John Lash - Sophia's Correction

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Posted by Delight (here)
Pleasure is certainly a more beautiful motivation than pain. I agree with JLL.It is strange however that it is seen that he dwells on rage. I do not see how one can dwell on rage when seeking pleasure? pleasure is IMO satisfaction, full, over flowing with cornucopias of every abundance.

In all that I have ever heard from JLL, he is dis-satisfied and striving and his presentation is self-contradictory. IMO the oppositions stirs dis-satisfaction. Dis-satisfaction is a pendulum and certainly is an evolutionary tool.

I'd like to comment on rage.

The archons are not only working on us on a personal level, but on a social level.
It's a multi-pronged attack which makes the process of extricating yourself difficult to say the least.

You have a personal battle with an archonic presence in your ego. And this is amazingly difficult to contend with.
But then there is the archonic presense in everyone you know.
And this is where the rage ussually comes from.
People trigger one another causing cascading emotional releases which causes us to lose our energy.

The Celestine Prophecy helps to RECOGNIZE the methods used to steal energy, but in my opinion this is only useful in so far as learning how not to steal energy from others by recognizing your actions and stopping what you yourself are doing.

Carlos Castaneda's stalking techniques in reference to the Petty Tyrant are useful in helping you to RECOGNIZE and control how you react in terms to a Petty Tyrant's archonic thrust. Castaneda's techniques explain how not to get your energy stolen.

Castaneda states it is not enough to defeat the archonic presense on a personal isolated level. Castaneda states one must be capable of dealing with the archonic presense in others. It is the mark of a true warrior not to take what your fellow man does to you too seriously and or react by being offended and or wronged.

[araucaria]

I don’t think the hatred that some entities show towards us and John Lash’s hatred towards them can be equated. He is not coming from a place of fear. He states fairly clearly that it is love of life that leads to hate of non-life or anti-life: hence he can hate the one without thereby succumbing to (fear-based) hatred. The trouble is, I’m not at all sure how he intends to do this.

In Not in His Image Lash spends a lot of time ‘badmouthing Jesus’, whom he sees as a proponent of ‘redeemer ethics’. This is not necessarily true, although he can be and has been made to look that way, and Lash has bought into that view. Here is a relevant paragraph, from page 256:

Jesus was wrong on a lot of counts but perhaps supremely so on on one issue. Of all the dubious advice pronounced in the New Testament, one commandment is particularly harmful: the famous injunction to ‘resist not evil’ and ‘turn the other cheek’. If everyone did this what kind of society would result? If everyone turned the other cheek, who would be striking the blows? Well, obviously, no one. If everyone in the world followed the command, ‘turn the other cheek,’ there would be no need to turn the other cheek, because no one would be acting harmfully toward anyone else. The principle is patently absurd and cancels itself out, but taken on faith it serves an unmistakable purpose: to give total liberty to the perpetrators.

The argument is fine, only the conclusion is erroneous. The principle is not patently absurd at all, and does not cancel itself out. It merely traces a path towards a goal, and when that goal is reached, people will be turning the other cheek only to receive another kiss. So the principle is fine as well, or very nearly. Lash’s quibble is with ‘everyone’, which for him is unachievable. He goes on, ‘To propose a code of morality that relies on the good will of perpetrators to desist from their ways is a real stroke of schizoid genius. One may begin to wonder if such a code does not originate with the perpetrators in the first place.’

‘Resist not evil’ comes from the King James Bible. It is well known that this, even supposing the original gospels to be authentic, this political version certainly is not: it is the work of the above-mentioned ‘perpetrators’ (who sound like traitors in perpetuity). And here is evidence of their handiwork: every other translation says, not ‘evil’, but ‘evil person’ or words to that effect, which changes everything.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-39.htm
Of course we have to resist evil; simply, we don’t resist the person. How do we combine these seeming contraries? By, counterintuitively, turning the other cheek. What is the alternative? Retaliating? Punishing? Eliminating people? We know enough about death to understand that capital punishment never solved a problem.

What is the problem with everyone (I’d prefer to say ‘enough people’) turning the other cheek is that it has hardly ever been tried. But on a smaller scale, Mandela’s Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa shows that it ought to work.

This issue has already been discussed on the forum, notably in terms of the rabid dog. How do you remove the rabies without killing the dog? The dilemma is predicated on the incurability of rabies for presentday materialist medicine – and the analogy works when transposed to psychopathy, which is also currently incurable. The long-term answer, therefore, is not to kill the dog but to find a cure. The cure to be found will be through enlightened spiritual healing processes, which of course rules out violence of any kind, violence being in any case a major symptom of the very condition requiring treatment.

[DNA]

I would like to think invoking Jesus could have some archon clearing effect on your personal space.

I personally have no idea though. I will state that it appears some christians who are some of the more hard core true believer types many times seem to exude an energy that is greater than what most folks have.

[onawah]

Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, who was a very profound teacher of the core truths of Buddhism, said that Compassion comes from Hatred, not Love.
He distinguishes between the love of a Bodhisattva and a Granny, and they are two very different things.
Granny love is equated to people-pleasing and so cannot deal with the evil of a psychopath, but the active Compassion of a Bodhisattva is grounded in Wisdom, and so is very effective in rooting out and destroying the harm that psychopathic behavior causes.
I doubt it is a coincidence that the symbol for Wisdom is Manjushri's Sword.



Simon Parkes has pointed out that one of humanity's strongest allies, the Pleiadians, are a warrior people, also that the Buddhist philosophy has somehow remained very pure compared to the other religious and spiritual philosophies of the world.

