Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

[Bob]

Summary from previous page
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-weapon/page32

Cleveland and Dallas schools shut down and some parents are doing the 21 day quarantine

A key doctor from Dallas testifying before committee with CDC saying virus particles CAN remain in the air (droplet form, up to an hour and bypass hospital masks)

The second nurse infected from Thomas Duncan who died is transferred out of the sloppy hospital and moved to Emory in Atlanta - Amber says she told them she had a low grade fever (CDC) said no problem go fly, knowing she was one who worked on Duncan and could be at risk.

Differences between no protection and full protection

Frontier Airlines says in a memo, no worries, we will never transport a person with ebola cause we don't connect to west africa..

UK News saying, er, poor batting average US - 1 death two infected..

Exposed neck - Dallas

[Bob]

Getting the FIRST NURSE Nancy Pham out of DALLAS 'hospital'


http://www.wbtw.com/story/26804546/1...nt-to-maryland and
http://www.wncn.com/story/26800165/c...efore-congress

DALLAS (AP) - The first Dallas nurse to have contracted Ebola after treating an infected Liberian man is scheduled to be moved to a specialized medical facility in Maryland.

Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins says 26-year-old Nina Pham will be taken Thursday from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas to the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland.

The NIH facility has one of four biocontainment units in the United States. Texas Health officials said Wednesday that Pham was in good condition and it wasn't immediately clear why she's being moved.

[Bob]

Fox news live, of all groups, reporting that Nurse Amber actually DID HAVE SYMPTOMS in Ohio, that she was sick and couldn't attend some wedding preparations.. That is presenting..

So she flew back on that public Frontier Jet, then, while sick and apparently she let folks know in Ohio that she was sick and couldn't attend the wedding preps, she knew she was 'presenting'..

DID she take her temperature BEFORE flying back to DALLAS? Will that question be answered?

She says she did have a temperature, a LOW GRADE FEVER when she left DALLAS for Ohio, getting an ALL CLEAR to fly by CDC. One would assume a nurse knows what a fever temp is or isn't.

N220FR Frontier Airlines Airbus A320-214(WL)


(eer.. oops?)



Update from NBC is saying this:

Vinson visited a "retail establishment," (in Ohio) which the owners closed on Thursday while health sleuths try to figure out if it posed any risk to the public.

Authorities also tracked down the five friends she saw at that time and they have agreed to stay home until they get the all-clear.

Two other family members in Ohio are self-monitoring at home, and Vinson's mother is under supervision in Dallas, where she flew to be with her daughter.

Found this on "The Conservative Tree House" (source)

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/CEC...0695733029.mp4 - an interesting <15 second statement..

meanwhile
Dallas officials saying, er.. HOW about we look at declaring a disaster.. What that will do is allow Federal Funds to get to the community, how fast it is unknown.. (look at Hurricane Sandy, or Hurricane Katrina how long funds took to get there..) FEMA could be activated during a disaster.. Does DALLAS want FEMA involved, or are they noting something public is not being told?

[Bob]

MADRID, Oct 16 (Reuters) - Spanish authorities reported four new patients with suspected Ebola symptoms on Thursday,

including a feverish passenger who started shaking on an Air France flight to Madrid and
a Spanish priest who had recently been in Liberia.

Three of the cases were in the capital and the fourth in the Canary Islands,

Health source said two other people were admitted to hospital for precautionary monitoring.

The priest, who arrived in Spain on Oct.11, was being taken to hospital after developing a fever,
one of the symptoms of the disease, the Spanish government's Ebola committee said.

He was from the same religious order as two other Spanish priests who died in Madrid in recent weeks
after contracting the deadly virus in West Africa, one in Liberia and one in Sierra Leone, they said.

Spain has been on high alert for Ebola after a nurse who cared for the two deceased priests in Madrid,
Teresa Romero, became the first person outside Africa to become infected in the current outbreak.

Her case prompted recriminations over how prepared the country was to deal with the disease.

The rest of the article is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reu...ht-Madrid.html

[Bob]

NIH Maryland - Nancy Pham, from Dallas will be treated further here.

http://www.nih.gov/about/visitor/

ref: http://search.nih.gov/search?utf8=%E...&commit=Search

[Roisin]

Tom Frieden Admits Officials Don't Know How Ebola Transmission Occurred

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden admitted to a House panel on Thursday that officials still don’t know exactly how two nurses contracted Ebola from Thomas Eric Duncan, the first man to be diagnosed with the virus in the U.S."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...ampaign=buffer


They know how they contacted it.

