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    Quote The Differences Between A Sociopath And A Narcissist
    by Learus Ohnine

    A Narcissist will let you know up front what they’re about. They will tell you grandiose stories of themselves of either their accomplishments (real or fake) or of their associations with important people (real or fake). They generally do not tell these stories for any other gain than to hear praises. They have an unquenchable desire to be admired, worshiped, and adulated with no real gain from those that respond to them in this way other than to feed their own ego. They need to be the center of attention at all times in any social gathering.

    A Sociopath will NOT let you know up front what they are about, because they wear a mask to hide their true identity. They will tell you grandiose stories of themselves of either their accomplishments (real or fake, but mostly fake) or of their associations with important people (real or fake, but mostly fake). They generally tell these stories to appear as a “good person” to gain trust and as a cover-up for their ulterior motives. They have the same unquenchable desires as the Narcissist as a result of the power and control they gain over their victims. They do not care to be the center of attention at all times in any social gathering unless doing so promises to earn them more unsuspecting victims.
    Full article:

    http://learus.wordpress.com/2013/03/...-a-narcissist/


    Quote A Field Guide to the Narcissist
    with Mary Hynes

    We all know one. Maybe you are one. If you are, you probably don't know it. Mary Hynes brings us tales of survival: working with - and living with - the narcissist.
    Narcissus was an amateur. He may have fallen in love with his own reflection, but ours is an age of rampant self absorption: the selfies, the status updates, the self-esteem movement.

    Trevor Cole tells us what it's like to grow up with a father who believes Everything Is About Him. Who could forget the summer of 1969? That's when dad declared his was a family of nudists - even when company came over.

    Trevor is a writer and novelist. His first novel, Norman Bray, In the Performance of his Life, was inspired by his father's narcissistic personality. The book was a finalist for a Governor General's Award. Below, Trevor's dad, Bill Cole, talks about himself making a living as a stage actor.
    Quote See how you rank on the narcissism scale. Take the Narcissistic Personality Inventory. It's 40 questions long and only takes a few minutes. Remember, the average person's score is 15.5 and reality TV stars score about 19.5 - just a notch under imprisoned sociopaths...
    Listen to the one hour radio show:

    http://www.cbc.ca/tapestry/popupaudi...Ids=2532019559

    Full article:

    http://www.cbc.ca/tapestry/episode/2...he-narcissist/


    Take the test!

    I dare you to share your results! My total: 17 (explains a lot lol!)

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    i scored a 4. i must be a lost soul with no faith in myself........drats!
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    I scored a 5. Is that good? Haha

    I would have chosen answer C for most of those....

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    lolol According to my test results (which I was able to recover after my powerful narcissism crashed my laptop), I'm much less narcissistic than I thought I was. Whew! Relieved to know I'll never have my own 'reality' show!

    I think a full blown narcissist would probably 'manipulate' their own results depending on how they'd want to come off, as most of the statements/choices clearly pointed in one direction or the other. Regardless, it was pretty interesting (probably because the questions were all about me...haha!).

    p.s. I scored a 9.
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    Quote Posted by crosby (here)
    i scored a 4. i must be a lost soul with no faith in myself........drats!
    crosby
    No, I don't think so... although, I do think there's some connection here with self-esteem and confidence. Btw, my boyfriend 'scored' a 2. I've often wondered how he can stand living with me.

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    Quote Posted by cursichella1 (here)
    lolol According to my test results (which I was able to recover after my powerful narcissism crashed my laptop), I'm much less narcissistic than I thought I was. Whew! Relieved to know I'll never have my own 'reality' show!

    I think a full blown narcissist would probably 'manipulate' their own results depending on how they'd want to come off, as most of the statements/choices clearly pointed in one direction or the other. Regardless, it was pretty interesting (probably because the questions were all about me...haha!).

    p.s. I scored a 9.
    It's possible...

    Quote A Narcissist will let you know up front what they’re about.
    I could have lied to myself on the test. If my results had been higher, would I have even started this thread?...

