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    What overpopulation really means to the überrich elite. It has nothing to do with the health of the planet or the people, and everything to do with the loss of their outrageous supremacy. A banker’s sob story: ‘Asians eating our lunch and dinner’. ‘The 80:20 rule is going to be a 35:65 rule, and that puts a challenge of dramatic proportions to anybody who’s at a business school today or graduating.’

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZwkhFemQ

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    "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000"

    Lets analyze this one. What do they mean by "maintain"? Ask yourself that. Ask who wrote it? Oh wait, apparently he's "unavailable". Oh I see, biblical principles. Well now I guess it's all fine then. Nevermind that part that talks about keeping the world pop. Under 500,000,000.

    "Guide reproduction"? What do they mean by that? Guide it wisely, then on about diversity and fitness. How would the "authorities" guide reproduction? Is it not a free will thing?
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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    Inelia Benz has her finger on the collective pulse IMO. I am adding this here as it seems to me that dissonance is generated by what could be neutral reasonable content in this particular case of the Guidestones. If youcould place a monumnet for generations to come, what would you say? Have each of us crafted our position statement?

    There is a really big discussion always on PA and elsewhere about what would benefit the collective experience. IMO the discussion is tainted by reactionary loyalty to lack and fear as the basic human orienting motive. Does this stance perpetuate our dilemma of fixation in the states this bias generates.

    Even on PA, there is a call for a new choir to sing a new song and at the same reworking of old ideas that contradict a new emphasis. This is a split collective movement.

    To be so caught up in fear and lack is UN reasonable IMO. It is UN necessary and nature wll show us its fallacy. A dissonant approach could boil down to ego driven insistence on outworn ideas, even when they no longer work for us. What supports continuing to approach life in the same way when that strategy does not support us? Someone called it insanity...it is not reason.

    I see this bias works to undermine my own personal experience. I appreciate the Guide Stones not as a threat or a truth but a basic position of principles to then ponder and adopt based on reason. If this group or man spoke to how they heard a song of reason and made a monument to this vision, should we not ask ourselves if we can agree to sing any part versus shun a whole?


    Quote In 2011 a separation occurred in the human collective. Those who wanted to have a fear free, empowered, aware, awake reality of physical incarnation, and those who didn't. Gaia has actively been pushing for a physical separation that is done through time, three generations, and is trauma free and gentle. We, the human collective, however, have been pushing for a fast and furious separation.

    Various people, and environments I find myself in, have mentioned WWIII, and other doomsday scenarios. I am presently in various conversations via email, txt, physical and at WalkWithMeNow.com, about this topic.

    It appears, very strongly, that a fast physical separation of realities is being chosen by our collective. How this comes about, well, that's what we are playing with at the moment. What we are deciding on.

    Most of the people on Earth will interpret and manifest the choice depending on what is real to them. What choices they see as real.


    One thing to remember is that no one chooses for us, or chooses us, there is no chosen people. No targeted people. It is each person who chooses for themselves. If you are working on yourself, you have chosen an empowered reality, it is that simple......

    ....... there is a third option manifesting. It's is so outside of our reality scale that it needs to be observed.

    Basically, light and dark can and do exist without the other. In fact, that's the only way they can exist. We can see both because there is both existing separately from each other in our world. There is also a reality where neither exists.

    And something that is just appearing in our awareness, is a reality where they both exist as One. Not light and dark making grey, but making a color that is not in our spectrum. Not a reality where they neutralize or mesh, but where a new element emerges.

    The urge to separate to different realities seems to be somehow related to the emergence of this new vibration. It is almost like if we don't separate now, we will be all gobbled up into the new element and that is so unknown, so different, so "not human" that we are pushing our choice hard now. Do you feel fear? Fear could be a pull to familiar surrounds.

    Do we feel a desire to find out more? A way, perhaps to explore where other's have not gone before.

    The only way we can stay clear, and keep our choice conscious, is to actively pursue resonance, and actively not engage in dissonance.The Splitting of the Worlds - Coming to a planet near You!
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    Let's face it. We have the Vatican spewing that birth control is going against god. And then the guide stones stating otherwise, and here's this old fart holding the holy bible, stating "I know who i did it but I'm not telling, nanny nanny booboo. Its a dog and pony show.

    Does this thing sit on a ley line? What purpose does this thing serve, that nobody would think of in a million years.

    Me thinks this thing is hiding something totally unrelated.
    Hidden in plain sight. But what?
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    Quote Posted by Sidney (here)
    and here's this old fart holding the holy bible, stating "I know who i did it but I'm not telling, nanny nanny booboo.
    lol, made me laugh.

    I just realised that there are 10 guidelines, a kind of remake of the 10 commandments ? and they omit the money factor, totally. Now, I am suspecting a hoax of some kind...

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

    1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

    [...][

    What do these highlighted words mean to you?

    Once you've answered the above question, then attempt to answer this one:

    What does it imply to a current 7 billions population?
    I didn't see you had addressed me directly.

    I think these words mean that the crafters of the monument thought this is a number that would support the precepts they value. Are they correct? I personally do not know but it seems very small. I would not see that as the magic number at all.

