Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

[SilentFeathers]

Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not, is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people if that is the route they take with it, but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable. No matter what happens they can now easily quarrenteen people, dissapear people, lock down locations (martial law) callapse the economy, pass mandatory vaccine laws, pass mandatory home inspections and confinscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps or some other more invasive way, chip people, need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species, and to depolulate at the same time......it has the same result whether its real or not.....

[Sidney]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not, is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people if that is the route they take with it, but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable. No matter what happens they can now easily quarrenteen people, dissapear people, lock down locations (martial law) callapse the economy, pass mandatory vaccine laws, pass mandatory home inspections and confinscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps or some other more invasive way, chip people, need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species, and to depolulate at the same time......it has the same result whether its real or not.....

I was kind of wondering if they will offer a vaccine, and if you don't take it, you either go to jail, get fined or have your obama care taken away, and of course if you get it taken away, and arent insured, you will be fined, so either way you are screwed if you don't take it. That would be a good motive for all the fear porn. I mean they have been trying to force vaccinate for years.

[KiwiElf]

First reported case in Cairns, Australia has now reportedly surfaced but testing of the nurse is (so far) negative (thank goodness!)

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...a8fd34d3f6595f

Queensland Ebola virus scare: Cairns nurse tests negative

Rose Brennan, Peter Michael, Brittany Vonow
The Courier-Mail
October 10, 2014 10:02AM


QUEENSLAND Health have this morning confirmed the Cairns nurse suspected of contracting Ebola has returned a negative result for the virus.

Sue Ellen Kovack returned on Tuesday from Western Africa, where she had been helping patients at a Red Cross Ebola treatment centre in Sierra Leone.

After placing herself in isolation, fears rose yesterday when she notified authorities of a fever.

However, Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young announced this morning that initial tests had indicated Ms Kovack was clear of Ebola.

She added Ms Kovack would continue to be monitored for at least another 24 hours.

“This is a necessary precaution given the patients has been to West Africa and has had a fever within the incubation period of 21 days,” Dr Young said.

“For the sake of her health and to follow due diligence, we want to be sure she is clear of Ebola virus disease as well as any other disease.”

Dr Young said Ms Kovack’s fever was improving but she was still suffering symptoms including a sore throat and feeling generally unwell.

Queensland woman being tested for Ebola
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She also said the health department was looking at keeping returning medical professionals in capital cities to ensure they were close to medical assistance.

She said the reaction from the community showed the importance of ensuring information was accessible.

“It shows there is a lot of fear out there... That’s why it’s so important to get the information out there so people don’t unnecessarily fear these things.”

Dr Young again reiterated the wider community was not at risk of the deadly virus.

Earlier, The Courier-Mail a Cairns nurse who recently returned from Ebola-ravaged West Africa will this morning discover whether she has been infected with the deadly virus.

Sue Ellen Kovack, 57, had been working as a nurse for a month in an Ebola hospital in Sierra Leone on behalf of the Red Cross and has been in home isolation since her return to Cairns.

She returned to Australia at the weekend and arrived home to north Queensland on Tuesday.
Spain Ebola victim's dog destroyed
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e...n47vz9c5xuj3mc

HITTING HOME: Nurse in Ebola scare

FALSE ALARM: Gold Coast alert

SAFE ZONE: Our Ebola containment room

Ms Kovack presented to the Cairns Hospital’s emergency department with a low-grade fever at 1pm yesterday and was immediately transferred to an isolation room where monitoring by an infectious disease specialist began.

If Ms Kovack’s test results are positive for Ebola it will be the first case of the disease in Australia.

While fever was the first symptom of Ebola, chief health officer Dr Jeannette Young moved to quell any fears that anyone was at risk, even if Ms Kovack did have the disease.

“There is no need for any community concern at all because this particular individual has only recently got any sort of symptom and she’s been in her own home, isolated there, so there is absolutely no risk for the general community in Cairns,” she said.

