How Many Advanced Extraterrestials Die

[Omni]

This subject has come up in my ET contact. I'll get right to the point. They said the leading cause of death for advanced extraterrestrials is suicide(among the service to truth group)... Might sound crazy but hear me out... Advanced ETs have natural ways of regenerating their bodies so they do not age nearly as fast as us(or age at all past a certain point if they choose). Also they have superior evolutionary traits which lead to slower aging as well.. No advanced ET is haggard and dysfunctional like some of us at like 100+ years old... Main point being advanced ETs live as long as they want to, there indeed is a fountain of youth.... They do not have heart attacks, they do not get cancer. They can cure every ailment, they have ways of keeping cellular structure well.

I was told in many cases of ETs, once you have lived long enough, you are just ready for a fresh start(reincarnation), ready to experience it all as brand new again. You know pretty much everything you wish to at that point, and have experienced practically everything there is to experience within reason...

What they said happens is they simply lay down and lower the consciousness down to asleep, and take the soul out of the body, give a technological afterlife, and they are born into suitable genetics for their soul(suitable in terms for self, and soul mate/family)in a newborn.

In saying all that I am saying the service to truth ones die by suicide typically. Maybe don't let standard NLP of the word suicide effect you as much(if I can estimate the NLP of the word may be different than the concepts I am conveying)...

I'm not sure how reptilians die, I'll ask Simon that in his thread and update if he answers... I'm not sure if Greys even die. If they do it is after an extremely long time. Maybe some of the Greys that are emotional(the original greys perhaps who were created by my estimations, by nuclear fallout) die sooner. But the more synthetic greys who have almost plastic-like skin that doesn't age much if at all, they live an extremely long time by my estimations... Maybe the leading cause of death among greys is reptiles killing them.. Who knows how their hierarchy and system works. Maybe they are more enlightened. I am aware of the concepts of "dark enlightened" which some of the more dark beings have... If anyone knows how the dark side of beings dies mostly feel free to post... I'm curious..

This goes with the normal disclaimer of telepathic contact. Any being can be impersonated telepathically exactly how they communicate... The ones claiming to tell me this info was from an anonymous telepathic source claiming to be ET. I found it credible so that's why I post it..

[shadowstalker]

This a very kewl subject, i would still love to an interview with you maybe about this particular subject only.

[johnf]

It is pretty hard to separate the word suicide with it's negative emotional baggage.
We do have traditions on this planet of conscious death.
Perhaps the idea of leaving when the life is complete is what you are getting at?

John

[giovonni]

i sense those who have chosen the dark side ... desire to prolong their existence here (in body) ... because they have shun the light ... to exist in any physical form in long durations is most cumbersome ... that is the advantage of being drawn to the eternal light ... to expand and explore the wonders of the unknown ...

which takes trust, love and courage ...

[Agape]

If they get stuck on Earth , sure they have to die some day ..from grief or otherwise .

[Agape]

Posted by giovonni (here)
i sense those who have chosen the dark side ... desire to prolong their existence here (in body) ... because they have shun the light ... to exist in any physical form in long durations is most cumbersome ... that is the advantage of being drawn to the eternal light ... to expand and explore the wonders of the unknown ...

which takes trust, love and courage ...

''And you know that I know that you know that I know that those are the words of Confucius on that wall ..and he said that no real man touches his sward unless he's ready to die by it '' ( PuYi , The Last Emperor )


No one dies unless their days and hours were fulfilled . That's my ET faith though.

[Omni]

Posted by johnf (here)
Perhaps the idea of leaving when the life is complete is what you are getting at?

Yes, exactly.

Posted by giovonni (here)
i sense those who have chosen the dark side ... desire to prolong their existence here (in body) ... because they have shun the light ... to exist in any physical form in long durations is most cumbersome ... that is the advantage of being drawn to the eternal light ... to expand and explore the wonders of the unknown ...

which takes trust, love and courage ...

One experience I had, I was given allegedly the chakra energies of a grey that had lived a long time. It seems after some time the chakras start to diminish and become very dim. Maybe that is not age though, and is another factor, like their soul's, genetics, etc..