    But I do see this as a direct contradiction of the three Abrahamic religions which all imply humans are to go out and dominate the earth. So, my perception is that ethos of the builders was that mankind not be a dominant species.

    If one assumes it is a threat to depopulate the earth, it looks different than WHAT IF we had a world where people were not so interested in reproduction of the species but had other values?

    If there are 8 billion people now, how long before we reached a low population? If people assume it is NOW, that is different than in several generations. I don't have stats.

    I see it as a long term potential for a big difference in what is appreciated as human/all speices/ GAIA relationship.

    Also, that is such a small number, I think it implies no wars and health.
    It implies good communication and almost an intimacy with each one human and all others.
    I see that it has many possible meanings. Thanks for asking. Maggie
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    Well, here my views on it:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    "1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE"

    That's the only message I have a real problem with.

    Tell me, how do you reduce a population from 7 billion to 500 million if not through genocide?

    [...]
    I don't know why but, for some reasons, individuals who read that statement keep missing the implication it contains:

    "MAINTAIN... UNDER... XYZ..." basically it implies never to let the population go over that number... which means that the original left-over population grows from far below that limit number... that is, far below 500 millions!


    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    What bugs me with the first guideline (Maintain humanity under 500,000,000....) is that it indicates a repopulation to be maintained below that number... that means the starting number could very well be 0 (zero -- implying a new seeding from elsewhere) or a few 1000s or may be a few millions but, in any case, from somewhere below 500 millions.

    That's a total wipe out!

    Yet, there is the assumption that the remaining people or new incoming ones would be able to read/decipher those inscriptions... unless it's to be used as some sort of Rosetta Stone by future archeologists as a starting point to unravel a fossilized Vatican library?

    The other interesting thing is it doesn't advocate the interbreeding dear to the aristocratic or religious bloodlines, to the contrary.... And the rest of it is actually in the face of the current NWO advocates and their agenda: seen any evidence of just courts lately? Useful officials? Promotion of truth? Etc.

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    As for that 5[00] million figure; what's the math behind it?

    Simple:

    • 500 families
    • each family allowed 1 million relatives as "chosen ones"
    That's that!


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    The followings from Sue Arrigo's case 26 "Your sickness and genocide" exposes what's occurring around the world, from Fukushima to the various type of diabetes tied to hypothyroidism, directly from the horse's mouth:


    In CIA researcher Robert Morrow’s book First Hand Knowledge he says that he was asked by the CIA to find a way to disable or kill all Americans except those that were able to get a life-saving drug that the Shadow Government could control. He decided that the best way to do that would be to cause hypothyroidism and control the supply of thyroid replacement medication. In fact, there has been a growing epidemic of hypothyroidism in the US. Some scientists attribute that to the above ground nuclear explosions at the Nevada Test site. It has been estimated that 60,000 new cases of thyroid cancer resulted from those tests. Meanwhile, people’s ability to buy desiccated animal thyroid supplement over the counter has disappeared. While such events could be coincidences, the research that I read led me to conclude that the Shadow Govt. sincerely wanted to have that kind of control over people’s health and lives and were working slowly and steadily towards that goal. When they are vigorously opposed by consumer groups they suffer setbacks in their agenda. Such setbacks have been many.If people only understood how dependent they are on the ignorance and apathy of the public, they would tell all their friends and neighbors and stop the Shadow Government’s control over the population.

    Although it is difficult to believe that the Robber Barons would target Americans, and not just foreigners, it is true. I have supplied you with a bit of the evidence of that in other cases, such as the Ludlow Massacre of American women and children in Case 22A, and the unsafe addition of benzoate/benzoic acid, aspartame/Nutrasweet/Equal to sodas. If you read former US intelligence insider Al Martin’s The Conspirators, the US Shadow Govt. under Bush, Sr. as Vice President, had a contingency plan to cause a limited nuclear war in order to have an excuse to impose martial law. Al Martin was briefed on that plan, Operation Orpheus, by Col. Ollie North of Iran Contra Scandal infamy. Al Martin asked Ollie North how many American lives the US Administration planned to expend in that limited nuclear war. Ollie North said, “It is just a number.” When Al Martin pressed him on what the number was he said, “50 to 70 million Americans.” If that is how many would die, how many would be left sick afterwards? Those who survived would be at high risk of cancer. And essentially all of those downwind from it would become hypothyroid and would only be able to function if they were able to obtain thyroid supplements from the drug companies. Those supplements could be rationed or made so expensive that only those who were loyal to the Robber Barons could get them.

    The US Administration has been making many new germs and using the vaccines only for their own use. The HIV virus is a BioWarfare germ which was developed at Fort Detrick.