[Bob]

Posted by Roisin (here)
Tom Frieden Admits Officials Don't Know How Ebola Transmission Occurred

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden admitted to a House panel on Thursday that officials still don’t know exactly how two nurses contracted Ebola from Thomas Eric Duncan, the first man to be diagnosed with the virus in the U.S."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...ampaign=buffer


They know how they contacted it.

There has been a little bit of public mention that National Guard may be asked to build special treatment centers designed for Ebola.. (Liberia)

The FEMA stuff comes to mind.. for local disaster "management" -

But, there was mention of an Ebola Czar - similar to the Energy Czar to be the "oversight"..

NIH reports this:

Later today, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Clinical Center expects to admit the first nurse who contracted the Ebola virus at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital while providing patient care to the index patient who died of Ebola. The nurse is being admitted to the Special Clinical Studies Unit of the NIH Clinical Center at the request of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. She will receive state-of-the-art care in this high-level containment facility, which is one of a small number of such facilities in the United States.

The NIH Clinical Center’s Special Clinical Studies Unit is specifically designed to provide high-level isolation capabilities and is staffed by infectious diseases and critical care specialists. The unit staff is trained in strict infection control practices optimized to prevent spread of potentially transmissible agents such as Ebola. No additional details about the patient are being shared at this time.

NIH is taking every precaution to ensure the safety of our patients, NIH staff, and the public.

About the National Institutes of Health (NIH): NIH, the nation's medical research agency, includes 27 Institutes and Centers and is a component of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

NIH is the primary federal agency conducting and supporting basic, clinical, and translational medical research, and is investigating the causes, treatments, and cures for both common and rare diseases.

Executive Order: National Guard to Liberia? - http://eyesopenreport.com/executive-...rd-to-liberia/

"The sources said that eight engineers and logistical specialists from the Guard, both active-duty and reservists, would probably be included in the first deployment.

"They are expected to help build 17 Ebola treatment centers, with 100 beds apiece. The sources said that no decision had been made.

"Defense Department officials told NBC that the executive order is necessary to ‘speed the deployments, and would allow the president to send additional forces as needed’."

{ Thought joining the National Guard was a safe move? (hmmm) }

[Rollo]

In Russia existed labs called Biopreparat established in 1973 as a "civilian" continuation of earlier Soviet bio-warfare programs.

Biopreparat was a system of 18, nominally civilian, research laboratories and centers scattered chiefly around European Russia, in which a small army of scientists and technicians developed biological weapons such as anthrax, Ebola, Marburg virus, plague, Q fever, Junin virus, glanders, and smallpox.

Probably during the soviet union viruses like Ebola were really bio-weapons created to fight the enemy but what we see in the MSM today is totally different scenario.

[Bob]

Why Nebraska

Back during the 9/11 days, a Doctor in Nebraska says, we better have a way to deal with biological disasters so he sets out to design a Class-4 level facility - eventually to have his special wing called: "Maurer’s Folly," to sleight Harold Maurer, former chancellor of the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

The facility was designed to handle up to 10 patients infected with Ebola, or Marburg, or Smallpox - and was designed not for CDC personnel, but for the general public..

10 at a time is better than 2 or 3 at a time that the other CDC facilities are set to handle, so if one want's to get access to a public facility that can handle the class-4 infections, The University of Nebraska Medical Center is where one would want to go..

Jane M. Orient, M.D. had been called to report to special committee and help to enlighten people on the Hill about the real story behind Ebola, the droplet transfer potential and to remind officials hospitals around the country are un-prepared to deal with Ebola pathogens.

read more on the Nebraska facility here - http://www.unl.edu/ucomm/ucomm/2000/...2100anews.html

[Bob]

Akron Ohio - the commercial shop where Nurse Amber visited

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index...osed_afte.html

a man in a suit exited only to say that the store was closed and that Vinson had visited over the weekend.

The man said Vinson, 29, who was in Akron visiting family last weekend, was looking for bridesmaid dresses at the store. He did not know when the store might reopen.

