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    Defense Against the Psychopath is a documentary excerpted from chapter one of my book; The Art of Urban Survival. Teaches people how to recognize and defend against our society's most dangerous predators, psychopaths.




    I have had very intimate run-ins with a few psychopaths and I can tell you from personal experience that this video is SPOT ON.

    They usually prey upon the spiritually aware and kind people. They are energetic vampires in this regard. One must keep their defenses up and their wits about them constantly.
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    Just stumbled across this video and found it quite good...

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    Excellent video on Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Thank you nearing.

    IMO, it is because of these individuals that we have this destructive, corrupt, and decaying world in which we live. But what I don't understand is why we continue to allow them to garner the power and control over us. What does that say about the rest of society?
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    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Excellent video on Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Thank you nearing.

    IMO, it is because of these individuals that we have this destructive, corrupt, and decaying world in which we live. But what I don't understand is why we continue to allow them to garner the power and control over us. What does that say about the rest of society?
    ...that it is controlled by psychopaths, and they are good at what they do...

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    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Excellent video on Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Thank you nearing.

    IMO, it is because of these individuals that we have this destructive, corrupt, and decaying world in which we live. But what I don't understand is why we continue to allow them to garner the power and control over us. What does that say about the rest of society?
    That we are better at looking outside for problems, than inside for solutions.

    If a house is devastated by termites, what do you do? Seek them out one-by-one? No; you rebuild the house, better than before.

    I'm only just seeing how this can be more than a simple metaphor, so please forgive me for not having more to offer for the time being.

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    Quote Posted by Freed Fox (here)
    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Excellent video on Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Thank you nearing.

    IMO, it is because of these individuals that we have this destructive, corrupt, and decaying world in which we live. But what I don't understand is why we continue to allow them to garner the power and control over us. What does that say about the rest of society?
    That we are better at looking outside for problems, than inside for solutions.

    If a house is devastated by termites, what do you do? Seek them out one-by-one? No; you rebuild the house, better than before.

    I'm only just seeing how this can be more than a metaphor, so you'll forgive me for not having more.
    I don't see "society" as "devestated"...it's not about seeking them out one-by-one (but I believe that is eventually necessary), the video points out: the first step is identifying the problem.

    Not everyone in your house knows what these "termites" can do. Sure, they need to take care of their "inner problems", but that does not mean that "outside problems" don't exist...and in some cases cause just as much damage to an individual.

    I believe it is a psychopathic program this mindset to "go within" to the exclusion of external problems, the old "blame the victim".

    I also believe it is not to late, the house is not devestated--we do not yet need to rebuild the house, we need to spread awareness of the termite infection in so doing eenlisting others in treating the "house" before total devestation....I personally find educating people on the existence of this "anti-human mindset" we call psychopathy is an important tool for self improvement (which I totally agree is an essential component in societal improvement).

    "Civilization" is the construct of psychopathic forces, hoisted on to "society" for their purposes. Recognizing that this is a cage, and does not need to be our "house", will allow "society" to choose something else. Inner work is essential, but exteral reality exists, and is important...solipsism is another clever tool of the psychos, IMO

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    I think this guy points out a real good piece of the “societal” puzzle, in doing show bridges any gaps between the ideas I presented and those of yours, fox…I really don’t think our ideas are mutually exclusive…I find some truth in your post:



    Hat-tip to Cardillac, I was going to post it in the Russell Brand thread (but that would be giving power to the entity that is RB...either way it has next to nothing to do w/him):

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post870126

    by the way, thanks christian again for the op video, it is a comprehensive one….
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    We're not controlled by anyone. The so called psychopath is just a reflection of a pain that we have not been willing to look at. As Lester said if there is anything we don't like in the world there is a need to change ourselves. That's all that is required because we each create our experience. I have even purposely created situations to challenge myself by using thought alone. Because the world is in our mind. As Bashar has said there is nothing outside of you, there is no outside.

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    We're not controlled by anyone. The so called psychopath is just a reflection of a pain that we have not been willing to look at. As Lester said if there is anything we don't like in the world there is a need to change ourselves. That's all that is required because we each create our experience. I have even purposely created situations to challenge myself by using thought alone. Because the world is in our mind. As Bashar has said there is nothing outside of you, there is no outside.
    I live in an experience where there are others, I am not just manifestation of something inside of you...

    ...or am I??

    I believe in psychopaths. And I believe solipsism is useful to them.

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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Excellent video on Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Thank you nearing.

    IMO, it is because of these individuals that we have this destructive, corrupt, and decaying world in which we live. But what I don't understand is why we continue to allow them to garner the power and control over us. What does that say about the rest of society?
    ...that it is controlled by psychopaths, and they are good at what they do...
    Yes, I believe that is what I said--or at least, what I was trying to say.

