Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

[Lettherebelight]

People make a point that because this Ebola strain is not airborne, then it's not that transmissible.

But smallpox (remember that one?) was not airborne either. Equally, it has practically the same transmission profile as smallpox. So although it is a huge plus that Ebola is not airborne, it doesn't necessarily mean it is difficult to catch. Any surface can be contaminated if touched by an infected patient's body fluids, including sweat from the fever.

Sorry if this has been already pointed out, it's getting to be a lengthy thread. I think its a case now of hoping for the best (ie. it just fizzles out), but being prepared for the worst (ie. get your healing arsenals stocked and loaded).

[Bob]

Mike Adams over at Natural News (Source) weighs in on his understandings about studies that concluded Ebola is possible to be transmitted by droplets in the air (citing cough/sneeze and also sputum)..

"There's no subtle way to say this, so I'll just state it outright: The U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has become a clear and present danger to the public health of all Americans. The agency's continued repeating of lies based on false assumptions is already contributing to a dangerous, casual attitude about Ebola transmission that could cause this outbreak to explode across the United States."

Mike goes on to say:

"Clearly this threat needs to be taken seriously, and all Americans deserve to hear the truth about Ebola's infection vectors. But instead of telling the truth about how Ebola is spreading, the CDC remains in a state of dangerous denial, falsely insisting the virus only spreads through "direct contact" even though virologist experts strongly disagree (and infections are clearly taking place that could not have happened through direct contact)."

Even the W.H.O. now openly contradicts the CDC, stating "The Ebola virus can also be transmitted indirectly, by contact with previously contaminated surfaces and objects." [6]

The W.H.O. also explains that "...wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual... could transmit the virus -- over a short distance -- to another nearby person. This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing..."

Despite these warnings, photos captured outside the apartment of Ebola "patient zero" Thomas Duncan show government officials walking in and out of an obviously contaminated apartment while wearing no protective gear whatsoever. The sidewalk where Duncan vomited was power-washed by people wearing no protective gear as well.

Such astonishing events put us all at risk of increased Ebola transmission, and the careless, casual attitude being witnessed right now is a direct result of the CDC knowingly lying to the public about Ebola transmission vectors.

Mike goes on to bring up documentation and some very sobering observations:

Here are the five dangerous -- even deadly -- assumptions still being made by the CDC, an agency that is clearly behaving in a way that threatens the health and safety of the American people:

Assumption #1) Ebola only spreads via "direct contact"

The CDC continues to dangerously assert that Ebola only spread through "direct contact." This false claim openly encourages health and government officials to avoid donning necessary isolation gear (such as full face respirators) when mingling near infected Ebola patients.

It also makes the idea of touching Ebola-contaminated surfaces (such as doorknobs, bed sheets, countertops and even vehicle door handles) seem perfectly safe. But virologists are now openly questioning this dangerous CDC assumption. As reported by the LA Times: [1]

...some also question the official assertion that Ebola cannot be transmitted through the air. In late 1989, virus researcher Charles L. Bailey supervised the government's response to an outbreak of Ebola among several dozen rhesus monkeys housed for research in Reston, Va., a suburb of Washington.

What Bailey learned from the episode informs his suspicion that the current strain of Ebola afflicting humans might be spread through tiny liquid droplets propelled into the air by coughing or sneezing. "We know for a fact that the virus occurs in sputum and no one has ever done a study [disproving that] coughing or sneezing is a viable means of transmitting," he said. Unqualified assurances that Ebola is not spread through the air, Bailey said, are "misleading."

Peters, whose CDC team studied cases from 27 households that emerged during a 1995 Ebola outbreak in Democratic Republic of Congo, said that while most could be attributed to contact with infected late-stage patients or their bodily fluids, "some" infections may have occurred via "aerosol transmission."