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    14, but too many questions that are too ambiguous.
    I haven't done much to warrant someone writing my biography and I don't like prying eyes but, hey, I would like to think I might do something biography worthy! ;-)
    I've never liked working / taking orders from other people and I prefer being in control of my own life but that doesn't mean I like giving orders.
    Everyone likes to get compliments.
    The world would be a better place if I was in charge but that still scares the crap out of me.
    I will try to talk my way out of anything but will happily accept the consequences if I can't!
    I'm not too concerned with success but would love to have a little more.
    We are ALL special.
    I could go on with these...

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    7, Virgo with a Leo Moon so figure that one out.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Quote Posted by cursichella1 (here)
    lolol According to my test results (which I was able to recover after my powerful narcissism crashed my laptop), I'm much less narcissistic than I thought I was. Whew! Relieved to know I'll never have my own 'reality' show!

    I think a full blown narcissist would probably 'manipulate' their own results depending on how they'd want to come off, as most of the statements/choices clearly pointed in one direction or the other. Regardless, it was pretty interesting (probably because the questions were all about me...haha!).

    p.s. I scored a 9.
    It's possible...

    Quote A Narcissist will let you know up front what they’re about.
    I could have lied to myself on the test. If my results had been higher, would I have even started this thread?...
    You couldn't have scored much higher than you did! Though I have known some narcissists that like to come off as being humble, "regular" people, temporarily, of course, but they would then score low if it suited them for the moment.
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    7, Virgo with a Leo Moon so figure that one out.
    Leo Moon=Outgoing Talk Show Host;
    with Virgo Sun=Organized, detail oriented, outgoing Talk Show Host;
    with 7 on the 'Narcissism Scale'=hardworking Investigative reporter. Leslie Stahl, Ben Swann & Sean Stone come to mind...
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    As a highly sensitive empath, I have picked up on...

    Much accusations going on of other people being "narcissists" for reasons that are just, human...

    To me, narcissism means the opposite of empathy and caring about others...it's about putting others down to feel better about themselves...so a deeply caring and empathic person cannot be "a narcissist"...but, how I see it is that every person with an ego can have narcissistic moments, it's just that some people have it a lot more strongly and more often, than others.

    Some common examples of misconceptions:

    Someone could have 200 photos up of themselves on face book, and another can have 5...the person who has 5 thinks that anyone who has over 50 photos is a narcissist...this shows their lack of empathy...the person who has 200 rarely puts any one down and has lots of empathy for other people...unlike the one who has only 5 photos up, who often talks badly about others, usually in passive ways...

    People trying to overcome social anxiety by exposing themselves by sharing and communicating with others, is not narcissism, it is simply them trying to grow, rise above their own fears, and reach out to and connect with others.

    People sharing their own story, is not necessarily narcissism (though it can be - just about any action could have that reason behind it), it may be a gentle and indirect way to try to help others, and maybe themselves, too, helping yourself by not putting others down is not narcissism, it's self love.

    People can confuse a true self love with narcissism - they are very different.

    Social anxiety (and people who can be very introspective, or have Asperger's Syndrome) can be confused with narcissism, they are very different at what is at the core of it (the one who has had social anxiety can be the one who has been bullied at school by those who had strong narcissistic tendencies, to me, narcissism is cruelty).

    So, if you are mostly an empathic, caring and kind person, you are not a "narcissist" however it may seem to some, and however some want to see you and make you seem!
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    Well said, Amethyst.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Well said, Amethyst.
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    I'll let you poor folks waste your time taking tests. I'm above all that.




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    I scored a 14.

    Success is defined differently than society. I’d prefer unique to special, again different outlook and life goals to main stream.

    I do not want authority over anyone nor anyone over me.

    Co-operative effort is my preference over leader vs. take orders.


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    I'll let you poor folks waste your time taking tests. I'm above all that.



    Thank you Orph....I was below that...he he!
    ........like 'crosby' I scored 4 .


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    Thank you Orph....I was below that...he he!
    ........like 'crosby' I scored 4 .


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    Quote Posted by Amethyst (here)
    As a highly sensitive empath, I have picked up on...

    Much accusations going on of other people being "narcissists" for reasons that are just, human...