    Clearly they are good at what they do or they woudn't be in power and control. And while I'm sure a fair percentage of society hasn't a clue about psychopaths/sociopaths and that they are being manipulated and controlled by them, I think the majority of people know (or at least suspect or are aware on some level) that they exist and are in control, but they choose to wallow in one of the five stages of grief as a coping mechanism rather than dealing with the issue head on and demanding the eradication of these sick and twisted creatures from their perches of power, authority and control.

    So what I was trying to elicit from the readers is why they think people in general would rather be in denial, angry, bargaining, depression or acceptance of the fact that they are being lied to, manipulated, controlled, used, and, in some cases, killed than taking action to not only have the psychopaths removed from any position of power and control (in government, corporations, academia, religious or other institutions), but to ensure that they never again get an opportunity to gain power, control or authority anywhere.

    Imagine how different life on planet Earth might be if we screened-out people from positions of power, authority and control (e.g., police, military, government, corporate, educational, and religious leaders) if they exhibited psycho-/socio-pathic tendencies and behaviors. I know what you're thinking, who gets to determine who is and who is not a psychopath and whether they qualify for a particular position or not--particularly in a "free" society. Yet we already do this everyday. For example, you can't join the military if you have certain physical conditions, you can't become an engineer, lawyer or doctor without certain academic credentials, you can't drive a car or bus or fly a plane without a license, etc). Would we let a "clinically" crazy person control our nuclear weapons? Yet we seem to have no problem letting a psychopath/sociopath control our nuclear weapons. Is not a psychopath, by definitiion, a crazy person? Who are the crazy ones?
    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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    Well, it's funny; I am no solipsist and I certainly find the notion of 'blaming the victim' rather sadistic, but I can also see how this paradigm that's emerging for me can be seen through such lenses (but not necessarily on account of any accuracy in those interpretations).

    I agree that outside problems do not magically vanish in the wake of internal solutions on an individual basis, but I would argue that it must begin that way, perhaps to degrees which I have not even realized yet. All I can attest to is what it has been doing for me, and my belief in that transformative power to be transferable to the macro. I agree that those who suffer the most aren't exactly the ones who need correcting the most... There is power in their hands, but the more tangible, readily accessible power lies in the hands of those who seemingly suffer the least, gain the most, and therefore have the most to lose; the most reason to cling to control and forego compassion.

    There are underlying problems externally, systemically which closely mirror things I believe we each individually face. The symptoms we see have been likened to a parasite, but I look at it more as an illness.

    I'm digging my feet in as best as I'm currently able to here. I do not expect you or anyone else to wade through it all, but I would like to humbly suggest that there is something really substantial to this. The last thing I want to do right now is promote myself, but promoting this...

    Heed the "TL;DR" note if you feel so inclined. I would be a horrible hypocrite to expect people to invest their time in me. I AM actually; I haven't even bothered to watch your video prior to this reply (though I will in a few moments, and before interjecting any further). I wish it was so simple as to be conveyed easily and briefly...Maybe it can, and I am merely ill-equipped to do so. At any rate, it is largely based on the notion (rather, first hand experience) that you have to start from the ground up. We can disagree about whether the situation can or should be viewed as "devastated" but it's hard to argue that it isn't systemic.
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    Donk, according to Bashar we each have our own reality, because there is an infinite number of parallel realities. Did you ever notice a change of people or situation when you changed?

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    Valuable information in the video. Here's an outline and I'd encourage others to watch. If there are time constraints one can jump to a specific section.

    This article compliments the topic, “The Art of Hyper Dimensional War

    “Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. Always use love: kind love for the kind, tough love for the tough.”

    Defense Against the Psychopath

    Part One:

    Key Characteristics @ 1:45
    • Lack of Empathy
    • Lack of Remorse
    • Superficiality
    • Grandiosity
    • Irresponsibility
    • Impulsive Behavior
    • Compulsive Lying
    • Manipulative
    • Anti-Social Behavior

    Part Two:

    Common Types of Psychopaths @ 10:30
    • Narcissists
    • The Victim
    • Con Artists
    • Malevolent Psychopaths
    • Professional Psychopaths
    • Secondary Psychopaths

    Part Three:

    Method of Operation @ 24:40 minutes
    • The Interview
    • The Seduction
    • Divide and Conquer
    • Fear and Tyranny
    Defense Against a Psychopath @ 30:10 minutes
    • Facing Evil
    • Recognition
    • What Not To Do
    • Attack
    • Evade