If it had not been for the Pleiadians, no doubt the Reptilian psychopaths would have completely overrun our neighborhood a long time ago.
Granted, there may be other dimensional races who are more powerful and effective who work through more subtle means.
But according to Simon, and I agree with him, the role of humanity in the galactic community is going to have be one where we start where we are, and I don't think that as a race, we are evolved enough to protect ourselves and our planet solely through advanced, subtle, non-violent means.
I think we need to take a page from the Pleiadian's book, and realize that we must defend ourselves with weapons at the level where that is what it takes, but at the same time, remain decent, compassionate and peaceful people, which the Pleiadians have somehow managed to do, ( at least, the ones that Simon knows)...

A clear example of this, and we don't have to look far to see it as it's happening right in the US, is the way in which TPTW are staging so many false flag events which are obviously designed to coerce Americans into agreeing to gun control, even while police violence is escalating exponentially, so that when/if their planned "big day" comes they will have what they consider good reason to declare martial law.
Turning the other cheek is obviously not going to accomplish anything in such a scenario, and there was good reason for the Founding Fathers to include the right to bear arms in the fundamental rights of citizens.

If you think that human beings, once awakened, are incapable of that, of standing in our own power without losing our balance, then I think you may need to reevaluate the power of our human evolutionary process.
Personally, I think that part of the awakening process is going to be realizing the true nature of Compassion, and the way in which humankind has been conditioned to equate spirituality to submission and sacrifice by the negative Reptilian agenda.
Imho, defending ourselves and our planet by whatever means necessary is our duty as Gaia's children.

And how interesting that John Lash said in the interview Sophia's Correction, that he thinks that the free energy device that will change the energy paradigm on the planet may come from Iran, home of Gnosticism.
Perhaps we should be catching up on the latest news from the Keshe Foundation...
http://www.keshefoundation.org/media...om-part-i.html

[araucaria]

Thank you Onawah; yes, we are talking about tough love. But it depends on what you mean by weapons. The most ethical weapon is no weapon at all, apart from sheer firmness, standing one’s ground. It works like this.

I used to practise sumo wrestling with my kid, and was still winning when he was bigger than me and I should have started losing. The trick is that if you can resist the brute force, there comes a moment when your opponent literally becomes a pushover, no effort involved; or else you sidestep a lunge, and he loses his balance that way. You turn your opponent’s strength into a weakness. Tolkein knew all about this, because at the end of The Lord of the Rings it is not Frodo who destroys the ring as planned, but his enemy Gollum who topples over when it is finally in his grasp.

Counterintuitively, this is something that is being inculcated into many a couch potato. Watching sport on TV is such a waste of time, we are told, yet over and again over people are seeing this scenario being played out. Soccer teams peppering the goal with near misses for 89 minutes and conceding a soft goal in the 90th minute; basketball teams holding out and winning on the buzzer; tennis players saving match points and going on to win. This is what sport is all about and why so many play and watch. It is ingrained in the human spirit. If you cannot finish the job, because your opponent simply refuses to give up, there comes a moment of frustration and discouragement that he (she) will exploit.

These are examples of what Jung called enantiodromia, whereby ‘the superabundance of any force inevitably produces its opposite’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enantiodromia). I imagine the same sort of phenomenon is also at work in kinesiology: when dealing with truth, the muscles are strong, when with falsity, they will suddenly weaken.

[onawah]

Agreed, Araucaria, the skillful means of a Bodhisattva are much like what you describe.
Unnecessary force is certainly not wise.

[Roisin]

Sophia's Correction as explained in John Lash's book, "Not In His Image":

Sophia is the savior of
humanity, because she endows the human species with a special power,
epinoia, by which it can realize its unique role in her life-process.Epinoia
is imagination. This is the faculty we need to engage consciously in
Sophia's "correction," the process of her realignment to the cosmic
source from which she drifted by projecting herself into the emergent
human world prematurely and without a consort, a cosmic counterpart.
In other words, Gaia-Sophia depends upon humanity to claim and
evolve its own innate potential so that she can complete her divine
desire: to dream the human world in intimate rapport with those who
inhabit it.

John Lamb Lash, Not In His Image (Vermont:Chelsea Green Publishing Company, 2006),161.

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Posted by onawah (here)
Agreed, Araucaria, the skillful means of a Bodhisattva are much like what you describe.
Unnecessary force is certainly not wise.

Everything I know about the Bodhisattva I learned from the Beastie Boys. For real though, MCA was the man, this is a killer song.

[Lcam88]

My take so far on Mr John Lash's work has been rather profound in me.

My main take has been that humankind is perfect in conception. The best part is the metaphor of the story is not one of endless division, rather the contrary.

Our problem is that we have bowed our heads and acknowledge that we are inferior, weak, imperfect and even unable. Some of us have been duped into believing we are born sinners, that we are incapable of grandure, or that our minds are limited, that we need something we don't have or that we must follow. As evidence we have our religions, Christianity, Science, Government and Money that girdle us to that metaphorical wooden yoke that "archon" influences have managed to cast by deceiving us to believing this limitedness.

How demeaning is it that our God would abandon us and live in heaven, a place we should strive to go to? And so we may reject that idea of a creator god and turn to Science and Darwin's theory of evolution. How demeaning is it that we are mere coincidence with no purpose but to survive. That random genetic mutation clashes against the forces of survival to shape us coincidentally into what we are as a buff of autumn wind would blow a leaf from the branch of which it grew upon the ground where it may decompose.

To break our chains and realize, first we must break the bonds that tie us to this belief of inferiority. That is the path this myth seems to be leading me. It started with the realization that our creator has not abandoned us and our genetic mutations are not random. And in this context, ironically, two classical paradoxes of quantum mechanics, Schrodinger's cat and "the tree in the forest" paradoxes actually make more sense to me.