Ms Kovack did not have any symptoms when she first arrived home in Australia.

Aside from a temperature of 37.6C when she arrived at the hospital, Dr Young said the nurse was feeling well. The usual temperature for an adult is 37C.

A sample of her blood was flown to Brisbane yesterday afternoon to a specialist waiting to conduct the tests which were expected to take four hours. The results were not expected to be known until early this morning.

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While Ms Kovack had been living in isolation with a flatmate and had travelled with other people on the planes from Africa, Dr Young said these people were not at risk.

“Ebola virus is very difficult to transmit, it’s not like the flu or measles, it’s not transmitted through the air. You need to be exposed to secretions. So that is vomit, diarrhoea, blood … she doesn’t have any symptoms producing those secretions so therefore her risk of infecting someone else is very, very low.”

Dr Young said the nurse followed the protocol for medical staff treating Ebola sufferers in Africa by isolating herself for 21 days after she arrived home and taking her temperature twice a day.

“She’s done everything appropriately,” Dr Young said.

Ms Kovack is a remote health nurse who travels to isolated communities in the Northern Territory, Western Australia, Cape York and Cocos Island.

She has previously worked for the Red Cross in 2000 in South Sudan and in Sierra Leone in 2002.

Dr Young said that if Ms Kovack was confirmed to be suffering from Ebola, Queensland Health would endeavour to provide her with the best treatment.

“We will work through what is best for her, this is all then about what is the best treatment that we could give her,” she said.

Dr Young said that given where Ms Kovack had been working there was obviously potential for her to test positive. “I am treating it as if it was (Ebola) because I don’t know how likely it is … so there is the potential there so that’s why we’re treating this so seriously.

“I’m absolutely confident with all of the processes that we have in place, and that Cairns Hospital has in place, that there is no risk to anyone in that community or any staff in that hospital.”

Ms Kovack’s blood sample will be tested at Forensic and Scientific Services at Coopers Plains in Brisbane’s south.

Dr Young praised Ms Kovack for her bravery in going to West Africa.

“I think she’s an amazing lady to go to Africa and provide that service.”

From Sierra Leone on September 26, Ms Kovack wrote on Facebook that she’d reached a “pivotal moment” in her career:

On September 30, she posted pictures of herself in the personal protective equipment that aid workers must wear.

Before she left for Africa, Ms Kovack revealed she was anxious about the trip.

“I just think everything I’ve done in my career so far has led me to this,’’ she said.

“I’m a humanist at heart and it’s a big world out there with a lot of issues.

“People put up their hands because they have an interest in their fellow man, that’s why I’m going.”

This latest scare comes after a man was tested for Ebola at the Gold Coast Hospital when he claimed to be ill after returning from Africa.

Brisbane doctor Jenny Stedmon remains in home isolation in south Brisbane after her stint treating Ebola patients with the Red Cross.

Queensland Health has specialist isolation rooms in major hospitals.

The latest report from the World Health Organisation shows almost 4000 people have died in the current outbreak in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone – there have also been cases in Nigeria.

The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the US, Thomas Eric Duncan, has died.

The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the US, Thomas Eric Duncan, has died.

Fear spreads as fast as virus

FEAR has gripped the US following the death of the first person in the country to be diagnosed with Ebola virus – a situation Australian experts want to avoid here.

Australians have an extremely low risk of contracting the virus. It is neither highly contagious, nor is it an airborne disease.

“Ebola is not easily transmissible,’’ said Dr Enzo Binotto, director of infectious diseases at Cairns Hospital.

“We’ve got good infection controls. We got strict measures. Testing has been done.’’

Dr Binotto, a world-renowned specialist, said heightened anxiety about Ebola was an understandable and normal reaction.

Reports of victims bleeding from the eyes and organs liquefying in the deadly outbreak added to the fear and hysteria.

“Ebola is an unknown,’’ Dr Binotto said.

“But we don’t expect the problems we’re seeing in Africa in a developed nation like Australia where we can test people and quickly contain it.’’

