True Detective: HBO TV - Dark and Riveting

[apokalypse]

from the trailer doesn't interest me at all but after hearing many positive comment going to check it out now...back later time for my Thumbs up or Down.

[leavesoftrees]

Posted by dim (here)

Posted by chocolate (here)
That was probably one of the most spiritual TV shows I have happened to see in the last several years.

not as intense but try those also:
Top of The Lake
Broadchurch
Southcliffe

I've seen Top of the Lake and Broadchurch (both great dramas) but not Southcliffe so will look out for that.

Just watched Episode 8 last night,. Deserves a 2nd watch. In fact I think the whole series deserves a 2nd look. ONe criticism is that I found McConnaughey's delivery a little hard to hear at times, so a 2nd watch might pick up bits of his dialogue I missed.But overall a great series, best enjoyed for McConnaughey and Harrelson's characters.

[AlaBil]

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Posted by dim (here)

Just watched Episode 8 last night,. Deserves a 2nd watch. In fact I think the whole series deserves a 2nd look. ONe criticism is that I found McConnaughey's delivery a little hard to hear at times, so a 2nd watch might pick up bits of his dialogue I missed.But overall a great series, best enjoyed for McConnaughey and Harrelson's characters.

I have never watched a series like this twice, but I have saved them to do just that. Wow, what a finale. Riveting!

[dianna]

I watched season 1 (liked it) and was also fascinated that the themes and ideas come from from Robert Chambers "The King in Yellow" (1895)

(just finished "The Repairer of Reputations")



If you would like to read this go here:
http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/l_kiy.htm

Also, thought the final scene was especially meaningful (discussed here lately), as he describes not going into the "light" during his near death experience, but says everything is in the "dark" or a different, deeper kind of dark ...

[chocolate]

Thank you, dianna!
I have a kindle edition of the book, though I see the cover for the first time. Soon I will give this book a go.

I am glad you liked the show.

[chocolate]