Cameras from Channel 5 and the Akron Beacon Journal were allowed into the store, while other media were left outside.

meanwhile

news sources reporting officials are feeling that nurse Amber Vinson when she traveled TO Cleveland was ill.. Passengers who were on the flight from Dallas to Cleveland are being asked now to report, if they exhibit any symptoms.. The person sitting next to nurse Amber was told to stay home, self quarantine.. take temp twice a day..

CDC insists that they within an older report based on ONE STUDY about surface contamination, that they are using as their "guidance to hospitals" explaining that Ebola is not really a concern, manageable... reading it one can see why hospitals had not been paying attention - "lack of updated current information and studies.." NIH parrots the CDC data.

reports: http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/inf...endations.html

and

http://www.nih.gov/health/ebola.htm#/121230

In the only study to assess contamination of the patient care environment during an outbreak, virus was not detected in any of 33 samples collected from sites that were not visibly bloody. However, virus was detected on a blood-stained glove and bloody intravenous insertion site.3 There is no epidemiologic evidence of Ebolavirus transmission via either the environment or fomites that could become contaminated during patient care (e.g., bed rails, door knobs, laundry). However, given the apparent low infectious dose, potential of high virus titers in the blood of ill patients, and disease severity, higher levels of precaution are warranted to reduce the potential risk posed by contaminated surfaces in the patient care environment.

and

http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/2007IP/2007ip_part2.html#e

this below from that document, is a big geek-ese procedural snowjob, but pay attention to the TESTING using RSV (respiratory syncytial virus), which is NOTHING LIKE EBOLA; they describe below using face shields for RSV, not Ebola..

For EBOLA they say WORK IN A CLASS-IV (total body shield and "shop" air, from the facility, not open masks, not open shields) (this was cited earlier in this thread from their own training manual illustrating the differences between class 1-4 biosafety facility and standards..)

II.E.3.b. Goggles, face shields
Guidance on eye protection for infection control has been published 759. The eye protection chosen for specific work situations (e.g., goggles or face shield) depends upon the circumstances of exposure, other PPE used, and personal vision needs. Personal eyeglasses and contact lenses are NOT considered adequate eye protection (www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/eye/eye-infectious.html). NIOSH states that, eye protection must be comfortable, allow for sufficient peripheral vision, and must be adjustable to ensure a secure fit. It may be necessary to provide several different types, styles, and sizes of protective equipment.

Indirectly-vented goggles with a manufacturer's anti-fog coating may provide the most reliable practical eye protection from splashes, sprays, and respiratory droplets from multiple angles. Newer styles of goggles may provide better indirect airflow properties to reduce fogging, as well as better peripheral vision and more size options for fitting goggles to different workers. Many styles of goggles fit adequately over prescription glasses with minimal gaps. While effective as eye protection, goggles do not provide splash or spray protection to other parts of the face.

The role of goggles, in addition to a mask, in preventing exposure to infectious agents transmitted via respiratory droplets has been studied only for RSV.

Reports published in the mid-1980s demonstrated that eye protection reduced occupational transmission of RSV 760, 761. Whether this was due to preventing hand-eye contact or respiratory droplet-eye contact has not been determined.

However, subsequent studies demonstrated that RSV transmission is effectively prevented by adherence to Standard plus Contact Precautions and that for this virus routine use of goggles is not necessary 24, 116, 117, 684, 762.

It is important to remind healthcare personnel that even if Droplet Precautions are not recommended for a specific respiratory tract pathogen, protection for the eyes, nose and mouth by using a mask and goggles, or face shield alone, is necessary when it is likely that there will be a splash or spray of any respiratory secretions or other body fluids as defined in Standard Precautions Disposable or non-disposable face shields may be used as an alternative to goggles 759. As compared with goggles, a face shield can provide protection to other facial areas in addition to the eyes.

Face shields extending from chin to crown provide better face and eye protection from splashes and sprays; face shields that wrap around the sides may reduce splashes around the edge of the shield.

Removal of a face shield, goggles and mask can be performed safely after gloves have been removed, and hand hygiene performed.

The ties, ear pieces and/or headband used to secure the equipment to the head are considered "clean" and therefore safe to touch with bare hands. The front of a mask, goggles and face shield are considered contaminated (Figure).

You can see why the Nurses are upset AND why this level of DATA being circulated to hospitals around the world by CDC is compromising health care workers - IT IS INSANE to use RSV as the comparison data for dealing with EBOLA..