    Over the past two decades there have been only a handful of other physicians and health professionals who have had the courage to alert the public to evidence that AIDS is man-made (namely Robert Strecker MD, William Campbell Douglass MD, Eva Snead MD, and Leonard G Horowitz DDS)’ and Dr. Alan Cantwell author of Queer Blood. http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-evidence-hiv-was-man-made-bio.html

    It was tested under the supervision of CIA officer Jim Jones on US blacks, hispanics, and Native Americans at Jonestown British Guiana. I met Jim Jones in the halls of the CIA after that. He did not die in that CIA mass murder atrocity that killed over 900 people. Most were not so well mind controlled as to ‘voluntarily commit suicide on cue’. Please read the book “Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? by Robert Meier for more information. HIV did not accidently escape from Fort Detrick; it was intentionally used to target populations, mainly blacks and Third World people. For example, HIV infected units of blood were sent to sickle cell clinics in Africa, put in vaccines used in Africa, India, Thailand, etc. But, infected blood was also wittingly sent by the Shadow govt. to Canada with the intention of infecting that population as well. The Robber Barons only consider the top 500 wealthiest families in the world to be “their own”. In their agenda, they want to allow each of those families to have a million relatives on the face of the earth and wipe out all the other people. That can be done by creating new germs and taking safe vaccines to them, while withholding those vaccines from everyone else. Thus, they have developed a vaccine against HIV which they have taken but hidden from the rest of the world. In my report to Tenet, I stated that this was a crime against humanity which was being perpetuated on a daily basis. After he read my report, I asked him what he was going to do about all those crimes against humanity, as each new germ represented one. He hemmed and hawed and then offered lamely that he was not the one making the decision. I asked him who was. He did not answer that question directly. He said, “Well, you can come with me to the next Presidential briefing in the morning and discuss it with Bush, if you think that it will do any good.”

    I doubted it would do any good, but in the interests of thoroughness I did it anyway. I took with me a large stake of my report. My report was over 225 pages with a couple hundred pages of supporting documents. So, each report was almost a ream width of paper. I put 10 of them in a box to take with me. Both Cheney and Bush were at that Presidential briefing that morning. And Rice was called into it when I started giving my briefing on the poor quality of the research done at the BioWarfare Labs. At the end of my almost 12 minutes, I concluded with my recommendation that all the labs be closed down.

    Bush, Jr. said to me, “We wanted to know how to make the research more effective. What are your recommendations to do that?”

    I asked him, “More effective in what way?” That was a loaded question because they did not want to come out and say in front of the many foreign bugs likely to be in the Oval Office, “At killing off most of the people in the world so we can have all the resources of the planet for just our own children.” So, there was a brief uncomfortable silence.

    Then Cheney said, “You know what we want. What do we have to do to get the level of science up to be able to accomplish it?”

    I started off on the tangent of how to make the research safe enough to even do and recommended tongue in cheek that it at least be moved off shore to join their investments. Rice laughed at that. The others did not. They wanted the BioWarfare Labs on US soil to be able to claim an accidental release when one was intentional. That suggested to me that Rice was not as close into the loop on the actual agenda as the others.

    Cheney then said to me “Just get to the point and tell us what needs to be done to get the kill ratios up to usable to immobilize a whole population.”

    I said, “Of healthy well fed soldiers or starving villagers?”

    He said, “Assume a healthy population’.

    Then Bush, Jr. added in “What does it take to kill everyone who isn’t vaccinated? Can’t we just use several germs at the same time?”

    Cheney frowned at that because Bush had said more than was wise for plausible deniability. He tried to cover for Bush and added, “In the event of war.”

    I said, “We are in a war now. It is likely that MiddleEasterners have different susceptibility rates than Westerners.”

    Bush, Jr. said, “Well, we want to be able to cover all bases.”

    Tenet rolled his eyes up to the ceiling at Bush’s continued faux pas.

    Rice tried to rescue him this time and said, “This is just theoretical so that we understand all facets of the problem.”

    Bush leapt back in and said, “No, I really need to know in case I decide to launch this globally.”

    Cheney got up and left the room, apparently because Bush had said too much and he didn’t want to be implicated by what else Bush said. But that did not help Cheney because the next thing that Bush, Jr. said was ‘Cheney and I already discussed this before you came this morning and we are of the same mind on it. We want the capacity to wipe out all of the “lesser beings” on the planet.

    I played dumb and asked him how he defined that.

    He said, “You know, all those who are not members of the CFR already

    “And their families?” I offered.

    “Well, not all of them,” he said. “You know The List.”

    I handed him a copy of it to make sure that we were talking about the same list. He nodded yes, and repeated “What do we have to do to get down to just those people?”

    I told him that their current plans were not good because the science was so faulty that even if you used multiple germs that those people had already received the vaccines on, that the number of people left alive were likely to overwhelm all defenses and overrun and kill the perpetrators.

    “That means us, doesn’t it?” he asked.

    Rice was shifting uncomfortably in her chair--apparently she knew that her family was not on that list.

    I said, “Yes. And I don’t think that you can improve the research quality at the Labs without inspiring a culture of honesty in them first.”

    “How do we do that?” he asked.

    “Leadership” I replied. “Model the behavior that you want them to have by being honest.”

    “What about incentives? Cash incentives?”, he asked.

    “You already have such a system in place. The researchers know that they can get an extra $100,000 by creating a new germ. It is not improving the quality of the research, it is only making more germs.”

    “But then we will succeed by having lots of them!” he asserted.

