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    Default Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    Ebola ~ written by Dr. Patrick Flanagan

    All of the data on Ebola indicates that it depletes the body of Vitamin C and then scurvy sets in causing the blood to thin with internal bleeding.

    Mega H or Megahydrate recycles and restores used up Vitamin C in the body and therefore potentiates it in the body.

    Medical researchers who have published on Ebola claim that high doses of Vitamin C help the immune system to fight the Ebola Virus. That said, taking high doses of Mega H with Vitamin C would increase the effectiveness of Vitamin C so that it would therefore multiply the life of Vit C in the body.

    I have begun taking 9 capsules a day of Megahydrate and have decided to take 9 grams of Vitamin C every day.

    In addition, it is a good idea to eat well and take a good multivitamin pill every day.

    We have never had experiences with Ebola or any other dangerous viruses.

    So we have to wait and see what happens.

    Much love from here,

    G Patrick Flanagan, MD.








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    Humans need Hydrogen to survive. It is the key to long life and anti-aging. MegaHydrate is a dietary supplement that is considered a food grade supplement rich in antioxidants by the FDA. Antioxidant foods like MegaHydrate help defy the aging process. It is safe, having been tested and shown to have no known side effects.

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    Default Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    Colloidal Silver is good for curing AIDS and cancer, but it probably won't cure Ebola. Besides, I don't accept the word of the FDA anymore; ever since they were purchased by the Rockefellers who made it known that they're all for world depopulation.

    I was told that P73 Oregano is the cure for Ebola....Maybe the Health Ranger will test that one out....

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    Lightbulb Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    I don't in any way see how the drawing schematic is any way different that a regulated supply;

    Inhaling actual nanoparticles (as what Carmody mentioned in an earlier post, happened to him accidentally), is potentially dangerous - what the author is saying his circuitry generates nano-sized particles looks like wishful thinking. To be able to analyze nano-particles and determine sizes is a highly complex very costly technique. I don't see any references as to how the author says they have determined that they are generating nano-sized particles.

    I don't see how that circuit is any different than any other conventional current regulated generator; it makes no sense circuitry wise to claim that it can create particles sized as nano.

    As to the claims where is the documentation about "cured cancer patients" - what type of cancer? Who is the patient, male female, what stage cancer.

    This to me sounds like more hype, using the buzz word NANO to get people to try colloidal silver (Large particle sizes) which the system will no doubt make over sufficient time.

    FYI - nanoparticle generators can use LASERS to make consistent particle sizes.
    Another actual method that produces active nanoparticles were develped by the Russians, using what is called ARC discharge in distilled water.

    The Laser technique:
    " In the last decade, laser ablation and nanoparticle generation in liquids has proven to be a unique and efficient technique to generate, excite, fragment, and conjugate a large variety of nanostructures in a scalable and clean manner. This editorial briefly highlights selected recent advancements and critical aspects in the field of pulsed laser-based nanoparticle generation and manipulation, including exemplary strategies to harvest the unique properties of the laser-generated nanomaterials in the field of biomedicine and catalysis. " (Source)

    The ARC technique:
    Russians have designed reliable 20-35 nanometer silver nanoparticles (NPs) using the proper current method, which is not micro-currents as shown in "colloidal silver generators", but high pulsed currents to create regular repeatable sized particles. The work was reduced to practice by the Taiwanese as shown in the following PDF.



    The transparent solution during operation converts to a characteristic pale yellow color and then a silver suspension is created.

    Proper particle sizes for disinfection purposes need to be larger than 5 nanometers. 20-30 nanometers is effective. Lower sizes damage dna strongly, larger size nanoparticles remain in the cell wall to nucleus region.

    Analysis of Particle size (accepted industry standard technique):
    2.4. Ag nanoparticles characterization - A Field Emission Scanning Electron Microscope (FE-SEM, HITACHI S4700) was used to demonstrate the silver nanoparticles’ size distribution.

    Several drops of silver colloid were deposited on a conductive silicon wafer and then the sample was gently dried on a heating plate. The secondary electron SEM image was taken. To study the optical properties of the Ag nanoparticles, a double-beam UV-VIS spectrometer (9423UVA1002E Helios Alpha) was applied in the range of 200-700 nm. A 1 cm optical wide cuvette was used at room temperature.

    3. RESULTS AND DISCUSSION
    Fig. 4 shows the SEM image of the silver nanoparticles. Fig. 5 shows the size distribution of the silver nanoparticles calculated from the SEM image. Fig. 5 shows the TEM image of the silver nanoparticles. Fig. 6 shows the size distribution of the silver nanoparticles calculated from the SEM image. As can be seen, Ag particles 20-30 nm in size dominate.




    Biocidal particle sizes and their studied effects:
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    Intravenous administration of 24-28 µg of silver nanoparticles (20, 80 and 110 nm particles) for up to 5 consecutive days in rats led to distribution of particles to many organs and accumulation in lung, liver and spleen.

    The smaller particles distributed mainly to the liver and the larger particles mainly to the spleen (Lankveld et al., 2010). Similar experiments in mice using 12 nm silver particles radiolabelled with iodine-125 also showed predominant accumulation of particles in the spleen and liver at 24 hours post exposure (Chrastina et al., 2010).