[Robin]

I had a bit of trouble fully understanding your claim, Omniverse. Are you suggesting:

1.) Many E.T.s commit suicide by placing their souls in another similar body to continue spiritual transcendence, kind of like trading an old, dusty body for a new one?

or

2.) Many E.T.s commit suicide because they feel they have learned everything that can possibly be learned and are simply bored, so they wipe their soul memory and start back at level 1 of spiritual evolution, so to speak?

And are you suggesting that they never commit suicide out of melancholy?

[Omni]

Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
I had a bit of trouble fully understanding your claim, Omniverse. Are you suggesting:

1.) Many E.T.s commit suicide by placing their souls in another similar body to continue spiritual transcendence, kind of like trading an old, dusty body for a new one?

or

2.) Many E.T.s commit suicide because they feel they have learned everything that can possibly be learned and are simply bored, so they wipe their soul memory and start back at level 1 of spiritual evolution, so to speak?

More 1. They don't wipe their soul memory. Only get a fresh start reincarnationally to experience everything as new again. And like john said it's more like their life is complete. I'm not sure if any ETs do not have amnesia from life to life. I found that a potential flaw in universal design if beings are born with amnesia every lifetime even in the most advanced races. And possibly a real type of ascension, goign to a race that does not have amnesia... It's possible they make people aware of themselves and the soul does not have amnesia for some of them though... It's possible they have amnesia like us just live to the point to where amnesia from life to life is preferable..

And are you suggesting that they never commit suicide out of melancholy?

No advanced ET commits suicide because of negative reasons by my understanding. Their lives are good enough to where they never commit suicide in ways humans typically do.

[Robin]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
They don't wipe their soul memory. Only get a fresh start reincarnationally to experience everything as new again.

I still don't understand what you mean by this...

When I think of reincarnation, I think of a soul transferring into another body to undergo another lifetime, usually with amnesia. The amnesia is intended for the soul to learn new lessons on its way to spiritual enlightenment. Like a human's body dying, and the soul staying on Earth and transferring into a completely different body, perhaps from a different culture, gender, and race on the other side of the world.

How can an E.T. learn "everything new again" without amnesia? It's just a new body and the same memories...

[Omni]

Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)
They don't wipe their soul memory. Only get a fresh start reincarnationally to experience everything as new again.

I still don't understand what you mean by this...

When I think of reincarnation, I think of a soul transferring into another body to undergo another lifetime, usually with amnesia. The amnesia is intended for the soul to learn new lessons on its way to spiritual enlightenment. Like a human's body dying, and the soul staying on Earth and transferring into a completely different body, perhaps from a different culture, gender, and race on the other side of the world.

How can an E.T. learn "everything new again" without amnesia? It's just a new body and the same memories...

If they don't have amnesia, they wouldn't be learning things as new. But the ones with amnesia would be. I'm not sure if both exist. Maybe all races have amnesia since birth.

The amnesia is intended for the soul to learn new lessons on its way to spiritual enlightenment.

Not a bad philosophy but I find it limiting. Once the soul has all lessons one can work on character and also specifics/energetics of the soul, honing what you want to be. After that there is no purpose for growth of the soul, and it becomes more about experience and manifestation. As well as keeping your soul 'fit' kind of(meaning keeping the qualities you want).

[Jovian]

My energy overall is perhaps more aligned with many lifetimes spent elsewhere, as the concept of an unpleasant physical 'old age' has always seemed like something we weren't meant to experience. ...I have a strong sense of many other lifetimes, yet I feel as if I manage to depart before having to spend time being incapacitated as an 'old' person.

I've always imagined I'd just will myself to die when I was ready, rather than be in some helpless, less than fully-abled physical body for years before death.

As well, the short length of current human lifetimes has always seemed bizarre to me. I always felt more right about the biblical accounts of people living for centuries...or longer.

...I'm sure there are others here who feel similarly.

[GoodETxSG]

If this be so we must be speaking of a certain group with a certain belief system (IMHO). We would have to be speaking with IN a framework to limit the evolution of a species physically and spiritually to a point where they follow this path. We are held within the confines of Space/Time within Dimensions, Densities (W/Alternate Realities/Multi-verses parallel to those).