    “No, lots of them are “me too” germs and they can cause the body to develop immunity to many of the other germs in the program.”

    “Then we can imprison all those who don’t do good research, to improve the quality. How long should they be imprisoned for?”

    “I really don’t think that will work either”, I said. “They will get more devious, but not more honest.

    We went around in circles like this for a while. Finally, Tenet said it was getting late.

    Bush ended by saying, “I don’t think my being more honest is a good idea. People would find out the truth. I think that you better explain this to Rockefeller as I sure don’t want to have to. He is going to be very disappointed in you. You are failing to make this work the way we want it to. I don’t think that will be good for your health, if you keep on resisting us in this.”

    Cheney came back in as Tenet and I were about to leave. I gave him, Bush, and Rice copies of my report. I also left a copy for Rumsfeld, the Head of the JCS, and others until I had none left.

    Cheney said, “You expect us to read this?” I said, “The first 5 pages are the executive summary. The rest is to prove what I said in those 5 pages.”

    Bush said, “Oh, I can read that much” and picked his copy back up off the side table he had set it on. Then he said to me vehemently, “This better deliver what I want or you will be sorry when Rockefeller hears of it.”

    Cheney said to Bush, “Don’t worry. We have others to replace her.”

    The next month they had 3 other people review the BioWarfare Lab’s research without first giving them my report. Those 3 people said much the same that I did--the science at the BioWarfare Labs was seriously flawed and untrustworthy.

    Since the Shadow Govt. intends to make new germs to kill off 11 out of every 12 people, without exempting Americans, please inform your friends and neighbors to mobilize to stop. Use non-violent protests like Martin Luther King, Jr. taught us to do. There is still enough time. The poor science at those BioWarfare Labs means that the Shadow Government cannot count on a single of their exclusive vaccines working well to protect them. All they have is Yes men saying they will work. They are poorly tested because they wanted to hide the fact that they have made those germs. What they have is a 3-Stooges type of genocide by germ warfare plan.

    The US Administration has not even been able to get the Iraqi people clean water and electricity after 5 years. Hitler was able to consolidate his gains into workable occupations and move onto to invading the next country using his success in the first countries. The current administration does not have the skill needed to have a single successful occupation after more time than the US spent fighting WWII. They think that they can lie their way to success by just declaring “Mission Accomplished”.

    As I said before, Skull and Bones, the Rockefeller Family and the Illuminati in general worship death and believe that the gods they worship are pleased by it. They believe that their gods grant them favors, such as wealth, in proportion to how well they provide fear, anger, and ritual human sacrifices for them to feed off of. This is standard Aztec human sacrifice kind of magical thinking. Never mind that the Aztecs, the Druids, and Incans, that practiced such human sacrifices were ultimately unsuccessful as societies. They still appealed to the Pirates of Skull and Bones and the pseudo-mystical Illuminati. These people are not scientists. They do not have the patience for. They just want to rape and plunder populations without having to think too much about it.

    Later I had a discussion with David Rockefeller over this Illuminati intended genocide of most of the planet’s population. That was shortly after Tenet resigned from the CIA but had not yet been replaced. So, McLaughlin was acting Director of CIA. And I had accompanied him to a Washington DC evening meeting at which David Rockefeller was present. After the meeting, McLaughlin and Rockefeller had a private meeting in which I was present mainly as a note taker. But since it touched on the expansion of the US BioWarfare programs, I was unable to keep my mouth firmly shut. Thus, I objected to the expansion and said so in no uncertain terms. Rockefeller accused me of subverting his plans to “purge the world of its shaff.” I said “Other people are not disposable coverings of grain”. He said, “Of course, they are. They are as unnecessary to this planet as extra bolts in a factory which is done making the equipment. There is nothing left to do with them than throw them out when one is done with their usefulness.” I bristled at that. McLaughlin tried to change the subject to defuse the situation. Rockefeller then said something that I did not expect. He said, “Don’t worry. I will have statues made of me that look like Christ so you can still have something to worship.” I was so shocked that I dropped the subject.

    God gives life. Destroying life doesn’t make one a god, it makes one a murderer! If a person thinks that there are too many people on the planet then they should refrain from having children, not go around murdering others like criminals. Christ had no children. There is nothing wrong with practicing celibacy as a way of life.

    Later, I found that not only had David Rockefeller commissioned bronzes of people jumping out of the WTC on 911, but he had commissioned bronzes of himself which looked like religious statues to worship. Because I found photos of them inside the CIA’s David Rockefeller Audio-Visual Center, I took them down to the CIA’s photo ID dept. I asked about 10 people in that dept. who the person represented in the statue was. The statue was textured on the face making it unclear whether the figure was bearded or not. Three of them said Rockefeller, though one of those said Nelson, not David. Most said a saint and two of them said, “Jesus”. That is how well the sculptor accomplished David Rockefeller’s wish to be immortalized as a Christ like figure while planning genocide to kill off 5.5 billion people!

    But apparently he was not alone in that wish because Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II said,“If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
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    Default Re: The Georgia Guidestones have been updated w/ 2014

    Again with the human overpopulation debate and the vitriolic response to the Guidestones...it never ends.

