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    In case anyone has missed the latest video from “The Faces of Avalon YouTube,” called “Project Avalon Military Advanced Technology Whistleblower - Part 1“, check out Bill's thread called, “A major new interview with a Project Avalon Whistleblower”.
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    Yes, something woke me up when I was exhausted and needed the sleep.

    Two critical evidential happenings in the world of psychology/physiology, with regard to scientific proofing of things we should consider knowing and living by:

    I have spoken many a time on how thoughts form in 'the mind', how the physical carrier is the filter and formation or genesis point/platform upon which thought emerges. Medical science takes another swing at it.

    Study offers evidence of unconscious thinking impacting conscious decision making

    How other people's lies literally dumbs you down, how protracted lies in the entire sociopolitical/governmental system, as a backdrop, literally makes people stupid.

    Quote Cyr's latest research provides evidence that trial-and-error learning can benefit memory in both young and old when errors are meaningfully related to the right answer, and can actually harm memory when they are not.
    Edit: Just checked on the release time, I awoke the minute the interview hit the forum.

    As for cognition, guessing, and memory function..the problem is that, within lies, with systems of no apparent possible connection (when looking at proffered/publicity/news/etc data) ......we memorize and maintain via cognitive connection in systems.

    When there is no relation, no connection, no reality behind the words or data, the memory cannot form, the cognition cannot improve,and the lapse and breakdown either begins or continues. We cannot get past step one, into learning and memory as the connection is not made. It's like not being able to exercise...... the decay and breakdown begins.
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    Ulli, wish you a soon recovery.

    Kisses.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Yes, something woke me up when I was exhausted and needed the sleep.

    Two critical evidential happenings in the world of psychology/physiology, with regard to scientific proofing of things we need to know and live by:

    I have spoken many a time on how thoughts form in 'the mind', how the physical carrier is the filter and formation or genesis point/platform upon which thought emerges. Medical science takes another swing at it.

    Study offers evidence of unconscious thinking impacting conscious decision making

    How other people's lies literally dumbs you down, how protracted lies in the entire sociopolitical/governmental system, as a backdrop, literally makes people stupid.

    Quote Cyr's latest research provides evidence that trial-and-error learning can benefit memory in both young and old when errors are meaningfully related to the right answer, and can actually harm memory when they are not.
    If I didn't have a solid belief structure which I grab a hold of like a drowning swimmer grabs a rescue ring I would be completely incoherent right now. I can explain this belief structure like this:

    a) At the top of my belief structure is that absolute oneness point, or Source, in which I have total trust, namely that despite apparent chaos all will be nice and neat and orderly, again and again, and this Source intelligence will get His cosmic ducks back in a row.
    All chaos is nothing other than transition to a better world.

    b) The second layer of my belief structure is that one's consciousness can help create one's reality. This alone is so mind blowing a concept that to me it proves that a higher intelligence set it all up to begin with, and I mean something far higher and greater than AI.

    c) The third layer means that all this hyper structure is connected to the individual, not to organizations. But unfortunately the fragrances of this higher energy are being distorted by the odor of competing entities, which all clamor to get control of the individual. That's how we have this morrass of influences, and cacophany of ideas and voices bombarding us.

    d) Each individual is responsible for sorting through this mess and recognize their right to help create their idea of a personal utopia. Which may or may not include messing with other peoples heads, but only if done without deception or coercion.

    Got interrupted. Husband called and says gardener found a massive boa constrictor ( well 3 m is not really massive) hissing at him this morning before heading off in the direction of where we are living now. Close all doors, he says.
    I know this is all related to my recent illness, and the eclipse, and the attacks which have again confirmed to me the power of right thinking.

    Oh and by the way, Carmody, I had yet another go at directing attention towards astrology. Not sure if it was my best shot, but I do what I can.
    My post in reply to Bill's statement re stargates, on his latest whistleblower thread.

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    Quote Posted by Nora (here)
    Hi Ulli,

    Good prayers of healing and strength to you and comfort.