Infectious diseases specialist Andrew Redmond in a high containment room at the Royal Bri

Infectious diseases specialist Andrew Redmond in a high containment room at the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital.

Health experts warn that Ebola, a disease that has a relatively low transmission rate, has spread dramatically in West Africa because it is in a region where people are malnourished, with poor shelter and no access to adequate healthcare.

Thomas Eric Duncan, 42, died yesterday in the Texas hospital where he had been admitted last week after exhibiting symptoms of the virus.

Duncan (pictured) had travelled from Liberia but lied on immigration forms about whether he had been in contact with anyone in Africa suffering the disease.

The Washington Post has reported that people around the US have been reporting to doctors worried about their risk.

Authorities are now engaged in a huge campaign to explain to Americans the way the virus works and that they are highly unlikely to have or contract the disease at home.

“This is both a biological plague and a psychological one, and fear can spread even faster than the virus,” The Post noted on its front page.

Ebola fears as person tested

A member of Doctors Without Borders at an Ebola isolation ward in Guinea, West Africa.

Australian doctors said fear of Ebola eclipsed other health crises around the world, including tuberculosis and AIDS, while diarrhoea, a preventable and treatable condition, still kills 1.5 million children each year.

“It is not a time for panic or overreaction,’’ said Australian Medical Association president Associate Professor Brian Owler.

“Both the Australian Chief Medical Officer and the Queensland Chief Health Officer have given assurances that all the correct procedures have been undertaken to contain any infection or contamination, if indeed it is Ebola.”

Prof Owler said the nurse and other aid workers should be praised for their efforts to help Ebola victims.

“They have selflessly gone to Africa to help thousands of poor suffering people who are trapped in one of the greatest humanitarian crises facing the world,’’ he said.

[Bob]

IS it possible to predict YEARS in advance?

(multiple Sources (1) (2)

Replikins is not like data mining internet, quite different..

It data mines proteins, and gene changes.

"LONDON, July 16, 2010 -- BioRadar UK Ltd. predicted one year ago the current severe Foot and Mouth Disease (FMD) outbreaks after recording an increase of the Replikin Count of the FMD Virus (FMDV) to its highest level in 52 years."

"Replikins Global Surveillance System™ analysis of the Ebola virus show the highest ever peaks in Ebola Gene Replikin Counts in the years 2012 and 2013. Such genomic increases predicted the current worst ever Ebola outbreak."

Also, if there is a sharp drop, it could signal the END of an outbreak..

Pretty amazing..

So they knew it was coming.. and had the analysis tools.

"Dr. Samuel Bogoch, chairman of BioRadar UK Ltd., reported to the Amsterdam conference that the new technology gives accurate advance notice of virus outbreaks."

The data on the Ebola outbreak predictions is to be released to the general public October 14th, 2014

Quarantine and travel restrictions should be strengthened against those Ebola viruses that have already entered human hosts, to end the present Ebola outbreak sooner.

The "analysis system" (the machine(?) ) says QUARANTINE and enact travel restrictions to force a burn out.. Don't do it and it will continue to spread. (according to the "machine")..

Another solution NOT explored by "the machine" is that people could be given LOW COST antivirals and NOT LET THE PEOPLE DIE..

TO BURN OUT THE VIRUS MEANS TO LET THE PEOPLE DIE.. that is what the "machine" does not have, compassion.. help the people with the low cost anti-virals..

[Bob]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not,

is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people
if that is the route they take with it,

but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......

no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable.

No matter what happens they can now easily quarantine people,
disappear people,
lock down locations (martial law)
collapse the economy,
pass mandatory vaccine laws,
pass mandatory home inspections
and confiscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps
or some other more invasive way,
chip people,

need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species,

and to depolulate at the same time......

it has the same result whether its real or not.....

Bingo !

and it is cruel and sadistic - what a psychotic mind would enjoy no doubt..