    The Guidestones have been discussed many times before on Avalon, and most members are too quick to accuse whoever erected the stones of being villains who are out to drop nukes on everybody. I understand why this response would be so popular here, but I think that it is wise to take a step back and view the Guidestones in their entirety, objectively, without emotional attachment.

    When you really think about it, what the Guidestones have inscribed on them are beautiful ideals. The one that always stands out is, of course, the ideal human population number. People assume strait away that this means that the "Elite" intend to wipe out billions of people to achieve this number.

    First of all, who is saying that the person/people who erected these stones are part of the Satanic manipulation of this planet? For all we know, it could have been erected by somebody who is trying to make the planet a better place, with the intention of this human population number to be something to strive for naturally and out of free will.

    And why not? It sounds like a good number to strive for to be proper stewards of this planet. To get down to that number, we don't have to drop nukes on humans. We don't even have to make a law to require people to only have one child.

    Really, once humans understand the nature of our reality and recognize that they are sovereign beings who have been manipulated for a long time, and that we are powerful spirits, it may simply come natural in the future for people to maintain a stable population number.

    Once we become united and remove our shackles and increase education and awareness to every individual, we can reach 500,000,000 in the distant future naturally. It's simple: everybody collectively understands our dire situation and feels the emotions of the earth, and decides to make decisions of their own free will, out of a service-to-others desire to seriously help humanity and the planet, and does what it takes to be proper stewards of this planet (which may include choosing out of free will to have one child).
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    About bulldozing it down ... common law is about not damaging property of someone else. Do we respect that?

    What I was wondering is that the property it is on must be owned by someone. It must be possible to get a name
    and ask for an explanation. That person (legal entity) must have sanctioned to place it there.

    What should happen more often is that we demand responsibility from the appropriate authorities. Same as with
    9/11 ... I say it again: it doesn't matter who did what ... Demand a clarification because the official storyline is
    bunch of baloney.

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    Quote What overpopulation really means to the überrich elite. It has nothing to do with the health of the planet or the people, and everything to do with the loss of their outrageous supremacy. A banker’s sob story: ‘Asians eating our lunch and dinner’. ‘The 80:20 rule is going to be a 35:65 rule, and that puts a challenge of dramatic proportions to anybody who’s at a business school today or graduating.’

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZwkhFemQ

    Quote They are mostly the ones now bought up by China since the US first wanted to beat them to the punch.
    I posted an article on Bobs other thread in a similar context....I have been hearing
    from various sources among discussions in vids I've watched/listened to over te
    past few years that China has had direct backing from one ET group since the
    mid 1990's ( As are alleged other countries from earlier on going contacts)
    Whether this is connected with Chinas Africa strategy who knows ?


    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...140#post872140



    China Is Africa's New Colonial Overlord







    http://www.ibtimes.com/china-africas...oodall-1556312



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    Also there is advanced technology that is being suppressed in
    the secret space programme etc.....This has happened over
    the last century. If this was released the population issue
    may be looked at differently.....

    Three Suppressed Technologies that Could Revolutionize Daily Life

    Sunday 21st September 2014 at 05:06 By david-icke



    ‘The US has a long history of suppressing technologies in an effort to help
    government aligned corporations extend their profits. This history dates
    back over 100 years which we will outline — in part — in this article.

    Nikola Tesla

    Nikola Tesla, the man who discovered how to useAlternating Current
    (AC) electricity, has many rumors surrounding his life. Born in 1856,
    he has basically disappeared from the history books, only for people
    to rediscover his work thanks to the internet.

    He was a well known inventor in his time, first arriving in America to
    work for Thomas Edison. He later branched out on his own in disgust
    of Thomas Edison’s business practices. A rivalry between Tesla and
    Edison soon became apparent as the debate over AC/DC electricity
    heated up. Tesla, who ended up winning the debate, argued that AC
    electricity was more efficient and cost effective, which was true.’

    Read more: Three Suppressed Technologies that Could Revolutionize Daily Life
    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/09/2...ze-daily-life/

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    If You want a nice conspiracy theory that may possibly tie in with the Guide stones,
    a couple of posts on a thread Bob posted....

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...573#post872573
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    Re: Military Intervention being discussed to stop the spread..

    Hi Bob I know this is off the wall and pure 'rabbit hole ' stuff, but what keeps coming
    to mind is the possible clearance of Africa. I know this is unlikely and illogical but......

    In Kerry's Project Camelot interview with Captain Philips , she says he told her that
    Africa has been given to a ET race to colonise.

    I don't know if it was part or the whole continent. This does sound far fetched
    but if there was nuclear war involving Israel . The of the battle of Armageddon
    on the plains of Meggido set up by TPTB. This could effect areas of North Africa
    if designed to do so.




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    West , Central and Eastern Africa by the spread of Ebola.




    I know cures are being developed and tested and some already work , and there
    are plenty of other theories to what is going on with Ebola .....
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    Is the Aids virus still rampant in South Africa ?

    NEW YORK TIMES....