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From Project Gutenberg --

The King in Yellow
by Robert W. Chambers

English

Short stories --

The repairer of reputations
The mask
The yellow sign
The Demoiselle d'Ys
The prophets' paradise
The Street of the Four Winds
The street of the first shell
The street of Our Lady of the Fields
Rue Barrée

~~~

And for those who are not afraid to get bored by lots of words --

Why True Detective Is A Supernatural Show After All
by Lauren Davis

Despite its heavy references to a 19th century work of horror, True Detective does not appear on its surface to be supernatural show. But the show's controversial ending is particularly brilliant if you read the entire season as a battle between two men and a powerful supernatural entity.

True Detective has been a surprising show in a number of ways. It encourages viewers to root for Rust Cohle, a protagonist who espouses a nihilistic philosophy. Fans raced to buy copies of Robert W. Chambers' 1895 book The King in Yellow when they learned that it was a key textual reference for the series. But perhaps nothing was as surprising as that ending.

Television viewers have come to expect certain things from their endings. They expect twists. They expect certain questions answered. They expect a reinforcement of the show's themes.

I'm not sure anyone expected Rust Cohle to emerge from his ordeal with a firm sense of spirituality and a sense that all was right with the world. It was one of the reasons that, after the season finale aired, we asked, "What the hell kind of ending is that?" Cohle's spiritual awakening felt abrupt, like a deus ex machina.

Or maybe a diabolus ex machina.

Cohle's turnabout didn't seem to fit with the rest of the series. Was True Detective trying to tell us that the small victory of taking down Errol Childress represented the power of light over darkness? Really?

I couldn't say the ending wasn't effective. It worked on my brain as I tried to puzzle how all the pieces fit together. I thought about Chambers' book and the framing story of The King in Yellow. I thought about HP Lovecraft, whose writings were inspired by Chambers and who wrote about indifferent cosmic forces and inherited guilt. I went back and watched the season again, seeing how the episodes played in close succession.

I began to wonder: What if something truly supernatural happened to Rust in Carcosa, but it was something sinister? The pieces started to click into place.

I'm reluctant to say that there is any one absolute reading of True Detective. It's a highly textual show, and there is a lot to read into it. (Plus, I am relying on the text, while some commenters note that certain aspects of my analysis are explained differently by the producers.) However, the events of the finale that seem odd or disappointing make a great deal of sense if you view it as a supernatural show, one whose true nature is never revealed to our protagonists.

"The world needs bad men"

Rust drops a lot of what he views as truths about the world throughout the season, but there are some quotes that have particular resonance. Marty, despite his intense discomfort with Rust's philosophy, at one point seeks Rust's assurance that he isn't a bad person for having an affair. "The world needs bad men," Rust tells Marty. "We keep the other bad men from the door."

Marty and Rust are both bad men, although their badness comes in very different flavors. Marty cheats on and lies to his wife; he fails to notice that something deeply disturbing is going on with one of his daughters. He breaks into his mistress' house and beats up her boyfriend. Over the course of the season, we learn that Rust has been involved in some very shady dealings as an undercover narcotics agent. He has killed people. He's a drug addict. He tells the women that he encounters that they should be afraid of him. He and Marty perform an off-the-books operation to nab Ginger. Rust certainly does these things because he thinks they're good, although perhaps he thinks they're right.

As bad men, Marty and Rust make progress on their case. They kill DeWall and Reggie Ledoux. They find a pair of kidnapped children. They close their case.

After that, their paths diverge. In a deleted scene, we get a hint of what Rust gave up when he decided not to marry Maggie's friend Laurie. Laurie tries to poke holes in Rust's philosophy, and if they stayed together and had children, that would mean a shift in that philosophy. (I actually wonder if the scene was dropped because it implied that Rust's philosophy could be anything other than the truth.) Instead, he goes to Alaska and replaces his barbiturate habit with alcohol. When he returns to Louisiana, he's still a bad man.

Marty, however, reforms for a while. He stops drinking, recommits to his wife, joins the Promise Keepers. It all falls apart eventually, and in a particularly icky way. He encounters a girl he met during the Dora Lange investigation, a girl who had been a teenaged prostitute. When he first met that girl, he asked her madam if she wouldn't become damaged later on in life. But when the girl, now of legal age, propositions him, he has no qualms about sleeping with her. When he learns that his daughter is having a threesome with two boys, his first response is violence; he still fails to investigate the possible abuse she once suffered. It all leads to the dissolution of his marriage, of his family. By the time he encounters Rust again, Marty is a bad man and ready to confront the other bad men in the world.

Now if you were a being who could be thwarted by bad men, what would you do?

[...]

"If you ask me, the light's winning"

"People... so god damn frail they'd rather put a coin in the wishing well than buy dinner," Rust tells his interviewers. Before his conversion, Rust viewed religion as an opiate, and it does seem that the Yellow King hides himself behind religion. Dora Lange started on her path to doom when she started attending church. Rust and Marty's investigation is put in jeopardy when a task force comes in to investigate "Anti-Christian" crimes. From Rust's perspective, religion leaves people too content. He and Marty are malcontents, bad men driven to work for what is right.

Most character in True Detective don't notice that the Yellow King is present in their lives, but he is everywhere. As fans began asking "Who is the Yellow King?" they found signs all over the place. There were theories that Marty was the Yellow King because the King's spiral appears among the children's drawings in his home and at one point he puts his hands over his head in a way that resembles a crown of antlers. In another frame, Rust is driving and a yellow crown from a nearby business appears above him. These aren't accidents; they were deliberately placed there by the producers. (Edit: Apparently the spiral in Marty's home is an accident! A weirdly coincidental one.) And I would argue that they aren't red herrings designed to trick viewers into suspecting our heroes; instead they are signs that the Yellow King is watching, that he exists not as a human person but as an unseen entity always lurking in the background.

There are signs, too, that the Yellow King is present in things that are, on their surface, Christian. In his essay connecting True Detective to The King in Yellow, Michael M. Hughes notes that the name of the revivalist tent preacher Joel Theriot evokes the occultist Aleister Crowley and that he makes the sign of the cross in reverse, suggesting a taint in his religion.

In the wake of Rust's blood sacrifice, the Yellow King exerts power over Rust and turns him into exactly the sort of person Rust once denigrated, a person at peace. After Rust describes his near-death experience to Marty, Marty reminds Rust that he used to look up into the sky and tell stories about the stars. It's another interesting "little priest" moment for Rust—him spinning stories about the bright stars when the Yellow King is linked to the rising of black stars. Rust now views that as "the oldest story…light versus dark." Marty looks up and replies, "[I]t appears to me that the dark has a lot more territory." But as the two men hobble back to Marty's car, Rust finishes with, "Once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning."

Should we believe this newfound optimism? It's interesting that, in the very next shot, we see the night sky that Marty and Rust were just discussing. What do we see?



No stars. In fact, the only light we see in this scene isn't cosmic; it's from human-made lighting. Rust can't actually see the true, cosmic light because it is hidden in light pollution, hidden by human-made light just as the true struggle against the Yellow King is hidden behind human religion.

