Here and Now...What's Happening?

[ulli]

Posted by heyokah (here)
Making a little brige here, talking of voting and voters.....

Here are some actual complaints received from dissatisfied customers by Thomas Cook Vacations (based on a Thomas Cook/ABTA survey.)

Beware!!! These people live among us and can vote!

1. “I think it should be explained in the brochure that the local convenience store does not sell proper biscuits like custard creams or ginger nuts.”

2. “It’s lazy of the local shopkeepers in Puerto Vallarta to close in the afternoons. I often needed to buy things during ‘siesta’ time — this should be banned.”

3. “On my holiday to Goa in India , I was disgusted to find that almost every restaurant served curry. I don’t like spicy food.”

4. “We booked an excursion to a water park but no-one told us we had to bring our own swimsuits and towels. We assumed it would be included in the price.”

5. “The beach was too sandy. We had to clean everything when we returned to our room.”

6. “We found the sand was not like the sand in the brochure. Your brochure shows the sand as white but it was more yellow.”

7. “They should not allow topless sunbathing on the beach. It was very distracting for my husband who just wanted to relax.”

8. “No one told us there would be fish in the water. The children were scared.”

9. “Although the brochure said that there was a fully equipped kitchen, there was no egg-slicer in the drawers.”

10. “We went on holiday to Spain and had a problem with the taxi drivers as they were all Spanish.”

11. “The roads were uneven and bumpy, so we could not read the local guide book during the bus ride to the resort. Because of this, we were unaware of many things that would have made our holiday more fun.”

12. “It took us nine hours to fly home from Jamaica to England. It took the Americans only three hours to get home. This seems unfair.”

13. “I compared the size of our one-bedroom suite to our friends’ three-bedroom and ours was significantly smaller.”

14. “The brochure stated: ‘No hairdressers at the resort’. We’re trainee hairdressers and we think they knew and made us wait longer for service.”

15. “There were too many Spanish people there. The receptionist spoke Spanish, the food was Spanish. No one told us that there would be so many foreigners.”

16. “We had to line up outside to catch the boat and there was no air-conditioning.”

17. “It is your duty as a tour operator to advise us of noisy or unruly guests before we travel.”

18. “I was bitten by a mosquito. The brochure did not mention mosquitoes.”

19. “My fiance and I requested twin-beds when we booked, but instead we were placed in a room with a king bed. We now hold you responsible and want to be re-reimbursed for the fact that I became pregnant. This would not have happened if you had put us in the room that we booked.”


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Thanks Heyokah. I've been connected to the hotel trade and lived in touristy places, so I know these kinds of comments are more common than many realize.
While living in Barbados I used to hear cruise line passengers yelling at one another " what island are we on, anyway?"

And quite a few tourists here in Costa Rica had expected to vacation in Puerto Rico, and where upset when they found out that Costa Rica was not an island.

[donk]

I believe the loss of the "siesta" was the turning point, the complete downfall of civilization...it was the last vestage of sanity in our slave society, when the Spanish/Latin countries moved away from that, my hope for our way of life vanished

unrelated:

The scene in the new Apes movie where Gary Oldman’s character was giving the humans a “Hitleresque” speech about the impending terrorist monkey threat triggered an “hmmmmmm” reaction, in the arch in the architecture behind him, there was a VERY similar design to the one adorns the building (built in 1937, apparently) that I work in

I snapped a shot of it today on my way in:

[heyokah]

Posted by donk (here)
I believe the loss of the "siesta" was the turning point, the complete downfall of civilization...it was the last vestage of sanity in our slave society, when the Spanish/Latin countries moved away from that, my hope for our way of life vanished

A few years ago I moved from Amsterdam to the French countryside where life is slow and sweet.

The French are serious about eating. Nowhere is this more evident than at lunchtime, when the entire nation sits down for a proper meal (the biggest and most important meal of the day).
Over 95% of French people do this. Stores and doctor’s offices close. No one answers the phone. The mid-day meal is sacred.

