Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

[TargeT]

Posted by Bob (here)
OPEN NEWS, not suppression, not spin.

Not exaggeration?

So far it sounds like a few things are said to have happened:

The Haemorrhagic Fever no longer exhibits Fever symptoms

Ebola can be spread by the uninfected or newly infected (not how it previously has always been spread)

Ebola now can be contracted from surface contact (not how it previously acted)

Ebola is now considered Airborne (not how it previously was considered)

What makes you think that "medical dogs" will do anything to fight this morphing virus that seems to change to defeat every established protocol?

Each of these new fantastic changes to the virus makes me question the validity of this entire thing more... and sounds like GROSS exaggeration.

Next we are going to hear that it raises the dead.....

Oh wait, it's already happening:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HOzOlZVK1cM

[Bob]

Vaccine Trials are happening in MALI

(Source)

Selected Health workers in Mali have been given an experimental vaccine against Ebola that has been designed to "boost the immunity" of the body.

“This research will give us crucial information about whether the vaccine is safe, well-tolerated and capable of stimulating adequate immune responses in the highest priority target population – healthcare workers in west Africa,” said Prof Myron Levine, director of the centre for vaccine development at the University of Maryland, which is running the trial in conjunction with the Malian ministry of health.

Oxford and Glaxo-Smith-Kline have been co testing this vaccine.

The vaccine was designed by National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Bethesda, Maryland. GSK is the manufacturer in UK.

[Bob]

Some Staff at Madrid's hospital have said enough, and have quit coming into work

(Source)

"Carlos III hospital treating virus-hit nurse Teresa Romero Ramos suffers staff shortage amid concerns over training and safety"

Reason?

A lack of training and safety standards

"The prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, did not comment on allegations of substandard practices, but said a special commission had been set up to discuss measures to stop the disease spreading."

“There are questions as to whether the protective suits are adequate, if the protocols are adequate. A health professional could accuse the administration of a public health offence if they are forced to work in conditions that are not adequate.”

[Bob]

Alex Newman, a foreign correspondent for The New American, is normally based in Europe has written an article for the New American, saying here is how to stop Ebola from spreading..

The Governments on both sides of the Atlantic ocean are urging calm, stay calm, nothing to see here really, just something that can be controlled with a vaccine, or some military action..

But a company that needs the rubber from rubber trees on its plantation took matters into its own hands.

They had no clue about Ebola, but went to the internet for locating accurate information, sorting through the spin as best as they could using common sense.

What they came up with was EDUCATION was needed first, educate all of their workers, (and themselves), so that they knew what to do.. What to do is how to treat someone infected, how to prevent infection, how to carefully and safely bury a person who has died, and how to decontaminate where they were living. A B C D E.. IDENTIFY, EDUCATE, TREAT, ISOLATE and repeat.

First they built isolation clinics using shipping containers and plastic wrap. Company trucks were turned into makeshift ambulances.

Protective suits used to clean up chemical spills became medical gear to protect those who may be exposed to an infected patient.

Meanwhile, company janitors were trained in how to properly bury the bodies of Ebola victims, company police were deployed to enforce a “no visitors” rule, and teachers at the company’s schools visited each home to teach farm workers and their families about the disease — something especially crucial as rumors about Ebola continue to spread like wildfire among the population.

Unlike the Liberian government’s measures — coordinated with the controversial World Health Organization — Firestone’s plan worked.

The head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) team in Liberia, Dr. Brendan Flannery, praised Firestone’s efforts to combat Ebola as “resourceful, innovative and effective,” NPR reported. When asked what was needed to turn the tide, Flannery responded: “More Firestones.”

Alex wraps it up commenting on what he has heard -

"Especially troubling to many doctors and experts is the fact that U.S. borders essentially remain wide open even as Washington, D.C., purports to possess wild powers on everything from quarantining healthy people with no symptoms to locking down entire cities and enforcing coercive “treatment” such as forced vaccination. A vaccine for Ebola is reportedly being developed. "

This came out Friday, 10 October 2014.