    To me, narcissism means the opposite of empathy and caring about others...it's about putting others down to feel better about themselves...so a deeply caring and empathic person cannot be "a narcissist"...but, how I see it is that every person with an ego can have narcissistic moments, it's just that some people have it a lot more strongly and more often, than others.

    Some common examples of misconceptions:

    Someone could have 200 photos up of themselves on face book, and another can have 5...the person who has 5 thinks that anyone who has over 50 photos is a narcissist...this shows their lack of empathy...the person who has 200 rarely puts any one down and has lots of empathy for other people...unlike the one who has only 5 photos up, who often talks badly about others, usually in passive ways...

    People trying to overcome social anxiety by exposing themselves by sharing and communicating with others, is not narcissism, it is simply them trying to grow, rise above their own fears, and reach out to and connect with others.

    People sharing their own story, is not necessarily narcissism (though it can be - just about any action could have that reason behind it), it may be a gentle and indirect way to try to help others, and maybe themselves, too, helping yourself by not putting others down is not narcissism, it's self love.

    People can confuse a true self love with narcissism - they are very different.

    Social anxiety (and people who can be very introspective, or have Asperger's Syndrome) can be confused with narcissism, they are very different at what is at the core of it (the one who has had social anxiety can be the one who has been bullied at school by those who had strong narcissistic tendencies, to me, narcissism is cruelty).

    So, if you are mostly an empathic, caring and kind person, you are not a "narcissist" however it may seem to some, and however some want to see you and make you seem!
    I think narcissm is an inner emptiness. I think it is is being locked out of one's inner power and being caught on the surface.

    The questions did not really seem to do anything but show how power is seen as either/or. Leader/follower, rule the world/be afraid to do that. It is also open to interpretation. I don't want to be admired and do get embarrassed by compliments but I think I am special and want to contribute something unique.I am not an order giver or taker. The questions were not really "mine" but I scored a 10.

    Sorry Pris if this is too heavy:

    IMO the emptiness of one's own connection to an inner nourishing power source demands being fed by the external feedback. A hollow sense and non-sustaining ability to self soothe needs constant supply of attention.

    In a world that has become lost in the mirror of the superficial material, fewer children are supported in developing that really solid inner core that needs no reflection to maintain. IMO narcissism is a character condition that other narcissists train.

    My research into narcissism came because my mother was fully self absorbed and had such need of attention that she created drama, interpersonal conflict and personal illness to keep people tied to her. She may have been a sociopath? They seem like degrees of failure to thrive.

    By the definition here, Mom did say what she was about. The saying what one is about "I need you" is managed by allure, making you feel alternately appreciated and devalued, maintaining a kind of emotional chaos around her, setting people against one another and one other thing. The ability to spin "reality" and spin others.

    IMO a narcissist/sociopath believes their spin on reality. They are in my observation not lying (deliberate deceit knowing one is lying) but are living a lie. IMO they are compartmentalized in their inner processing. It is really hard to comprehend. It makes one feel crazy in the relationship. The seeming sincerity is hard to suss even if one is good at reading others. People living with extreme narcissists are in the spin.

    She was the kind of mother who was popular with my friends (but did not want me to have deep friendships), had a bleeding heart for social injustice (if it did not hurt her), was kind and caring and beautiful and spiritual and also manipulative, hostile, considered herself to be the center of the Universe and unwilling to allow anyone else to be themselves.

    My mother was tuned in to others and she could seem to be empathic and that was a actually how she reeled me in when I was in need of comfort. Maybe she did feel with others? People really liked her and found her a beautiful person until a betrayal messed it up. Mom was the one who was suffering most. A narcissist suffers.

    My observation of the subject came form the painful experience of first admiring my mother, then being disillusioned, then hating her, then realizing she was all twisted up by her own inner world that was a real HELL.

    I think this is a real issue and important especially not to keep making this condition worse. As I said, I believe narcissists create the condition in others under their "care". IMO the whole of modern institutions is geared to POWER OVER. Power within is what we might have as humans.