    Four different sizes of uncoated silver particles (22, 42, 71 and 323 nm) were administered at 1 mg/kg bw/day in the diet of mice for 14 days. Silver from smaller particles (22-71 nm) translocated to blood, accumulated in various organs (brain, lung, liver, kidney, and testis) and induced inflammatory responses.

    [..] inflammatory responses were seen at all doses..

    All treated groups showed significant dose-dependent increase of silver in blood, stomach, brain, liver, kidney, lungs and testes, with two fold higher concentrations in female kidneys compared to male kidneys (Kim et al., 2008).

    Genotoxicity of 5 - 45 nm silver particles (average 19.7 nm) was tested using a Comet assay in human peripheral blood cells and in mice (Tavares et al., 2012). The in vitro Comet assay showed DNA damage at all doses (10, 25 and 50 µg/mL) in the initial hour of exposure..

    There are three rodent studies investigating the effects of silver nanoparticles on the brain and blood brain barrier function. Rats with 6 hours inhalation exposure to 15 nm silver particles (cumulative dose of 7.2 μg) showed increased silver concentration in the brain and the olfactory region immediately and one day after exposure (Takenaka et al., 2001).

    Silver nanoparticles significantly increased cell death through an oxidative stress related mechanism in mammalian cells (Hsin et al., 2008), LDH leakage and reduced mitochondrial function in mouse C18-4 germline stem cells.

    A significant decrease in mitochondrial function was shown in hepatic cells after single exposures to 15 and 100 nm silver nanoparticles at concentrations ranging from 5-50 µg/mL (Hussain et al., 2005).

    Cytokines as mediators of cell immune responses are considered to be good indicators of toxic effects. Changes in the production of many cytokines have been observed from exposure to different concentrations and sizes of silver nanoparticles.

    Increased production of tumour necrosis factor-α (TNF-α), macrophage inhibitory protein-2 (MIP2) and interleukin 1β (IL-I β) in alveolar macrophages (Carlson, 2008); changes in production of of IL-8 and IL-6 at different concentrations of silver nanoparticles in human mesenchymal stem cells (Greulich et al., 2009) and statistically significant. TNF increases for instance happen with MANY INVADING VIRI infections, ebola in particular.

    An in vitro assay tested the haemolytic potential of unbound silver particles in human blood to investigate properties contributing to red blood cell damage.

    Silver nanoparticles were evaluated for cytotoxicity using human dermal and cervical cancer cell lines. The nanoparticles induced elevated levels of oxidative stress, glutathione depletion and damage to cell membranes. Significant differences were observed depending on the cell line which related to their natural antioxidant levels (Mukherjee et al., 2012).

    Clear size and dose-dependent cellular toxicity was reported for all tested cell lines. Greater ability to induce apoptosis in MC3T3-E1 cells was seen for 10 nm particles compared to other two sizes tested. (the smaller the deadlier to human healthy cells).

    WHY INGEST NANOPARTICLE?

    They are EXTERNAL biocides, able to effectively kill cells. They don't differentiate between human cells and bacteria cells. Silver nano-biocides (Nanoparticles are especially strong biocides) kill. No question. They kill human cells, affect brain and nervous system, destroy essential liver immunity and detoxing mechanisms. I will not use a silver nanoparticle product.
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    Default Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    Most of this post has been deleted because I am "sitting on the fence" concerning CS.

    Source material was originally copied from
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    Lightbulb Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    "Using the nanosilver to kill ebola, sorry the patient died from nanoparticle induced cellular oxidation, exacerbated immune system shut-down (destroyed liver glutathione), excessive apoptosis (cell death and DNA damage, unable to repair itself. ) "

    Very easy to make that statement after reading this article, from the Annals of Environmental and Agricultural Medicine - 2013.. NEW studies.

    http://aaem.pl/fulltxt.php?ICID=1041674 (Source)

    It starts with a title of "Silver nanoparticles – allies or adversaries?"

    It emphasises the ability of the nanoparticle to kill healthy cells is a function of its size. The smaller the deadlier..

    Particles over 300 nanometers (not nanoparticles, but typical of larger clumped colloidal silvers) are apparently not capable of killing the healthy mammal cell, but that it is only when the size decreases in to the NANO-PARTICLE RANGE <100 nanometers does the danger region open up.

    Nanoparticles about 50 nanometers in size won't get into the DNA, but will penetrate the cell wall, and lodge in the energy production mechanism of the cell. It will then interfere with cellular respiration, energy conversion, waste elimination.. after a while the cell with such infiltration will die due to inability to function properly.

    Their summary, nanoparticles (nanosilver specifically) poses an environmental and human public health hazard. They had NO complaints about larger particles (larger colloidal clumps).

    Quote "The presented study reviews data concerning the biological effects of AgNP in mammalian cells in vitro: cellular uptake and excretion, localization in cellular compartments, cytotoxicity and genotoxicity. The mechanism of nanoparticle action consists on induction of the oxidative stress resulting in a further ROS generation, DNA damage and activation of signaling leading to various, cell type-specific pathways to inflammation, apoptotic or necrotic death. In order to assure a safe application of AgNP, further detailed studies are needed on the mechanisms of the action of AgNP on mammalian cell lines at the molecular level."
    The size-dependent cellular toxicity of AgNP 10, 50, and 100 nm and cell death type were examined in MC3T3-E1 and PC12 cells.

