Will Putin Save Us?

[giovonni]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
For what its worth,,,,,The Simon Parkes Kerry Cassidy Interview, On ETs Influencing World Leaders:
At the 27:45 mark, Parkers claims that many top nations and their leaders are being contacted and assisted by different ET groups, e.g. Putin is meeting with one group, Obama is meeting with another group, as are Chinese, Iranian and other leaders. These leaders could all be considered ET contactees themselves.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=b4WQty5e7Cc

Yes, i post a thread on the interview here

The thing is that if they (these world leaders) are being assisted by these multiple ET groups, then why is the world tumbling ever so quickly into an abyss ...

Note i live in the hope that we (the world) are just on the cusp of the consciousness changing paradigm that was promised by the off world observers a few years back ?

[Cidersomerset]

Russian Foreign Minister issues blistering attack on US and NATO

new Monday 29th September 2014 at 11:31 By david-icke

short vid on link....

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-fm-giv...175348984.html





‘The Russian foreign minister issued a blistering attack on the West and NATO on
Saturday, accusing them of being unable to change their Cold War “genetic code”
and saying the United States must abandon its claims to “eternal uniqueness.”

Sergey Lavrov’s assault appeared to be an extension of the increasingly anti-Western
stance of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is riding a wave of popularity at home
with his neo-nationalist rhetoric and policies.’

Read more: Russian Foreign Minister issues blistering attack on US and NATO





http://news.yahoo.com/russian-fm-giv...175348984.html

[giovonni]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Russian Foreign Minister issues blistering attack on US and NATO

new Monday 29th September 2014 at 11:31 By david-icke

short vid on link....

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-fm-giv...175348984.html





‘The Russian foreign minister issued a blistering attack on the West and NATO on
Saturday, accusing them of being unable to change their Cold War “genetic code”
and saying the United States must abandon its claims to “eternal uniqueness.”

Sergey Lavrov’s assault appeared to be an extension of the increasingly anti-Western
stance of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is riding a wave of popularity at home
with his neo-nationalist rhetoric and policies.’

Read more: Russian Foreign Minister issues blistering attack on US and NATO


http://news.yahoo.com/russian-fm-giv...175348984.html

Yes ... But he also called for this as well ...

Posted by giovonni (here)


Russia's foreign minister calls for 'reset 2.0' in relations with US

[giovonni]

And from that post ...

i will take my leave here and allow who ever else wants to hash this all out ... To it.

Enough said from me ...

[Snowflower]

The problem is a world under the control of psychopaths. People who have not learned about exactly what psychopathy is, misinterpret this statement to think that I am saying that the world is under the control of "crazy people." No, not at all!

A psychopath is not psychotic. The words are similar but mean very different things.

A psychopath is not insane, does not have a mental illness, and does not suffer from something curable. There are only two characteristics they ALL have: total lack of conscience and total lack of empathy.

All of this preamble is my way of beginning my response in this thread to say that many, many, many times in history, the people have looked to a new leader who will "make everything all right," only to discover themselves living under the same yoke by a different name.

Is Putin psychopathic? I don't know, but it certainly seems more likely than not. I cannot imagine a world saved by Putin.

But, I can imagine a world saved by the people of Russia who have endured generations of suffering under the yoke of psychopathic leaders.

[Operator]

Posted by christian (here)
I thought after all these years of conspiracy research and honing discernment it's as clear as day—we can only save ourselves. It's a grassroots movement, it's the empowerment of the individual.

When I look at so-called world leaders, there are some simple litmus tests. For example, is there a focus on people becoming more self-responsible? Is educating people about the creation of money a central focus? Can't see either in Putin's Russia. Though they do expose some Western lies here and there—but only when it fits their agenda, it seems...

Sorry, haven't watched the video, but the title makes me think, "My focus is not on any of that—Russia, Babylon, Jesuits, Knights Templars—I just wanna live and inspire people to live." I don't wanna spend my time pondering concepts such as Russia against Jesuitism. In terms of practical relevance, there's just not much, if anything, that I get out of this. Could be that I'm just too dull though...

I think it's like sailing a boat. You do the sailing but you need wind to move ...
Russia may currently provide the best wind (they avoided WW III because it would not serve their interest). But if winds become too
strong they develop into a storm ... In my opinion there is no absolute good and evil, just agendas ... use them like the wind.

[KiwiElf]

How about a world saved by the people of the world? (Somehow, I don't think some "knight in shining armour" is about to come along and do it for us - (start the ball rolling, maybe ) and I'd be suspicious if they did :/) It's up to each and every one of us collectively. The governments we all have today are EXACTLY a reflection of what we believe them to be. Change the belief, take action, change the outcome.. (and it's always been that way!) .

"A resolution to avoid an evil is seldom framed till the evil is so far advanced as to make avoidance impossible" - Thomas Hardy

I believe we are almost (not quite at) that point

[161803398]

And your betting on that ...

No one asked me to make a bet....but Edgar Cayce is interesting.

Cayce did talk about most of Japan sinking into the Ocean and conflict arising in Libya, Syria and the Persian Gulf....I believe in the context of Armageddon.

Now, I don't believe in Armageddon...I always thought John Cleese and Michael Palin should go to Megiddo and stage a battle between Jesus and the anti-Christ just to get it over with.