THIS type of mis-information is what is being said, nothing to worry about, eh?.. This instructional data, SAFETY DATA, deals with the wrong virus.. RSV was used as the example to create "alleged safety" standards to teach and inform health care workers, and the hospitals, how to use the recommended protection equipment..

REMEMBER CDC says to in-house researchers, CLASS-IV (4) procedures and equipment, nothing less is safe..

http://www.cdc.gov/HAI/settings/outp...ecautions.html


ONE more example of infection control INSANITY in the CDC document - look at this logic..

Removal of a face shield, goggles and mask can be performed safely after gloves have been removed , and hand hygiene performed.

The face shield has been splashed with Ebola.. they say take your gloves off, then remove your shield.. NOW Homer Simpson would know better... (dohh...) and now what is on your hands when you contact the face shield because your gloves are off?

Lastly, let's look at the goggles (shield) used in Africa and quite possibly in clinics and/or hospitals because this is considered the "EBOLA SUIT" - pay attention to the STRAPS that CDC says is clean..

The ties, ear pieces and/or headband used to secure the equipment to the head are considered "clean" and therefore safe to touch with bare hands.

and below (reports from AP & ABC) notice the exposed neck, and the strap on the mask is exposed.

and with Mr. Duncan -

Shockingly, some supervisors reportedly told nurses that they didn't need protective masks at all

Read more on the face shield scandal or no masks: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-staffers.html (Airborne-Gate Scandal)

Proper suit (example below) still needs a CHEMICAL disinfectant wash-down after use and before opening -

[Bob]

And the "Ebola Czar" that we predicted the other day has now been put into place.

A person who had been near one of the Texas Dallas medicos treating Mr. Dunan, who should have not been on public transport, has now traveled on a cruise boat, outside of Belize - in voluntary quarantine - CDC says, the likelihood is next to nil that there is any infection of ebola present.

“Confirmed with representatives of the Ministry of Health (MOH) that they have indeed received a report that there is at least one passenger on board the cruise ship, Carnival Magic, showing symptoms similar to that of the Ebola virus.

According to the report made to MOH, the person exhibiting the symptoms did not come ashore today.

The ship is reportedly carrying 3652 passengers and a total population of 4633 persons.

“The Carnival Magic departed from Galveston Texas on Sunday, October 12 arrived in Mahogany Bay, Honduras on Wednesday October 15 and arrived in Belize, Thursday October 16.

This is how the local news in Belize reported what was transpiring - (this will be looked into for more data as it transpires)..

Reports tonight are that two individuals possibly infected with the Ebola virus are in Belizean waters.

Local TV station Channel 7 monitored in the capital City Of Belmopan tonight, reported having credible reports that a couple from a Texas-based cruise ship presently anchored off Belize City, is on a ship tender, unable to return to the cruise ship, while being refused entry to Belize City to catch an air ambulance awaiting at the International Airport to take them to the their country of origin, the U.S.A.

The television station in its broadcast tonight said Belize health authorities contacted tonight have so far refused to deny or confirm the report. (see their comments in the above quote)

The patient exhibiting Ebola symptoms has been confirmed to be a nurse at a Dallas hospital traveling with her husband.

The government of Belize took a strong stand saying NO-ONE suspected of having Ebola will be allowed on their shores..

"In a press conference held last weak, Belize’s Ministry of Health stated that in the event of an outbreak of Ebola in Belize, no patient would be allowed into the commercial capital Belize City, where most of the Belize government cabinet officials reside.

"The MOH stated that the government hospital, the Karl Heuesner Memorial Hospital has but one Intensive Care Unit and they would not allow this to be overrun with Ebola patients. Belize is a a very poor country on the Yucatan Peninsula that depends to a large extent on tourism and grants from Venezuela for its foreign exchange income. Belize City is currently the main port of call for cruise ships."

(Source local news stations, Belize)

Another source, the Washington Post, 02:30 am local says this:

The Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital employee and a partner boarded the ship Oct. 12 in Galveston, Tex., before the CDC updated the requirement for active monitoring, the State Department said in a statement. Although the worker is healthy, the U.S. government is working with the cruise line to get the ship back to America “out of an abundance of caution.”

The employee, who has not been named, did not come into direct contact with Duncan, the first patient diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. However, he or she may have been exposed to his clinical specimens, the State Department said.