~~~

And if you ask me, I so well can understand Rust, that it feels as if I am him, just a as male version ( and yes, he does look quite good, too! ).
But to explain why I feel that way I need to write a lot, which is something that is not going to happen anytime soon.

[Cidersomerset]

I have not seen this series yet though a few people has said it is good.I
was about to put up a thread and this one came up on the check, so
I'll post it here even if some of this may already been posted.

True Detective: Occult Symbolism and Plot Devices in HBO’s Hit New Series

new Sunday 20th April 2014 at 05:06 By David Icke





‘This season’s breakout hit on HBO was undoubtedly True Detective. The eight-episode series was a
surprise hit for executive producers who are also the show’s stars, Woody Harrelson and Matthew
McConaughey, and the show’s creator Nic Pizzolatto.

The eight episode season featured stellar acting and writing, but what surprised many viewers and
helped make the show into a pop culture phenomenon, was the elaborate and grisly plot. The
story features a powerful and mysterious Satanic-pagan cult comprised of U.S. Senators, pastors
and police brass, collectively involved in decades of covering up child abductions and ritualistic
murders on the Louisiana coast.

Harrelson plays a hard drinking, combative Louisiana State Police Detective named Marty Hart.
His new partner is a fastidious note-taking detective named Rustin “Rust” Cohle, played by
McConaughey. The two police detectives are assigned to investigate the discovery of the slain
body of prostitute Dora Lange, who has been tied up to resemble a person kneeling in prayer
before a tree, murdered, raped, mutilated and crowned with deer antlers in a mock crown of thorns.’

On Lange’s back is tattooed a black spiral symbol, and in the tree near her corpse is a circular vortex
shape, fashioned from dead tree branches. Surrounding her lifeless corpse are triangular tent-like
structures also made of tree branches. The state police detectives are both stumped and personally
traumatized by the bizarrely occult nature of the serial murder, and are intent on finding the perpetrators.










Read more: True Detective: Occult Symbolism and Plot Devices in HBO’s Hit New Series

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vc-commun...it-new-series/

[chocolate]

Cidersomerset, thank you for your contribution to this modest space here.

When I first watched part of episode 1, I was in a strange mood at the time, my attention dropped out after 10 minutes or so into the episode.

The second time around ( I hadn't done any reading on this TV series at all before attempting to watch it those two times, so I had absolutely no expectations what-so-ever ) I was totally stuck to my chair, and felt as if what was happening wasn't for real.

