three short of a triangular number: you can form a topless triangle by starting with 1 2 3, 4 5 6 7 etc. This is the 2D equivalent of a pyramid without the capstone. Why the missing capstone? It means that when you think you are at the top of any hierarchical structure you are already at the bottom of the next one up – caught in an endless string of superiors exploiting subordinates.

    This is an upside down way of doing things. There is another way.

    The philosopher/mathematician Pascal’s triangle is also incomplete, only at the bottom, not the top. The apex starts with 1, 1 1, 1 2 1, and every row is generated by adding the two figures immediately above. This triangle was designed for a betting friend of Pascal’s and is a table of probabilities. It works in the real world, and provably so: the gambler’s winnings. The question is, how did Pascal construct the apex of his triangle? Clearly the 1s down both sides come from following the rule of adding the two numbers above, i.e. 1 plus nothing.

    However by that same token, the 1 at the very top would have to be the sum of nothing plus nothing!
    Now Pascal himself was not a betting man, except for his one famous wager: ‘God exists’. Sometimes seen as a cowardly act of faith, this wager here takes the form of posing the equation 0 + 0 = 1*. But remember, you can bank on it working because it generates all the rest! Hence what started out as a leap of faith is turned instantly into dead certainty, because as soon as he writes it down in a probability table, 1 means a 100% probability! Hence ‘God’ exists as the creator of something out of nothing. From the certainty of infinite oneness at the top, it is increasing uncertainty all the way down to infinite multiplicity at the ‘bottom’.

    1, 1 1 – this is the only possible apex on the triangle or capstone on the pyramid. Understandably it sometimes goes missing… The bottomless Great Pyramid has also lost its facing stones, the 1s down the sides. Hence our journey has to be upwards (and hence outwards), unless of course you prefer the upside down pyramid symbolism and take the negative path, pretending down is up.

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    NOTE: I am not saying I have 100% faith or am 100% certain of anyone or anything. However, regarding Simon as a person as opposed to his info, I am as sure as I can be of his good faith, more than enough to be happy to exchange as friends on a forum rather than as a witness to be cross-examined.


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    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    Might I interject.. ahem, do tell us about your Self please. You are privy to many uncommon lives here on Avalon.. it takes courage to share.
    My life is uninteresting, but I have looked at spiritual matters all my life and realised how many false prophets there are. From some who sound quite plausible to some who sound outright mad. So I question them. I am retired now but used to work in law enforcement. I attended court on may occaisions. I listened as barristers ( attorneys) questioned witnesses and defendents in a very direct and obvous manner to try to establish true facts. Because I want an objective viewpoint on things I look at both sides of the argument so hopefully I can arrive at an objective truth. This is what I have tried to do with the interview with Simon, I hold no malice for him I would just like some objectivity.

    Some members seem to have too much invested in their belief system and their heroes. I wasn't the first one to ask if Simon's mother spoke German , but I did think that it was a valid point.
    One member has offered the fact that Simon speaks two reptillian languages, is it only me? but don't you think it a bit strange that people are getting their knickers all knotted up when I ask the more reasonable question of can he speak German?
    I don't think that anyones life is uninteresting.
    The thing about Simon here on Avalon is that he has offered a lot of his time and information. If you are able Aheb to spend time watching his Ammach and other interviews, of which he has had many, then you would get a better understanding of Simon's background. He has always been open about this and happy to answer questions to enable people to get a better picture.
    As I and others have said before, his mother had a privilidged upbringing and was well educated. No doubt she was selected for her work because of her natural talents at languages and her fathers connections. She was not German nor a Jew. Simon's Jewish line came unusually through his fathers line, and his mum had to become a Jew to marry his father.

    So, Aheb, if you find some people on here to be protective of Simon , it's not because they are blind followers but because they have chosen to spend a great deal of time listening to Simon, possibly getting to know him well, and asking him the questions they want answers to....and finding they can trust him. Some people like / understand what Simon has to say and others find that his words don't resonate so well with them. I have always known him to be truthful, even if the truth is hard to face.

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    Quote Posted by Becky (here)
    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    Might I interject.. ahem, do tell us about your Self please. You are privy to many uncommon lives here on Avalon.. it takes courage to share.
    My life is uninteresting, but I have looked at spiritual matters all my life and realised how many false prophets there are. From some who sound quite plausible to some who sound outright mad. So I question them. I am retired now but used to work in law enforcement. I attended court on may occaisions. I listened as barristers ( attorneys) questioned witnesses and defendents in a very direct and obvous manner to try to establish true facts. Because I want an objective viewpoint on things I look at both sides of the argument so hopefully I can arrive at an objective truth. This is what I have tried to do with the interview with Simon, I hold no malice for him I would just like some objectivity.

    Some members seem to have too much invested in their belief system and their heroes. I wasn't the first one to ask if Simon's mother spoke German , but I did think that it was a valid point.
    One member has offered the fact that Simon speaks two reptillian languages, is it only me? but don't you think it a bit strange that people are getting their knickers all knotted up when I ask the more reasonable question of can he speak German?
    I don't think that anyones life is uninteresting.
    The thing about Simon here on Avalon is that he has offered a lot of his time and information. If you are able Aheb to spend time watching his Ammach and other interviews, of which he has had many, then you would get a better understanding of Simon's background. He has always been open about this and happy to answer questions to enable people to get a better picture.
    As I and others have said before, his mother had a privilidged upbringing and was well educated. No doubt she was selected for her work because of her natural talents at languages and her fathers connections. She was not German nor a Jew. Simon's Jewish line came unusually through his fathers line, and his mum had to become a Jew to marry his father.

    So, Aheb, if you find some people on here to be protective of Simon , it's not because they are blind followers but because they have chosen to spend a great deal of time listening to Simon, possibly getting to know him well, and asking him the questions they want answers to....and finding they can trust him. Some people like / understand what Simon has to say and others find that his words don't resonate so well with them. I have always known him to be truthful, even if the truth is hard to face.
    Thanks that was all I wanted to know

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