"Those monkeys were dying in a pattern that was certainly suggestive of coughing and sneezing -- some sort of aerosol movement," Bailey said. "They were dying and spreading it so quickly from cage to cage. We finally came to the conclusion that the best action was to euthanize them all."

Dr. Peters and Dr. Russell also warn against the dogma of the CDC, saying: [1]

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters. "We just don't have the data to exclude it..."

"Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here." - Dr. Philip K. Russell, an Ebola research virologist and former head of the U.S. Army's Medical Research and Development Command. "we're in the middle of the first experiment of multiple, serial passages of Ebola virus in man.... God knows what this virus is going to look like. I don't."

Go to Mike's page to read the rest of the Article..

Sources for this article include:
[1] http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-qu...

[2] http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/07/cnn-r...

[3] http://www.naturalnews.com/047119_ebola_pand...

[4] http://news.yahoo.com/male-ebola-survivors-t...

[5] http://www.naturalnews.com/047118_ebola_pand...

[6] http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/06...

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047165_eb...ic_health.html

[SilentFeathers]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DXn4_Ncb0jA

[SilentFeathers]

Here's a pandemic webinar from fema......

https://share.dhs.gov/p7b0mlqsepi/

FEMA Region II/ SIFMA
Pandemic Webinar I: Federal and Local Government Pandemic Planning
September 23, 2014 10:00-11:30am

[TargeT]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DXn4_Ncb0jA

Symptoms of Ebola include

Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
Severe headache
Muscle pain
Weakness
Diarrhea
Vomiting
Abdominal (stomach) pain
Unexplained hemorrhage (bleeding or bruising)


Yep, no sneezing or coughing there...

I've had a Hemorrhagic fever TWICE now (two strains of dengue, there are 6 here on the islands... 4 more to go and I'm immune for life!) you don't cough, you don't sneeze, you feel like CRAP and move as little as possible (sure brings the contagious fluid movement to a minimum).

I was in bed for 7 days the first time, probably didn't go more than 10 feet from my bed, 2nd time wasn't as bad but I was still moving like a 90 yr old after hip replacement surgery. Apparently Ebola is worse, so... even more limiting on late stage onset (which is when you can spread it).

Now again, if this actually mutates and becomes airborne there could be a real issue on our hands, or if like Dengue it becomes an insect spread disease, but it's not either.

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Here's a pandemic webinar from fema......

https://share.dhs.gov/p7b0mlqsepi/

FEMA Region II/ SIFMA
Pandemic Webinar I: Federal and Local Government Pandemic Planning
September 23, 2014 10:00-11:30am

pandemic
[pan-dem-ik]

Examples
Word Origin

adjective
1.
(of a disease) prevalent throughout an entire country, continent, or the whole world; epidemic over a large area.
2.
general; universal

this is no where near a pandemic, it may be what is desired but it's NOT right now, its a small amount of cases currently.

[Bob]

Feds to screen up to 150 people a day (Ken Jenkins Aviation crisis consultant, FOX)

5 international airports will be doing this upgraded step. The big thing being a new questionnaire to be filled out on arrival..

And UK says 750 people are being sent to West Africa to help out.

(multiple sources, satellite feed and internet)

[TargeT]

Posted by Bob (here)
Feds to screen up to 150 people a day (Ken Jenkins Aviation crisis consultant, FOX)

5 international airports will be doing this upgraded step. The big thing being a new questionnaire to be filled out on arrival..

And UK says 750 people are being sent to West Africa to help out.

(multiple sources, satellite feed and internet)

When I flew through Beijing a couple of years ago they had thermal scanners publicly set up (and a screen below them showing everyone's body temp who walked past), to me this seems like the best tactic to have a populace police itself as well as assist the already paid for control structure. (good for stopping the spread of what ever flu they were on the look out for at the time).

I wouldn't be surprised to see this being implemented as well.