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    I think you may have just described tony blair............and hilary clinton, I could go on and on.
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    K donk, I rectified that particular hypocrisy of having spoken out of turn (before watching the Russell Brand vid). I mostly agree, but perhaps not entirely... I'll try for brevity here without sacrificing clarity:

    We COULD rely only - or primarily - upon every individual acting in accordance to his or her conscience, except for the unconsciousness which seems to pervade us, our thoughts, and our actions. I have never considered myself to be an altogether immoral person, but only now do I feel as though I'm awakening to something like true conscience, by acting upon it and maintaining a more vigilant awareness of it. It has lead me to tangible results and dramatic changes in my life. I will of course share these things with anyone who is interested, sparing no horribly personal detail, but only for the sake of the message, not for myself. In addition to living ever more of it, little by little, I'm only doing my meager best here to try and explain what it really is, and what it might really mean.
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    I feel ya FF, I don’t think we disagree on much. I look forward to reading what you linked as well as the thread you started with a bunch of lengthy I saved for later (perhaps the same?), I been on my own little thought train here…particularly toward EmEx’s thoughts…which I can also vibe with.

    The thing is, it is a “level higher” (for lack of better terms) than what I am getting at, and where the concerns of psychopathy come in to play. The practical reality that I exist in, now. This is definitely dependent on the level “you” are on, which to me equates to your “level of awareness of how this reality actually functions”. I believe EmEx describes it well--on the highest imaginable level…which I think implies all the “we are All That Is” separating a receptor for “It” so that we may experience ourselves, so necessarily “gave ourselves amnesia” of our True Self, that some call “God”, others prefer All That Is or We Are One.

    I get that, and it is practical, in not taking personally what most perceive as “evil”. In fact, knowledge of that “truth” allows you to do what I found to be the most practical application: not take “evil” personally, which allows me to live with much less fear than nearly any other being I have interacted on this level of existence.

    But the reality I find myself in is NOT what the being that is ME would choose. If I could really just “create my reality”, all other beings with free will that can relate to me would have the basic freedom/right/empowerment/piece of information that is described in the clip I posted, that “authority” is an entity of our collective creation, and a bad paradigm for human beings to exist “respecting”. So I am attempting to change this reality, which I do not consider ALL MINE, by showing anyone I can this purpose of mine. I do not believe my imposition of will on this reality creates human suffering, and I wish to bring to light on the behaviors of humans that cause suffering to other parts of creation (and to ourselves).

    So a short answer to your direct question EmEx: I always notice that all situations and people change, constantly. As does my perspective. But I have not ever experienced the exact transformation of either to what I intentionally attempted to will in to creation, no…only I really changed, that is all I can control—every other illusion of control or reality creation I have tried has fell within the rules of the existence that I find myself, which I will not take credit for creating. Some other being/will that I don’t consider ME/MINE either created them or limited me into believing them. It has the mindset/purpose or derives its energy from the control of others, whether directly or by emotional manipulation.

    I won’t discount anything (even solipsism), but the practical application of knowledge about an external anti-human mindset, be it a figment of human imagination, a physical part of our brain, an infection, a parasite, whatever…to think of it as different/external/separate from WHO I AM and WHAT A HUMAN IS to me is a helpful, useful tool in existing in a reality that I want to be in…now. Making sense of where I find myself. It helps with relationships—including self love. I could be wrong, but I cannot see the “danger” in my belief… I hope I described how I can see interpretation of yours as having the possibility for a kind of trap?

    Just musing…and here is what I was musing before the above…the start of the post that would have appeared, had I not read a couple of replies, forgive repetition, perhaps there is insight:




    I used to agree with Kaiser Sose (from the movie “The Usual Suspects”): The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

    Now I believe that while that was a great trick, “he” pulled an even greater one relatively recently….he convinced [some of the more awake/thinking/open people of the] world that he is the creation of their imagination and/or some inherent flaw within human beings

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    Excellent video on Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Thank you nearing.

    IMO, it is because of these individuals that we have this destructive, corrupt, and decaying world in which we live. But what I don't understand is why we continue to allow them to garner the power and control over us. What does that say about the rest of society?
    ...that it is controlled by psychopaths, and they are good at what they do...
    Yes, I believe that is what I said--or at least, what I was trying to say.

    Clearly they are good at what they do or they woudn't be in power and control. And while I'm sure a fair percentage of society hasn't a clue about psychopaths/sociopaths and that they are being manipulated and controlled by them, I think the majority of people know (or at least suspect or are aware on some level) that they exist and are in control, but they choose to wallow in one of the five stages of grief as a coping mechanism rather than dealing with the issue head on and demanding the eradication of these sick and twisted creatures from their perches of power, authority and control.

