What Obama Called His Wife Has Many People Talking

[Jovian]

I am 'same-sex oriented' in this lifetime, though I certainly don't think that makes my opinion any more important on this issue that anyone else's. After participating on the rag sites like GLP for years, and allowing myself to be tossed around by my knee-jerk emotional reactions that environment promotes, I find it amazing and refreshing to see intelligent and articulate discussion here of any and all topics...even about the first lady possibly being a man. LOL.

I have not read any other PA threads about the topic, but several years ago I became fairly convinced of the truth of Obama's "secret gay life." The Larry Sinclair story seems sound; the dead church members who were his prior sexual partners; those who say they recall his presence in the Chicago bath house scene... On and on.

Preaching to the choir here, but I concur: This is a gifted narcissistic personality with a potent ability to mesmerize the masses with sugary, idealistic rhetoric. The sexuality issue is just one more deception in the long trail that was tidied up, and the pretty picture that was fabricated, by the dark machine that was intent on getting this Pied Piper soul into the position of POTUS. He of course has no real power, easily kept impotent by any one of the mountain of lies that could expose his massive fraudulence.

The gesture a year or two ago, of proclaiming equality for gay individuals as important, with his dramatic invoking of parallels to Abraham Lincoln... That struck me as quite bizarre and out-of-nowhere. I wondered if it wasn't a concession made to keep someone from divulging something about his 'secret gay life.'

This is the first I'm hearing of the Michelle-as-a-man idea. My intuition say no. I have concerns about jumping on conspiracy bandwagon ideas that have weaker and weaker 'evidence' as ultimately being counterproductive, but I will look at the evidence linked here. ...Who knows? Maybe she was 'Michael' in another life in which they knew each other, and he was unconsciously tapping into that.

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Edit: Just viewed Joan Rivers clip. Wow--that was weak. ...I watch her 'Fashion Police' show often. Joan being Joan. ...And the 'Michael' slip in the speech: according to info in some other links here, it was misprinted as such on the speech he was mindlessly reading from (I assume written by his speechwriter, as usual). Any other 'evidence' than this??



Though, I do understand that when you glean just how 'ballsy' (no pun intended. lol) just one of the incredible deceptions surrounding this man are, you wonder if any lie is too big to be put over seamlessly on the masses at this point. It seems not.

[DNA]

Posted by sigma6 (here)
If it is true. The fact that people have to pretend they are incapable of discerning whether Joan Rivers was "joking" (because she is a comedian you know...) and if she was just speaking "plainly" as an old lady who is too old to care that she is spreading information, that should be kept among the "we" whom she specifically referenced... is the very same reason I don't agree with the "it's ok for gays to go public, and in fact they should parade down the street" mentality.

This is a perfect example of how even the most basic simple human observations are now beyond most people's ability. There is a public consciousness where your IQ drops, because it is being dictated by someone who just told you how your supposed to interpret your own perception, because you're not an "expert". Common sense is not something you have to go to school to get. Opening your eyes and cleaning out your ears requires no special education. Telling the truth doesn't require a degree... Exercising logic is not a sacred art that is only allowed to be practiced by wealthy upper middle class snobs and above....

We are becoming worshippers of mediocrity. It's my opinion that Joan Rivers said what she said and meant it. She is an old woman. She looked like she was a little tired at the end of a long day, and just wanted to go home. The reporter was "playing her" ... it panned out... And she opened her mouth and let something slip out. For a moment she thought that the whole planet was living in the same world as her tiny bubble. Happens ALL the time. Whether it is accurate or not is not the point. She clearly believed it to be true and she stated it as such.

Given that. She also indicated that it was "understood" by many others... For a few moments she may have felt tired of maintaining this "us and them" bourgeois class mentality and she might have "felt" it was time the "world knew" Old people do that. The implications ARE huge. But justifying political correct gay propaganda which is just another mind control program is a joke.

And the self brain washing... People literally hypnotizing themselves "the news reporter says she was joking..." oh guess what ... I think... she was joking... yeah... that's it... she was joking... This is HOW WEAK MINDED people are becoming!!! This planet is ripe for an ANVIL the size of the MOON to drop on EVERYONES head... RIPE...