(I took the liberty of adding some white space to your comment if that is OK with you)

[Bob]

Posted by Violet (here)
Bob, there are two more cases that I have no sources for but that need attention. One is to do with refugees from lower Africa and the other with pilgrimage in SA now reaching its end.

[..]
OP Solutions Link 3 reminded me of http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20571172. Related?

Hi Violet -

I did some looking into the Fenugreek seed concentrate and it does have anti-viral activity, verified apparently by NIH associated scientists (National Institutes of Health).. It's interesting that sometimes folks seem to think that these agencies' scientists don't test out normally known about natural medicines, but apparently they do.. Here is what they say about this herbal. It could be useful with a variety of needs.

"Abstract
There is evidence that Trigonella foenum-graecum L. (fenugreek), a traditional Chinese herb, and its components are beneficial in the prevention and treatment of diabetes and central nervous system disease.

The pharmacological activities of trigonelline, a major alkaloid component of fenugreek, have been more thoroughly evaluated than fenugreek's other components, especially with regard to diabetes and central nervous system disease.

Trigonelline (the compound in Fenugreek) has:

• hypoglycemic,
• hypolipidemic,
• neuroprotective,
• antimigraine,
• sedative,
• memory-improving,
• antibacterial,
• antiviral, and
• anti-tumor activities, and
• it has been shown to reduce diabetic auditory neuropathy and platelet aggregation.

It acts by affecting:

• β cell regeneration,
• insulin secretion,
• activities of enzymes related to glucose metabolism,
• reactive oxygen species,
• axonal extension, and
• neuron excitability.

However, further study of trigonelline's pharmacological activities and exact mechanism is warranted.

Along with application of this knowledge to its clinical usage.

This review aims to give readers a survey of the pharmacological effects of trigonelline, especially in diabetes, diabetic complications and central nervous system disease.

In addition, because of its pharmacological value and low toxicity, the reported adverse effects of trigonelline in experimental animal models and humans are briefly reviewed, and the pharmacokinetics of trigonelline are also discussed."

Amazing that groups that one would assume wouldn't be interested look at traditional herbals and try to find out what IS IT inside the herbal that is doing something, then to figure out how..

NIH abstract link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22680628

[Bob]

Death of a Baby - with pictures

Since some keep seeming to say it's not real, here is an article that one can read and see pictures.

My heart feels very very sad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/10/wo...e-a-baby.html#

[Atlas]

These images won't convince the skeptics. Notice that of 5 civilians, only 1 is wearing a mask.: shocked:

[Bob]

That is part of the problem, they think they are safe, lack of information. I wonder what it would take gory pictures of dying people, violating decency or respect for the dead, sick or dying to what, amuse the skeptic ? Should they volunteer for duty at a Clinic? Plenty of opportunity to do that ..examples - (1), (2), (3). I've been "over there" in the crowded overwhelmed cities and outskirts. It's surreal trying to wrap one's head around it. I only came back with MERS_nCOV, which gave me perpetual drowning issues is what it felt like, 24/7 unable to breath and low oxygen levels of 50-60, no energy, and suppressed immune system, - having been sick for a year 2011-2012, and had my mom die within 10 days exposure from AEROSOL transfer from that virus laden cough and sneeze 15 feet away from her.. and hospitals also just "laughed" back in the States when I said i just came back from an area with viral outbreak of this disease and was exposed - nothing to see here.. belligerence really was their response - I guess it's real to me what an aerosol virus transmission can do.

Posted by buares (here)
These images won't convince the skeptics.
Notice that of 5 civilians, only 1 is wearing a mask. [..]

[Roisin]

Here's another mainstream news article published yesterday where a couple of long time Ebola scientists from a major university are criticizing what the gov't has been saying about that virus and how the public is being misinformed on some crucial facts about it.
Seattle scientist: Government 'underestimated' Ebola
I posted that story in the Hot Zone thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post887006

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Sidney (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not, is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people if that is the route they take with it, but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable. No matter what happens they can now easily quarrenteen people, dissapear people, lock down locations (martial law) callapse the economy, pass mandatory vaccine laws, pass mandatory home inspections and confinscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps or some other more invasive way, chip people, need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species, and to depolulate at the same time......it has the same result whether its real or not.....

