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    I am very concerned that we are going to have a Smart Meter installed in the Power box of our home. To make matters worse the power box is on the outside wall of the bedroom that we sleep in and our head is against that wall. The power people are determined that all houses have them installed by April 2015. The EMF's (Electro Magnetic Frequency) are extremely powerful and can cause many health problems!

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    Hi Mauree, I moved into a house that already had a smart meter installed and I had it removed about 6 months ago due to health concerns. My electricity provider is Genesis, after everything I had heard and read I was pretty surprised how helpful they were when I requested a regular meter. I wasn't told that I had to have a smart meter by 2015 (BTW they are now calling them advanced meters - moving away from the word smart). The information given to me was that they would no longer have someone come and read the meter free of charge, I might have to pay to continue with this meter after 2015.

    As a side note, we are going to install solar panels soon and we'll need to install an 'import/export meter' to work along side the solar. When I called to enquire about it the guy on the phone sounded so disappointed when he informed me that unfortunately the import/export meters weren't available as smart meters yet and I would have to have someone come out and read the meter.

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    They installed them here a couple of years ago. Fortunately I was given an advanced notice that I could opt out. I opted out for an additional monthly charge of $5. Thankfully my power usage is low enough I can afford it. The meter reader thanks me for saving his job! Now they are saying they intend to put these things on water and gas meters.

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    Opt out if you can. Apart from the health hazard, these devices are spies and control mechanisms. Just one more tool in the arsenal of the elites. Control, surveillance, and more control!
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    Coming from someone who is hypersensitive to EMR/EMF fields and there seems to be more evidence coming out all the time saying it's harmful, it's a very real threat. However, if you're concerned about your smart meter you should be much more concerned about wireless internet and your mobile phone device, in particular. These all give off much higher readings than your smart meter which by comparison is negligible.

    Almost everywhere you go there is now at the very least a moderate amount of chaotic EMF signals with cell towers and hot spots everywhere. Here in the US, Comcast is now undertaking an initiative to make basically everywhere a wi-fi access point which will certainly only compound the problem. So basically, there's nowhere to run and hide. The best bet is to make your place of living a "sanctuary" in properly measuring not only EMF levels, but electric and magnetic levels as well and undertaking the necessary initiatives to properly shield or replace and move around devices. I'd say it's optimal to have NO wireless internet hooked up at all and instead set-up a home network. In that way, you can at least have a home to go to and grant the body the opportunity to re-balance and repair the daily damage such signals inflict.

    Most people seem to do relatively fine unless they have some sort of illness where they're immune-compromised and not exposed to an extremely large dose for an extended period of time. The symptoms are usually slight and build up overtime, with some people being much more vulnerable than others.

    Some interesting research is people claiming these Wi-fi frequencies act in such a way that prospers growth of infections such as Lyme disease, working in tandem with heavy metals(which many people are filled with) that allows the opportunistic organisms to gain hold in the system, all holding it in place.

    I believe sometime in the near future the whole "wireless revolution" will be exposed for what it really is.

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    Thanks so much for all the replies. The power company is trying to come on strong, but I see it isn't mandatory to have a smart meter , at least not yet, but if the Gov. thinks there is too much opposition then I am sure it will be. Yes I am one of those people who is sensitive to high EMFs unfortunately. The thing is when one is older it becomes harder to stand up to these people!

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    I rent and the homeowner doesn't want to fight the utility company. Here, Smart Meters are mandatory, and they are planning their 'deployment' in the coming year. There is an opt-out to take a Smart Meter that doesn't broadcast, however, it still collects data (I believe wirelessly) and you must pay an extortion fee. Under Fortis BC, there is no option to keep the analogue meter. It is completely outrageous.

    I've been lining walls with emergency blankets that face our neighbour who will eventually have a Smart Meter installed facing us at close proximity. Since refusing a Smart Meter is not an option as is paying the extortion fee, I will be building a Faraday Cage for the one that will be installed on this house.

    We have an EMF meter to determine what we are being exposed to. However, even emergency blankets can't protect against dirty electricity in the walls generated by these meters. Not everyone can afford dirty electricity filters.

    There is no question that this radiation is cumulative and toxic to living organisms.

    We only use a landline and wired internet.

    I have no idea if orgonite can help, but I'll try anything.

    Also, the idea of having all our detailed electrical usage collected by these nefarious groups is extremely distressing let alone knowing how easily the system can be hacked.

    The Internet of Things is yet another 'thing' to be concerned about.

    There are some battles that are being won. Saskatchewan recalled 105,000 Smart Meters and is replacing them with analogue meters -- ending the Smart Meter program in that province. The reason was due to fires started by Smart Meters (any reason is a great reason!).