I thought the crazy politicians were treating the Bible like a recipe book....that used to be a joke....

Now where did I hear this: (supposedly spoken by one of the real rulers of the Planet {alien? -- who knows anymore} "This is the planet of Armageddon"....hmmm, maybe it is a recipe.

Did I incarnate in the right place? Recall, please....I am much too skinny for this....Russians have bigger bones and more muscle, I think....might save them.

[Joe Akulis]

That dictator with the 83% approval ratings at home? The dictator who travels to former soviet bloc nations and gets parades thrown for him?

Sounds like a really terrible guy. But, I guess we can always say the polls where that approval rating was generated must be propaganda. Anyone who says he's doing good things, it's just propaganda.

[161803398]

Problem in North America is that people don't know how to distinguish between Batman and reality. The politicians are relying on that sad fact.

....and, we have been taught to salivate on mention of the word "dictator".

[wnlight]

giovonni, About the Leuren Moret video, perhaps you are right to tell me to skip to the better parts. However, she lost all credibility with me while blabbing on about Berkley. Spewing obvious (to me) untruths unrelated to the video title. I must admit a bias, that I was not disposed to accept that Putin would/could help us much.

[syrwong]

It is true that humanity has to self-resurrect, but the emmergence of a powerful leader to fight against the evils and parasites does not contradict this. Quite often, in fact almost all the times a powerful leader who has the fervent support of the people is the materialization of the wishes of the people, the group consciousness. This has been the way a drastic change of the fate of a nation comes about. Heros come into being when the historic circumstances cry for them. Now we need not change just the fate of a nation, but the fate of all nations, all peoples and the world.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

any leader in this position is vulnerable to the corruption brought by power.
the fact of being a savior is the first step toward being the antichrist.

i think people should save themselves!!!!
leave behind a living will and fight to your dying breath

hold YOUR torch high -- don't follow -- LEAD

don't trust the princes of this world...

Obammy n Pooter are just two of the 4 horsemen unless they change their ways sad sad

p.s. can someone talented here draw us a cartoon of Obama and Putin struggling to spin the same globe? seems appropriate.

and the thingy that holds the globe should be oil/gas pipelines.
and the world supported by an offshore oil rig. instead of turtles.

[Milneman]

I'm attending a Jesuit college.

*waits for the pin to drop*

[Wyrmspleen]

what happened?

[transiten]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by transiten (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by 161803398 (here)
“Russia will become beacons of hope for the world.” Edgar Cayce

In Russia there comes the hope of the world, not as that sometimes termed of the communistic, or Bolshevik, no; but freedom, freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man! The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallised, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world."
(Edgar Cayce, 1944, No. 3976-29)

And your betting on that ...

PS ~ i will come clean here, i don't buy into any old world ideologies,
or those oligarchy systems and leaders that still operate within them.

Well if that's so it's not because of Putins regime but because of the awakening of the pple. Interesting thing is that a Russian TVstation has shown the documentary with David Wilcock about the Illuminati etc....

Don't quite understand your comments ... and who you are addressing here... Sorry.

I'm adressing Edgar Cacey and 161803398; if the light is coming from Russia it will be from awakened citizens not Putins regime...

[Bill Ryan]

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* Bill dives in the melée *



Well, Putin did propose and champion the Ukraine ceasefire talks in Minsk on 5 Sept (which were pretty successful), and since then Russian aid convoys have been arriving in the affected area. The Ukraine conflict was being stoked like a fire, but now it's disappeared off the CNN front pages. Nothing there any more (right now) that can be exploited...

And, re Syria, his perfectly timed and presented New York Times article may have saved a major war there this time last year. That was also being stoked heavily (as it is again, now...)

What I see is that Putin either is pro-Russia, or anti at least one version of the proposed NWO. He doesn't look all that much like anyone's puppet to me.

If it's a left-hand-right-hand Punch-and-Judy show, with someone telling Putin what to do and say, it's being done extraordinarily well. I would suggest that instead, even if Putin is pro-NWO in some form, there are different factions wrestling for control... which may be a good thing for us all.

[giovonni]

Fair enough Bill ...

i tend to subscribe (and believe) its all being (terribly) orchestrated by those elusive PTB kind ...

One has to admit Putin has kind of served his countrymen, but perhaps himself even more ...

[avid]

Putin's past is horrendous, probably under severe mind-control. Is it possible one can overcome such tortures? A pawn or a knight? I shall never forget the diaries of the much-tortured MI6 victim Richard Tomlinson. Hopefully, Putin has regained his self-control and is no longer a 'pawn'.

1980: Russian Monastery Compound, Ein Kerem, Jerusalem.

Vladimir Putin and the other KGB Royal Arch Freemasons, stayed within this high-security compound. It was run as a nunnery (it still is today) but is generally known by the Russian Orthodox church to be a 'spy-centre', and is currently being run by an ex-FSB Head.

Much more on Putin in the above link..... please read!!!

It also goes on to state that a current BBC political celebrity Andrew Marr was also involved.....

[Milneman]

post script to what Bill said, and I agree mostly:

just keep in mind that Punch and Judy are not the only puppets with large hands firmly up their asses.