I grew up reading a lot about the 'bad capitalism' and such, living on this side of the iron curtain, so I was quite aware of a lot of aspects of the world in the west. So I see quite quickly nuggets of valuable 'disclosure' or 'truths' in places many seem to overlook.

The symbolism and the revelations are very strong here ( in the True Detective season 1 ), together with the human aspect of the story. But, not surprisingly, this seems to be 'not much interesting', probably because there is not enough of a UFO agenda embedded in, NWO also seems to be missing here completely, and there is not enough obvious conspiracy traits being exposed.

But I wasn't surprised to see who has actually become interested in the series. Those were the people I had felt seem to operate on my own weave length.

[leavesoftrees]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

True Detective: Occult Symbolism and Plot Devices in HBO’s Hit New Series

new Sunday 20th April 2014 at 05:06 By David Icke

.[.. snip]

Surrounding her lifeless corpse .....

corpses usually are lifeless, aren't they?

[Curt]

It's definitely one in a million and worth watching. I think the story will progress next season to take us to some very interestng places.

It's a very brave series. I have a sense it's going to trace the 'thing' all the way up to the boys at the top- something the tv series, 'The Wire' (the best TV drama ever made) ultimately narrowly failed to do.

I think it's going to reveal a great deal.

I can't recommend this one enough.

[annacherie]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
btw/ i think the soundtrack and supporting audio is excellent. nothing that gets in the way but sets the mood and feeling perfectly. thanks for posting the links, im watching from the start.

MMs' tone and voice mesmerized me just as my yoga instructors' does....sends me from beta to....alpha to.......theta to.........delta. I am going to have to watch again but earlier in the day :D

[Cidersomerset]

Re: True Detective: HBO TV - Dark and Riveting



I have not seen this series yet though a few people has said it is good.I
was about to put up a thread and this one came up on the check, so
I'll post it here even if some of this may already been posted.

True Detective: Occult Symbolism and Plot Devices in HBO’s Hit New Series

new Sunday 20th April 2014 at 05:06 By David Icke

The funny thing I did see the series a couple of months later
and tied it in with other current news. Though until I just saw
this thread bumped , I'd forgot I posted on here....See post
five up........

It did quite well in the Emmy's yesterday , and another series
is being planned I read somewhere ?



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True Detectives // Blue Bloods // David Icke - Jimmy Savile & The BBC...The Tip of the Iceberg.

I watched all eight episodes today and it was a gripping series. I do not watch
many cop/detective shows as I got scarred by so many as I grew up in the
seventies...LOL This is totally different an excellent drama covering paedophile
rings , political corruption , bloodline families,Satanism, drugs, prostitution and a
touch of vigilantism and more.True and gritty believable story and narrative set in
Lousiana over a seventeen year time period 1995-2012 with flashbacks.

As I watched it connections to other stories particularly the Saville anouncements
on ritual abuse and others going on I was trying to connect them together, with
some other headlines today, but as usual it has got a bit long...LOL ...But still
plenty to mull over.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gJ6LtGXcyCE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WqcDH3EQu7A

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"Allegations about his behaviour in the mortuary are incredibly
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Jimmy Savile NHS abuse victims aged five to 75

Friday 27th June 2014 at 09:38 By David Icke





‘Ex-BBC DJ Jimmy Savile sexually assaulted victims aged five to 75 in NHS
hospitals over decades of unrestricted access, investigators say.He assaulted
patients in bed, and claimed to have abused corpses, reviews into his conduct on
NHS premises found.The reports cover 28 hospitals including Leeds General
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apologised to victims, saying Savile’s actions “will shake our country to the core”.’

Read more: Jimmy Savile NHS abuse victims aged five to 75

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DutNY63LqO0

see....Panorama - Jimmy Savile: The Power to Abuse 3/6/14

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David Icke - Jimmy Savile & The BBC...The Tip of the Iceberg.

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lifestyle in 2014?’

Read more: If The Clintons Are Worth 50 Million, Why Do They Get Nearly A Million
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