I was kind of wondering if they will offer a vaccine, and if you don't take it, you either go to jail, get fined or have your obama care taken away, and of course if you get it taken away, and arent insured, you will be fined, so either way you are screwed if you don't take it. That would be a good motive for all the fear porn. I mean they have been trying to force vaccinate for years.

I don't think they'll take Obamacare away, but make it so you have to have it....it's already on the law books, people ain't just signing up for it. If they can't convince people to sign up they will force people now. This whole ordeal is heading towards a mandatory vaccine among other things. They almost don't need massive cases of ebola here, the fear factor alone will cause many to freely comply. (just wait till ISIS appears here!).

[Hervé]

Briton dies of suspected Ebola in Macedonia, his hotel sealed off

Published time: October 09, 2014 18:42
Edited time: October 10, 2014 02:53
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Reuters / Mariana Bazo

A Briton with symptoms of Ebola has died in Macedonia, local authorities said. The hotel in Skopje where he was staying has been sealed off, while another Briton and hotel staff are being kept inside to prevent possible spreading of infection.

According to Macedonian authorities the man came to Skopje from London on October 2 and was taken to hospital on Thursday where he died several hours later.

The man reportedly suffered from fever, vomiting and internal bleeding. His condition deteriorated rapidly, Dr. Jovanka Kostovska of the ministry's commission for infectious diseases said.

"We could not determine whether a citizen of England suffered from the disease. It is possible to question haemorrhagic fever,” Kostovska told MRT news, as she expects the results from the autopsy in two days’ time.

“The patient had symptoms of mild fever, 37.4 C, which does not correspond to Ebola, taking into account that the characteristic temperature for people with Ebola is above 38.5 C. However, rapid and severe clinical picture, vomiting, internal bleeding, and sudden and rapid death, symptoms of Ebola, raised suspicions,” Kostovska said.

The tests have been carried out to see if he had Ebola and have been sent to Germany's Frankfurt to confirm the disease.

A Macedonian government spokesman told the BBC that a companion of the late Briton told the local authorities that they had traveled straight from the UK and had not visited countries affected by Ebola

The ambulance crew and the hotel staff were isolated to prevent spreading of infection, and the hotel building was also sealed off.

A spokesman from the Macedonian Foreign Ministry said: "I can confirm that a British person has died and he is in the state hospital in Skopje,” The independent reports.

If the diagnosis is confirmed it will be the first case of a UK citizen dying of Ebola.

“We are aware of reports and we are looking into them urgently,” a Foreign Office spokesperson said.

Until recently, all Ebola victims either lived or visited Africa. Spanish nurse Teresa Romero was the first person in Europe to contract Ebola outside Africa.

READ MORE: Underfunding behind Spanish hospital failure to isolate Ebola vicitim

See also this post (<---)

[avid]

“The patient had symptoms of mild fever, 37.4 C, which does not correspond to Ebola, taking into account that the characteristic temperature for people with Ebola is above 38.5 C. However, rapid and severe clinical picture, vomiting, internal bleeding, and sudden and rapid death, symptoms of Ebola, raised suspicions,” Kostovska said.

The young lady who died in photographic detail here, did not have a high fever either, yet had ebola.

Although it is widely reported that one of the first signs of Ebola is a fever, cases, including those that are fatal, present without fever.

An MSF doctor takes her temperature. At 36.6C she has no fever. Although the Ebola virus often causes a fever, the fact that she does not have one is not a decisive factor in determining whether or not a patient is infected.

[Bob]

Good articles Avid, Roisin Amzer Zo - thank you -

Emphasis on the monitoring of temperature - no guarantees that in all people (there is mention), people could have (if exposed) but yet developed or maintained "a lower grade temperature", that would seem normal. Certain factors can suppress fevers in other words.