    Ontario and BC have refused to acknowledge fires started by Smart Meters. Government and utility companies have been 'officially' denying any fires are caused by Smart Meters although there are reports of many fires caused by Smart Meters in both provinces.

    Manitoba has been watching the debacle unfold and have recently decided not to go ahead with the Smart Meter program.

    Keeping up-to-date on the Smart Meter fiasco and seeing the ridiculous battles people are having all over the world with their monopoly utility companies and tyrannical governments, we don't seem to have much choice but to live with it... hopefully temporarily... as outrage continues to grow and more and more people wake up to this crime against humanity.
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    Since turning off our modem overnight I am getting a better sleep.... does that make sense?

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    Quote Posted by Emjay (here)
    Since turning off our modem overnight I am getting a better sleep.... does that make sense?
    Absolutely.

    It's definitely recommended to turn off wireless modems at night.

    It's also best to avoid having anything that needs to be plugged in where you sleep -- including digital clocks.

    The less you have plugged in, the less electromagnetic radiation and dirty electricity you'll have...

    Avoid sleeping over electrical wires and in metal framed beds with coil spring mattresses etc.

    Some of the best sleep I've ever had is out camping in a tent with no electronics around whatsoever.

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    I am very sensitive to radiation and unfortunately we have a smart meter but at least it is on the edge of the property and not attached to the house. We have used Geoclense plugs and stickers for some time but recently the radiation seems to be stronger and we needed something more. I bought a Q-link pendant for myself and that makes quite a difference for me - I am now sleeping much better and feel rested when I get up, and the brain fog has lifted thank goodness! http://qlinkproducts.com/Scripts/products.asp

    But we also needed to protect our living space. After some research, we opted for a 3-cube home system and personal Biosignature pendants from BioGeometry Products http://www.biogeometry.ca
    The difference is truly amazing

    Hope this info helps
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    Thanks Pris.....

    Yes at the same time we took all electric away from the bedroom area, no phone or bedside lamp. We have a torch to light the way if we need it, & should we get an early morning phone call they know to allow it to ring for a while giving me time to get to the phone.
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    Quote Posted by Callista (here)
    I am very sensitive to radiation and unfortunately we have a smart meter but at least it is on the edge of the property and not attached to the house. We have used Geoclense plugs and stickers for some time but recently the radiation seems to be stronger and we needed something more. I bought a Q-link pendant for myself and that makes quite a difference for me - I am now sleeping much better and feel rested when I get up, and the brain fog has lifted thank goodness! http://qlinkproducts.com/Scripts/products.asp

    But we also needed to protect our living space. After some research, we opted for a 3-cube home system and personal Biosignature pendants from BioGeometry Products http://www.biogeometry.ca
    The difference is truly amazing

    Hope this info helps
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    This is very interesting... I've read about these 'Q-Link' products before. My initial feeling towards it is it's a scam because of the cost. That doesn't mean they don't work, but for what you're getting, it seems like a scam to take advantage of people.

    I suspect there's a connection with orgonite so I did a wee bit of checking. And sure enough, some people think that it's all very similar. Some people have good results with the 'Q-Link' products, some don't. Some people have good... even great results with the orgonite... and again, I'm sure some don't.

    Point is, you can make orgonite easily and waaaaay cheaper than buying 'Q-Link' products. So, since I like to save a buck, I'll be experimenting more with orgonite.

    I've already made lots of orgonite -- pyramids, you name it. You can purchase the resin (automotive resin is everywhere, or you can buy the more expensive crystal clear resin but it's a bit more difficult to find) and quartz crystals and metal (like pot scrapers) and metal powder (order online) all quite inexpensively and make a large amount of orgonite -- including pendants all at once for far less than $100.

    Since some people say orgonite works better than 'Q-Link' products, I'd rather 'get a little dirty' and make my own. Although, for myself, I haven't a clue if orgonite actually 'works', I still like them. I wish I had a device that could test them (other than a pendulum ).

