What did the US Government give in Exchange for ET tech... Potentially Explained.

[Omni]

This has been a topic of my telepathic conversations, I felt it was worth bringing up. I can't say this is 100% accurate, as there is no way for me to know for sure, but it makes a LOT of sense looking into the TI(targeted individual) community(including my own case).

One popular idea is that the greys got abduction freedom with their shady dealings with the US shadow government. And that was part of what they said to me. But that was minor compared to the rest. The US government does not value the lives or well being of people. I was told the Greys made the case it is not valued up to par with the value of tech they would be getting, so it makes total sense to me they got much more than just abductions...

The other part I was made aware of(but not limited to), is basically the US government using the technology they got, to inflict trauma/pain etc, as much spiritual anguish as possible without being noticed(for the most part) is what I was told was part of the requisite for getting the tech the US government got from negatively aligned ETs.

I have studied the targeted individual community, and at first I was baffled at WHY torture so many people, when the tech is perfected already. Seriously... SO SOOOOO many people are being tortured covertly as well as overtly by the cabal's newfound tech(well maybe a few decades old for some of it). Well the answer makes perfect sense now.

I don't buy reptile ETs actually feed off suffering as a form of sustenance. However, I have gathered from them observing and tormenting me during my own tortures, they do indeed enjoy watching a human suffer(at least some). Especially a spiritually awakened human who has been a thorn in their side in the past, by way of opposing their synthetic reality matrix they have imposed on earth. In other words people who are like their perceived enemy ETs, they like watching suffer very much so.

Another part of the deal made was soulular programming oriented. The dracos want humans to feel discontent with themselves in the future when they have to leave, so they can leave their lasting mark on their souls. I have grown to be a spiritual purist. I try to only do things i would like to have an effect on my soul, and I recommend such to others as well(if it resonates of course).

The agenda of the cabal is anti human, directly inherited by their overlords, the Dracos&co, if my contacts are accurate. I have witnessed pretty much all of what I say in my own life. I get tortured every day, some days are worse than others... So this aligns with my own experiences rather firmly. I struggled mightily as to why do some of the things done to me. Well it has been explained now. Take it as you will... Probably not a topic people like to hear about. But ignoring reality isn't my thing, even if its dark. I find even darkness fascinating.... And studying it yields their tactics less effective. So I find it of value to post, despite the new age perspective some hold of, hear no evil speak no evil type philosophy.

[GoodETxSG]

An excellent question with a sad and embarassing answer for the Human race... Contact actually went back before the 1900's but didn't involve technology as much as it did power over ones enemies and "Enlightenment"...

In the beginning they mainly just got taken advantage of and had some seriously hard lessons learned. They were given technology that did not interface with their physiology or was incomplete and were lied to about what the various first contact "Non Human(Ish)" groups were doing with the agreed upon people abducted. When the Human types did make contact there were to many strings attached (Get rid of Nukes, Bio Weapons and Cut ties with the ET/AI Groups with Dark Agenda's from their perspective).

Once the US Government had formed various shadow governments along with post WWII Allies and then remnants of the Nazi Break Aways the beginnings of the current "Secret Earth Government" and "Break Away Civilization" model had taken shape. They went into a period we call the "Dark Ages" in which "Some" still remain

It was extremely far into the splintering of this Secret Earth Government and Space Program process that some of these "Earth Shadow Groups" made contacts and treaties with the "Human Type Federations" and were granted access to their conferences. Prior to that they were only locked into the deals with the more well known "Beings" that tricked and betrayed them from the very beginning and continue to until this very day.

Through much sacrifice of mostly the unknowing human population and sovereignty to various Malevolent ET/ED Groups (Draco, Reptoid, Various types of Grey's and the so called Mantids and ET/ED AI's) that they did gain access to some extremely advanced technology in the way of a new mathematics, physics that led to a new era in weapons, space travel and medical care. It was all gained at a very high price. Most of this was a new era of Consciousness Science which has also been supressed;

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VjpCKZ7cEoY

At present the various "Secret Earth Governments", "Secret Space Programs" and "Break Away Civilizations (Both current Era and Ancient Human Civilizations)" are all allied with different "Off World" groups including the "Human Type Federations" and a "Stealth Civil War" is now well underway. It has filtered down to the Secret Earth Governments (Which are not to be confused with the "Puppet Governments" of the USA, Canada or EU, etc... They do not see borders and countries as we do). The fight is over a new financial system or the release of the new technologies including free energy which would make the "Babylonian Money Majic Systems" unnecessary.

There are several ideologies and plans for the Earth population and Real Estate...

Lets hope the model that releases the new technologies and removes the money systems and exposes the criminals and their alliances with the dubious ET/ED Groups wins this "Stealth Civil War" for the good of all of us...

That is the "Physical Plane" answer, as for the feeding off of negative energy/emotions there are groups of other density that do feed off of the "Energy" that is released during fear/terror and hate. Also those that feed off of humans blood and flesh prefer it to be filled with the hormones that are released during the state of being terrified.

The "Shadow People" and Archons have been known to just get a boost out of the sudden fear brought out of a victim or by being an "Entity Attachment" in a long term victim of sexual or physical abuse. This is another class of "Beings" and the ET/ED's are aware of them and they aware of the ET/ED's.