    The cytotoxic effect was size and dose dependent as well as cell type dependent: the treatment caused apoptotic death in the MC3T3-E1 cells, and necrosis in the PC12 cells.

    AgNP (10 nanometer) were more toxic than the larger (50 and 100 nm) particles.

    In other words, healthy cells are damaged with smaller particles (bad move to go smaller...)

    They did find an ANTIDOTE to nano-toxicity of nanosilver, N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) prevented the significant ROS (reactive oxygen species) increase noted in human Chang liver cells treated with AgNP (28 -35 nm).

    Similarly, a strong protective effect of antioxidants from Gentiana asclepiadea flower and haulm extracts was observed in HEK 293 cells treated with AgNP (20 nm): oxidative DNA base lesions and strand breaks were considerably diminished.

    POTENTIALLY THEN if it is just not that the silver forms a tight bond with the THIOL (sulfurs), (present in the cysteine), it may work with other viri which are creating strong oxidation.. I would think both this flower extract, AND the cysteine compounds might be good to deal with both nano-silver toxicity, AND potential viral damage. Do remember viri ARE nano-particles.

    Under environmental stress, the cell reacts by increased ROS generation and this leads to imbalance between ROS generation and their neutralisation by antioxidative enzymes and low molecular weight antioxidants, among others by glutathione. Silver in the cell destroys glutathione.

    This disturbance of the redox equilibrium is defined as oxidative stress. Under conditions of oxidative stress the cell accumulates ROS, and the antioxidative response that follows involves modifications in signalling pathways, among them – activation of mitogen activated protein kinases (MAPK) and release of pro-inflammatory cytokines. ROS are highly reactive and thus, able to modify cellular components, among them DNA. The oxidative damage thus inflicted leads to genotoxic effects. The GENES are disturbed or destroyed. The cell will try to compensate by turning on mechanisms to try to recreate a proper gene code (kind of like a cyclic redundancy check mechanism in repairing damaged data on disk drives).. With the repair mechanisms damaged cancerous situations, or cell death can happen.

    In the already mentioned human cell lines, lung fibroblasts (IMR-90) and glioblastoma (U251) after AgNP (6-20 nanometer particle sizes, 25 µg/ml) treatment induced chromosomal aberrations. Their frequency was significantly higher in U251 cells than in the fibroblasts, corresponding with the DNA breakage level.

    Their summary:
    As in the case of other nanoparticles, the most important effect apparently is the oxidative stress. The enhanced generation of ROS affects the mitochondrial respiratory chain and increases the amount of unfolded and misfolded proteins in the endoplasmic reticulum (ER), inducing the ER stress and the unfolded protein response (UPR). Both these types of cellular damage lead to a further ROS generation, DNA damage and the activation of signaling resulting in various, cell type-specific pathways to inflammation, apoptotic or necrotic death.

    Who would want to have their healthy cells damaged by nanoparticle silver? In the minimum brain inflammation (brain fog and confusion), meningitis like symptoms, premature cell aging, damage liver and kidneys, damaged lungs, cell sites with potentially impaired repair mechanisms that can lead to cancers, damaged proteins which could become toxic, problems with cellular respiration, problems with weakness.. it goes on and on.

    OLD STUDIES from the 90's and 2000's didn't get to look at the specific damage mechanisms which are now starting to be looked at. It doesn't look good for nanosilver at all. Rule of thumb - the smaller the deadlier.. stay away from small..

    Update on the flower extracts mentioned above:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22124976 (Source)

    Abstract
    "The objectives of this study were to examine whether the alcoholic and aqueous extracts from the haulm and flower of Gentiana asclepiadea exhibited free radical scavenging and protective (antigenotoxic) effect against DNA oxidation induced by H(2)O(2) in human lymphocytes and human embryonic kidney cells (HEK 293). All four extracts exhibited high scavenging effect.."

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    Default Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    Whew! Thank you all for sharing. Many are saying the same thing from their own perspective and cultural beliefs. Its great!
    I've learned this minute that Nano and colloidal silver are different, and that nano (and whatever in that vaccine) could be really bad. Right? I will have to go over your info on Nano silver as I haven't researched it as yet.
    It is disconcerting tho about how that environmentalists (bogus feeling blog) groups together all kinds of silver. Makes me want to buy a ton of it now! Thankfully I do know a great family who makes it. I love learning about particle size and will check it out more.

    Let all immune systems be healthy and strong and balanced!

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    Quote Posted by angelichuman (here)
    Whew! Thank you all for sharing. Many are saying the same thing from their own perspective and cultural beliefs. Its great!
    I've learned this minute that Nano and colloidal silver are different,

    and that nano (and whatever in that vaccine) could be really bad. Right?

    I will have to go over your info on Nano silver as I haven't researched it as yet.
    It is disconcerting tho about how that environmentalists (bogus feeling blog) groups together all kinds of silver. Makes me want to buy a ton of it now! Thankfully I do know a great family who makes it. I love learning about particle size and will check it out more.

    Let all immune systems be healthy and strong and balanced!
    In Post 24 above, the silver maker is claiming that their generator will create NANO-PARTICLES of 2-3 nanometers, highly in the deadly size range. Just to keep things in perspective.

    Later in the article he uses the word COLLOIDAL silver, and doesn't emphasize that the product he is creating is a nano-particle, not a large colloidal silver oxygen cluster. That is the issue as I see it.