[Bob]

Breaking news.. the second Texas person apparently having contact with Mr. Duncan (who died this morning), is now exhibiting the symptoms.. NO news yet on who that person is, if it was a family member, or one of the people in the Ambulance, or staff at the hospital. (live satellite feed to Fox - source)

update - hospital is saying they will have a news conference shortly.. News is saying they are being kept out of the loop for the moment, so no details able to be relayed, having to wait on what the hospital chooses to reveal.. possibly in the next hour or two, they will release an update from the hospital.

Update 2 - CDC's Frieden seems to contradict the statements made earlier by media, saying he simply doesn't know for sure what is happening, but he didn't think it was ebola and went to a next question.. his news conference is currently pre-empting any live statements by the Dallas hospital.

Update 3 - Zero Hedge seems to have some current information on the possible "case" - emphasis on the word possible as nobody seems to be talking - see http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...ms-cbs-reports for more data - "#BREAKING Patient at a Frisco Care Now clinic showing symptoms of possible Ebola. Claims contact with Thomas Duncan.
12:50 PM - 8 Oct 2014"



PHOTO: Firefighters set up an isolation tent inside an ambulance at the Frisco CareNow as a precaution. #ebola
12:55 PM - 8 Oct 2014[/CENTER]

OK a Dallas County's deputy sheriff is the one. Coming out of Dallas news. Did he grab Duncan, contact his spit, give him a hug, shake his hand, give him a kiss, sorry for the obtuse obviousness here but that is to look at what "close contact means". HOW then if this is the case, did he GET an exposure - from this so called "hard to catch" virus...

The Frisco Fire Chief weighs in - (not the Hospital yet) - says they have been training properly to deal with this. They wore protective clothing he says. They made contact with Care Now physicians, the Medical director was there too, and they felt it was important to transport to Texas Health Resources in Dallas where the patient is located. He says that this deputy ONLY had contact with FAMILY members and was present inside the apartment, but did NOT have contact with Mr. Duncan (perplexing discrepancy here...) The Texas Frisco Mayor says, "The Risk is Minimal we are being told", saying it repeatedly to the media during the news conference.

The Frisco Fire Chief says this is happening quickly so he is trying his best to get information but it is simply NOT forthcoming.

link: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/f...bola-symptoms/

[avid]

Officials at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital said Monday that their patient, Thomas Eric Duncan, is in critical condition and being treated with brincidofovir, an oral medicine developed by Chimerix Inc. So is he really dead now as also reported? Or another fake scenario, as initially no new drugs, then 'available' at death's door, and now some other desperate profiteering drug ploy. It's like looking into a bio-hazard lab in the real world now, for big Pharma profit and blackmail. Did this drug fail, as the PTB said no new stuff would be wasted on him. Did he have sickle-cell to complicate matters?

Bottom-line: we are being blackmailed into the big Pharma 'necessities' again. Refuse all untested vaccines. Drink colloidal silver solution, and get it made locally asap if you don't know how! I will help if I'm 'up north' asap! Don't worry - it's all fear-porn at the moment to affect the economies of the world, and divert attention from the ransacking of Syria and the middle east, and west Africa for globalistic resources ("We'll help you to get better if you let us in and run your natural resources, or sell them to us for a real deal..." "We will help you get well and make your local politicians look great - as saviours - for a price) Rotten to the core globalistic strategies, funnily enough, the US Bio-Weapons lab in Sierra Leone was recently closed down....., and specialised in the mutancy and probable leakage of hemorrhagic fevers, such as Ebola and Marburg.
The rip-off banksters and globalistic vultures are at heightened awareness at the moment - but SO ARE WE!!!

the Dr Niman 'flu-tracker site is here:
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/...hp?f=5&t=12561

[Bob]

Donating blood for Serum - Dr. Kent Brantly whom we heard about having come to Atlanta's Emory Hospital, earlier receiving zMapp and supportive care is donating more of his blood.

"A spokesman for Samaritan’s Purse on Wednesday said Brantly had been contacted by the Dallas hospital treating Duncan to see if he would also be willing to donate blood to him, should their blood types match. Brantly said he definitely would be willing to do so but never heard back after that.