They are doing the same thing with programming us to accept death (of other people of course, because they "deserve it") First 911, then a war on terror, then pre-emptive strikes are acceptable, then policing other countries, then killing people who don't agree with all the previous bullsh**... IT WAS ALL PLANNED, STEP BY STEP, TOTALITARIAN TIPTOE... I SEE A SIMILAR PATTERN. THERE IS AN AGENDA w the Gay rights movement. (I don't hate on them by the way, but they are not exemplary citizens, just because they are more sophisticated and lie better)

NOT GOOD. And I can't be bothered to break down all the unlimited reasons why, but for starters, there is illogicality, rationalizations, falsehoods, propaganda.... it all points to one thing
AN AGENDA. They are not dumbing us down any more. We are at the next stage. I see people doing it to themselves all the time everywhere now...

The US is pathological because it doesn't know how to disagree, without feeling a compulsion that it must now sneak up behind you, beat your head in with a rock and steal your shoes and your smokes, because you "deserved it". Then go to his buddies and share the smokes (support the gays, war, etc) and show off his shiny new shoes (I'm God's gift...) to reinforce and justify the act and eventually completely suppress the guilt (killing is justified sometimes...) The buddies (weaker nations states) have got so many free cigs (printer press money... their own children's futures) when they finally figure out what they done. They don't want to stop it. Because one, they are a bunch of pushovers and two, they are addicted to the free smokes and the good stories...


Upate:
Good people died to cover up the trail that lead to the truth about his HOMOSEXUALITY... I say there is correlation between him being a homosexual and a lying bastard... not one on one cause and effect, but definite correlation... All gays I know have the perfect rationalization to lie, "to protect themselves"... I don't agree...

look up the definition of rationalization and then rationale.

Holy freaking crap dude.

I can't believe you spent this much time and effort to comment on this thread.

First off I don't know anything about this whole thing. It has always seemed to absurd. And in so far as Obamma being owned due to something being held over his head, I always assumed it was the birth certificate.

Pause while I go watch the Joan Rivers thing ----------

Okay I'm back.

Wow, I know it's Joan Rivers and all, but you are kind of right. She didn't look like she was participating in a joke or anything.
She did in fact look like it was kind of a revealed truth kind of thing.

It is still going to take a hell of a lot more than an off hand remark from Joan Rivers to make me think Michelle Obamma is a dude.

For starters, I think the biggest deal would be their children.
How is anyone going to explain the children, and how in the hell could that have been kept secret.

I just can't see that.

[Jovian]

Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
Also, if you want more "evidence," it's all in the signature:

Attachment 26700

The PTB are pedophilic psychopaths that worship the phallic symbol. I suggest researching more on Jordan Maxwell...

Barely anything that happens on this planet is by accident...

Ha! That's remarkable...yet hysterical.

[DNA]

Posted by Humble Janitor (here)
You know what? You'd have to be pretty goddamn low to believe **** like this. I'm not holding back. How dare you link to Sucha Fool and his nonsense?

Sucha Fool and his ilk should be ashamed for their homophobic, transphobic comments towards the President and First Lady. Of course, neither allegations are true. But, half-wit ignoramuses will run with this **** because they have to stoop that low.

Shame, shame, shame!

Dude, when I started reading this thread I thought the same damn thing, and seriously thought about saying something similiar.

Everything I know about this conspiracy I've learned in the last half hour, while reading this thread.

Again, I thought the same as yourself and thought of going self righteous rant style but instead I went ahead and read the thread and holy freaking crap. There is some compelling stuff on here.
Not the least of which is this.

Two members of Obama's church who were suspected gay lovers of Obamma killed execution style within six weeks of one another in November and December of 2007, right before Obama's campaign really took off.


And this little blurb by Joan Rivers, I know I know she is a sarcastic evil woman, but given the information I just linked. It's pretty freaking crazy.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hoxlqhukLxw

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Posted by onawah (here)
When I click on the second page of this thread, I get a Malware alert, cautioning me not to view the page.
Is anyone else getting that?

Posted by Paul (here)
The website that jackovesk linked to for his Michelle Obama image was provoking a warning from Google's Chrome browser, as that website was on their list of malware sites. So I chose a different image and put it in jackovesk's post.

Yup - someone else got it too and reported it to me yesterday. I tracked it down to a link to an image from a site that Google doesn't trust, and put a different image link, to a similar image, in its place.

You should be able to view this page without any alert now.

How about going a step further and deleting this ****?

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Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
Yeah, I'm going to put this simply:

Of course it does not matter what orientation somebody is. It is none of our business, so long as we are not being lied to or being harmed.