    IS he making nanoparticles? He claims he is, and if he is I would not try or use or experiment with his design or product. I am not interested in exposing myself to nano-particles..

    --->> this is the key concept - PARTICLE SIZE IS EVERYTHING..
    • small particles get into places they shouldn't. Nanos are very very small..
    • big particles have different chemistry, and are more typical of what we understand a substance to be.

    Nanos bust thru cell walls and don't discriminate if the cells are listeria or lung cells, or liver cells. Very small nano-particles of silver assault DNA, and that being damaged, the cell is virtually marked for death shortly if it doesn't turn cancerous first.

    Safe colloidal cluster generators will create particles generally attached to OXYGEN molecules which are very large, about 300 nanometers in size. Those won't puncture cells. The colloidal cluster generator would have large particles, not nano-particles.

    ===========================

    quotes from post 24 above:

    Quote After much experimentation to create the smallest of silver particles, Jim discovered that a very low current produced the result he wanted, the particle size being distributed around 2 nm to 3 nm,
    Quote So at 3 volts it will take 24 hours to make 5 PPM colloidal silver that is perfectly clear ( looks just like water, but tastes metallic ). That indicates very small particles.

    This solution appears to be very stable and can be put in direct sunlight without any deterioration. For those who would like a stronger solution, you may cook for 2 days and get 10 to 15 PPM.

    After 3 days a maximum is reached and it seems that you cannot "over cook" using this method. What will happen is the saturated solution will try to plate out and accumulate on the negative wire.
    The Russian Taiwanese design mentioned in post 23 which actually DOES generate silver nanoparticles says the COLOR of the final is actually PALE yellow, which leads me to believe what is being made by the micro-current technique is not true nanoparticles.

    True nanoparticle production is using either a chemical technique to basically precipitate out silver metal of small particle size into solution, or using the laser technique, or using the ARC technique.. (post 23) - if it was so easy to make, everyone would be using 3 each 9 volt batteries and a few strips of silver ribbon or wire. The manufacturers are using the correct methods to make the nano-sized particles.

    DEF: COLLOID - a homogeneous, noncrystalline substance consisting of large molecules or ultramicroscopic particles of one substance dispersed through a second substance. Colloids include gels, sols, and emulsions; the particles do not settle and cannot be separated out by ordinary filtering or centrifuging like those in a suspension. (If running the generator in post 24 for more than a couple days is causing settling out or plating, it is not making nano-colloids..)
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    Wow Bob, thank you for the perspective on nano silver. I am also feeling that nano silver might be harmful to cells. Because everybody talked only about colloidal silver kills bacteria and viruses. But never have given any explanation on how it got excreted out of body.

    And if they have talked about the elimination of these silver particles out of body, it was not detailed and they were just giving explanation that silver forms salts and therefore got excreted out of the body. But what about the those particles that enter into the cell membrane, before ever getting converted into any salt. How would they be excreted out of the cell. Therefore I am also thinking that nano silver or colloidal silver is not a good option of maintenance of healthy body.
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    Lightbulb Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    Quote Posted by kanishk (here)
    Wow Bob, thank you for the perspective on nano silver. I am also feeling that nano silver might be harmful to cells. Because everybody talked only about colloidal silver kills bacteria and viruses. But never have given any explanation on how it got excreted out of body.

    And if they have talked about the elimination of these silver particles out of body, it was not detailed and they were just giving explanation that silver forms salts and therefore got excreted out of the body. But what about the those particles that enter into the cell membrane, before ever getting converted into any salt. How would they be excreted out of the cell. Therefore I am also thinking that nano silver or colloidal silver is not a good option of maintenance of healthy body.
    Hi kanishk -
    I recall one of the substances which plug up the cell called Lipofuscin.. (Source)

    In aging studies, and Life Extension research, some of the situation with premature body death comes from stuff clogging up the cells, substances which are inert, then plug up the energy production mechanisms... (Do look at that link to the Abstract, it is very important data)..

    For proper cell functioning, respiration, the transferal of wastes out, energy production molecules IN, and a proper healthy repair mechanism needs to be operating.

    If the clearing organs (liver, kidneys) are overwhelmed by dead cells (due to toxicity), and the key enzymes destroyed by their production cells being destroyed, then the whole body is put into toxic overwhelm. There is no way to get the silver out whence it is deposited.. It becomes like an indelible tatoo, permanent until the cell dies, and the scavenger cells try to remove the debris, and then THEY have to deal with the silver, and try to not succumb.. It's a nasty cycle. One hopes that the bone marrow can produce enough red blood cells which will eventually de-differentiate into other cells as needed and hopefully those new cells won't be polluted with penetrating silver..(or any other substance).

    I can get into a very long discussion of the repair mechanisms, how to turn it on (or off), and what happens. I researched life extension sciences since 1968.. and I've kept up with what's what. Cellular oxidation is the killer, as cited in the article above about what silver does when it is INSIDE the cell, excessive oxidation happens, and the DNA is messed with if the particles are small enough to attack the DNA.

    A large particle silver coating on the OUTSIDE of the cell (transferred using large >300 nanometer particles), creating a coating like one atom thick, could create an ionic repeller zone I believe, and it is possible that a proper silver complex molecule could do that safely, something to coat the outside of the cell walls like a shield, repelling viruses electrically. (from the charge differences).. That means a silver compound would have to be created, with a very select size not to puncture the nucleus of the cell, nor the cell wall. There are plenty of bacteria which use that mechanism to actually HIDE from the body's immune system, so that somewhat shows that the principle is not just a theory, but an actual organism uses a "shielding/hiding mechanism"..