The summary is

• EDUCATE, (learn everything about infectious disease detection, control)
• then go house to house, and
• EDUCATE (and find out infected or not, exposed or not)
• Identify what is present (if any at each household)
• Transport if needed, safely and treat, disinfect where the household had the illness
• Those who die, bury safely, do not re-infect
• PREVENT entry to the community from outsiders (isolate importing more potential infections)

Also: http://online.wsj.com/articles/liber...ola-1412629331

Firestone employs 8500 people in Liberia - for stopping importing Ebola onto the plantation, Firestone’s company police, normally tasked with chasing rubber thieves, were given orders to enforce a “No Visitors” policy.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/i...1006152601.jpg

Clusters of people are located at the work sites listed here - outbreaks tend to happen in clusters

[Matisse]

Posted by Bob (here)
Some Staff at Madrid's hospital have said enough, and have quit coming into work

(Source)

"Carlos III hospital treating virus-hit nurse Teresa Romero Ramos suffers staff shortage amid concerns over training and safety"

Reason?

A lack of training and safety standards

"The prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, did not comment on allegations of substandard practices, but said a special commission had been set up to discuss measures to stop the disease spreading."

“There are questions as to whether the protective suits are adequate, if the protocols are adequate. A health professional could accuse the administration of a public health offence if they are forced to work in conditions that are not adequate.”

Yes, this is the situation. Teresa Romero the infected nurse, and the other 7 or 8 persons under observation are on the fifth and sixth floors and it seems they are finding difficluty just to find people willing to take them up food on those floors... One person at the hospital said if anyone would come as a nurse looking for work they would hire them immediately...It makes me wonder, there is one patient and 7 under observation in the capital, what would happen if there were one thousand infected?

That being said, their grievances are real, the protocols have been ridiculous, they don't even have suits that fit. The hospitals and health care in general here have been seriously underfunded for the past decade. I rarely visit the doctor or the hospital, but on the few occasions that i,ve been to my family doctor or the emergency ward I could feel the frustation in the air. The majority really want to help and do their job, but they are not giving them the funding to be able to.

Still, this makes me want to go to Madrid and at least help bringing up food to them...

[Jean-Luc]

from ZeroHedge, Oct 10

Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely
We warned a week ago of the various possibilities surrounding an Ebola outbreak in America, and today we get some degree of confirmation of a medical-based martial-law coming to the US. Governor Dan Malloy has declared a Public Health Emergency in Connecticut, authorizing the "isolation of any individual reasonably believed to have been exposed to the Ebola virus." Simply put, as we noted previously, the State of Public Health Emergency allows bureaucrats to detain and force-vaccinate people without due process - despite not one single case being found in CT. If there is a major Ebola pandemic in America, all of the liberties and the freedoms that you currently enjoy would be gone.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...uspended-indef

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Bob]

Posted by Buddha's Palm (here)
http://www.infowars.com/what-theyre-...o-fight-ebola/

Amid the mainstream media hype surrounding Ebola, it may come as major shock to discover that for quite some time there have been major scientific breakthroughs regarding the numerous ways in which we may be able to diminish or even halt the virus at a base level.

Agreed - all research is still pointing in the direction of certain military groups who have those solutions - there have been at least 4 conventional biochemical routes, and at least 3 plant based routes (probably part of the traditional treatment methods in Africa).. Having spoken just recently to one of two contacts in the area in Africa affected, Sierra Leone is not in a good state, all but one district now affected.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

If the Xenex Germ-Zapping Robot used in a San Antonio hospital can kill ebola in health care facilites, I wonder if a variation could be used to kill ebola in the human body?

What comes to mind is an ultra-violet device strapped to one's wrist, of sufficient intensity to reach arteries and veins, and worn for some undefined duration.

Would there be unwanted side effects?

[Bob]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
If the Xenex Germ-Zapping Robot used in a San Antonio hospital can kill ebola in health care facilites, I wonder if a variation could be used to kill ebola in the human body?

What comes to mind is an ultra-violet device strapped to one's wrist, of sufficient intensity to reach arteries and veins, and worn for some undefined duration.

Would there be unwanted side effects?

In-Vivo (in the body) photodynamic therapy is valid for bacterial and viral infections, I believe the technique of an external shunt procedure was looked at, where photo-illumination happens out-side-the body, and the blood allowed to enter back in - (such as using a vein in the leg to get the blood externally sterily exposable).