    So what I was trying to elicit from the readers is why they think people in general would rather be in denial, angry, bargaining, depression or acceptance of the fact that they are being lied to, manipulated, controlled, used, and, in some cases, killed than taking action to not only have the psychopaths removed from any position of power and control (in government, corporations, academia, religious or other institutions), but to ensure that they never again get an opportunity to gain power, control or authority anywhere.

    Imagine how different life on planet Earth might be if we screened-out people from positions of power, authority and control (e.g., police, military, government, corporate, educational, and religious leaders) if they exhibited psycho-/socio-pathic tendencies and behaviors. I know what you're thinking, who gets to determine who is and who is not a psychopath and whether they qualify for a particular position or not--particularly in a "free" society. Yet we already do this everyday. For example, you can't join the military if you have certain physical conditions, you can't become an engineer, lawyer or doctor without certain academic credentials, you can't drive a car or bus or fly a plane without a license, etc). Would we let a "clinically" crazy person control our nuclear weapons? Yet we seem to have no problem letting a psychopath/sociopath control our nuclear weapons. Is not a psychopath, by definitiion, a crazy person? Who are the crazy ones?
    I think you should listen to the clip I posted

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    there is an excellent thread on psychopaths started by Carmody. Really Worth to look at as well.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-domino-effect

    In that thread, you will also find a video on monkey psychopaths. Learning from nature, it is the story of a group of monkey in their natural habitat that was studied for the cortisol levels in their blood following stressful events, their psychopaths being a major stressor. THe impact on the monkey's health was to be studied, but an accident happened and all the psychopaths of the troop died.


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    Excellent video on Psychopaths/Sociopaths. Thank you nearing.

    IMO, it is because of these individuals that we have this destructive, corrupt, and decaying world in which we live. But what I don't understand is why we continue to allow them to garner the power and control over us. What does that say about the rest of society?
    ...that it is controlled by psychopaths, and they are good at what they do...
    Yes, I believe that is what I said--or at least, what I was trying to say.

    Clearly they are good at what they do or they woudn't be in power and control. And while I'm sure a fair percentage of society hasn't a clue about psychopaths/sociopaths and that they are being manipulated and controlled by them, I think the majority of people know (or at least suspect or are aware on some level) that they exist and are in control, but they choose to wallow in one of the five stages of grief as a coping mechanism rather than dealing with the issue head on and demanding the eradication of these sick and twisted creatures from their perches of power, authority and control.

    So what I was trying to elicit from the readers is why they think people in general would rather be in denial, angry, bargaining, depression or acceptance of the fact that they are being lied to, manipulated, controlled, used, and, in some cases, killed than taking action to not only have the psychopaths removed from any position of power and control (in government, corporations, academia, religious or other institutions), but to ensure that they never again get an opportunity to gain power, control or authority anywhere.

    Imagine how different life on planet Earth might be if we screened-out people from positions of power, authority and control (e.g., police, military, government, corporate, educational, and religious leaders) if they exhibited psycho-/socio-pathic tendencies and behaviors. I know what you're thinking, who gets to determine who is and who is not a psychopath and whether they qualify for a particular position or not--particularly in a "free" society. Yet we already do this everyday. For example, you can't join the military if you have certain physical conditions, you can't become an engineer, lawyer or doctor without certain academic credentials, you can't drive a car or bus or fly a plane without a license, etc). Would we let a "clinically" crazy person control our nuclear weapons? Yet we seem to have no problem letting a psychopath/sociopath control our nuclear weapons. Is not a psychopath, by definitiion, a crazy person? Who are the crazy ones?
    I think you should listen to the clip I posted
    I did view your clip and I agree with most of what the commentator said--particularly the part about the masses thinkng "inside-the-box" with believing in and supporting the status quo (i.e., that we need authority figures to tell us what to think, what to do, and how to live and behave). However, I think he's naive at best to say that "the only thing that will lead to peace and justice is when people say, I see a problem and the problem IS people imagining that their ideas should be forced on others. You do away with that and the problem is gone." I say he's naive because people aren't "imagining" that other people's ideas are being forced upon them, but because they ARE being forced upon them--albeit by their own volition and/or aquiescence (e.g., voting, political and religious beliefs and behaviors). And because he offers no suggestions as to how we might get people to stop supporting the system so we can "do away" with that fact.

    I did not mean to imply that I agree with the current control system(s) or that we should continue to support them--and I believe several of my PA posts--particularly regarding creating a new paradigm for how we interact and relate to each other--will bear that out. But since I don't believe we, as a whole, are about to change our beaviors or ways of thinking--particularly outside-the-box--anytime soon, I tried to stay "within-the-box" this time with my comments.
    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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    They rule the world for quite some time





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