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    Hello Pris
    Yes the Q-link is a bit pricey but I am glad I bought it because it definitely works for me. It has a copper coil in it but I have no idea how it works. I haven't tried any organite products so I can't say if they would work for me. I wore the Orgone Personal Protection Pendant http://www.orgoneffectsaustralia.com...ction-pendant/ for some years and found it very good but the Q-link works more powerfully for me. I feel the difference even if I take it off for more than half an hour. Everyone has a different sensitivity so its a bit of trial and error to find out what works for you. You may find this info on organite helpful http://www.orgoneenergy.org/orgone-articles
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    Quote Posted by Callista (here)
    Hello Pris
    Yes the Q-link is a bit pricey but I am glad I bought it because it definitely works for me. It has a copper coil in it but I have no idea how it works. I haven't tried any organite products so I can't say if they would work for me. I wore the Orgone Personal Protection Pendant http://www.orgoneffectsaustralia.com...ction-pendant/ for some years and found it very good but the Q-link works more powerfully for me. I feel the difference even if I take it off for more than half an hour. Everyone has a different sensitivity so its a bit of trial and error to find out what works for you. You may find this info on organite helpful http://www.orgoneenergy.org/orgone-articles
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    Thanks for that... I'm glad that your Q-Link works for you. Btw, I've put copper coils in my orgonite as well -- by themselves AND wound about quartz crystals.

    That's a very curious article. I'm wanting to keep an open mind... however... this whole thing about keeping their so-called 'Orgonium' proprietary sounds like a money rip-off scam. Also, I find their 'proof' lacking. The most troubling part of the article is the heavy use of fear instilling tactics to sell their product(s) -- using words like 'hazardous' and 'harmful' to describe 'regular' orgonite. I'll always be leery about anyone who tries to make money off of other people like this.

    I've not heard of this proprietary 'Orgonium' before, and there are just... so many people that claim their regular, home-made orgonite feels great and works.

    When it comes to regular orgonite, could it be just a placebo effect? Whether it's bunk or not, I give a high level of credence to all the positive reports about it.
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    Hellow Mauree,
    This is what we did and alot of other folks did to keep these criminals from installing one of these nasty things on our houses. Please note that the following letter should be sent to your State power company as Certified mail so you know that they got it. You are not going to give concent. Here you go,


    (your name here)
    c/o(your mailing address here)
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    Power comanys addres = (your physical address here). your city, State [zip-9998 west coast 9997 east coast]


    To: Power company name
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    Certified Mail number:

    NOTICE OF NO CONSENT TO TRESPASS AND SURVEILLANCE, NOTICE OF LIABILITY

    Dear (power company) and all agents, officers, employees, contractors and interested parties,

    If you intend to install a "Smart Meter" or any activity monitoring device at the above address, you and all other parties are hereby denied consent for installation and use of all such device on the above property and installation and use of any activity monitoring device is hereby refused and prohibited. Informed consent is legally required for installation of any surveillance device and any device that will collect and transmit private and personal data to undisclosed and unauthorized parties for undisclosed and unauthorized purposes. Authorization for sharing of personal and private information may only be given by the originator and subject of that information. That authorization is hereby denied and refused with reqard to the above property and all its occupants. "Smart Meters" violate the law and cause endangerment to residents by the following factors:

    1. They individually identigy electrical devices inside the home and record when they are operated causing invasion of privacy.

    2. They monitor household activity and occupancy in violation of rights and domestic security.

    3. They transmit wireless signals which may be interceped by unauthorized and unknown parties. Those signals can be used to monitor behavior and occupancy and they can by used by criminals to aid criminal activity agains the occupants.

    4. Data about occupant's daily habits and activities are collected, recorded and stored in permanent databases which are accessed by parties not authorized or invited to know and share that private data.

    5. Those with access to the smart meter databases can review a permanent history of household activities complete with calender and time-of-day metrics to gain a highly invasive and deailed view of the lives of the occupants.

    6. Those databases may be shared with, or fall in the hands of criminals, blackmailers, law enforcement, private hackers of wireless transmissions, power company employees, and other unidentified parties who may act agains the interests of the occupants under metered surveillance.

    7. "Smart Meters" are, by definition, surveillance devices which violate Federal and State Wiretapping laws by recording and storing databases of private and personal activities and behaviors without the concent or knowledge of those people who are monitored.

    8. It is possible for example, with analysis of certain "Smart Meter" data, for unauthorized and distant parties to determine medical conditions, sexual activities, physical locations of persons within the home, vacany patterns and personal information and habits of the occupants.

    9. Your company has not adequately disclosed the particular recording and transmission capabilities of the smart meter, or the extent of the data that will be recorded, stored and shared, or the purposes to which the data will and will not be put.

    I forbid, refuse and deny consent of any installation and use of any monitoring, eavesdropping, and surveillance devices on my property, my place of residence and my place of occupancy. That applies to and includes "Smart Meters" and activity monitoring devices of any and all kinds. Any attempt to install any such device directed at me, other inhabitants, guests, my property or residence will constitute trespass, stalking, wiretapping and unlawful surveillance, all prohibited and punishable by law through criminal and civil complaints. All persons, government agencies and private organizations responsible for installing or operating monitoring devices directed at or recording my activities, which I have not specifically authorized in writing, will be fully liable for any violations, intrusions, harm or negative consequences caused or made possible by thos devices whether those negative consequences are justified by "law" or not.