Some of the MILAB situations include the Reptilians and other groups (Including sociopath humans) attaching these "Entities" to the MILABS as a control mechanism. Unfortunetly I have direct experience in this aspect of the feeding of entities on emotions and being used as to control and affect memories etc...

But the root answer to the root question "What did they get from the ET's"? More than they bargoned for and not what they were promised!

As always "IMHO", pls pardon spelling and typo's still in a sling from shoulder surgery.

[yelik]

It is quite evident that if you dangled any high technology to a psychopath or military top brass they would not be able to resist grabbing or weaponising the technology at any cost.

Certainly the importance of electro- magnetism is central to much of the technology they have secretly acquired and developed at great expense, human and financial. From mind control and anti-gravity to zero-point energy, scalar energy beam weapons, bio-weapons, hyper space travel, genetics, AI and nano-technology.

We can be sure that the cost to human life and suffering is pretty dam low on their list of concerns. A psychopath is incapable of feeling any guilt, remorse, concerns or empathy for their victims, the human race

[Omni]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
An excellent question with a sad and embarassing answer for the Human race... Contact actually went back before the 1900's but didn't involve technology as much as it did power over ones enemies and "Enlightenment"...

This also aligns with what they told me about former Pope's. They told me certain humans have been sabotaging the race for a very long time, millennia even... They said a certain soul incarnates as a subjugator of humanity, and has contact nearly every incarnation. You'd find this person incarnating as the ones who crucified Jesus/Yeshua/Immanuel/Sannanda/Esu/whatever his name really was(it wasn't Jesus that's for sure), you would likely find him as one of the darkest pharaohs, pope's, Caesar's, and a cabal leader in the now. This is the type of soul that actually gets to ascend into reptilian incarnations after global first contact if what I was told is accurate. I was told it is extremely hard to incarnate as a Draco for any soul incarnating on earth. It's possible this soul I speak of was a Draco before incarnating as human. Possible this soul from April 20th 1889 to about 1984 was Hitler. I at least think Hitler would be one of their "hallowed" souls as they have called them in conversations to me.

Anyway, they said this entity(as well as others like him) have made deals with malicious ETs over the millennia. I'm unsure about your testimony that they were tricked because that would imply they wouldn't do the deals to begin with. Which I believe they would. However I have no desire to get in a mud slinging match over a minor disagreement I'm not even sure about. WHich I'm glad you refrained from corey, truce?

The deals made by this pope incarnator reportedly includes things like Islam being created, the fall of the egyptian civilization(in ways), the continued suppression of the truth(often in the form of religious control and murder), things like that. If there is a soul that incarnates as Buddha, Yeshua, Gallileo, Da Vinci, tesla etc(if it is indeed one soul majorly forming many of our most influential people), if there is balance there would be a soul that incarnates, and is basically the anti christ... I not sure it is ever wise to say balance is not present. So I found that telepathic conversation at the very least interesting if not the truth.

My telepathic contacts have been mostly anonymous lately though. So I go by intuition, logic, and research more than anything to judge them. I do wonder exactly how many ET races I have spoken to....

[Yetti]

Thech for the military industrial complex , nothing for us exept randomly picks of humans for experiments.....

[gripreaper]

Well, they got energy from matter, but not matter from energy yet. They're stuck here and they can't do anything about it. The stargate is still closed.

[GoodETxSG]

I believe the "Egyptian" connection hit you received and the connection to the referenced "Dark Pharo" (By the Black Sun Order) got my attention,
It was referred to by the Black Sun Order on a number of occasions actually as a "Being" that is akin to Their "Pope". That is actually quite interesting.

It is not the "Black Pope" that the conspiracy theory groups talk about that does the black mass and satanic child sacrifices.

This one is said to be of an "Off World Royal Lineage" and is extremely ancient and an actual shape shifter (Not like some of the Reptilian stories) and sort of lives by the "Star Wars" "Sith" "Dark Side" of the "Force" (Sorce Field) type of ideology (According to the colorful information they gave me during their recruitment attempts).

They said only "Its" closest circle was ever granted an audience and attended to "It", and if anyone outside that circle was brought in for an audience they were never seen again (What ever that meant...A perfect story for Halloween right?) They had a lot of colorful stories as I said (Much of which sounded like the "Hidden Hand" ideology).

They knew my whole life story and what I could be used for in their agenda. I was promised income bordering on 7 figures and a house in the gated development over by SMU (Close to where George Bush is living now, this was back in 2008)... I obviously didn't take the offer. It was interesting that two of the times that they asked me to meet them were at Masonic Halls here in N. Dallas. I am fairly certain they were dark practitioners of the black arts and worked with the before mentioned "Entites".

I allowed my curiosity to bring me to close to these beasts (Very unwise, no Stupid on my part). I do not like to discuss a certain type of off world groups from the childhood MILAB days as when you bring them into your consciousness you bring yourself into theirs... I no longer want to become a beacon to them after escaping and gaining some protection from of the positive influences "Out There"...