It IS a problem in this case (if it is true), because if our political leaders are lying about something and covering something up that is so petty as sexual/gender orientation (in the words of some Avalon members), then it makes one ponder what else they can be lying about...perhaps something bigger and more important?

One of the methods I use to get people thinking is by asking them if they believe that the government is 100% truthful to the public on every single issue. If the person says no, I bring up a simple example, such as 9/11. Given all of the evidence that simply shows that the story the government has told about 9/11 is not completely true -- even discounting alternative theories about inside jobs -- it is a HUGE deal. If the government does not tell the full real story of 9/11, you can sure as HELL bet they are lying about other things. So what other things are they lying about...?

How would having a homosexual or transsexual president harm the American people?

It's an absolute load of rubbish and jackovesk is the typical anti-Obama poster, using hyperbole and hatred instead of facts to attack the man.

You don't like Obama? Cool story, bro. But, if you're going to attack a sitting President, attack his record instead of posting stupid drivel like this.

My perception of jackovesk by reading his posts for the last few years is that he is not anti-"obummer."

He is anti the false matrix which appears to have most of the planet hypnotized. This fact is also one of the primary focuses of this forum, Humble...

I recommend you spend more time here getting up to speed. Only then will your comments begin to carry some weight. If Paul did anything here... he might consider if "trolling" is going on.

This is entirely true about Jacovesk, he is anti matrix falsity, although he uses Obama extensively to make his point, and therefore, I thoroughly enjoy pulling his leg and teasing him on this, doing as if he was OBAMA's worst nightmare and completely nuts about him .....

[Cidersomerset]

The Obamas seem to be the ultimate MK Ultra power couple programmed to explode at anytime ?

Or just miss understood puppets of the Rothchild /Rockafella Bilderberg elite school of US Presidents
like the last half a dozen or so...LOL !!

We knew from the off that George Bush jnr was an idiot stooge to Chaney's straightman in their
Presidentual act. But the fresh new coloured man of the people was supposed to be different,
and he is it seems ??......



First the parentage and birth certificate of Barrak / Barry Soetoro has been fiercely contested.





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Then the strange speculation that Barry, michelle and even the children were clones of
Pharoah Ahkenaton and his family reborn....



Is Obama The Clone of Akhenaton? (Barackhenaten)




http://gizliilimler.tr.gg/Is-Obama-T...enaten-k2-.htm

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Michelle Obama a MAN? What the …

Monday 18th August 2014 at 09:49 By david-icke





‘The following excerpt is the true biographical information of Michelle Obama, given to me on June 25,
2011 by a former member of the First Lady’s personal staff. He shall remain anonymous for the time
being to protect his life as well as the lives of his family.

“Michelle Obama, First Lady of the United States, was born Michael LaVaughn Robinson in Chicago,
Illinois on January 17th, 1964. He was the second son born to Fraser Robinson III, a well known
cocaine dealer and union thug for Crime Lord/Mayor Richard J. Daley, and Marian Shields Robinson,
a transient street prostitute who was diagnosed with the HIV virus in 1998. He was a popular high
school athlete and in 1982, he accepted a scholarship to play middle linebacker for the Oregon State Beavers.’

Read more: Michelle Obama a MAN? What the …





http://educate-yourself.org/cn/miche...l16aug14.shtml

[Robin]

The topic of the true subject of the sexuality and history of both Michelle and Barack Obama is an important one that I deem relevant to the Truth movement. It is great to see so many members take this seriously, and I think it is a topic that deserves more organization.

Would the Moderators please consider merging the following threads with this one:

WHO IS: "Michael LaVaughn Robinson"??? Comedian - Joan Rivers Knows!!!
Michelle Obama's System Malfunction
Were Michelle Obama/Williams sisters born male?

Thanks!

[Jovian]

^ ^ I don't know that I agree that everyone here is taking it 'seriously.' ...Clearly some are not really interested in separating the wheat from the chaff as far as the evidence and are content coming from a position of lower-functioning ignorance with ad hominem attacks upon a woman who doesn't fit their sad 1950's two-dimensional June Cleaver household model of how a woman should appear and behave. I find it absurd. There is no evidence at this time for the transsexual angle, as far as I can see, presented here.

...And the video about ring finger size and shoulder width presented as 'evidence?!' I don't even know how to respond in finding this presented at this website. Sadder still that people here are giving any credence to such ideas. ...Why not get out your phrenology tools and measure her skull, as well? Michelle brings up a lot of fear in some people, apparently. Disappointing to find people at such an ignorant level here.