“The assumption is they weren’t a match,” said Samaritan’s Purse spokesman Jeremy Blume. “He was never contacted again.”

What has been happening..

"Dr. Brantly, the first Westerner repatriated to the United States (Atlanta's Emory University Hospital) for treatment during the deadliest Ebola outbreak in history, received the blood of a young Ebola survivor he'd treated in Liberia, along with the experimental drug zMapp.

"Dr. Rick Sacra was treated with a serum made from Dr. Brantly's blood and the drug TKM-Ebola.

"Mukpo is receiving an experimental drug called brincidofovir. He will also receive some serum made from Dr. Brantly's blood."

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"Dr. Brantly was driving through Kansas City on Tuesday when he received a call from Angela Hewett, associate medical director of the biocontainment unit at The Nebraska Medical Center, where Dr Sacra was treated and where independent tv camerman Mr. Ashoka Mukpo currently is being treated. Remarkably, Dr. Brantly’s blood type matched Mr. Mukpo’s blood type, just as it had with Dr. Sacra.

"Dr. Brantly stopped at a facility in Kansas City to give his blood, which was then flown to Omaha.

“It’s not a likely scenario that he would again have the same blood type,” Hewett said in a statement released by the hospital. “We are incredibly grateful that that Dr. Brantly would take the time to do this, not once, but twice.”

"In a statement to NBC, Mukpo's father, Mitchell Levy, called Dr. Brantly's donation an act of "kindness and generosity" that "makes me believe in the goodness of humanity."

"The theory behind the transfusion treatment is this: The blood of an Ebola survivor should carry antibodies of the virus. By giving a current Ebola patient an injection of a compatible amount of blood plasma from someone who recovered from the disease, those antibodies could help the patient fight the virus."

That procedure is starting to be used in Africa currently - the problem with using unscreened serum (in desperation) is that other infections could be present and then transferred to an already sick person.. the people are reaching any way they can.

(Source)

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by TargeT (here)
I've had a Hemorrhagic fever TWICE now (two strains of dengue, there are 6 here on the islands... 4 more to go and I'm immune for life!) you don't cough, you don't sneeze, you feel like CRAP and move as little as possible (sure brings the contagious fluid movement to a minimum).

Ah - so you're not stating that Ebola (a hemorrhagic fever) couldn't be spread with a cough or a sneeze to someone close by.

Rather you're saying that such is not a significant risk, in part because victims don't cough or sneeze.

Posted by TargeT (here)
this is no where near a pandemic, it may be what is desired but it's NOT right now, its a small amount of cases currently.

... and you're saying that whatever the mechanisms of spreading this ... the spread is small right now (as best as we can tell ... realizing that the official stats may be an order of magnitude off, either way.)

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There is also an issue over the meaning of the word "airborne". The CDC (as in this page on "Transmission-Based Precautions") distinguishes between transmission of a pathogen by "the droplet route" and by "airborne route". A measles virus can come off an infected patients skin directly into the air, with no coughing or sneezing involved. The CDC calls that "airborne".

By that technical definition of "airborne", it may well be that Ebola is not airborne.


But adamant claims over whether Ebola is or is not airborne, without being clear whether (a) one is using the ordinary definition of that term, which for most people would include "the droplet route", or (b) one is using the CDC distinctions between airborne and droplet routes, are less effective, in my view, in increasing our shared understanding.

[Bob]

very good Paul - it is coming down to the verbiage issue, what does one word mean, CDC is saying airborne transmission means like in an aerosolized airborne transmission method for ANTHRAX for instance, the substance has been probably encapsulated in a "freeze dried" particle system, microscopic dust in other words, able to remain stable and dispirsed by a weapons delivery platform..