    Attachment 27778


    Been a heck of a few days, a lot of calls or e-mails from people -their world is shaking up or something is different....doesn't feel right. I think the dream.

    and I have been having dreams of silver pentagrams -right side up

    Listened to the soundtrack to Inception and Interstellar today.

    Sitting in the warmth of a good hot fire and playing this right now.

    Our Destiny Lies Above Us by Hans Zimmer



    Love

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    Cannot hear the new soundtrack from Hans Zimmer. Cancelled by Youtube.

    Thanks, Nora.


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    Seirra, I sympathize, empathize even with your plight. My advice: remember that you will drive yourself insane trying to emphasize with someone on that end of the scale (I believe BPD is a scale), at least that's what I found when I tried. I think carmody's post speaks directly to the core of the harm: it is lying to yourself. Extremely bipolar people immediate believe the lies they tell themself. It becomes reality. You can't compromise with that.

    Since I tend to attract hardly anything other than the high end of the scale (I guess that tells you a lot about me!), I found the only thing you can do is call them, and understand they may never "get" that you are providing a service in attempting to be a mirror or constructively criticize. You can't take personally the blank looks, inability to explain the lie you call them on, their relationship with reality. Just responsibility for not letting it make you miserable.

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    Here and now, I reflect on when I was a kid, and discovered Santa was a lie…and how I was programmed to think it was a good thing, to pretend I did not know…so as not to “ruin it” for the ignorant.

    I think that’s a bad program. It’s especially silly to those on outside, looking in…but that never stopped a parent from justifying and prolonging the lie…

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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Here and now, I reflect on when I was a kid, and discovered Santa was a lie…and how I was programmed to think it was a good thing, to pretend I did not know…so as not to “ruin it” for the ignorant.

    I think that’s a bad program. It’s especially silly to those on outside, looking in…but that never stopped a parent from justifying and prolonging the lie…
    I totally agree. And the Santa myth has a lot to do with the cabals lies to us ignorants, too.
    Also, the perpetuation of the torturous trainings young doctors go through, being deliberately kept awake for more than 48 hours, tending patients. System change is needed,...at all levels.
    But there is a collective sadism going on, together with a collective need to uphold traditions, no matter how outdated such may be.

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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Here and now, I reflect on when I was a kid, and discovered Santa was a lie…and how I was programmed to think it was a good thing, to pretend I did not know…so as not to “ruin it” for the ignorant.

    I think that’s a bad program. It’s especially silly to those on outside, looking in…but that never stopped a parent from justifying and prolonging the lie…
    I totally agree. And the Santa myth has a lot to do with the cabals lies to us ignorants, too.
    Also, the perpetuation of the torturous trainings young doctors go through, being deliberately kept awake for more than 48 hours, tending patients. System change is needed,...at all levels.
    But there is a collective sadism going on, together with a collective need to uphold traditions, no matter how outdated such may be.
    Absolutely. As donk pointed out, we like to justify our behaviour (as if it is a good thing!).

    jus•ti•fy (jŭsˈtə-fīˌ)


    v.
    To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid: justified each budgetary expense as necessary; anger that is justified by the circumstances.
    v.
    To declare free of blame; absolve.
    v.
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    In other words, we know we're doing something wrong, but we justify it and keep doing it anyway.

    Ask yourself... when you look at your own life, what do YOU justify?...

    It can be anything from staying in an abusive relationship to eating meat.

    I know there will be some who want to disagree with me -- perhaps even want to attack my 'opinion' (the meat issue is so sensitive), but before you do, really think about it.

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    Like Leo says in Inception, ideas are the most effective parasite, this is the self-protection mechanism they seem to come with:

    Quote I know there will be some who want to disagree with me -- perhaps even want to attack my 'opinion'

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    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Here and now, I reflect on when I was a kid, and discovered Santa was a lie…and how I was programmed to think it was a good thing, to pretend I did not know…so as not to “ruin it” for the ignorant.