This is how another news source (NBC) a couple hours ago have obtained a little more data.. some "information" sources are saying supervisor, some saying a nurse, some saying just a "lab technician" - showing how confusing obtaining information when there is a clampdown apparently in-place, about receiving details.. (new policy from the Czar?)

A Texas hospital lab supervisor who may have handled fluid samples from Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan is on a Carnival cruise ship in the Caribbean and has been quarantined on board, officials said Friday.

The Texas Health Presbyterian hospital employee, who set sail from Galveston on Oct. 12, did not have "direct contact" with Duncan and “has not had a fever or demonstrated any symptoms of illness,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

Two nurses at the hospital, where Duncan died Oct. 8, have been infected by the virus - including one whose travel on a commercial flight to Cleveland prompted concerns over authorities’ handling of the outbreak in the United States.

The Carnival Magic was being held off the coast of Belize Friday until the lab worker could be removed and taken back to the U.S.

"At this time, the guest remains in isolation on board the ship and is not deemed to be a risk to any guests or crew," Carnival said in a statement.

"It is important to reiterate that the individual has no symptoms and has been isolated in an extreme abundance of caution." The Belize Government confirmed it was in touch with U.S. authorities.

Psaki's statement noted that the worker had set sea before the Center for Disease Control stepped up its monitoring program.

"It has been 19 days since the passenger may have processed the since-deceased patient’s fluid samples,” the statement said.

So if this person is not sick in one report, sick in another report, quarantined in another report, stuck on a tender boat in another report, being transported back to the US, being kept onboard the Carnival ship in another report - - - what is being sent across the wires currently - this type of behavior has appeared within 10 hours of the new Ebola Czar being placed in power to "oversee" it all..

Apparently their 'solution' is to MUDDY THE WATERS to cause the WORLD to look at discrediting any real information sources, 'cept "theirs".

Watch for this type of behaviour ramping up globally now.

[Hervé]

See me now... now you don't...

Ebola scare: Man dies on trans-Atlantic flight to JFK after vomiting

Published time: October 17, 2014 05:11
Edited time: October 17, 2014 06:42
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People make their way at the international arrival terminal at JFK airport in New York. (Reuters/Eduardo Munoz)

A male passenger who died after vomiting on a trans-Atlantic flight from Nigeria to New York sparked panic he could be carrying the Ebola virus. However, initial tests on the 63-year-old man show that he tested negative to the virus.

The man had boarded a flight at Lagos Airport in Nigeria, which was bound for New York’s John F. Kennedy Airport. However, once airborne, the man complained of vomiting during the flight and was sick in his seat. He died sometime before the plane landed at JFK, leaving around 150 passengers worried as to why he had passed away.

Upon the plane's arrival at the terminal at around 6am local time, the door was left open connecting the plane to the airport building, “which a lot of the first responders found alarming,” the source added, which was reported by the New York Post. Medical officials at the scene conducted a cursory exam and alleviated fears that the Ebola virus was present, according to a local police source.

However, Republican Congressman Peter King was so alarmed at lack of scrutiny within the airport for dealing with a potential Ebola case, he wrote a letter to the Federal Department of Homeland Security, demanding that airport officials should receive better training and there should be much tougher protocols in place for dealing with possible cases of the virus.

A passenger wears a mask as he exits JFK International Airport in New York. (Reuters/Eduardo Munoz)

King added that personnel from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) boarded the plane after it had landed to examine the body of the passenger, however, he called the whole process “alarming.”

“It was what I was told a cursory examination. The Port Authority cops and personnel from Customs and Border Protection were there, and they were told there was no danger because the person did not have Ebola,” King said, according to the New York Post.

“But their concern was, how could you tell so quickly? And what adds to the concern is how wrong the CDC has been over the past few weeks,” King added.

Screenings for the Ebola virus have been in place at JFK and other airports around the United States since October 11, with travelers arriving from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone - where the virus is most prevalent - being targeted.

Full article: http://rt.com/usa/196696-ebola-newyork-vomiting-plane/

[Bob]

No Medical Training - No experience in Health oversight, but he's the Savior..

Klain is a former chief of staff to both Vice President Joe Biden and former Vice President Al Gore. He left the vice president's office in 2011.

He is now the president of Case Holdings and serves as the general counsel for Revolution, an investment organization.