What if the diet consists of ingesting fever reducing nutrients? Or something like an underlying infection of Hepatitis C virus can do it, or thyroid issues, or sepsis..

HOW can CDC say for sure, EVERYONE with "the fever" temperature threshold number "screeners" are told to look for isn't being suppressed by a person with a hemorrhagic fever PLUS Hepatitis C concurrently?

This is why "non-party line" doctors who are honest, willing to explain what are the issues, are saying basically, it is asinine, the generating of misinformation to appease an uninformed public who are relying on "party line" dogma to understand the nature of pathological disease issues which can very likely be present in travelers living in subsistence conditions in regions endemic with those infectious agents (Hep C, sepsis from untreated bacterial infections from wounds, unsanitary childbirth..). Informed people can deal with it, IMHO and then develop a positive outcome, and create a situation of moving past challenges. Those spreading the "party line" cripple people, for whatever purpose suits their demeanor apparently (or what their handlers have told them).

As Dr. Michael Katze, a University of Washington scientist willing to be truthful, is pointing out, he and his team are working on investigation and treatment, albeit with mice; emphasising there are insufficient human studies to absolutely predict with certainty, that a screening temperature or bloodshot eyes and honesty in filling out an piece of paper question form is going to be adequate.

He also points out there is no way to explain with 100% certainty that "bodily contact, bodily fluid contact" is the only way it can spread to others.

(numerous sources (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7), (8)

https://www.msf.org.za/msf-publicati...la-beats-finda - "She reported extreme weakness, vomiting, and dysentery. These symptoms, along with fever and nosebleeds, are typical of those caused by the Ebola virus. An MSF doctor takes her temperature. At 36.6C she has no fever. Although the Ebola virus often causes a fever, the fact that she does not have one is not a decisive factor in determining whether or not a patient is infected."



The nurse at the outset was NOT using BSL-3 or BSL-4 safety precautions, and at that point in the "evaluation step" has most likely, exposed herself. Even without the "fever" being observed. 2 days later, indicating massive infection has already progressed inside Finda Marie Kamano, who at the time, was of age 33 then died, of Ebola. (The nurse in Spain for instance was suspected of touching her face while removing her gloves..)



meanwhile, PRAGUE was briefly concerned that they may have had a case - saying only in about 20 hours they determined it wasn't ebola (that was a FAST test).


AND

Liberia has said, JOURNALISTS GO HOME, we don't want you showing what is happening here!

A news blackout is their solution, suppress information. (Source)
"The media rights campaign group warned that panicked governments fighting the epidemic were "quarantining" reporters to prevent them covering the crisis."
"Party Line Suppression", there's some of the smoking guns.. with open press what is happening gets coverage, without, the spin meisters have a field day.

[avid]

So.... temperature checks at airports useless!

[Bob]

Posted by avid (here)
So.... temperature checks at airports useless!

Well.. in one word, yes.

It's not just one taking ibuprofen fever reducer, it could be low due to diet, or different infections present as well.. I really like what Phillipbbg suggested "connecting the dots", absolutely brilliant!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post886871 is the forum link a page back..

instead of thermometers that can be defeated or masked with another infection, or thyroid condition, a medical dog trained to smell the "signs" absolutely would not be able to be defeated, and if even if the person doesn't know by themselves they may have an exposure, the medical dog could help and alert them, something is up. Such is working very well being able to notice when biological changes are happening with a cancer for instance, the telltale signs are chemically present. It' something than could be developed faster than a molecular sniffer chip.

UPDATE: - I found this on ZeroHedge, talking about the optical screening thermometer being used during screenings..

In addition, even the Centers for Disease Control admits that thermal scanners often fail. As the Guardian reports:

Checking body temperature isn’t a sure-fire way to find individuals infected with Ebola. People can carry the virus for up to three weeks before showing symptoms, and are not contagious during that period. The patient in the US case, Thomas Eric Duncan, was reportedly asymptomatic when he travelled from Liberia to Dallas.