Even children at school get a long lunch break: between one and a half to two hours. A minimum of 30 minutes during that time period is spent sitting at the table, eating the freshly prepared, three- or four-course meals, that kids get every day. The rest of the time is spent playing (and digesting all of that good food).

Why so long? Lunch is supposed to represent up to half of daily caloric intake, so eat big meals at midday rather than in the evening. Plus, the French believe that eating slowly is an essential part of eating properly.

ADD

What French Kids Eat For School Lunch (It puts many countries to shame!)

http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...ericans-shame/

[Carmody]

IIRC, in 1937, the impending open fascism of Germany still had a good public face with the rest of the world. A building opened in 1937 would have been planned in 1935 or thereabouts, so the fascia of the building would have been conceived in the world environment of approx 1935.

[donk]

Posted by Carmody (here)
IIRC, in 1937, the impending open fascism of Germany still had a good public face with the rest of the world. A building opened in 1937 would have been planned in 1935 or thereabouts, so the fascia of the building would have been conceived in the world environment of approx 1935.

It (was) the financial instated started by the DuPont's created to house their zillions in the first decade of last century, I think 1908. The Wilmington pos office was also there in part of the building, I don't know how long though.

...always been rumors of gold bullion stockpiles under the buildings and streets in that area (Rodney Square)

The book Fight Club was set in Wilmington, we sued to have the movie in NY though

[Violet]

Posted by ulli (here)
There comes a point in life where lines become blurred.
That's when it becomes interesting. In political voting scenarios it is called "the marginals" ...

And not even life and death are have clear black and white distinction lines...I read (eons ago) a book called The Romeo Error, by Colin Wilson who has quite a bit to say about that topic.

The PTB have it all figured out ...it makes little difference whom the voters choose these days,
both sides have one single agenda: Elite holds the controls.
At least until Pluto goes into Aquarius...(2025, I believe)

That is 5 years after 2020. Some big events are scheduled for that year.

[araucaria]

Posted by heyokah (here)
The French are serious about eating. Nowhere is this more evident than at lunchtime, when the entire nation sits down for a proper meal (the biggest and most important meal of the day).
Over 95% of French people do this. Stores and doctor’s offices close. No one answers the phone. The mid-day meal is sacred.

Sorry to disagree but in my experience this is thirty or forty years out of date, or at the very least, your figures are way out. There are huge numbers using fast food outlets - often tasty stuff, not trash - and eating their main meal in the evening. 'No one answers the phone'? Tell that to the call centres. Stores don't close so much either, especially in shopping malls, and office workers carry on working. You must be in a very quiet part of the country, for life to be still so slow and sweet, lucky you

[Carmody]

Old story heard here before:

I've got some french blood in me, and tend to eat slow. Usually in the afternoon.

I have a Ukrainian friend, who eats, seemingly, 10x faster than me, at times. I asked him why, and he says, 'Because the Russians are coming!'

[heyokah]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by heyokah (here)
The French are serious about eating. Nowhere is this more evident than at lunchtime, when the entire nation sits down for a proper meal (the biggest and most important meal of the day).
Over 95% of French people do this. Stores and doctor’s offices close. No one answers the phone. The mid-day meal is sacred.

Sorry to disagree but in my experience this is thirty or forty years out of date, or at the very least, your figures are way out. There are huge numbers using fast food outlets - often tasty stuff, not trash - and eating their main meal in the evening. 'No one answers the phone'? Tell that to the call centres. Stores don't close so much either, especially in shopping malls, and office workers carry on working. You must be in a very quiet part of the country, for life to be still so slow and sweet, lucky you

Yes, I live in a part of the Limousin with rather a low population density .... between the 'Limousines' (cows) LOL.

[Skyhaven]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Old story heard here before:

I've got some french blood in me, and tend to eat slow. Usually in the afternoon.