Obama signaled his openness to appointing an Ebola "czar" Thursday night, telling reporters that it "may be appropriate" to elevate an additional person to coordinate the U.S. response.

Klain will report directly to White House National Security Advisor Susan Rice and the president’s Homeland Security Advisor Lisa Monaco.

He is tasked with protecting Americans from the disease and making sure the response is coordinated with the U.S. effort to stop Ebola in West Africa.

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President Obama had been faced with pressure from critics that argued that the nation's hospitals are not prepared for an outbreak of the virus. So of course a non-medical financial manager is put in place to make sure everything gets done properly.. Former Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson is a bit livid that a non-medical trained oversight is being installed.

Ron Klain shown above left. - A former White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain: Klain, made famous in the 2008 HBO Movie Recount, was Chief of Staff to President Al Gore. He was be the reader’s eyes into the inner workings of the Gore White House. Klain is a political pragmatist and D.C. Insider. His perspective will be in favor of the President and Democrats, though he won’t sugar coat things.

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Anybody recall what the job of the US Surgeon General is?

The Surgeon General oversees the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (USPHS), an elite group of more than 6,800 uniformed officer public health professionals working throughout the Federal government whose mission is to protect, promote, and advance the health of our Nation. Additionally, the Office of the Surgeon General is the headquarters for the Civilian Volunteer Medical Reserve Corps, a national network of more than 200,000 volunteers committed to improving the public health, emergency response, and resiliency of their communities.

The Surgeon General is nominated by the President of the United States with advice and consent of the United States Senate for a four-year term of office. The Office of the Surgeon General is part of the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Health in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

Rear Admiral Boris D. Lushniak, MD, MPH serves as Acting Surgeon General, and Rear Admiral Scott F. Giberson, BSPharm, MPH serves as Acting Deputy Surgeon General.

Would one suppose the above MD's don't want to come anywhere near the situation, but an inexperienced medically, investment manager would go for it, not knowing what he is getting into? How odd.. (baaaaa.....)

[avid]

Apologies if previously posted, however, there may be a mix-up of symptoms, with an aggressive TB virus.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/16/325940/

Concerns Regarding The Ebola Virus
“We saw a gigantic worm like-structure — gigantic by viral standards. It’s a very unusual shape for a virus.To some it might be considered wormlike, to others serpentine.” … Peter Piot
… by Dr. Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.
Referenced by Jeff Smith, Science Editor, Veterans Today
The CDC recently declared:
“Diagnosing Ebola in a person who has been infected for only a few days is difficult, because the early symptoms, such as fever, are nonspecific to Ebola infection and are seen often in patients with more commonly occurring diseases, such as malaria and typhoid fever.”
Only a sin of omission then would explain why anyone or any group would not want to specifically mention the most commonly occurring cause of infectious death in Africa — tuberculosis — whose sky-high rates in West Africa make Ebola look like a dropper-full of water squeezed into the Mississippi.
If by October, 2014, Ebola had laid claim to what some say is 3,000-plus deaths since its February outbreak, certainly this ought to be weighed in the light of the approximately 600,000 Africans killed by TB in the same time-frame.
Furthermore, although TB incidence is decreasing globally, incidence rates are increasing in most of West Africa1 — ground zero for the current Ebola outburst. Just as curiously, almost half of all TB cases in the West African Ebola zone are caused by an unusual, yet just as deadly member of tubercular family,Mycobacterium africanum — a strain of tuberculosis exclusive to West Africa, which is fast becoming a microbe of great public — and now possibly global concern.
Surely the CDC is aware that there is not a sign or symptom of Ebola, including its hemorrhagic tendencies that cannot be found in acute disseminated miliary (blood-bourne) tuberculosis, once called “galloping consumption” — the single most feared form of the disease ever. And most likely it is also aware that such tuberculosis has its own viral-like forms, some of which can simulate the Ebola. Such viral TB is generally acknowledged to be TB’s preferred form — as a survival strategy to storm any inclement conditions the microbe might find itself in.2
Then why did the CDC not mention TB, by name, in their short-list of possibilities that could cause Ebola-like symptoms? If such oversight stopped there it would be unremarkable, but it seems to have been carried over in the very design of the most recent diagnostic tests issued to detect Ebola.