By adding photosensitizing chemicals, which attach to viral molecules (or select bacterial proteins), the photo activation energy then induces the toxic response terminating some key aspect of the pathogen.

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article....ticleid=315585 shows some work done in this field.

It was hypothesized, that "in-vivo-vaccination" would be able to be induced, using whatever viral substance already exists in the body, not requiring some external creation of a "vaccine", and vaccine side effects.. If the virus was sufficiently de-activated in the body using the shunt UV sterilization technique, that would highlight natural killer cell recognition of the now observable virus proteins.

The question is, can sufficient viral de-activation happen fast enough, when dealing with a virus which destroys the body's natural defence killer cells? With the filoviruses, the destruction happens very fast, and kidney and liver function is damaged or destroyed, the spleen, and so forth..

A good article also to look at another "filtering method" to remove selected toxins, and viruses is here: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/artificial-...agnets-1465585 (Artificial spleen)..

The issue with ebola and marburg is getting it shut down fast enough, so that it doesn't overload the natural immune system, and the damage to internal organs. The dialysis techniques for kidney, and the artificial spleen are good tools to keep the body functioning which allows for natural rebuilding and repair. Those types of tools don't exist out in the bush, so the most rapid method to date is to use prophylactic anti-viral chemicals, or very rapid use of an anti-viral before excessive organ damage happens.

[Roisin]

OMG! Here's a video of Obama giving a press conference from Air Force One on the Ebola Crisis while flying to a safe and secure undisclosed location. (just something I threw together... ha, ha).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MHNUHPIqEOM

[Matisse]

The nurse Teresa Romero here in Madrid has much improved this past day and they seem optimistic. They have been administering her with the serum ZMob that they got from Belgium, previously this serum had only been tested on monkeys . It is from the same company that makes ZMapp, but it seems there is no ZMapp available. So far the other 17 people under observation in the hospital are without symptoms and all tests have been negative up to date.

[Abhaya]

http://rt.com/usa/195260-texas-ebola-health-care/

2nd us Ebola case confirmed. Health care employee who worked on 1st Ebola victim.

Really Makes me worry about my wife who is a nurse here in Illinois....

[Roisin]

Interesting that they didn't notify the public until just now about this case when they've been keeping an eye on that individual since Friday. So as things go, now begins the search for those who have come into contact with this health worker at that hospital and I'm sure employee's there must be very concerned that this person was found to be positive for that virus. That entire hospital has just been turned into an enormous petri dish for Ebola, just like what's been going on in Spain.

[Bob]

So the second case confirmed, a nurse in Dallas - according to the reports, had "extensive contact" - CDC saying "violated protocol" in a, hmm, what, face saving measure? They got it ALL under control, again? What's the treatment this time. Tylenol for fever? and adding fluids?

Spin control psychiatrists - a network this morning was using a "spin control psychiatrist" to in a smiling face say we need to continue to "TRUST" our medical doctors.

NIH dr. Anthony Fauci says - even though that nurse was using "personal protection equipment", the person was infected.

As pointed out with the nurse in Spain, who is receiving a Canadian antibody form of treatment (see below note), (and she is getting better are the reports), probably only touched her bare skin when taking off the gloves.. CDC pathogen infection control for Class 4 (highly dangerous) pathogens of which EBOLA is rated as such, says disinfect and have medical doctor supervision managing ALL activities. TOTAL INFECTION CONTROL protocol must be used, not a lackadaisical "wing it" approach being apparently conducted which is allowing for infection spread.. AND that CDC has let hospitals get partially trained is highly alarming.

As was pointed out earlier in this thread, there are many procedures that need to be understood with dealing with a Biological Safety rated pathogen, the highest level is class 4... Ebola and Marburg are class 4 pathogens.

CDC had very documented procedures in how to handle lab experiments to so as to keep them selves safe, and their environment safe. IT IS EXTREMELY CLEAR that they have NOT relayed that data (which was posted here very clearly) about understanding the seriousness of the infection AND the nature of it's spread.