Most of the Physical Entities we deal with that ARE from our own or neighboring Densities understand that there are beings and existences above and below their own. They understand the true nature of everything which is that it is based on Vibration and Consciousness, and the Conscious Manipulation of Vibrations (Vibrations of a Spectrum we are only aware of a very small ribbon of...).

They being "Advanced" and of a higher consciousness, vibration and having an understanding that all is connected by a vibratory field that they can consciously interact with and can manipulate their vibrations to "ascend" to a higher frequency/vibration to phase from the lower one to a higher one why would they need to do something so ritualistic as "Turning Off Their Container" (End their fulfilled life) to set their consciousness free?

Those choosing to incarnate into a lower Density body/life without their memories on a "Star-seed Mission" of course may be a different story, though this I believe is more of an exception than a rule... After experiencing one lifetime on a prison planet like this one would probably be enough to deter them from "Signing Up" for that type of mission again.

I am respectfully saying my experiences/interactions have somehow departed unto me a slightly different ET/ED understanding. IMHO as always... (There are many groups out there and many theological views as to what "Their" part is in this layered cake and even some "ED/ET's" have fooled them selves that they are "Higher" Being's and are Service to Others while truly being Service to Self... Just like there are many Humans who have the same delusions. We can convince our selves pretty quickly that we are "special" or Elite some times with all the "Tricksters" out there, the Governments fell for the "Trickster God Model" already (Broken Secret Gov & Alien Treaties for Tech/Human Experiment Trade etc...).

There really are many beings from many "places" to keep straight and contend with. It is far more complicated than most would think.

I am not calling out the OP in a challenge on info... Different Sources, Different Info... This is an interesting topic though and the above is just my opinion with my experiences over the years...

[Omni]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)

I am not calling out the OP in a challenge on info... Different Sources, Different Info... This is an interesting topic though and the above is just my opinion with my experiences over the years...

Would you be able to say how you think advanced ETs die if you think my OP is inaccurate? I'm curious how you think they die.

[GoodETxSG]

In my one time and brief response,

Relative to the Being we are discussing and their current level of Vibrational Development...

Beings Physical Bodies are killed in accidents and conflicts in their vibrational solid state, no argument on that. They are not caught up in the same incarnation cycle we are and are able to re-incarnate into another body within that reality and retain their memory of past experiences/lessons.

For some reason some of these beings choose to incarnate into a lower vibrational existence on a pilgrimage or mission as a “Star-seed”. I would think that after one lifetime of coming back for a mission on a planet like ours would detir them from signing up for further ones after their assignment is completed.

There is also the beings on every layer it would seem that as they get toward the top of the Vibrational Frequency of their Densities Spectrum they would then have the ability to Consciously adjust their physical vibration to match and then “Blink Out” of the perception of those observing them from their previous Density.

This is how it was shared with me and that it becomes exponentially so the higher you go vibrationally. So it is more so and known the higher you go. It is possible though unlikely on the consciousness level we are breaking into just now as a species (For a long time for some like those from Tibet/Rainbow Bodies).

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)

I am not calling out the OP in a challenge on info... Different Sources, Different Info... This is an interesting topic though and the above is just my opinion with my experiences over the years...

Would you be able to say how you think advanced ETs die if you think my OP is inaccurate? I'm curious how you think they die.

[Omni]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
They are not caught up in the same incarnation cycle we are and are able to re-incarnate into another body within that reality and retain their memory of past experiences/lessons.

So basically you agree that with their physical bodies, they die by choice, if one is to word it that way i guess in that terms it wouldnt be dying so much as just the body dying... Suicide isn't the best term...

Also how do you suggest they keep all their memories? I do not believe the soul can retain a life of memories acutely by my understandings of it and observations... What you are saying it would seem they would need to implant all memories into their new physical body to retain all of that. I'm not sure that is what they do. And are they infants? Or fully grown? It seems it would be annoying to be an infant.... I could see some imperfections there..

One thing I have learned is every universal mechanic is as perfect as it can be. So you can figure out the end game of the universe by logic if your logic is good enough.. One could see it as 'perfect', to be remembering who you are from lifetime to lifetime. I could also see it not being that way in a perfect 'design' so to say when it comes to living so long you would rather experience it all brand new again... So I'm on the fence about that. I do believe that 80 years is not long enough to be perfect really. Although perfection is subjective of course.