The whole article is very informative, and the repercussions of ignoring the potentiality of the spread of TB, via germs on blankets from imported central American 'refugees' etc is vast. Getting 'Ebola' and an aggressive TB virus mixed-up could be plausible. Similar symptoms, visible blood loss....

What a mess.....

[Chanlo23]

Posted by Bob (here)
... So if this person is not sick in one report, sick in another report, quarantined in another report, stuck on a tender boat in another report, being transported back to the US, being kept onboard the Carnival ship in another report - - - what is being sent across the wires currently - this type of behavior has appeared within 10 hours of the new Ebola Czar being placed in power to "oversee" it all.. Apparently their 'solution' is to MUDDY THE WATERS to cause the WORLD to look at discrediting any real information sources, 'cept "theirs". Watch for this type of behaviour ramping up globally now.

Following the latest reports of people exposed walking around potentially exposing 1000's of others, three more reports were in Texas newspapers today:

• http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/us...pgtype=article Inside nurse reports on real conditions at hospital in Dallas.
• http://kxan.com/2014/10/16/ut-regent...fing-on-ebola/ UT Regents meeting to discuss ebola, say what?
• http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local...bola/17431937/ So this explains why the UT regents met about it. As a UT employee, I would find it interesting to know how many of the kids, staff, faculty on campus have been exposed to the UT student they are 'monitoring'. I doubt if that will be hitting the news any time soon.

There were several other reports in the news today on this or that person who might have been exposed, may have endangered others, plans to close all schools or businesses where such people visited from "an abundance of caution". No clue which reports are 'real' and which are speculation as there does not appear to be much clarity or 'proof' being offered.

It's clear the news and information are being spun, but its still too early to tell exactly WHAT the end game is, and what the percentage of truth:lie truly exists.

[Bob]

Update - Mexico now says to Carnival - STAY AWAY you cannot dock

News is confirming it is a lab supervisor, she left Sunday from Galveston Texas for the trip on the cruise ship.

Passengers are saying, they are not being told about it being an Ebola alert. BUT that they will have to return to Galveston because nobody will let them land.

Possibly at some point reference will be made, that the US should remember that, that Mexico refused to provide help - if and when Mexico requires viral assistance they may see feet dragging and borders being closed.. suppose?

Belize has already now sealed its fate ECONOMICALLY now refusing a cruise ship - Belize economy lives off cruise travel - of which it depends. Cruise ship businesses know they will never receive help, and Belize just cut their own throats, economically, saying GO AWAY to a ship in distress - NOBODY refuses a ship, that is a violation of code of conduct.. Bad bad move Belize..

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PSYOPS - never let a good opportunity to bring forth a study of human behavior -
Airplane incident
Airport incident
Cruise ship incident

If anyone were to be studying human behavior and "driving/steering" it sure seems either there is a whole bunch of stupid going on, with health care workers who would know better, doing things like taking trips where many others would be potentially put at risk..

The thing is, the disease is real.. HOW the psyops component behind it is being used SHOULD be looked at carefully.. Who stands to gain by more restriction to travel? Who would be more gladly to accept vaccinations putting a LIVE but diminished Ebola virus in their body (where no long term studies had been performed?) Who would be reminding us "do you have your flu shot yet?"

The disease is real, it is mutating, however there ARE antivirals for it and many other viruses, which that subject IS being buried as rapidly as it is brought forth..

We can only assume the psyops characteristics, the "psyops" masters' plans would suffer if there was a way to put-out (quench) the infection without needing constant controls on the People..

[Chanlo23]

Posted by Bob (here)
...PSYOPS - never let a good opportunity to bring forth a study of human behavior -
Airplane incident, Airport incident, Cruise ship incident

You forgot university and multiple hospital incident(s) ... And, with the different 'demographics', you have also studies on a doctor, reporter, nurse, businessman, student with mixed gender data. Discussions (and/or real thing) of business, cruise line, airline, and school closures have taken place.

Who gains if folks can not travel, do business, be educated, receive medical treatment, and have no one that actually KNOWS what is REALLY happening?

[Bob]

More on the Carnival Ship - "Magic"

"Ebola Scare creates Utter Panic on ship.."

There we go the test that someone wanted, see how >4000 people, heck why stop with only 130 plus people on a plane, go for a ship at sea...react... hmmm

This reminds me of the Skinner box - http://psychology.about.com/od/sinde...skinnerbox.htm

Developed by B. F. Skinner, a Skinner box is a chamber that contains a bar or key that an animal can press or manipulate in order to obtain food or water as a type of reinforcement. The Skinner box also had a device that recorded each response provided by the animal as well as the unique schedule of reinforcement that the animal was assigned.