I have a Ukrainian friend, who eats, seemingly, 10x faster than me, at times. I asked him why, and he says, 'Because the Russians are coming!'

Bwahaaa! Good one.

I hope young people get more aware of what they eat, ... serving children good food is important, but raising their awareness about food is even more important in my opinion. Its in some way like the saying, better to teach a man how to fish properly, than to just give them fish.

[ulli]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Old story heard here before:

I've got some french blood in me, and tend to eat slow. Usually in the afternoon.

I have a Ukrainian friend, who eats, seemingly, 10x faster than me, at times. I asked him why, and he says, 'Because the Russians are coming!'

While culture definitely plays a part, still astrology defines the individual's eating habits. The factors to look for in a chart are the moon, the planets angles to the moon, the sign of Cancer, which rules stomach and breast, hence feeding and eating, and the fourth house.

So Moon square Jupiter often gives excessive appetite, and the moon square Saturn means starvation.
whether self imposed or outside conditions. If the moon is also square Uranus, then there is an added rebellion, as in difficult or fussy eater.
Moon in Virgo is careful about whet they put in their mouths.
Moon in the sign of Taurus loves 5 star restaurant food.
The trine or sextile angles mean that the issues flow more harmoniously than with the squares or oppositions.
I have the moon square Pluto, so I might starve myself, by skipping meals altogether,
and then become a wolf when someone puts a pizza in front of me.
Slow eating is a sign of Moon-Venus angles, as one really LOVES and wants to enjoy every bite.



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[donk]

If the moon is an artificial construct, as carmody has suggested and I believe, how is it that it has such an important role in to astrology?

Does Pluto being demoted have any effect?

[Stephanie]

Posted by heyokah (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by heyokah (here)
The French are serious about eating. Nowhere is this more evident than at lunchtime, when the entire nation sits down for a proper meal (the biggest and most important meal of the day).
Over 95% of French people do this. Stores and doctor’s offices close. No one answers the phone. The mid-day meal is sacred.

Sorry to disagree but in my experience this is thirty or forty years out of date, or at the very least, your figures are way out. There are huge numbers using fast food outlets - often tasty stuff, not trash - and eating their main meal in the evening. 'No one answers the phone'? Tell that to the call centres. Stores don't close so much either, especially in shopping malls, and office workers carry on working. You must be in a very quiet part of the country, for life to be still so slow and sweet, lucky you

Yes, I live in a part of the Limousin with rather a low population density .... between the 'Limousines' (cows) LOL.

The ideal sleep pattern for humans is biphasic,a long stretch at night,with shorter respite during the day.
The ideal pattern for animals is polyphasic,alternating sleep and wake cycles,throughout a 24 hour cycle.

My animals and I say...'Viva la Siesta!'

[araucaria]

Posted by Skyhaven (here)
I hope young people get more aware of what they eat, ... serving children

Had to read that bit twice...

[ulli]

Posted by donk (here)
If the moon is an artificial construct, as carmody has suggested and I believe, how is it that it has such an important role in to astrology?

Does Pluto being demoted have any effect?

Who demoted Pluto? Who discredited astrology in the first place?
Whether the moon is artificial, or not, the fact that it causes the ocean tides to rise and fall is well-known.
Which goes for all liquids, not just the water in the ocean.
What about the liquids in our bodies…
and if they shift just a nano millimeter they might affect neuron activity, which in turn can trigger different memories, which in turn trigger emotions.

Moon: responses, emotions, feelings, mother, food, sleep, recuperation, home, bed, dreams, farming.
There are more associations, but this will do for starters.
When you study astrology over the years you will discover that these correlations do indeed fit, every time.

[donk]

Posted by ulli (here)
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Who demoted Pluto? Who discredited astrology in the first place?
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The dreaded "THEY" did it (and pretty much every other craptacular societal push toward the mundane).

...It makes me imagine: what's it take to construct an object large enough to correlate with our reality?

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
If the moon is an artificial construct, as carmody has suggested and I believe, how is it that it has such an important role in to astrology?