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/he...pfar.html?_r=0




    It just so happened some of the passengers on MH17 were experts going to an Aids conference




    This is all speculation and probably wrong. But you must admit its a script to a classic sky fy thriller movie...LOL

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    Oh there was one a few years ago set in South Africa about Aliens landing there...




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    Africa has also been connected in the past with the Annunaki and the Dogon and probably
    many others. The TV series the EVENT some say was a partial disclosure of a upcoming
    scenario and it was weird how it was cancelled after one season just as the worlds were
    about to come together either in a very close orbit or collision ? I cannot remember which....

    I also cannot remember if Kerry said the new ET's to colonise Africa are a new group or old ?

    I'm just throwing it into the pot....LOL




    The Event season 1
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=ELcNSqzUldAXU


    Part of the finale plot was about a 'biological weapon'....Just saying how the TPTB are supposed to put all upcoming events in the public eye so to speak ......

    The Event "The Arrival"




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    The Dogons: An extraordinary set of people from Mali, West Africa have baffled
    Nasa Astronauts and well known Rocket Scientists around the world with their
    sophisticated and advanced knowledge of the universe. The Dogon are believed to
    be of Egyptian decent fleeing religious persecutions and their astronomical lore
    goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. The Dogon star, which scientists call
    Sirius B, wasn't even photographed until it was done by a large telescope in 1970.
    How did the Dogon gain this knowledge thousands of years ago without any known
    ancient telescopes yet to be found???????

    DOGONS also found that the INVISIBLE star (sirius B) had an elliptical orbit of 60
    years around sirius A as well as an orbit of 1 year on it's own axis, as well as other
    complex findings that NASA (National Association of Stupid AROGANTS) is still
    trying to "CONFIRM" with their ADVANCED telescopes and SPACE shuttles.
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    I'm pretty shocked at some of the responses to this thread. I'm all for looking at things from a different angle, but no matter which angle I look at it from, I come to the conclusion that these stones were erected by Eugenicists.
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    Quote I'm pretty shocked at some of the responses to this thread. I'm all for looking at things from a different angle, but no matter which angle I look at it from, I come to the conclusion that these stones were erected by Eugenicists.
    I have been connecting dots today on several threads and most of these
    manipulated events are connected , but by Who ? We all suspect several
    possibilities, but its all connecting together......

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    A post I put on Jackovesks thread earlier , Amzer has got an Agenda 21 thread
    on the go as well.....

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Of-The-Species


    Don't mis understand this post and as far as I'm concerned the Third right regime
    developed into one of the most evil in history along with many others especially
    communist, and imperial empires and democratic ones in North America. Africa ,
    Asia and Australia. Indiginous populations have suffered terribly.

    Biological warfare is very old the tossing of rotten corpeses into enemy cities and
    fouling drinking water goes right back , and if you believe Virmanas and other
    ancient texts we may have nuked ourselves before....

    Now concentration camps were first set up by the British in the Boer war in the
    modern sense.and the Nasis in the 1930's/40's were getting some of their ideology
    from existing sources.

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    I was looking at an article about Eugenics, which is still be played out in Agenda 21
    which is interesting and plays into the part of this discussion about who was really
    behind all this chaos......


    This was a scary little vid that popped up while I was googling.....




    The Mindset of the Ruling Elite - Depopulation
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    Uploaded on 23 Apr 2011


    Those running (ruining) the world today, think in exactly the same way as
    Bernard Shaw and all the other Eugenicists of the 19th / 20th centuries.

    Vaccines, Fluoridated Water, Bisphenol A in plastics, Pesticides, Soya
    (so-called "health food") and Genetically Modified foods, can cause Sterility
    in humans. And they're all promoted from the very same people who believe
    that the earth is overpopulated. Are they secretly Sterilizing the population?
    A chemical assault upon humanity?

    Listen to Bill Gates say that Vaccines will be used to lower Population:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=i-lqDM...

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    Eugenics, Depopulation and the Elite Mindset

    Sunday 21st September 2014 at 05:33 By david-icke




    Eugenics, Depopulation and the Elite Mindset

    Eugenics
    Social Engineering

    by Zen Gardner - Sep 20, 2014




    ‘Let’s suppose the elitist scum working to ruin and control our lives and planet are
    in some fashion real people to some extent. I know, a stretch, but let’s try. So how
    can they perpetrate such horrors on humanity? How could such madness be
    justified in the minds of men, however psychopathic?

    Actually, it’s easy. For self promotion, preservation and power they’ve allowed
    themselves to be convinced the power is theirs and the right thing to do. But what’s
    their fundamental tenet for mass murder?

    Everything they think and believe is a fabricated bastardization and reversal of any
    real Truth, but in their minds they’ve decided this wicked, inhuman illuminist
    takeover makes sense to them. Especially with their fat cheeks being firmly
    ensconced in the seats of power.’


    Oh, the vestiges of their human conscience may give some of them a nudge in
    some cases, but it’s been shut down almost completely for most of them. It has to
    be. You can’t have empathy and wreak such death dealing havoc on nature and
    humanity.