    The deadly nano-silver bullets don't care who they kill, no lone ranger firing them at the bad guys.. that's the issue. I believe it is possible to make the proper silver compound with the proper size.
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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    Most of this post has been deleted because I am "sitting on the fence" concerning CS.

    Source material was originally copied from
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    Hi Ron, I left up the quotes from within the link, because it is informative, that the designer, Jim, was feeling he was creating 2-3 nanometer silver particles. If that type of microampere technique can create nano-particles that are so small, it is important to understand that "silver makers" could do that, and inadvertently be creating seriously dangerously sized particles. I personally don't think they can make 2-3 nanometer sized particles with that circuitry; that "some other phenomenon" was happening if he had some tests that he believed showed nanoparticles.

    I personally don't believe a lightmeter is going to SIZE 2-3 nanometer silver particles but only give some indication of concentration of "something" in the water, and the calibration of the lightmeter would be dependent on a conversion scale assuming a known particle size.

    The accepted nano-particle sizing technique is a very expensive, complicated Field Emission Scanning Electron Microscope (FE-SEM, HITACHI S4700 is one model). The technique has to be modified to look at the particle size and the bottom limit is a function of the scanning beam. A type of harmonic mixing is looked at, similar to a dark field microscope to look at the smaller particles.. SO the bottom end of particle analysis requires a very complex analysis method, not cheap, and time consuming..

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    Default Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    Thank you! Im glad you are so scientific and smart! Its great to have friends like you.

    I myself have taken COLLODIAL Silver, and it has saved my life. I had a throat infection a few times.. Anyways with this new information, I can deduce which brands, makers, and people have the correct particle size. I will have to re-read this to have it permanently in my mind which size is best. This student remembers - that silver actually coats the outside of the cell making it impermeable to viruses, etc.. )hopefully that's right! ) and if its too small of a particle that's bad, because it enters the cell.

    I prob should have reread it first, but Im just drinking my coffee! :0)
    thanks~

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    From the article Colloidal Silver and the Ebola Hysteria
    Steve Barwick, author
    "The Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual"


    Colloidal Silver and Ebola: What We Know So Far

    Which, finally, brings us to the topic of colloidal silver and Ebola. Here’s the good news:

    Back in 2008, the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) in conjunction with several other federal agencies quietly conducted clinical research into the use of silver nanoparticles against Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses.

    And what they found was astonishing. They discovered that silver nanoparticles were highly effective against these deadly viruses, including the Ebola virus.

    They later presented their findings to federal health regulators and other national health authorities. But it was all kept top secret. The presentation was called “Silver Nanoparticles Neutralize Hemorrhagic Fever Viruses.”

    And the gist of the presentation was that silver nanoparticles displayed “powerful neutralizing effects against hemorrhagic fever viruses,” including Arenavirus and Filovirus (i.e., Ebola).

    This clinical presentation was conducted under the auspices of the DOD’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) and the U.S. Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM) Center for Combating Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    And the presentation was given by researchers from the Applied Biotechnology Branch, 711th Human Performance Wing of the Air Force Research Laboratory.

    In other words, those are the big guns, folks! Which is to say, those are the very people responsible for keeping this nation safe from outside threats like bioterrorism.

    That clinical presentation, made to federal regulators and national health authorities, was later summarized in a printed document, de-classified, and cleared for public release.

    But there was no news media hoopla surrounding the release of this information. Not a peep.

    And to this very day, to my knowledge, there still hasn’t been a single report in the mainstream news media on the release of this important information, in spite of the fact that Department of Defense researchers found antimicrobial silver to be profoundly effective against Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses, under certain circumstances which we’ll discuss below.

    Before we get into the results of this research, as documented in the published version of the DOD presentation, it’s important to note that one of the main tasks of the DOD’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency is to “anticipate and mitigate future threats long before they have a chance to harm the United States and our allies.”

    In other words, the researchers were specifically looking for ways to stop Ebola or other hemorrhagic fever viruses from damaging our national security.

    And the results they found when using silver nanoparticles for that precise purpose were strikingly positive -- enough so to warrant not just the presentation to health and regulatory authorities, but its later publication and public release.

    What Researchers Discovered

    The researchers tested silver nanoparticles of several different sizes and concentrations on infected cells in vitro (meaning, in the test tube).

    And they concluded that silver nanoparticles were able to neutralize hemorrhagic fever viruses inside the cells by “decreasing S segment gene expression and concomitantly decreasing progeny virus production.”

    Translation: Silver stops the Ebola virus and related hemorrhagic fever viruses from replicating inside the cells. And when there’s no viral replication inside the cells, there’s no spread of infection!

    The researchers had discovered the holy grail Ebola treatments. But they also discovered that neutralization of the virus by silver occurs during the early phases of viral replication.

    Therefore, they pointed out that for antimicrobial silver to be effective against Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses, the treatment would have to be administered PRIOR to viral infection or at least within the first few hours after initial exposure to the virus.

    In other words, for antimicrobial silver to be effective, an exposed person would need to have already been taking it, or at the very least would have to start taking it within a few short hours of exposure to an infected individual.