    The questions were seeming to lend to either/or (either a leader OR follower as example) IMO a narcissist is very intelligent, very creative and has much to offer. It may be that early on, a beautiful creative personality and the gifts get feedback so the person only feels loved by her offerings. A glossy facade is established as valuable.

    IMO narcissm gets passed on because the child is used by their "superiors" and being open and vulnerable is punished. I am not sure that I think the test was a good one to identify the real issue of the spectrum from mild healthy self esteem to all encompassing NEED to overpower others.
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by Amethyst (here)
    As a highly sensitive empath, I have picked up on...

    Much accusations going on of other people being "narcissists" for reasons that are just, human...

    To me, narcissism means the opposite of empathy and caring about others...it's about putting others down to feel better about themselves...so a deeply caring and empathic person cannot be "a narcissist"...but, how I see it is that every person with an ego can have narcissistic moments, it's just that some people have it a lot more strongly and more often, than others.

    Some common examples of misconceptions:

    Someone could have 200 photos up of themselves on face book, and another can have 5...the person who has 5 thinks that anyone who has over 50 photos is a narcissist...this shows their lack of empathy...the person who has 200 rarely puts any one down and has lots of empathy for other people...unlike the one who has only 5 photos up, who often talks badly about others, usually in passive ways...

    People trying to overcome social anxiety by exposing themselves by sharing and communicating with others, is not narcissism, it is simply them trying to grow, rise above their own fears, and reach out to and connect with others.

    People sharing their own story, is not necessarily narcissism (though it can be - just about any action could have that reason behind it), it may be a gentle and indirect way to try to help others, and maybe themselves, too, helping yourself by not putting others down is not narcissism, it's self love.

    People can confuse a true self love with narcissism - they are very different.

    Social anxiety (and people who can be very introspective, or have Asperger's Syndrome) can be confused with narcissism, they are very different at what is at the core of it (the one who has had social anxiety can be the one who has been bullied at school by those who had strong narcissistic tendencies, to me, narcissism is cruelty).

    So, if you are mostly an empathic, caring and kind person, you are not a "narcissist" however it may seem to some, and however some want to see you and make you seem!
    I think narcissm is an inner emptiness. I think it is is being locked out of one's inner power and being caught on the surface.

    The questions did not really seem to do anything but show how power is seen as either/or. Leader/follower, rule the world/be afraid to do that. It is also open to interpretation. I don't want to be admired and do get embarrassed by compliments but I think I am special and want to contribute something unique.I am not an order giver or taker. The questions were not really "mine" but I scored a 10.

    Sorry Pris if this is too heavy:

    IMO the emptiness of one's own connection to an inner nourishing power source demands being fed by the external feedback. A hollow sense and non-sustaining ability to self soothe needs constant supply of attention.

    In a world that has become lost in the mirror of the superficial material, fewer children are supported in developing that really solid inner core that needs no reflection to maintain. IMO narcissism is a character condition that other narcissists train.

    My research into narcissism came because my mother was fully self absorbed and had such need of attention that she created drama, interpersonal conflict and personal illness to keep people tied to her. She may have been a sociopath? They seem like degrees of failure to thrive.

    By the definition here, Mom did say what she was about. The saying what one is about "I need you" is managed by allure, making you feel alternately appreciated and devalued, maintaining a kind of emotional chaos around her, setting people against one another and one other thing. The ability to spin "reality" and spin others.

    IMO a narcissist/sociopath believes their spin on reality. They are in my observation not lying (deliberate deceit knowing one is lying) but are living a lie. IMO they are compartmentalized in their inner processing. It is really hard to comprehend. It makes one feel crazy in the relationship. The seeming sincerity is hard to suss even if one is good at reading others. People living with extreme narcissists are in the spin.

    She was the kind of mother who was popular with my friends (but did not want me to have deep friendships), had a bleeding heart for social injustice (if it did not hurt her), was kind and caring and beautiful and spiritual and also manipulative, hostile, considered herself to be the center of the Universe and unwilling to allow anyone else to be themselves.