[GoodETxSG]

They absolutely can keep their memories, lessons, essence in a non physical form. Everything is Vibration, not just some things. The actual memories are vibrations of which makes up the spectrum that we are aware of such a small part of.

At our level the elites are said to the ability to have to backup their "Consciousness" or memories and experiences that are transferred to clones. This is very lo tech an not at all what I was talking about.

We understand the Spectrum as Sound, Heat, Light, Color, and the vibration of certain molecules and compounds cause what we experience as a "Solid State".

Memories do not only exist as chemical markers, brain neuron patterns or engram's in our physical brain. The information is also apart of our essence and as that essence changes vibration and ascends or is thrown back into the incarnation cycle. The lessons and memories are still available to the subconscious in our experience. We should have named the subconscious the super-consciousness as most of what is being processed occurs there and very little is actually processed consciously. This has been proven in many many tests on memory, subconscious manipulation and measuring how much data the senses channel to to the brain and is stored.

For us... Why does part of us have access to these experiences/lessons/wisdom and the waking part of us not? Why do some people have conscious recall of many past lives when the majority of people do not? I seems to be there but with held... why? Complicated... If they are accessing this data then it is associated with their incarnated essence.

When some of this was shared with me I remember thinking, when it comes to Religion/Theology (Peoples Reality Bubbles on this stuff becomes their reality which becomes their Theology which they defend viciously, especially online!) and Politics...

The reason I stated I was responding in a short one time response (Other than the follow ups here) was for that very reason. I do not wish to see a thread that has promise to go downhill as others have recently.

I do feel that I have communicated the concepts that were given to me. I have not made them a part of my belief system yet I have not discounted them as it was extremely interesting information coming from a source you don't immediately discount.

TY Omni...

[Omni]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
They absolutely can keep their memories, lessons, essence in a non physical form. Everything is Vibration, not just some things. The actual memories are vibrations of which makes up the spectrum that we are aware of such a small part of.

At our level the elites are said to the ability to have to backup their "Consciousness" or memories and experiences that are transferred to clones. This is very lo tech an not at all what I was talking about.

We understand the Spectrum as Sound, Heat, Light, Color, and the vibration of certain molecules and compounds cause what we experience as a "Solid State".

Memories do not only exist as chemical markers, brain neuron patterns or engram's in our physical brain. The information is also apart of our essence and as that essence changes vibration and ascends or is thrown back into the incarnation cycle. The lessons and memories are still available to the subconscious in our experience. We should have named the subconscious the super-consciousness as most of what is being processed occurs there and very little is actually processed consciously. This has been proven in many many tests on memory, subconscious manipulation and measuring how much data the senses channel to to the brain and is stored.

For us... Why does part of us have access to these experiences/lessons/wisdom and the waking part of us not? Why do some people have conscious recall of many past lives when the majority of people do not? I seems to be there but with held... why? Complicated... If they are accessing this data then it is associated with their incarnated essence.

When some of this was shared with me I remember thinking, when it comes to Religion/Theology (Peoples Reality Bubbles on this stuff becomes their reality which becomes their Theology which they defend viciously, especially online!) and Politics...

The reason I stated I was responding in a short one time response (Other than the follow ups here) was for that very reason. I do not wish to see a thread that has promise to go downhill as others have recently.

I do feel that I have communicated the concepts that were given to me. I have not made them a part of my belief system yet I have not discounted them as it was extremely interesting information coming from a source you don't immediately discount.

TY Omni...

I'm not so sure our souls can retain memory like our brains can. I'm not sure you are accurate there. And you didn't answer, are they infants in their new bodies or do they grow the full body??

It is very possible every past life case of full memories was due to covert technology. They keep track of all our thoughts and life situations from life to life etc so it wouldn't nec. be a delusion... I think you can energetically feel out details in the soul if they are imprinted with enough depth, but things like pictures etc I do not believe are within the soul... I think it is more energetic.

[GoodETxSG]

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
They absolutely can keep their memories, lessons, essence in a non physical form. Everything is Vibration, not just some things. The actual memories are vibrations of which makes up the spectrum that we are aware of such a small part of.

At our level the elites are said to the ability to have to backup their "Consciousness" or memories and experiences that are transferred to clones. This is very lo tech an not at all what I was talking about.