In a guidance paper produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for airport and public health officials, the agency lists what it sees as problems with the devices, including cost, lack of precision, need for frequent calibration and maintenance and training requirements. Testing efficacy to judge the scanners write large is difficult because of the many and changing models available.

While such scanners can be good at ruling out people without fevers, the CDC said, they have a wide and varying range of efficacy at finding people with fevers depending on environmental conditions and even the age of the person being scanned. The FDA approved the devices for use only with more conventional methods of taking someone’s temperature, such as a mercury thermometer or color-changing strips.

“Policy makers may feel some pressure to use [non-contact infrared thermometers],” said French researchers at the Institut de Veille Sanitaire. “But the decision making process should not ignore the poor scientific evidence on NCIT’s efficacy to delay the introduction of a novel influenza strain.”

“The psychological reassuring effect on the public can influence the decision to implement such screening, as was the case in Singapore and Canada,” said the same study from Institut de Veille Sanitaire. “But these countries also recognised that the public may lose confidence in this measure if an undetected case had entered the country and generated secondary cases.”

The temperature can be skewed by taking a fever reducer in the simplest form. That's the bottom line, if that happens, do they know if the person has an infection or not?

[avid]

Let's get the dogs out asap!!! Great idea.....

[Bob]

Interesting news service AP reports they received Thomas Duncan's medical records, and when Mr. Duncan was in the hospital the first time, when he was sent home, he had at least 103 degrees way over the warning flags plus a dialog saying he had just come back from west Africa.. Hospital refuses to comment.. -- more to come as this develops.. (CBS reporting)

and the "official" number of deaths from the current Ebola outbreak has risen to 4,033, ... The latest count brings the total number of confirmed, probable, and suspected cases of Ebola to 8,399.

It is being emphasised over and over, those "official" numbers are probably in actuality 2.5 times under-reported because of people's fear of being ostracized/shunned or put in some clinic afraid of dying in the clinic, hoping that they will "naturally" get over their hemorrhagic fever.

[Sidney]

Just to keep things in perspective, here are some seasonal flu stats.

source link http://pediatrics.about.com/od/kidsa...s-from-flu.htm

Updated October 08, 2014.

Written or reviewed by a board-certified physician. See About.com's Medical Review Board.

Deaths in Flu Pandemics

Although a lot of people die in a typical flu season, the death rate from the flu can go up greatly during a flu pandemic or worldwide outbreak of the flu.

The increased deaths aren't necessarily because the strain of flu virus is stronger, but rather because so many more people get sick during a pandemic, such as:

1889 Russian Flu Pandemic - about 1 million flu deaths
1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic - over 40 to 50 million flu deaths, including about 675,000 in the United States. The flu infected over half of the world's population by the end of the pandemic.
1957 Asian Flu Pandemic - over 1 million flu deaths, including about 69,800 in the United States
1968 Hong Kong Flu Pandemic - about 1 to 3 million flu deaths
2009 H1N1 Flu Pandemic - between 8,870 and 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide
The 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic was the first pandemic for which a large supply of flu vaccine was available, although it came as cases were already peaking in the United States. A limited supply of flu vaccine was also available during the 1968 pandemic, but again, by the time it was available, cases had already peaked.

Deaths from Flu

Even in a non-pandemic year, a lot of people die from the flu, usually because of secondary complications, such as pneumonia or complications of chronic medical problems.

Most people are aware of the 36,000 yearly flu deaths estimate that many experts use. This was an average number of flu deaths that experts found during the 1990s.

An estimate that uses a much longer time frame, including more recent flu seasons, from 1976 to 2007, has found an average of 23,607 deaths.

There is a lot of variability from year to year, though, with a low of 3,349 deaths during the 1986-87 flu season to a high of 48,614 in 2003-04, which was considered a severe flu season.