They keep saying NO AIRBORNE transmission using that mindset that we never hear about, yet alone for anyone not familiar with "medical geek-speak".. that it is not using the standard DRIED method of making a bioweapon. Therefore CDC can say, see it is not an aerosol transmission using a dried weapons system. It is not being used apparently to anyone's knowledge to use this "dried method" to spread or catch this virus..


What is being glossed over, which apparently really got Mike Adam's attention is the WET COUGH SNEEZE transmission, or coming in contact with the virus from a SURFACE. That colder surfaces can allow it to be stable enough and then transferred to a human or primate host. What I find interesting though, is that Spain is choosing now to use the thoughts that Canines can harbour the virus, and not present such..

[SilentFeathers]

Its a deputy that's showing symptoms, he went into the home several days ago.

[Bob]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Its a deputy that's showing symptoms, he went into the home several days ago.

JIm, you mean one of the people doing the transport of Mr. Duncan when he finally got checked into the Hospital? (the deputy), or is that a police officer?

[SilentFeathers]

On my phone, can't post link. Article is on Drudge.

[Bob]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
On my phone, can't post link. Article is on Drudge.

tnx, just updated the report above on a news conference from the Fire Chief of Frisco (a town north of Dallas). Apparently the deputy did NOT come in direct contact, but did come in contact with Mr. Duncan's family/relatives and was inside the apartment.. so this is appears "MAYBE" to be an INDIRECT contracting of the virus, not a direct contact.. IF IF IF this is a real situation. Folks are not reporting from the hospital.. At this point only the Mayor and the Fire Chief are responding.

Again, how did that indirect exposure cause a problem? It's not supposed to be easy to catch right? Statistically meaningless --- hmm..

The Fire Chief says that the people in this location where they transported the new patient from are being looked at as NEW potential ones exposed, such as doctors and nursing staff. HE EMPHASISES nothing to see here, paraphrasing, this is a LOW RISK EVENT, rest assured, we are doing everything we can - we have talked about this - we are prepared - for weeks if not months..

-- Update - they say (Texas Mayor and Fire Chief) - TRUST US DON'T WORRY - keep perspective, this is only a POSSIBLE case, has had some of the indicators, enough to warrant follow-up that cannot be done in the local clinic.

-- Update reiteration - there have been many false alarms, from people sick from having traveled back from a West African Country, and those who were sick on planes but had no virus (no ebola, having symptoms and diagnosed such as with Malaria). The only difference here with the deputy is that he was in the apartment, and talked with relatives of Mr. Duncan. So they are err'ing on the measure of caution.. to have him come in to the hospital for tests.

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His son says Dad does NOT HAVE Ebola

Article from Dallas Ft Worth local CBS news -

"The patient, Michael Monnig, was transported from a Frisco Care Now facility where he was complaining of “stomach issues,” according to sources.

"According to CBS 11’s Andrea Lucia, Monnig’s children said he woke up this morning feeling sore and a little nauseated. He went to clinic as a precaution.

“We were told by federal officials, county officials that you would have to come in direct contact with Duncan or direct contact with bodily fluids, and he did not,” said Monnig’s son, Logan about the possibility of his dad contracting Ebola. Logan said it’s a very scary time for his family, but they do not expect that his dad will test positive for the virus.

"Monning was not one of the 48 people being monitored by federal, state and local health officials because he never had direct contact with the patient.

"Monnig did enter the apartment where Duncan stayed after Duncan had been admitted to the hospital.

“He was in the apartment for 30 minutes, which we were told is no chance to contact the virus,” said Logan.

"First responders transported Monnig from the Care Now located at 301 W. Main Street in Frisco.

"The clinic reported that he was “exhibiting signs and symptoms of Ebola.”

"CBS 11 has confirmed with Care Now that the facility is in contact with the Centers for Disease Control and is holding everyone in the facility until receiving clearance from the CDC. The patient has been transported to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital by Frisco firefighter-paramedics, the same hospital where Duncan, the first patient to be diagnosed with the virus on American soil, was admitted. Duncan died earlier today, after spending more than 10 days in isolation at that hospital.