Does Pluto being demoted have any effect?

Who demoted Pluto? Who discredited astrology in the first place?
Whether the moon is artificial, or not, the fact that it causes the ocean tides to rise and fall is well-known.
Which goes for all liquids, not just the water in the ocean.
What about the liquids in our bodies…
and if they shift just a nano millimeter they might affect neuron activity, which in turn can trigger different memories, which in turn trigger emotions.

Moon: responses, emotions, feelings, mother, food, sleep, recuperation, home, bed, dreams, farming.
There are more associations, but this will do for starters.
When you study astrology over the years you will discover that these correlations do indeed fit, every time.

And if, say, the Moon was found to be on the whole undesirable on account of its occupiers and they were invited to push off, what effect would this have on a person’s horoscope, and what if anything would be needed to put in its place in order to maintain any positive effects.

For example, as I mentioned once before, I think, lumping many birth charts around full moon, when maternity wards are busiest, might have an unwanted effect on the population at large, and to change that might be a good idea.

[ulli]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
If the moon is an artificial construct, as carmody has suggested and I believe, how is it that it has such an important role in to astrology?

Does Pluto being demoted have any effect?

Who demoted Pluto? Who discredited astrology in the first place?
Whether the moon is artificial, or not, the fact that it causes the ocean tides to rise and fall is well-known.
Which goes for all liquids, not just the water in the ocean.
What about the liquids in our bodies…
and if they shift just a nano millimeter they might affect neuron activity, which in turn can trigger different memories, which in turn trigger emotions.

Moon: responses, emotions, feelings, mother, food, sleep, recuperation, home, bed, dreams, farming.
There are more associations, but this will do for starters.
When you study astrology over the years you will discover that these correlations do indeed fit, every time.

And if, say, the Moon was found to be on the whole undesirable on account of its occupiers and they were invited to push off, what effect would this have on a person’s horoscope, and what if anything would be needed to put in its place in order to maintain any positive effects.

For example, as I mentioned once before, I think, lumping many birth charts around full moon, when maternity wards are busiest, might have an unwanted effect on the population at large, and to change that might be a good idea.

The answer to the first question is 'I don't know'…because that which I do keep as reference,
is what my gift for statistics has proven to me.

About full moon births…when I first read in some astrology book that it brings issues to do with generation gaps
( I was studying my father's chart at the time), I was amazed at the accuracy, in his case, anyway.
He was the youngest of six children and both parents were 40 years older than him,
and then he didn't have his first child (me) until he was 37.

I didn't know that more children are born at full moon.
Full moon means there is an axis…the energies of the sun come into the earth from one side,
and the energies of the moon from the opposite.
So here we come to my favorite personal subject, that astrology is not so much about 12 signs, but about six axis of two signs each:
signs which either complement one another (provided there is an open attitude and love) or reject one another outright,
due to the aversion of one's own repressed and unacknowledged tendencies.

[transiten]

I miss a dog....

https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=OYx7VcFV6GA

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)

I didn't know that more children are born at full moon.
Full moon means there is an axis…the energies of the sun come into the earth from one side,
and the energies of the moon from the opposite.
So here we come to my favorite personal subject, that astrology is not so much about 12 signs, but about six axis of two signs each:
signs which either complement one another (provided there is an open attitude and love) or reject one another outright,
due to the aversion of one's own repressed and unacknowledged tendencies.

Also, as Carmody has indicated, whatever your birth moon, (Jewish) circumcision is deliberately timed one week later in order, as I recall, to cause most damage.

Last year, I had ideas of starting a thread on what might be done about the Moon: if it came here under its own steam, there shouldn’t be a problem getting rid of it – beyond putting it in reverse gear out of its parking orbit. That was the feasibility part, but I was also thinking of the desirability aspect. We are told all the good things that the Moon does for us, but is that really the case and shouldn’t we have a referendum on independence?

I think I’ll rephrase that ….