Pediatric Flu Deaths

As much as people like to think the flu is a mild disease, you can't get away from the fact that a lot of kids die from the flu each year.

Unlike flu deaths in adults, which are just estimates, we actually know exactly how many kids die from the flu each year as it has been a nationally notifiable condition since 2004:

2003-04 flu season - 152 pediatric flu deaths
2004-05 flu season - 39 pediatric flu deaths
2005-06 flu season - 41 pediatric flu deaths
2006-07 flu season - 68 pediatric flu deaths
2007-08 flu season - 88 pediatric flu deaths
2008-09 flu season - 133 pediatric flu deaths
2009-10 flu season - 282 pediatric flu deaths
(swine flu pandemic)
2010-11 flu season - 123 pediatric flu deaths
2011-12 flu season - 34 pediatric flu deaths
2012-13 flu season - 171 pediatric flu deaths
2013-14 flu season - 108 pediatric flu deaths
2014-15 flu season -
And these aren't all kids with risk factors, like having asthma, diabetes, or other chronic medical condition. Reports have shown that about half of the children who die from the flu each year have no known high-risk factors for flu complications.

Preventing Flu Deaths

Of course, the best way to prevent flu deaths is to avoid getting sick with the flu in the first place.

You can try to avoid the flu by staying away from people who are sick and washing your hands frequently, but since the most simple, best protection from the flu is a yearly flu vaccine, that is likely your best way to prevent flu deaths.

During the 2010-11 flu season, 72% of children who died from the flu were not vaccinated.

Sources:

CDC. FluView. 2013-2014 Influenza Season Week 22 ending May 31, 2014

CDC. Estimates of Deaths Associated with Seasonal Influenza --- United States, 1976--2007. MMWR. August 27, 2010 / 59(33);1057-1062.

CDC. Influenza-Associated Pediatric Deaths --- United States, September 2010--August 2011. MMWR. September 16, 2011 / 60(36);1233-1238.

Simonsen, Lone. Global Mortality Estimates for the 2009 Influenza Pandemic from the GLaMOR Project: A Modeling Study. PLOS Medicine.Published: Nov 26, 2013.

U.S. Department of Health & Human Services. History of Flu Pandemics. http://www.flu.gov/individualfamily/...c/history.html Accessed Dec 2011.

However, WHO and CDC has a history of scewing the stats to fullfill their vaccine agendas, and here is another source that give more information on the perspective.
And I understand that Ebola is not the flu, but we need to keep in mind, historically what has been pushed upon the public, that fall way behind on actual facts, when it comes to accuracy within the numbers.
http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-New...-Evidence.aspx

[Bob]

Live with the "virus" (the virus is your friend embrace it...hmmmm) or stop the virus? Doesn't matter what virus - if it were "flu", or mumps, rubella, yellow fever or hepatitis.. hmm

Just seems to me, if battle field Earth is the issue, human survival, or survival of the flora and lower fauna (an either or) at the expense of others living on and in the planet, or, a balance achieved by, wait for it, here it comes... "sustainability" (eeeeeee said the nuclear word there..) and husbandry/stewardship... it, "the issue" requires understanding of what is happening IN-THE-MOMENT. Can't look ? Why is that?

And that is achieved by identification of what is happening, how is it happening, where is it happening, why is it happening - (obtain all characteristics), then sort it, connect the dots. And then create the flow that a solution can become obvious, and allow that to manifest.. It doesn't matter really if that is economics, or nature sciences, or working with one's child.. The moment suppression or deviation comes in to divert attention from the needed steps, observation, and identification, spin can happen, and nothing progresses..

(This friendly reminder was brought to you by "EBOLA-LITE", the new fresh breathmint, look for it on your shelves, or under your mud-hut's floorboards provided by the traveling people in the white coats with big goggled eyes..) that's satire in-case it went past someone.. I have at least started to hear ON MSM, NO JOKING about this stuff.. so a positive change is happening.

OPEN NEWS, not suppression, not spin.