We understand the Spectrum as Sound, Heat, Light, Color, and the vibration of certain molecules and compounds cause what we experience as a "Solid State".

Memories do not only exist as chemical markers, brain neuron patterns or engram's in our physical brain. The information is also apart of our essence and as that essence changes vibration and ascends or is thrown back into the incarnation cycle. The lessons and memories are still available to the subconscious in our experience. We should have named the subconscious the super-consciousness as most of what is being processed occurs there and very little is actually processed consciously. This has been proven in many many tests on memory, subconscious manipulation and measuring how much data the senses channel to to the brain and is stored.

For us... Why does part of us have access to these experiences/lessons/wisdom and the waking part of us not? Why do some people have conscious recall of many past lives when the majority of people do not? I seems to be there but with held... why? Complicated... If they are accessing this data then it is associated with their incarnated essence.

When some of this was shared with me I remember thinking, when it comes to Religion/Theology (Peoples Reality Bubbles on this stuff becomes their reality which becomes their Theology which they defend viciously, especially online!) and Politics...

The reason I stated I was responding in a short one time response (Other than the follow ups here) was for that very reason. I do not wish to see a thread that has promise to go downhill as others have recently.

I do feel that I have communicated the concepts that were given to me. I have not made them a part of my belief system yet I have not discounted them as it was extremely interesting information coming from a source you don't immediately discount.

TY Omni...

I'm not so sure our souls can retain memory like our brains can. I'm not sure you are accurate there. And you didn't answer, are they infants in their new bodies or do they grow the full body??

It is very possible every past life case of full memories was due to covert technology. They keep track of all our thoughts and life situations from life to life etc so it wouldn't nec. be a delusion... I think you can energetically feel out details in the soul if they are imprinted with enough depth, but things like pictures etc I do not believe are within the soul... I think it is more energetic.

Why wouldn't it be possible? Are we really in a place to judge what is and is not possible in the Cosmos at this point as a species?

Even within the Break Away Civilizations and Secret Space Programs and all that has been learned and left unknown I would answer that question myself as... No.

There is no way of KNOWING is there? I have seen the mental/spiritual/vibratory "Tech" of who We/I dealt with and no matter who we are, we are susceptible to dis-info.

As for the question... There are as many groups of beings with protocols and technologies out there and individuals with free will as there are answers to that question... A key point is that not all beings experience time. If they are from our space/time they may not experience time the way we do nor do they have the biological life cycle of being "infant, child, adult, elder and so on".

But I assumed we were talking about "Advanced". Maybe some time needs to be spent on the term "Advanced" and what we are considering advanced. Just Technologically Advanced a little more than us and interacting with us or the ones that are Advanced in the true sense of the word. Some of what we would consider "Advanced Aliens" are considered the "Scurvy" of the Galaxy.

Anyway, ty for the conversation... I'd like to see some others speak on the subject.

Disclaimer: Remember, as I said this is info imparted to me while in a program and outside of a program dealing with this issue (As my previous posted Threads probably indicate)... They are not a part of my belief system. We were taught not to get caught up and loose yourself in the data. That is very hard when you loose sense of reality as it is being deconstructed and reconstructed before your eyes using vibratory and consciousness based technology.

I believe that is it... Someone else have any thoughts?

[Omni]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
Why wouldn't it be possible? Are we really in a place to judge what is and is not possible in the Cosmos at this point as a species?

I'm not aware I said anything was impossible. I'm confused what made you say this.

If they are from our space/time they may not experience time the way we do nor do they have the biological life cycle of being "infant, child, adult, elder and so on".

I'm a firm believer in time. I think all beings who experience life, are involved in time. I agree they may experience it differently, but they have a linear life in the cosmos is what I mean. you didn't really answer the question though. Are their new bodies babies or fully grown? This is the biggest problem I can find if no amnesia life to life... And wouldn't things get a bit boring after a while? Say you had been experiencing the universe for 50,000 years continuously without a new life. How would that be eventually? I'd think you would have to resort to synthetic means to stay interested in much after a long time...

And I can only go on what I have observed. I haven't observed pictures from my soul. I do believe we can logically deduce pictures from soul energetics though.