The design of Skinner boxes can vary depending upon the type of animal and the experimental variables. The box is a chamber that includes at least one lever, bar, or key that the animal can manipulate. When the lever is pressed, food, water, or some other type of reinforcement might be dispensed. Other stimuli can also be presented including lights, sounds, and images. In some instances, the floor of the chamber may be electrified.

What exactly was the purpose of a Skinner box?

Using the device researchers could carefully study behavior in a very controlled environment.

Crew lines up with disinfectant !

"The chaos started this morning when there was an announcement on the ship’s intercom saying "that someone who worked in the lab who handled the person in Dallas’s blood was on the ship,” Jon’s brother and fellow passenger Jeremy Malone told ABC. The cruise line said the woman is in isolation on board the ship.

"You're using the same buffet line as someone else, the same waiters, the folks that clean the state rooms. If someone was cleaning their state room and cleaned yours right after, the exposure that you have there to elevators..." he said. "It's very tight quarters and a lot of interaction. It's really difficult to control any type of virus that's on a cruise ship. It's like a floating petri dish. It spreads very rapidly."

[Bob]

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas

This "hospital" reports are saying, has a nasty dark financial problem - This hospital is part of a faith based non-profit network that says with compassion, education, care and responsibility they are able to serve the community with 25 other hospitals in their network - they are in Texas to serve the community.. but they don't run a class 4 pathogen grade isolation unit... therefore..

Another reason for an open-light policy to treat patients with a class 4 pathogen (i.e. filovirus family, Marburg, Ebola) in a proper facility with proper hospital equipment, proper training for staff, proper equipment for safety - to prevent an outbreak.. (outbreak a spread from one to another, and another - a growing outbreak can be exponential or linear depending on quarantine steps or severity of virulence, or how rapidly it kills or incapacitates)

Reputation, it seems to be not going good for the hospital - turns out that the hospital lost a bunch of federal funding - due to patient re-admission, poor treatment history, patients have to come back, not helped... They were fined for the re-admissions, 3 years in a row. Patients are then too scared to go there. The hospital has now lost 2/3ds of its patient care capacity.. Talks are ongoing about shutting this down..

Texas Health Resources is the parent organization who owns this hospital.. they operate 25 other properties in Texas. Experience generally is as has been pointed out by the Nurses, POLICY IS SET by the SUPERVISORS, who ANSWER TO THE PARENT COMPANY, who says this is the bottom line how expense and profit are going to be made.. COST CUTTING skimping is typically how it is done. Was that the reason here why this whole episode started? (they have a nice slick PR piece on their website to assure people, "nothing to see here, move along...") helping people to understand, it is all under control.

(above Barclay Berdan - FACHE, is chief executive officer (CEO) of Texas Health Resources, one of the largest faith-based, nonprofit health systems in the United States and the largest in North Texas in terms of patients served. )

So.. Was it all about COST CUTTING? Was it to put some $$$ in somebody's pocket, or back into the coffer's in the parent company? Was it about not thinking about the risk the rest of the community? Is this happening with other hospitals run by this company?

Attempting to find out WHY this hospital didn't do the right things; the nurses knew they were being told wrong incorrect data and apparently they tried to do something only to have been told, NO - the supervisors apparently citing WRONG incorrect CDC data as to how to treat a disease.. (wrongly), and the buck kept being passed, possibly with the ultimate owners saying something related to save money where ever possible.. suppose that was it?

(CNN news for the source of this data)

[Bob]

WHO says - "oops" - they bungled how to deal with this - CDC director says "oops" sorry about that...

(numerous sources, WHO statements, CDC statement)

People die.. Opps? due to mis-management, publishing outdated information? In-adequate equipment, supplies? Front line people, doctors, nurses saying something is really wrong here..

oops? that is supposed to make it all better?

Texas Health Resources says "Sorry, so deeply sorry..." and that is supposed to resurrect Mr. Duncan? or deal with the issues the sick staff members are having? or the community?

sorry, so sorry? oops?

Well, lets solve this ! PUT IN A GOOD PR manager to deal with it. Good PR always.. (dohh)