    Another interesting thing the researchers discovered is that while an enzymatic protein called Cathepsin B has been shown to play an essential role in Ebola virus replication, silver nanoparticles work to decrease cathepsin activity, thus further limiting viral replication in the cell and subsequent spread of the virus to other cells.

    And by far the most interesting thing the researchers discovered (at least, to me) is that only very low concentrations of silver nanoparticles were necessary to prevent replication of the virus.

    Indeed, low concentrations of 10 ppm nanosilver appears to have worked better than higher concentrations of 25 ppm or 50 ppm nanosilver. This means there’s no need for overly high silver concentrations.

    What’s more, the smallest silver particles tested by the researchers worked far better than the larger silver particles tested.

    This demonstrates once more that the use of very small silver particles is far more important than the “ppm” or concentration of the colloidal silver solution one is using.

    Simply put, smaller silver particles penetrate cells and tissues easier, and are therefore better able to get to the point of infection before the virus spreads.

    Here's a link to the printed version of the DOD clinical presentation, so you can scroll through it and read it for yourself. It’s technical. But if you take your time it’s relatively understandable.

    for links and further reads,
    http://thesilveredge.com/colloidal-s...l#.U_tJQ2ccTmS
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    Default Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    Killing healthy cells IN-VIVO (in the body) with silver is what nanosilver does. The posts in this thread have pointed this out.

    Saying over and over that test tube studies (in VITRO), kill ebola-like viruses is meaningless. That says it is a great pesticide/disinfectant, nothing more..

    Tests IN-THE-BODY (in-vivo) show that it kills healthy cells, which is typical of a pesticide. Tests OUTSIDE the body (in-vitro) shows that it kills healthy human cells (and some bacteria, and fungi and viruses). It KILLS indiscriminately.

    Carbolic Acid kills bacteria In-VITRO, kills viruses In-VITRO (Phenol).. It was used in Spic-N-Span and is still used worldwide in third world countries as a disinfectant. BUT if taken IN-VIVO, it kills the cells with NO discrimination.

    That is the issue, lack of ALL the data, and spreading PARTIAL information for some AGENDA.. Be responsible, get ALL the data.

    Attempting say in-vitro (in the test tube testing), is in any way like in the body testing for safety, is ridiculous.

    It is established that as a surface cleaner nano-silver would be adequate if it were combined with hydrogen peroxide. US EPA recognizes nano-silver AS A PESTICIDE.
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    Lightbulb Re: Potential of silver to treat Ebola

    FDA says THAT'S IT

    (Enough with the claims that Ebola can be treated/cured by essential oils, or nano-silver..)

    (Source for the following Article)

    "One company targeted by the FDA, Natural Solutions Foundation, had materials on related Web sites promoting the company's products as cures to several serious diseases and viruses, including Ebola.

    "On one YouTube video posted to the Natural Solutions Foundation account, the written text complains that the "WHO, FDA, the New York Times, etc., have gone on a rampage of disinformation [sic] to keep you in the dark about natural ways to dispose of dangerous microbes without damaging your beneficial bacteria."

    "The video features Rima Laibow, the company's medical director, claiming that the Natural Solutions product, Nano Silver, can "inactivate viruses like the HIV Virus, the Hepatitis B and C virus, Influenza viruses like H1N1, and Ebola virus."

    "According to the FDA, all three companies have 15 days to respond to the documented violations and notify the agency of any corrective actions. If the companies are unable to correct those violations within 15 days, they're required to explain why and provide a timeline for completion."

    "If they don't take corrective action, the FDA could take any number of enforcement actions against the companies. Those include seizure, or possible criminal charges."

    The FDA also went after Young Living Essential Oils, and dōTERRA International LLC , besides Natural Solutions Foundation with warning letters.

    The FDA essentially pointed out: "The products in question, the letters note, are not FDA-approved drugs, yet their marketing makes the sort of claims that only approved drugs may make -- that they can be used to treat, mitigate, prevent and cure diseases." (there are other letters to others in violation of FDA rules on the referenced site as well).

    ===================

    The letter to Natural Solutions Foundation:

    Reference #14-NWJ-11

    Dear Dr. Laibow:

    This is to advise you that in August 2014 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the United States Federal Trade Commission (FTC) reviewed your websites at http://www.drrimatruthreports.com and http://www.nsfinarketplace.com, from which you take orders for several of your products, including your "Dr. Rima Recommends™ The Silver Solution" (also referred to as "Silver Sol Nano Silver™") and "CBD Organic Dark Chocolate Bars" (also referred to as "High Potency CBD Hemp Oil™"). You also sell these two products together as a "Personal Protection Pack" and "Family Protection Pack."

    Based on FDA's review, we have determined that your websites promote these products for conditions that cause the products to be drugs under section 201(g)(1)(B) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) [21 U.S.C. §321(g)(1)(B)].

    The therapeutic claims on your websites establish that the products are drugs because they are intended for use in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease. As explained further below, introducing or delivering these products for introduction into interstate commerce for such uses violates the Act.

