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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Ok, I googled Russia Rocket tests and this image from

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astro..._from_iss.html

    was interesting



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    The International Space Station silently orbits the Earth, black of space above, blue of ocean below. An astronaut floats in the cupola, a dome of glass and steel that faces the planet underneath, smiling to himself as he takes one photo after another of our home world. What he doesn’t know is that a Russian missile is about to make his life very interesting.


    Suddenly, a flash of light: Out of one eye, he catches motion, quickly turns, and to his astonishment sees an expanding cloud of white vapor in the far distance. He grabs a camera with a telephoto and starts snapping. What could this be? he thinks. A launch of some kind? He downloads the shot and innocently tweets it, not knowing what will happen next …

    This is not a deleted scene from Gravity. By coincidence it reads very much like the story from the movie, but it’s real.

    On Thursday, American astronaut Mike Hopkins tweeted that he saw something weird in the sky and posted a somewhat shaky image of it.* A few hours later Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano posted a sharper shot, the one shown above. The cloud of light is obvious; you can see the curve of the Earth below, a few stars in the sky, and the thin green line caused by airglow, a chemical process that causes air molecules to glow faintly at night.

    I knew right away this phenomenon was from a rocket, possibly a fuel dump from a second stage, and went online for info. At first, I found no mention of a rocket launch at that time.

    However, Edit Koczó on Twitter (UPDATE: She got her info via ISS101) posted a link to an article from the Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces website, a site that gives the public and politicians information on Russian weapons information. The article claimed a Topol missile had been launched at 13:39 UTC. Russia Today also has an article about it.

    This matches. The missile has three stages (like the old Saturn V rockets that took humans to the Moon), and what the astronauts saw may have been a fuel dump from the second stage or the last of the fuel leaking away after the booster phase was complete. In space, the cloud would expand more or less freely, moving rapidly as it traveled along with the booster in its path. In the photo, you can see a slight streaking to the cloud, most likely due to motion. [UPDATE: Matthew Greene on Twitter told me the Topol missile uses solid fuel as propellent (he is correct), so it cannot have been a dump that the astronauts saw. I'm not sure now what caused the cloud, but it's clearly associated with the missile itself. I'll continue to investigate.]

    To clinch this, Parmitano also tweeted a picture of the launch itself, or at least the vapor trail from the missile as it went up:


    Quote find myself conflicted; the image is lovely, but then, that’s an intercontinental ballistic missile you’re seeing there. Yikes. I’ll note that as far as I can tell, the arc of the missile was much lower than the orbit of the space station, and the astronauts were in no danger from this launch. [UPDATE (Oct. 16, 2013 at 16:30 UTC): My friend and space historian James Oberg has informed me that it's entirely possible the missile got as high or even higher than the ISS; earlier tests have apparently used trajectories that are steep, taking the missile up very high. Wow.]



    Still, this isn’t the first time such a launch has caused a fracas. In 2009 a similar launch from Russian created quite a light show when it got into space. It was spinning, and spewed out fuel in a gigantic spiral, like a lawn sprinkler, which lit up and totally freaked people in Norway <snip>
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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    And if anyone reading this is still skeptical, any spacefaring ETs out certainly there don't need to accompany (tag along behind) any orbital body. If they have advanced technology -- and they all do, or they'd not be out there -- they can travel absolutely anywhere they want to, at any time.
    I'm definitely with you, however, I thought that I'd provide a somewhat sensical explanation as food for thought:
    • Perhaps advanced ET vehicles would travel in a formation to depict a Universal symbol? Perhaps a sign of peace?
    • Perhaps they purposely want to travel at a slow rate so people can have ample time to observe them, to discuss with one another about the arrival and intent of said ET craft, and to prepare accordingly?

    No matter how crazy something sounds, I still think it is wise to keep an open mind to most information, regardless of past predicted events that have not come into fruition.

    Even if a piece of information has a sliver of truth, it is worth a goldmine.
    "Rather than love, than fame, than money, give me truth."
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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    And if anyone reading this is still skeptical, any spacefaring ETs out certainly there don't need to accompany (tag along behind) any orbital body. If they have advanced technology -- and they all do, or they'd not be out there -- they can travel absolutely anywhere they want to, at any time.
    I suspect that not all spacefaring ETs have the same level of advanced technology available.
    And I expect that among spacefaring ETs, there are many levels of consciousness, abilities and many agendas.
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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Is that ... the Death Star?!