Unfortunately the sources for the vast majority of the "evidence" in any 'conspiracies' critical of Obama are a handful of small web sources that pass for conservative media, often with all their ignorant fears interjected into their 'research.' Their fears are easily exploitable by pranksters and by those seeking to muddy the waters and obfuscate and deflect from any real evidence against Obama by interjecting false 'evidence' into the mix.

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Posted by KiwiElf (here)
We have a transexual Mayor in this country, (Georgina Beyer, Mayor of Carterton), and you know what? No-one gives a damn because she's good at her job. She was voted in by that city - for quite a few terms. She is now a respected member of government. Transexuals can no more change what/who they are than a person can change their sexuality, skin colour or eye colour. (Not that it has anything to do with Michelle, who I doubt wields any great power in any case).

If we can't get along with each other (and our differences) what future do we have? The content of this video reeks of ill-informed, devisive prejudice in one form or another.

Let's get out of the dark ages into the 21st Century, shall we?.

I think the true issue is : Americans have been LIED to regarding our President and his wife, Michelle. Have we not.?
I do not care about their sexuality or gender bending. I wanted the TRUTH of who represents me. Period. Do I have that???
Also, is my country enriched by his tenure as President, to date?

[raregem]

Posted by Jovian (here)
^ ^ I don't know that I agree that everyone here is taking it 'seriously.' ...Clearly some are not really interested in separating the wheat from the chaff as far as the evidence and are content coming from a position of lower-functioning ignorance with ad hominem attacks upon a woman who doesn't fit their sad 1950's two-dimensional June Cleaver household model of how a woman should appear and behave. I find it absurd. There is no evidence at this time for the transsexual angle, as far as I can see, presented here.

...And the video about ring finger size and shoulder width presented as 'evidence?!' I don't even know how to respond in finding this presented at this website. Sadder still that people here are giving any credence to such ideas. ...Why not get out your phrenology tools and measure her skull, as well? Michelle brings up a lot of fear in some people, apparently. Disappointing to find people at such an ignorant level here.


Unfortunately the sources for the vast majority of the "evidence" in any 'conspiracies' critical of Obama are a handful of small web sources that pass for conservative media, often with all their ignorant fears interjected into their 'research.' Their fears are easily exploitable by pranksters and by those seeking to muddy the waters and obfuscate and deflect from any real evidence against Obama by interjecting false 'evidence' into the mix.

I have been seeing more statements made regarding IGNORANCE of the posters and how in the world could we "Avalonians" be so dense and write the things we write. What is the sense in having this forum if people come back attacking the topic itself ? Forget that you also are attacking the poster, too. This topic is necessary (IMHHHO) to dissect. Yes, there will be condescension given. So what.? This is a viable topic considering all the other lies our system has brainwashed us into. Why should this topic be given free reign of complete ignoring not out of ignorance but b/c some poster defends our national leader.?

[araucaria]

Posted by raregem (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
We have a transexual Mayor in this country, (Georgina Beyer, Mayor of Carterton), and you know what? No-one gives a damn because she's good at her job. She was voted in by that city - for quite a few terms. She is now a respected member of government. Transexuals can no more change what/who they are than a person can change their sexuality, skin colour or eye colour. (Not that it has anything to do with Michelle, who I doubt wields any great power in any case).

If we can't get along with each other (and our differences) what future do we have? The content of this video reeks of ill-informed, devisive prejudice in one form or another.

Let's get out of the dark ages into the 21st Century, shall we?.

I think the true issue is : Americans have been LIED to regarding our President and his wife, Michelle. Have we not.?
I do not care about their sexuality or gender bending. I wanted the TRUTH of who represents me. Period. Do I have that???
Also, is my country enriched by his tenure as President, to date?

You are right, there are several issues here and gender-bending is not one of them. For me the first question to be answered is, is it reasonable to expect a candidate for public office to disclose these perfectly acceptable personal details? In the current climate, I would say yes. Others, like Kiwielf’s example, submit much more gracefully and honestly than the Obamas regarding their private issues. Obama would seem to have been more economical with the truth than with the country’s tax dollars, and that is a problem.

The gender issue merely reiterates the ambiguity of the role of first ladies in the first place. Here in France, we had a president who changed first ladies while on the job, then a president who was elected was unmarried and working in an unofficial capacity for the presidency, and who forfeited her ‘job’ along with her presidential consort when Hollande dumped her. None of this would have been relevant had there not been this ambiguity over a non-elected semi-public figure.