    If you’ve ever known or observed a pathological liar, this cauterized mindset is their
    way of life. Politicians do it without the slightest compunction. To them it’s part of
    the job description for ruling the unwashed masses. How is it justified logically? The
    old “necessary evil” ruse, as in the justification for 9/11 and myriad of other actions.

    The even more amazing thing is that they smugly revel in this ugliness, thinking
    they’re the “good guys”.

    Convincing the Cattle to Die – Eugenics Justifies All

    Think about it. What a slam dunk for world domination to so twist perception to
    where humanity is the problem that needs to be curtailed by draconian controls
    while being systematically exterminated like a pest infestation. Be it engineered
    wars, poverty and food shortages; drugging, corrupted food, and water; dumbed
    down information and media, or injecting toxins in our bodies, all is fair game to them.

    Eugenics is the “tie that binds”, the glue that holds all the other lies conveniently
    together. And it takes the sting out of outright mass murder. For them. It’s
    a “cleaning” and “preparation” for their desired world to come.

    Look what Agenda 21 controls are perpetrated via things like climate change and
    CO2 fabrications. Sure, we’re in the throes of massive climate extremes for many
    reasons, many of them geoengineered, but to blame it on cattle flatulence and
    human breathing must be some kind of macabre inside joke. Bottom line is they
    are planning a great “culling of the herd” and need our permission. We’ve read
    about it for decades in their elitist writings, and this is how they justify it and hope
    to convince us as much as possible of the same. That’s the alert.

    Remember, not waking up and saying no is ultimately humanity’s imprimatur that it
    agrees. That’s where empowerment comes in. We can say no and reverse all this,
    just as we’ve done in many instances. But the awakened shout out needs to be
    immediate and insistent.



    A Little Background

    As eugenics, called the “self-direction of human evolution”, grew out of its inception
    in the 1800’s, it was considered the harmonious result of all branches of science.
    The US was the first to implement eugenics programs as early as 1908 and it
    gained a lot of popularity and traction. What stopped it in its tracks, at least in
    public opinion, was the Nazi implementation of eugenics during WW2 to the obvious
    horror of all, however backed by the American program and exaggerated by Zionists.

    This would later turn out to be an amazingly cunning pre-planned propaganda tool
    as we’ll discuss below.

    But now look how this eugenics campaign has been revived and is currently
    perpetrated. With innocuous sounding names like Planned Parenthood to the UN’s
    dastardly Agenda 21, the mass hive mind sees these measures as “progress” while
    knowing little to nothing about the extensive anti-human nevermind anti-freedom
    measures being foisted upon them.

    And it’s not just genetic culling, it’s mass population reduction.

    An elitist think tank called The Club of Rome set the latest stage for this last push
    to demonize humanity with the contrived invention of militant, invasive
    environmentalism. This appeared around the same time as the widely
    sensationalized “population bomb” concept. While real ecology and conservationism
    make common sense, this environmental agenda was created with the specific
    intention to foist massive controls over human activities. That we’re now at the
    incredulous point of having to pay a literal carbon tax is a total giveaway of their
    fraudulent intentions.

    Yet few catch on.

    And again, like the lie of human caused global warming, we should feel guilty for
    being alive, to such an extent that even our breath is supposedly killing the planet.

    Insane. Yet they keep pushing their agenda regardless of real scientific data to the contrary.




    Bill Gates Vaccines

    The Cauterized Mind of Dystopians

    While humanity doesn’t share the bestial mindset of the elites and their occult
    driven agenda, these pounding programs wear on people. Over time the continued
    onslaught of these nonsensical anti-truths start to wear a groove in the mass mind.

    The psycho-trauma tool of choice? Cognitive dissonance.

    Resistance subsides as seemingly contrary understandings–in this case, “I’m a
    sovereign human being who deserves life and freedom” vs. “I’m a parasitic
    organism killing my host planet and need to be eradicated”. Screwy, but that’s
    what it boils down to.

    And what gets synthesized in the mind to reconcile the two? “I guess they know
    what they’re doing. Gee, we are bad and something needs to be done.” It doesn’t
    really make sense so the overload causes a shutdown and back to the TV and ball
    game they go, acquiescing by apathy.

    Once again, the intended solution being foisted on society gains traction.

    And daring to oppose this new status-quo? It has now been cleverly engineered to
    be tantamount to terrorism, the ultimate behavioral catch-all.

    Game. Set. Match…or so they think.



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    Zio-Kabbalism – An Identifiable Virus Form

    While the arrogant, intellectual roots of modern eugenics seem to escape
    mainstream consciousness, obvious forms of racism and genocidal extermination,
    as recently exposed in the latest Gaza genocide, have been much
    more evident. That the two are intrinsically connected takes one to the much
    deeper understanding of what’s really going on on this planet – the elimination of
    more conscious and rooted indigenous forms of humanity and the subjugation of
    the remaining human race and its ultimate manipulation into a non-questioning
    subservient form actually loving its enslavement.

    Yes, just like the predictive programming evidenced in literature and film making for centuries.