    Examples of some of the claims from your website, that provide evidence that your products are intended for use as drugs include:http://www.drrimatruthreports.com,

    On the home page you have a YouTube video embedded titled, "URGENT MESSAGE to EBOLA-STRICKEN NATIONS' HEADS OF STATE." In the video you state:

    • "As of now it is said that there is no treatment against Ebola, and that is not true. In fact there is a well-known, well characterized, nutrient. That is Nano Silver.... [I]t does kill every pathogen against which it has been tested, worldwide, without exception. There is no other effective solution ...Nano Silver ...is unlimited in its effectiveness ...[and is a] safe, non-toxic ...and available solution against Ebola and every other communicable disease...." (00:35- 2:12)

    On your "Smoking Gun: US Suppressing Ebola Therapy Since 2009" page, which is accessed from a link on your home page:

    • "2009 DOD Funded Study Finds Nano Silver Inhibits Ebola Virus"

    • "[] US GOVERNMENT RESEARCH SHOW[S] THAT THERE IS A CURE FOR EBOLA ...AND IT IS NANO SILVER. ..." ·

    • "They DID come up with a cure, prevention and treatment for it [Ebola]: 10 PPM Nano Silver."

    • "[] Nano Silver at 10 PPM IS the definitive prevention and therapy for Ebola virus...

    • [T]here is a cure, treatment and prevention for Ebola virus"

    • "[N]ano silver was known ...as the definitive antiviral agent against Ebola virus[]"

    • "[] NANO SILVER, at 10 PPM, effectively kills the Ebola virus."

    • "[T]here IS a ...cure and prevention for Ebola Virus."

    • "[T]he CBD will alleviate the terrible pain of the disease while the silver works its wonders...."

    On your "Dr Rima Recommends™"page, which is accessed from a link on your "Smoking Gun: US Suppressing Ebola Therapy Since 2009" page:

    • "Conventional Antibiotics won't do much against genetically engineered or resistant organisms.... But safe, gentle and effective nano silver kills disease organisms in a different way- and works against everything it has ever been tested against. ...This is powerful natural protection you need for yourself ad [sic] your family. Choose the Personal Protection Pack or the Family Protection Pack...."

    • "Silver Sol Nano Silver™, the 'Universal Infection Solution'.... It kills only the organisms that cause disease.... Item its a frequency similar to the lamps in hospitals that kill deadly germs ...and also interferes with the metabolism of the disease organisms in such a way that they cannot become resistant to it."

    Under the "Breaking News" heading on your home page you provide links to: The page, "Ebola Threat: Dr. Rima Recommends Nano Silver!":

    • "[T]here is good reason to believe that there already is a natural solution for, and prevention against, the terrifying novel Ebola virus.... That nutrient substance is Nano Silver...."

    The page, "Dr. Rima: 'Why the UN, CDC and WHO Want You to Believe Ebola Has No Cure or Treatment":

    • "[] Nano Silver inhibits every disease organism it has ever been tested against, without exception."

    • "Nano Silver is the world's only hope against Ebola and the other antibiotics/anti­ viral resistant pathogens."

    • "Nano Silver ...and offered to provide a protocol ...so they could stop the Ebola outbreak. ..."

    • "Why ...Nano Silver and CBD? Because if you do get Ebola, you will be in great pain and while Nano Silver takes care of the disease, I simply do not want you to suffer."

    The page, "Dr. Rima: 'Beware Ebola Disinformation"':

    • "[W]ith regard to Nano Silver['s impact against the Ebola virus] there is both clinical experience and research, namely the DTRA-funded study..... That report suggests, in vitro, a significant inhibition of viral action with Nano Silver 10 PPM." .

    • "Ebola virus, specifically, is inactivated/neutralized by the application of Nano Silver 10 PPM.... It cannot invade cells to force them to reproduce it. The nutrient appears to regulate cell wall permeability, so the virus cannot penetrate the cell membrane."

    • "There is ...no research showing that colloidal silver is effective against Ebola virus. . . . [T]he research declassified in 2009 by the Defense Department makes it quite clear that exactly the opposite is true of NanoSilver 10 PPM (the product is effective against Ebola virus]."

    • "Now we know more about the specific therapeutic benefits of Nano Silver in he case of Ebola."

    You also have an "Advanced Nano Silver 10 PPM Nutritional Pro-Immunity Protocol for Immune Support in Epidemic Situations Including Ebola, MERS, Malaria and Similar Conditions," available with newsletter subscription on your website, http://www.drrimatruthreports.com. Examples of some of the claims from the protocol include:

    • "All evidence suggests that Nano Silver 10 PPM will help where vaccines do not exist or fail and are [sic] beneficial even when the immune system is impaired, such as in AIDS."

    • "Nano Silver 10 PPM offers a potentially beneficial therapy against virtually all types of viruses, bacteria and other pathogens (including malaria, and dengue)...."

    Examples of some of the claims from your website, that provide evidence that your products are intended for use as drugs include:http://www.nsfmarketplace.com,

    On the home page:

    • "Nano Silver 10 PPM has been shown by US Defense Department research to effectively inactivate/neutralize the Ebola virus. Our Nano Silver 10 PPM is the identical silver used in that research. That is why we can say with confidence that Dr. Rima Recommends™ The Silver Solution (Nano Silver 10 PPM) has been shown to deal effectively with the Ebola virus."

    • "In fact, every disease causing organism against which it has been tested, all around the world has been killed (bacteria, parasites) or inactivated (viruses) by this amazing solution."