SAFE PROTOCOL MEANS follow, to the letter, disinfect disinfect disinfect even when taking off the protection equipment. CDC has the people shower going in (chemically treated disinfected), shower (IN THE SUIT) going out in the chemical disinfectant.

As the surveys of nurses showed, and their statements: "WE ARE NOT PREPARED", not trained, (possibly with inadequate equipment, for this level grade of pathogen, classed 4) is being punctuated once again.. ANYONE saying they have this understood, that there is nothing to see here just doesn't get what this type of infection is about.

A reverse 911 for 4 blocks surrounding the nurse's home was sent out this morning. At least 1 worker who worked with this nurse is now isolated. It was a very calm voice, no worries, everything is being taken care of.. What was the reason for the reverse 911? To have anybody who may have come in contact with the nurse come forth? The "circles" of contact step has to be performed now, WHO did this nurse have contact with? They will use the logic of ONLY after she developed a fever (presenting) would they consider a "contact" valid. If you walked by her house, chances are, there is ZERO likelihood of catching Ebola from her. If you gave her a hug, look at getting yourself checked.

(multiple news sources, this "news" apparently is now going "viral" at the moment, until the minders suppress it)

NOTE: The Canadian research was done under the leadership of Dr. Gary Kobinger who heads the special pathogens research program at the national laboratory. His team had developed a cocktail of three monoclonal antibodies called ZMAb, the rights to which were recently acquired by LeafBio of San Diego, Calif.

LeafBio is collaborating with Mapp Biopharmaceutical, also of San Diego, which is the maker of ZMapp. That is the product given to Dr. Kent Brantly, who works with the relief organization Samaritan’s Purse, and Nancy Writebol, an American missionary who works with the organization Service in Mission. It was also used in other patients (2 have died), one having infected the Spanish nurse. SO even with zMapp in the system of the Spanish patient, zMapp did NOT stop the virus adequately enough, or the Spanish nurse was infected prior to the patient being treated. Obviously there are a LOT of unknowns in the pathogenity of this particular strain of Ebola-Zaire (which Canada has said IS A UNIQUE variant).. that this virus IS mutating, probably up to much greater than the 300 different variants (as of July).

I am going to recommend again for people who have not seen Bill Ryan's post in this forum, in his thread, to please take a look and read the PDF. It is informative, even though it is written as a "story", it is based on important data that should be understood.

[sheme]

BBC are running this as a News Flash

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29587803

[Bob]

Good choice of article there Sheme - tnx..

POINTING OUT the differences of what has lead to health care workers infections:

HAS PROVIDED MINIMAL PROTECTION - (no breathing protection, only a minimal mask)




ABSOLUTELY INSANE level of checking a potential case: (zero breathing protection skin protection, minimal gloves used for minimal levels of bacteria, not viruses in this example), health care workers die with this level of "protection" dealing with class 4 pathogens.



PROPER LEVEL of dealing with the patient, dealing with the contaminated tissue samples, dealing with contaminated tools to take blood, etc..

The above "hot suit" image shows PROPER PROTECTION BEING USED...

What's wrong, people listening to spin, nothing to see here, it's just a "flu" ?

This shows how our security people are "protected" (nonsense) - the first line of defence to screen to "prevent" people who have potentially an infection from traveling and potentially spreading it

How first line of defence happens on the "front lines" - temperature screening using an optical thermometer, which IS NOT recommended by the FDA (who says a mercury thermometer, or a contact type of digital, or color changing contact strip, would be the only one to be relied on, not an optical, the optical was meant to be a BACKUP system, and has loosely (and erroneously) been interpreted to mean use infra-red optical (touch free) systems first.. definitely a mis-communications there in first line screening - it's been pointed out thermometer screening can be defeated very easily, or accidentally). BUT that would put a crimp in "BUSINESS", if "PROPER" types of temperature monitoring techniques were used, which some financial reporting sites have said, (i.e. travel bans) would harm the ECONOMIES of many businesses and countries.. Screening SLOWS down and inconveniences travelers.. get them through FAST onto their flight... (gees louise..) hmmm

The questions being asked, are these airport screenings just for show?