    The Zionist mindset with its Kabbalistic occult sense of supremacism is a clear
    example of justified extermination of “lesser” beings. An incredible “in your face”
    example that the world turns a blind eye to. Instead, they fall for the big lie created
    by the engineered German holocaust that the perpetrators ofthis current
    extermination of their “inferiors” as manifested in the millions of killed and
    displaced Palestinians, is somehow because the killers are the potential victims.

    That’s how they work. Manipulate history and pound the manipulated message
    home via propaganda. That simple – as long as you have a complicit media and
    engorging codependent governments. Behold the birth of the Zionist
    parasite called Israel. A perfect example of the sick fruits of eugenically driven,
    ravenous psychotic behavior,

    When people wake up to that mechanism blood will run hot and heavy and they’ll
    get their due. They always have and always will.

    Evil dies from its own corrupted aberration. As in the human body, the protective
    immune system of the Universe
    will eventually disable and recycle these invaders.

    01gleaqaci

    The Interdimensional Connection

    In a Universe of boundless life and energy we know entities of all types exist, which
    even so-called modern scientists affirm. Dimensions abound beyond ours and
    they’re here and interacting with our world.

    This reality must play heavily into our personal understanding of our
    interdimensional cosmos. We’re a world under siege, and we need to know our
    enemies as well as our friends. That such forces of darkness can mount such a
    profoundly coordinated attack on a planet of mainly meek, loving inhabitants reeks
    of opportunity for an aggressive force. I don’t know exactly what’s going on but I
    hope this helps present the case for what we’re potentially up against.

    Inter-dimensional war.



    I would be remiss without pointing out these otherworldly influences on our three
    dimensional experience. There is much more than meets the physical eye as we
    well know. People are driven by many influences, and spiritual ones
    are the most profound. Religions dutifully categorize such concepts as good and
    bad influences, while metaphysics dissects these various aspects with intrigue.
    Psychic, transcendental and after death phenomena also abound.

    So please don’t tell me there’s nothing more than this observable world.

    loveunitydance01

    The Antidote – Disengage and Live in Truth and Love



    Never give in mentally or spiritually to this onslaught. While we need to stay active
    in exposing their perfidy, we cannot be part of their ensnaring mindset.

    That’s why turning off all forms of mainstream media is so important. That’s why
    immersion in positive influences, nature, and loving people to counter these types
    of realities is so important.

    Anyone in their right mind knows this kind of plan cannot succeed in the long run.
    We happen to be at a time in history where these negative, barbaric influences are
    peaking with the acceleration of hijacked technologies.

    This too shall pass. But we should be vigilant and prepare as best we can, without
    fear. It’s a time to grow in consciousness and communication with each other so we
    can share our combined knowledge, insights and loving support.

    Therein is life, one day at a time. As it always is.

    Much love, Zen


    Read more: Eugenics, Depopulation and the Elite Mindset


    http://www.zengardner.com/eugenics-p...on-sanctified/


    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...298#post879298
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    Quote Posted by Aryslan (here)
    I'm pretty shocked at some of the responses to this thread. I'm all for looking at things from a different angle, but no matter which angle I look at it from, I come to the conclusion that these stones were erected by Eugenicists.
    I'm equally as shocked to your dismissal of these stones as having a good message, and being erected by somebody who isn't a eugenicist.

    I understand why you feel this way, but I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss this possibility when there isn't any huge evidence concerning the stones' maker.
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    Quote Posted by Sidney (here)
    Let's face it. We have the Vatican spewing that birth control is going against god. And then the guide stones stating otherwise, and here's this old fart holding the holy bible, stating "I know who i did it but I'm not telling, nanny nanny booboo. Its a dog and pony show.

    Does this thing sit on a ley line? What purpose does this thing serve, that nobody would think of in a million years.

    Me thinks this thing is hiding something totally u related.
    Hidden in plain sight. But what?
    This forum has many remote Viewers, maybe they should RV what is in the vault that is below it.

    The tablet also says a time capsule is placed six feet below it, though the dates of placement and when it should be opened are left blank.



    And what does the writing styles or histories of these old nations have in common
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    Quote Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
    too quick to dismiss
    What makes you think I'm quick to dismiss it? I've known of the stones for almost a decade, and looked closely at each one of their "commandments". I have come to the conclusion that they were set in place by people with an agenda.
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    Hmmm...soooo..are there any others reading this within shouting distance of Elberton?

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    I agree with Delight, I think everything the stone states is worth listening to. I certainly don't advocate any kind of population reduction but that's not to say that having 500m wouldn't be far more beneficial for us, the planet and everything on it. Everything else mentioned has undeniable merits.

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    Default Re: The Georgia Guidestones have been updated w/ 2014

    It. Would seem, the date thing is put there to put fear to the forefront.
    Let's just say that there is an apocalypse coming, but we don't know when, and we want the survivors or newcomers to use these stones as a guide. And to know what year shtf .

    Let's just say, that someone wants to fool everyone into believing the end is near, they would in fact do something like this.

    Everything is so convoluted anymore its not even funny.

    I would think the guy who claims to know who did this is the one who should be afraid at this point. One of him and 8 billion of us. lol
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