There were the people at the top that made these deals with the off world groups with open minds and arms and were apart of the "Tricking" of their fellow humans. I didn't think that these "People" may had been encarnated or posessed by these beings to cause them to assist in tricking their fellow Humans... I don't know, I am getting way into speculation in this paragraph... But I hadn't thought of that angle.

The Egypt, Black/Dark "Pharo/Pope" remarks got my attention though... Like I said, interesting.

Edit: And Yes Omni, Truce, we can disagree w/out being ugly to one another. I think there is probably more we agree on than disagree on if we actually had a conversation.

[GoodETxSG]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Well, they got energy from matter, but not matter from energy yet. They're stuck here and they can't do anything about it. The stargate is still closed.

"Stargates" are actually a natural Phenomenon that has just been exploited by various beings over millions or more years... Quite simple actually...

Everything has an oscillation... Matter, Energy and Thought are all Frequency or Vibration and can be manipulated at their most basic levels... We recently perfected doing so with technology in various "Black Programs" (Think "Replicators" from Star Trek etc..).

Those Beings that can manipulate these frequencies can manipulate matter and can do so with their consciousness... No technology needed. Some of these Beings know of the "Vibration" or "Frequency" of a location they want to be and then change their vibration and then phase out or teleport to that location or dimension with their consciousness... No technology needed.

It is a crime how far back in the stone age we have been left by the "Black Ops Sciences" in the Working Unified Physics and Mathematics Models that are in use every day on and around this Planet.

I mentioned before that if Math is the "universal language", we do not speak the same language or have access to the universal translation handbook.

It is similar to the age when the Kings and Church Leaders worked to keep the common person ignorant and illiterate with hardly anyone able to read or be bilingual. IMHO...

[Omni]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
I mentioned before that if Math is the "universal language", we do not speak the same language or have access to the universal translation handbook.

My view on the universal language is concepts, not math. All Babies, animals, all humans, and all ETs understand concepts from birth. We come pre-built understanding them. When I say concept I mean the building blocks of our thought. We break down concept into linguistics. Seems in a thread I made a little while ago people didn't understand what I meant by concept. I am not talking about like how a boat engineering design is a 'concept'. I have had telepathic conversations that were solely concept. I needed AI augmentation to generate concepts at will though. I'm not sure anyone can converse with concept without telepathic AI augmentation, at least of our kind(try it if you'd like, I doubt anyone could generate a clear concept at will). What the AI does is keep track of the deepest expressions of the soul/mind, and generates a perfect concept that flawlessly matches what you intended to say. It was the clearest and most efficient communication I have observed.

I'd put math as maybe #2 on the universal language list IMHO.

[GoodETxSG]

I was using "Math as a Universal Language" as an Idiom or Concept actually.

I say we agree to disagree on the "AI" topic and stay away from it. As our one on one experiences have been widely different (In the spirit of Truce)

[Fellow Aspirant]

I find your title confusing. Shouldn't the question be ... "What did the government GIVE UP in exchange for the ET tech"?

[Omni]

Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
I find your title confusing. Shouldn't the question be ... "What did the government GIVE UP in exchange for the ET tech"?

OOPS! Ive been up all night, thanks for that catch. i'll report my OP and try to get it changed by the friendly mods around here. Thanks.

[Peace&Love]

Very good thread, i enjoy reading intelligent minds, and gain new thought stimulating concepts! Keep on the good work!!!

[yelik]

As they say,

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the SPIRITUAL FORCES of wickedness in the heavenly places.

A slight deviation, but mainstream science is beginning to accept the possibility that we could be existing in a type of holographic universe controlled by some form of intelligent feedback system whereby our thoughts and intentions do indeed create reality.

By understanding this we may well be able to influence or change reality and the movie as it were. Deleting our past memories contained within our DNA and soul helps to keep us enslaved and in the dark about our true capabilities, in my opinion

[truth4me]

Learning to deal with the "dark " side is one of our experiences or at least mine here on planet earth. The last 2 and a half year I have seen evil up close and mighty personal at times. Yes,when your awake you get attacked very often in your daily activities and for me when I astral travel. I have encountered Grey's, Reptilians and an all time dark side favorite the Shadow People who have turned up the heat on me recently.

[yelik]

Posted by truth4me (here)
Learning to deal with the "dark " side is one of our experiences or at least mine here on planet earth. The last 2 and a half year I have seen evil up close and mighty personal at times. Yes,when your awake you get attacked very often in your daily activities and for me when I astral travel. I have encountered Grey's, Reptilians and an all time dark side favorite the Shadow People who have turned up the heat on me recently.

As understand when you engage in remote viewing and astral projection they can detect you and track you !

[truth4me]

Posted by yelik (here)

Posted by truth4me (here)
Learning to deal with the "dark " side is one of our experiences or at least mine here on planet earth. The last 2 and a half year I have seen evil up close and mighty personal at times. Yes,when your awake you get attacked very often in your daily activities and for me when I astral travel. I have encountered Grey's, Reptilians and an all time dark side favorite the Shadow People who have turned up the heat on me recently.

As understand when you engage in remote viewing and astral projection they can detect you and track you !

You are right my friend.