"Texas Health Presbyterian Dallas confirmed the patient’s arrival to the Emergency Room in statement, which reads in part, “Right now, there are more questions than answers about this case. Our professional staff of nurses and doctors is prepared to examine the patient, discuss any findings with appropriate agencies and officials. We are on alert with precautions and systems in place.” The hospital is still admitting and caring for other patients at this time."

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So with luck all this will be is a stomach flu, or simply "nerves" from an exceedingly worried person. Doctors and authorities are saying worrying about Ebola is NOT GOOD. Basically they are saying stop paying attention, you will NOT get Ebola. THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE WITH THIS - THERE IS NO OUTBREAK IN THE US.

Here is from the local news link: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/f...bola-symptoms/

[avid]

I am monitoring Niman's 'flu tracker' site:
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/...p=96712#p96712
about the death of a family dog. It is quite contentious, and worth watching the outcome.

Niman is usually 'on the ball' with news. Yet keeps an open mind - as cross-check all info globally via alternative news feeds, to avoid unnecessary stress and avoidable msm hype!

This whole scenario reeks of a major (yet nasty - but controllable) false flag, to divert our attention, and put fear into local communities, unnecessarily. To divert us from the illegal resource-grab in various 'at war' countries by the globalist cabal. The Zionists are still going to trash Gaza ahead despite Obama saying STOP! He is a puppet of a Zionist regime/cult, we should be aware we are controlled globally by such a 'régime'

[Bob]

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/na...pect/16924603/

"Right now, there are more questions than answers about this case," said Wendell Watson, a spokesman with the hospital.

The patient was identified as Sgt. Michael Monnig, a deputy who accompanied county health officials Zachary Thompson and Christopher Perkins into the apartment where Thomas Eric Duncan stayed in Dallas.

The deputy was ordered to go inside the unit with officials to get a quarantine order signed. (the relatives of Mr. Duncan were ORDERED to not leave the premises - a deputy was required to be present to ensure that they complied, understood the official order.)

No one who went inside the unit that day wore protective gear.

(No news on the condition of the other officials who went in with Sgt. Monnig)

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From the Article cited:

It will take up to 48 hours to get test results back to determine if Monnig tests positive for the Ebola virus.

The CareNow is located in the 300 block of Main Street. Patients were held inside the clinic as crews at the scene examined staff and others inside the building, but they have since been released.

"The patient claims to have had contact with the Dallas 'patient zero,'" according to a statement from Dana Baird-Hanks, a spokeswoman with the city of Frisco.

Health officials said the transportation of the patient was done out of an abundance of caution.

"We are being very cautious and are in contact with the health department to ensure we follow proper protocol," said Vicki Johns, with CareNow. "Our concern is for the safety and well being of everyone in our clinic."

News 8's Jason Whitely spoke to Chuck Moreno, who had gone into the CareNow facility with his 15-year-old son to get a flu shot Wednesday. Moreno said he saw a patient, whose skin was flushed and who was hunched over but walking, enter the clinic with his wife.

Within minutes, police and fire units surrounded the facility, taped off a gray SUV, and isolated other patients at the facility.

[Roisin]

Yes, I've been silent lately and the reason why is because I know a bad situation when I see one. This Ebola epidemic/pandemic is a case in point and it's really dragging me down.. at least when I think about it. So today was a end of a death watch for one of its victims. Funny how we knew how that one was going to end but this is only the beginning. There will be many more death watches to come but rest assured, those who manage to survive it, will not be among the destitute and poor who catch it too.

[Violet]

How on earth are they going to quarantine the Madrid nurse case? She walked around with symptoms for almost a week, and apparently she had reported them too but was not taken seriously by the meds. So, in the capital of Spain if you live a regular out and indoor life throughout a week with this virus, shouldn't the whole of Madrid be quarantined now?