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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Just in case this isn't already posted somewhere ... this is currently plastered on CNN home page:

    Seems we were buzzed big time?

    Happened last month but story just released yesterday.

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    Giant Asteroid zips by Earth

    It's about the size of 4 football fields

    One of the most dangerous asteroids on record zipped close by Earth last month. Early reports said that there's a chance it could strike our planet in less than 20 years, prompting NASA to issue a reality check.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/18/tech/a...html?hpt=hp_t1
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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    While still checking in on the comments for this Duff piece, I saw this link referred to:

    http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/colo...s14oct13.shtml

    where a writer (see his other articles and supposed past here)

    http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/index.shtml

    writes that the colorado floods adversely affected the underground bases in the area, with no evidence I can see other than 'intuition' and refers to positive 'higher dimensional beings' involved.

    Interesting enough I thought I would throw it in here as this article and thread is quite speculative in nature.

    Quote The Sept. 2013 Colorado Floods May Have Served a Higher Purpose

    By Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone
    http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/colo...s14oct13.shtml
    October 14, 2013

    The Sept. 2013 Colorado Floods May Have Served a Higher Purpose by ZS Livingstone (Oct. 14, 2013)

    The flooding (September 2013) of the Colorado deep underground military bases prevented the bombing of Syria. Some powerful higher dimensional beings intervened. Twelve inches of rain in four hours and a week of more heavy rain in an area known for its dryness is far beyond the abilities of the weather manipulators in the Pentagon. Also the Pentagon was not planning to flood its redoubt in the Rockies. Intuition states 92% was flooded, including most of the underground facilities under the Denver International Airport. Billions in damage and years to rebuild.

    As this flood stopped World War III, it can be compared to the Kamikaze Winds which sank Kublai Khan's invasion fleets off the coast of Japan and the gales which sank half of the Spanish Armada off the coasts of England and Scotland.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze_(typhoon)

    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/spanish_armada.htm

    The rumour is that underground bases extend from Cheyenne Mountain near Colorado Springs to Laramie Wyoming. The rains hit the mountains hardest west of Boulder, Colorado. Heavy earth moving equipment was seen moving towards the canyons above Boulder as the rains started. The man who saw the equipment said he had never seen such designs before and he is a machinist. Someone was worried.

    I do not believe anyone was drowned underground. They had enough time to evacuate. The vertical column of water in the elevator shafts could be one to two miles deep. Access to the underground equipment would have to be by bathysphere. None of the electronics could have taken the pressure. It will take years to clean up.

    It is likely the deep bases near Washington DC were damaged by the mysterious earthquake of two years ago. The politicians and generals do not have two of their fall back posts.

    Canada lost its redoubt under Banff, Canmore and Kananaskis Alberta a month earlier with the Calgary floods. Again, unnaturally heavy rain fell in a small area in a short time. These bases are far smaller than Colorado's. Toronto later flooded as well.

    With the Atlantic hurricane season a dud and the earthquake machines not working, the idiots in charge of mayhem are now trying to create an economic crisis. There will be another intervention of some nature. I have no idea what that intervention will be.

    Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone

    More from ZS Livingstone
    http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/index.shtml


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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Quote Posted by Calz (here)
    Just in case this isn't already posted somewhere ... this is currently plastered on CNN home page:

    Seems we were buzzed big time?

    Happened last month but story just released yesterday.

    ____________________________


    Giant Asteroid zips by Earth

    It's about the size of 4 football fields

    One of the most dangerous asteroids on record zipped close by Earth last month. Early reports said that there's a chance it could strike our planet in less than 20 years, prompting NASA to issue a reality check.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/18/tech/a...html?hpt=hp_t1
    Thanks for this Calz - it only leaves me wondering that if it had been a threat, would they have told us in advance? Remember the one that narrowly missed us several years ago, and clearly visible with a smoky tail as it skimmed through the atmosphere?(which is pretty durn close!!!) Both were "declared" after the fact

    Great find, too Mountain Jim! Very interesting indeed!
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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Numerous situations which may be related are beginning to manifest; something in our near future is going down for sure! - stay tuned here:

    http://www.infowars.com/

    (... and remember to take it with that proverbial grain of salt )

    Likewise, the Veterans Today site which is adding related articles (read between the lines ), almost daily.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/
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    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/11...a-ii-softkill/


    Some more answers- dear oh dear oh dear?

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    Default Re: What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

    Video of what I have been told is Wormwood galaxy. Shot in my backyard this afternoon.



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