    In addition, a claim on your Twitter page, https://twitter.com/NaSolFoundation,which has a link to your website, http://www.drrimatruthreports.com, where products can be purchased directly, provide further evidence that your products are intended for use as drugs:

    • On August 2, 2014: "Ebola does have a cure." Further, claims made on your Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/NaturalSolutionsFoundation, which also has a link to your website at http://www.drrimatruthreports.com,where products can be purchased directly, provide additional evidence that your products are intended for use as drugs:

    Posts on your Facebook page include the following:

    • On August 3: "Nano Silver Inhibits Ebola Virus"

    • On August 1: "Rima E. Laibow MD, Natural Solutions Foundation Medical Director, saying Nano Silver likely to address genetically novel Ebola virus, offers hope for nations impacted by the West African Ebola outbreak and the rest of the world."

    • On August 1: "EBOLA DOES HAVE A CURE!"

    • On July 29: "THERE IS A NATURAL THERAPY WITH HELP FOR EBOLA"

    FDA also notes that http://healthfreedomusa.org and http://www.healthfreedomportal.org automatically redirect to http://www.drrimatruthreports.com.

    Your "Personal Protection Pack," "Family Protection Pack," "Dr. Rima Recommends™ The Silver Solution," and "CBD Organic Dark Chocolate Bars" products are not generally recognized as safe and effective for the above referenced uses and therefore, these products are "new drugs" under section 201(p) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(p)].

    New drugs may not be legally introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce without prior approval from the FDA, as described in section 505(a) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 355(a)]; see also section 301(d) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 331(d)]. FDA approves a new drug on the basis of scientific data submitted by a drug sponsor to demonstrate that the drug is safe and effective.

    Furthermore, your products identified above are offered for conditions that are not amenable to self-diagnosis and treatment by individuals who are not medical practitioners; therefore, adequate directions for use cannot be written so that a layperson can use these drugs safely for their intended purposes.

    Thus, these products are misbranded within the meaning of section 502(f)(1) of the Act [21 U.S.C. §352(f)(1)], in that their labeling fails to bear adequate directions for use. The introduction of a misbranded drug into interstate commerce is a violation of section 301(a) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 331(a)].

    The violations cited in this letter are not intended to be an all-inclusive statement of violations that exist in connection with your products or their labeling. It is your responsibility to ensure that all products marketed by your firm comply with the Act and its implementing regulations.

    You should take prompt action to correct the violations cited in this letter. Failure to promptly correct these violations may result in legal action without further notice, including seizure and/or injunction.

    Please notify this office in writing within fifteen (15) working days from your receipt of this letter as to the specific steps you have taken to correct the violations noted above. Your response should include any documentation that would assist in evaluating your corrections. If you cannot complete all corrections within 15 working days, please explain the reason for the delay and the date by which each such item will be corrected.

    Your response should be sent to U.S.Food and Drug Administration,Kerry Kurdilia, Compliance Officer, Food and Drug Administration, 10 Waterview Blvd, 3rd Floor, Parsippany, NJ 07054. If you have any questions with regard to this letter, please contact Ms. Kurdilla at 973-331-4908 or email kerry.kurdilla@fda.hhs.gov.

    In addition, it is unlawful under the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 41 et seq., to advertise that a product can prevent, treat, or cure human disease unless you possess competent and reliable scientific evidence, including, when appropriate, well-controlled human clinical studies, substantiating that the claims are true at the time they are made.

    See FTC v. Direct Mktg. Concepts, 569 F. Supp. 2d 285, 300, 303 (D. Mass. 2008), affd,624 F.3d 1 (1st Cir. 2010); FTC v. Nat'l Urological Group, Inc., 645 F. Supp. 2d 1167, 1190, 1202 (N.D. Ga. 2008), affd, 356 Fed. Appx. 358 (11th Cir. 2009); FTC v. Natural Solution, Inc., No. CV 06-6112-JFW, 2007-2 Trade Cas. (CCH) P75,866, 2007 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 60783, at * 11-12 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 7, 2007).

    More generally, to make or exaggerate such claims, whether directly or indirectly, through the use of a product name, website name, metatags, or other means, without rigorous scientific evidence sufficient to substantiate the claims, violates the FTC Act.

    See In re Daniel Chapter One, No. 9239, slip op. 18-20, 2009 WL 516000 (F.T.C.), 17-19 (Dec. 24, 2009)
    http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9329/0...opinion.pdf,WL 5108600 (D.C. Cir. Dec. 10, 2010). pet. for review den., 2010

    The FTC strongly urges you to review all claims for your products and ensure that those claims are supported by competent and reliable scientific evidence.

    Violations of the FTC Act may result in legal action seeking a Federal District Court injunction or Administrative Cease and Desist Order.

    An order also may require that you pay back money on consumers.

    Please notify FTC via electronic mail at healthproduct@ftc.gov, within fifteen (15) working days of receipt of this letter, of the specific actions you have taken to address FTC's concerns. If you have any questions regarding compliance with the FTC Act, please contact Richard Cleland at 202-326-3088.

    Sincerely,
    /S/
    Mary K. Engle
    Associate Director
    Division of Advertising Practices
    Federal Trade Commission

    /S/
    William A Correll
    Director
    Office of Compliance
    Center for Food Safety
    And Applied Nutrition
    Food and Drug Administration

    /S/
    Diana Amador Toro
    Director
    New Jersey District Office
    Food and Drug Administration

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