You also have someone like Simon Parkes, who disclosed his triple reptilian/mantid/human makeup to his electors, who promptly re-elected him. This vote of confidence has given him extra confidence in what he does both for his constituents and for others including Avalonians. You then have to compare this situation with the Obamas’ less than frankness, which inspires a good deal of distrust. When you are clearly hiding something or things, you are going to provoke speculation as to what these things are; and that speculation is going to be a mixture of truths and falsehoods. If Obama had said, ‘I know this is really none of your business, but we are not the ordinary mom-and-pop-and-two-kids outfit you might think we are. But I can do the job.’, then would the American people have elected him? Probably not, which may have motivated the non-disclosure and got him in on false pretences. However they may just possibly have accepted him for his courage, as Simon was; but that was something Obama’s handlers could not allow to happen.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

My guess it’s photoshopped. See the difference in coloration at neck line? Also, who ever added the arms didn’t remove one last layer of pixel. There’s also missing detail on seam line around the arm area. That’s a dead give away that it was smudged and blurred to merge. The arm has a subtle pink undertone and the face does not. (easier to see when it's blown up) The upper shoulder is smudged and blurred to hide the difference in tones and added parts. And the irregular shading implies parts were added.

[Robin]

^^^I think that this photo was supposed to be satire. It was supposed to be an obvious photoshop to add humor to the issue that many people have fallen for the lie without questioning it.

[DNA]

Posted by raregem (here)

I think the true issue is : Americans have been LIED to regarding our President and his wife, Michelle. Have we not.?
I do not care about their sexuality or gender bending. I wanted the TRUTH of who represents me. Period. Do I have that???
Also, is my country enriched by his tenure as President, to date?

I agree with you. I also want to know if my president is responsible for killing people who would hurt his credibility and or chances in becoming president in the first place as is stated by one of the mothers of the three dead homosexual men from Obamma's church who all died with seven weeks of eachother in the months of November and December 2007. Also of note two of those men who died from Obamma's church were killed execution style.

[lizfrench]

Okay now this IS unusual...has anyone seen the video of Joan Rivers saying Obama is gay and Michelle is a "tranny" as she is walking in to the clinic where she ended up having cardiac arrest? It was posted somewhere on Avalon today, sorry can't remember which thread. Admittedly I am rethinking this whole scenario.

[araucaria]

Posted by lizfrench (here)
Okay now this IS unusual...has anyone seen the video of Joan Rivers saying Obama is gay and Michelle is a "tranny" as she is walking in to the clinic where she ended up having cardiac arrest? It was posted somewhere on Avalon today, sorry can't remember which thread. Admittedly I am rethinking this whole scenario.

Several places, e.g. post #64 on this thread!

[Jovian]

Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
^^^I think that this photo was supposed to be satire. It was supposed to be an obvious photoshop to add humor to the issue that many people have fallen for the lie without questioning it.

Of course it's Photoshopped. I'm honestly baffled, amused, and yes--perturbed, that this fact is being debated. ...It seems rather clear to me that this "humor" is far from some witty satire and is instead par for the course for the ignorant type in the conservative crowd that is absolutely scared of this first lady who doesn't fit their narrow image of woman, so they make juvenile graphics--and vile commentary--to share with others of their ilk in order to feel safe in the righteousness of their small worldview. (Hmm--younger souls that I wish I had more patience for. ...I'll have to look at that.)

You folks perhaps haven't read the types of conservative sites that have done the bulk of "exposing" the Obama conspiracies--the sound ones, as well as the dubious claims. The partisan commentary at such sites appeals to the extreme fears and emotions of this subset. The venom-spewing responses by readers of those sites clearly show the enmity with which a large bulk of people view this president and what he represents to them. The types who created the above image also make caricatures involving monkeys and bananas when referring to the president. ...Monkeys and bananas! Ways of thinking that reasonable people assume had died out fifty years ago are still very present in parts of this country.

Certainly, I think Obama is a complete fraud. There is a long list of reasonable evidence for such. But I think most of such "humor" (including Joan Rivers' joke), as well as this witch hunt for a "transsexual first lady," is rather reflective of the racist and sexist fears that still exist in this country and would be present regardless of the integrity of the current presidency.

And as always, I will add that intuition is also guiding me--the transsexual angle is not pinging for me.