    My mother was tuned in to others and she could seem to be empathic and that was a actually how she reeled me in when I was in need of comfort. Maybe she did feel with others? People really liked her and found her a beautiful person until a betrayal messed it up. Mom was the one who was suffering most. A narcissist suffers.

    My observation of the subject came form the painful experience of first admiring my mother, then being disillusioned, then hating her, then realizing she was all twisted up by her own inner world that was a real HELL.

    I think this is a real issue and important especially not to keep making this condition worse. As I said, I believe narcissists create the condition in others under their "care". IMO the whole of modern institutions is geared to POWER OVER. Power within is what we might have as humans.

    The questions were seeming to lend to either/or (either a leader OR follower as example) IMO a narcissist is very intelligent, very creative and has much to offer. It may be that early on, a beautiful creative personality and the gifts get feedback so the person only feels loved by her offerings. A glossy facade is established as valuable.

    IMO narcissm gets passed on because the child is used by their "superiors" and being open and vulnerable is punished. I am not sure that I think the test was a good one to identify the real issue of the spectrum from mild healthy self esteem to all encompassing NEED to overpower others.
    Everything can be abused...and everything can be done for good reasons with positive effects....(or just being innocent).

    and it's like, when a genuine homeless person on the street is effected by those fake ones, and so people are more suspicious of the real ones...

    I do believe that "narcissists" are human, too, and we all have aspects of it, but it's not who we are, and it's really not fitting to label some people as that, imo. I mean, it's just thrown around and people accusing others of having a serious disorder that is very stigmatized, and the name of which has this very negative energy attached to it, that they may not have.

    I wasn't bought up by a "narcissist" as far as I am aware (but was effected in both negative and positive ways, like we all are), but I have been bullied by a few with those strong hurtful to others in those ways traits, and this is partly how I learned about (some) of it...

    I also see that people being scared of "others will think that I have a big ego or am better than them so will want to hurt me" can get in the way of people loving themselves, shining in their own ways, and they feel like they have to hide, put themselves down, the playing small effect (which I have done, and many people have done, mostly women...but less so now as the times are changing).

    There is modesty and there is fake modesty, and I am pretty sure that most of us have done both!

    So, I see it that, we have all lost some connection, it's part of being human, we have all suffered, but yes, some more so than others and in different ways...

    To me, self love is so important...but there are people who do not love others to love themselves - in a clean way, and is not in a way that is like "I am great, she is great, but you are no good, and they are no good...the self love that also wants others to love themselves, but I must admit that at times I lack empathy with others lack of empathy and cruelty because I just don't get it.

    Being devalued can be a painful thing, we all need self esteem and to feel worthy, part of the human needs...some people will never see us as good enough, and true friends are people who believe in us (not as in agree with everything).

    We all have trust issues, and I've noticed, that because of my past, there can be something in a "good person" or thing (not as in perfect) that can suddenly trigger me because of it, the pain body...but even though I am very sensitive I do very much look inside myself...and ask myself why?...it happened today with a post on here that I felt a bit upset by...I felt better after I looked inside myself and found out why...and took responsibility for my part of it...and let go and accepted it...we don't always have to act on it before we look inside, thank goodness!

    This world needs a lot of healing...

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    Default Re: Are You A Narcissist?

    I appreciate your entire comment, Amethyst! In particular, I like what you said here:

    Quote Posted by Amethyst (here)

    Some common examples of misconceptions:

    Someone could have 200 photos up of themselves on face book, and another can have 5...the person who has 5 thinks that anyone who has over 50 photos is a narcissist...this shows their lack of empathy...the person who has 200 rarely puts any one down and has lots of empathy for other people...unlike the one who has only 5 photos up, who often talks badly about others, usually in passive ways...
    You said this very well -- it's about judgement. It's all very subjective, isn't it? It's surprising how often we judge others based on our own yardstick. So often, things are not as they appear on the surface.


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    I scored a 14.

    Success is defined differently than society. I’d prefer unique to special, again different outlook and life goals to main stream.

    I do not want authority over anyone nor anyone over me.

    Co-operative effort is my preference over leader vs. take orders.

    Thanks for sharing your whole chart, RunningDeer.

    Here's mine for those who may be interested:

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