    This is legal notice. After this delivery the liabilities listed above may not be denied or avoided by parties named and implied in this notice.

    Notice to principal is notice to agent and notice to agent is notice to principal. All rights reserved



    Respectfully:


    _____________________________________
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    Can do two signers if want, only need one but would be good to have two witnesses.



    Now I sent this to my power company certified and was told that they would not intall a smart meter on my residence. Informed my neighborhood of the dangers of health problems and the entire neighborhood kicked these jerks out.

    Just a few more things here. smart meters or part of Ajenda 21 and they do cause health problems
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    The company that is tasked to install the meters keeps phoning up I have told them I do not want their meter because they effect my health end of story. Warn your neighbours about potential health concerns.

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    FYI

    The government of Saskatchewan is removing over 100,000 of them because they have been linked to several house fires. Turns out that any idiot can install them, which means they don't necessarily end up being safe. We're having our smart meters replaced with the old analogue meters...the mechanical doohickey ones.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...ires-1.2723046

    The Saskatchewan government has ordered its power utility SaskPower to remove 105,000 so-called smart meters installed at homes and businesses across the province, following concerns about eight unexplained fires associated with the units.

    The minister responsible for the provincial Crown corporation, Bill Boyd, announced the move Wednesday.

    "The concerns about safety are paramount here," Boyd told reporters in Regina. "The concerns are significant enough that we believe that any time that families are at risk here in Saskatchewan, actions have to be taken. That's why we've directed SaskPower accordingly."

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    People are fighting Smart Meters mostly as individuals right now. No matter what country you live in, this is a task many are loathe to undertake. Because, it is not your utility company that you are fighting -- it's, for lack of a better word, the Cabal. This is a global agenda of theirs.

    This is about standing up to government tyranny. Some people feel they are too old to fight, some are simply too afraid to fight. Can you blame them? They've been harassed, threatened, coerced and subjected to extortion tactics. Everyone needs to be protected, but who will step up to the plate and fight for everyone?

    Smart Meters are just one small part of the big global problem.

    This is all connected to a few banking families that are not too fond of the rest of us and want to reduce our numbers while they continue to rule the world. We've all been exploited/enslaved to work for them.

    They cause wars, spray chemtrails on us, poison our food and water, tell us vaccines are good for us, control the corrupt pharmaceutical industry, oil industry, educational system and mainstream media, the monetary/debt enslavement system and on and on.

    Fighting 'Smart Meters' by itself is like getting bodily gobsmacked and only complaining about the little bit that got in your eye.

    Talking about eyes, we need to target the 'eye of the Cyclops'.

    We need to cut off their money supply. Or 'free energy' needs to become available -- whichever comes first. That would cause a domino effect.

    Don't get me wrong. This is just a reminder of the 'big picture'. There's all kinds of battles going on right now on all fronts and, cumulatively, it IS slowly having a positive effect. It's only a matter of time before the whole system of tyrannical control comes crashing down... just like a house of cards.
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    Quote Posted by Milneman (here)
    FYI

    The government of Saskatchewan is removing over 100,000 of them because they have been linked to several house fires. Turns out that any idiot can install them, which means they don't necessarily end up being safe. We're having our smart meters replaced with the old analogue meters...the mechanical doohickey ones.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...ires-1.2723046

    The Saskatchewan government has ordered its power utility SaskPower to remove 105,000 so-called smart meters installed at homes and businesses across the province, following concerns about eight unexplained fires associated with the units.

    The minister responsible for the provincial Crown corporation, Bill Boyd, announced the move Wednesday.

    "The concerns about safety are paramount here," Boyd told reporters in Regina. "The concerns are significant enough that we believe that any time that families are at risk here in Saskatchewan, actions have to be taken. That's why we've directed SaskPower accordingly."
    Yes, indeed. I also mentioned this in my post #7.

    Manitoba has also refused 'Smart Meters'.

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    Well Pris you are so right. We out here in the great wild west are waking up so many folks and spreading the word about Ajenda 21 and other stuff that the Cabal is doing. The smart meter stuff went viral across this nation and I do believe it went that way around the world. It virtually started in Cal when folks started getting sick and some were dying from the RF stuff coming from these things then folks started figuring out that their electric bills were actually higher and the lies just kept coming and being debunked. Now there is a hugh movement to get rid of them and the other crap like chem trails. Check out what is happening in Shasta Cal. about that stuff. Thank you for being out here.

    Peace be with you.

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