[Rocky_Shorz]

news is still forgetting to mention the first 3 cases, this is actually the 5th in US including the first 3 doctors

[Bob]

CDC is now saying they will do "confirmation" testing of the Dallas Nurse.. With the hospital REFUSING again to release the patient's name.. (so again people are not being given proper alerts so that they can do their own due diligence).. confirmation testing means they now have a NEW SAMPLE of the virus to see how it has mutated. Is it a better bioweapon now or worse is a very easy question to ask, what did the mutation (if any) provide or offer to their researchers?? KEEP that in perspective what EACH infection blood sample provides - specimens .. That technique(*) of using samples of viruses which made it through the human (or primate) is what the Soviet union used to improve their weaponized strain of Marburg. (historical data is available on that, and has been mentioned in this thread).

NIH's Fauci, the pleader for spin control comes on network news to assure us, nothing to see here, everything is perfectly under control - (waves hand and smiles).. It was unfortunate, using the words, "a breach of protocol" - understand that yet? He referred to 1976 studies, totally ignoring what is happening with this new strain. His hand waving was interesting to watch, using head nods to the audience so that they would "agree" with him.. He says well, you know, it most likely (he has a crystal ball you know), she did something wrong taking off her "protective gear".. Fauci refuses to acknowledge their own CDC RULES about how to deal with a class 4 biohazard...

He says, well we will do contact tracing, you know, that is the way to find out who else she came in contact with - be assured nothing to see here, this is nothing to be alarmed about.. We are just going to ask the community of nations around the world to step up to the plate and help build hospitals in Africa (totally diverting the subject of the interview)..

So he says we are not going to recommend shutting down travel.. Again, he goes against MANY very intelligent people who have noted, many congress too have said so.. that STOP incoming flights from hot zone countries... MILITARY will already be screened adequately, and DO NOT stop shipments TO the hotzone countries.. What is so hard to understand about that? Stop INCOMING, unless the person is absolutely guaranteed to be clear of infection.. There is a 100% quarantine policy about importing animals where there is ANY infection in the herd.. China with bird infections happened killed off entire flocks, in farms of such infections.. So it was not just quarantine, it was eradicate.. Simply amazing the POLICY errors happening..

This is insanity, not following improper quarantine techniques. It is easy to do direction control of travel from hot-zone areas.

Australia btw, has said hell no we won't go to West Africa, refusing to send doctors to the area. Maybe there is some really good sense there? They did say they will send aid/financial assistance. They explained their reason for not sending doctors, "we don't have the capacity to evacuate our doctors if they get sick.." smart way to say it seems, that the situation is impossible at the moment to deal with as-is..

Note (*) -

Nobody pays attention to "bio-amplification". I first learned of this in 1968, the methods used to create antibiotics that would be able to deal with, more effectively, bacterial or spore pathogens. There is a dark side to that though, which scared the bejezus out of me when I connected the deeper dots..

The technique is pretty simple.. Find the medium that the bug will live on, plate it (the plating technique refers to a petri dish "plate", into the medium, incubate it (at the proper temperature) and then create a highly unique cluster of pathogens in the culture medium...

The next step is then to inoculate the petri dish with some "treatment method", and watch and see what survives or doesn't... (reference http://www.faculty.virginia.edu/evol..._Web_Page.html talks about how to make antibiotic resistant bacteria)...

This is where it gets REALLY interesting... there will be SOME mutations of the pathogen which survive.. What the pathologist microbiologist then does, is capture that cluster, and place that captured mutation in a new petri dish, and incubate once again, thereby amplifying the pathogen.. (gaining more pathogen which survived the "treatment")..

Then they try the treatment again with the amplified strain.. AND if there are any pathogen survivors, to the treatment, meaning the bug didn't die, they capture THOSE BUGS and again repeat the plating steps.. After a while they have a strain (mutations) which have NO CURE, no treatment... and that becomes their bioweapon..

Think about that when you look at samples from virus infections being sent to a repository, those who survive and those who die, those who die despite a known proven treatment (like zMapp), and connect those dots, what could be happening.. the ultimate petri-dish is the human.

[sheme]

I think they have already mutated this virus they await the moment for it's release, every thing is about timing. WE know they are not incompetent , and yet they behave like first year auxiliary staff- correction -the students would not be this stupid- they are just taking orders .