    I think that’s a bad program. It’s especially silly to those on outside, looking in…but that never stopped a parent from justifying and prolonging the lie…
    I totally agree. And the Santa myth has a lot to do with the cabals lies to us ignorants, too.
    Also, the perpetuation of the torturous trainings young doctors go through, being deliberately kept awake for more than 48 hours, tending patients. System change is needed,...at all levels.
    But there is a collective sadism going on, together with a collective need to uphold traditions, no matter how outdated such may be.
    Absolutely. As donk pointed out, we like to justify our behaviour (as if it is a good thing!).

    jus•ti•fy (jŭsˈtə-fīˌ)


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    To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid: justified each budgetary expense as necessary; anger that is justified by the circumstances.
    v.
    To declare free of blame; absolve.
    v.
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    In other words, we know we're doing something wrong, but we justify it and keep doing it anyway.

    Ask yourself... when you look at your own life, what do YOU justify?...

    It can be anything from staying in an abusive relationship to eating meat.

    I know there will be some who want to disagree with me -- perhaps even want to attack my 'opinion' (the meat issue is so sensitive), but before you do, really think about it.
    The strongest programming is the repetition of ingrained habits. No one is free of guilt, when it comes to habits.
    But when others start pestering about those habits then the justification begins.
    Varying degrees, from ignoring such people, to aggressive self-defence, way beyond mere justification.

    To me the bottom line is to leave others alone. Life itself has a way of throwing the monkey-wrench into their works, sooner or later.
    It's all about work on self, on freeing the self of all programming, however long that may take, even if doing baby steps.

    If I focus too much on another person's mess I might end up ignoring my own. I'd rather focus on being helpful, in a general way, to the best of my ability.
    But if I'm observed and judged in such a pursuit I might become intimidated and eventually I'll lose my style and also my efficiency.

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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Seirra, I sympathize, empathize even with your plight. My advice: remember that you will drive yourself insane trying to emphasize with someone on that end of the scale (I believe BPD is a scale), at least that's what I found when I tried. I think carmody's post speaks directly to the core of the harm: it is lying to yourself. Extremely bipolar people immediate believe the lies they tell themself. It becomes reality. You can't compromise with that.

    Since I tend to attract hardly anything other than the high end of the scale (I guess that tells you a lot about me!), I found the only thing you can do is call them, and understand they may never "get" that you are providing a service in attempting to be a mirror or constructively criticize. You can't take personally the blank looks, inability to explain the lie you call them on, their relationship with reality. Just responsibility for not letting it make you miserable.
    I think that's a bingo Donk. Can't let myself become miserable in response. Damn, it feels so 1984 somehow. I think I am seeing that no matter how much understanding one attains, the mental illness just keeps right on being mental illness.

    Donk, were you ever in therapy together with someone on the scale? I tried once for two years and it was an exercise in bull****. His current therapy however, seems to be one of the few methodologies that work with bipolar, somewhat effectively.

    Violet, my husband is in therapy, and I wish we could afford for him to go every week instead of every two weeks. I really do get a break for a few days, after his sessions. Last year, when he first started going (self initiated no less) to therapy, I could even speak about some of the things we talk about on Avalon, and we could find common ground in science and spirituality.

    Surrender surrender surrender.

    I need to meditate. I get so off balance. Catastrophic thinking takes over.

    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Sierra, it's not just your husband. It's most men.
    George Carlin summed it up...men are stupid, and women are crazy.
    And women are crazy because men are stupid.
    Well... In that case next time around, just call me Sappho (wriggling eyebrows suggestively at Ulli lol).

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    From: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post893304

    PurpleLama sez:

    Quote Coherence is essentially the composition of one's own field, and may vary widely from person to person. One who practices meditation, or any of a wide range of mental or spiritual disciplines or practices will have a tendency to gather coherence. One might use an electrical analogy, where there is flow and there is force of the electrical energy, the combination of which gives the actual available power. One who practices, and keeps practicing will develop force, whereas flow occurs less deliberately, force for example the ability of concentrating and focusing ones consciousness, whereas flow might be denoted by the sheer number of thoughts flying through one's head.
    That's it, that's it. Incoherence is the result when dealing with less than truth, and meditation rebalances the mind.

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    Sorry you had to get drawn in there under such unfortunate circumstances. The oddesey continues....

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    Goes actually way, way beyond 2000 BC (add more zeroes), but still funny.

    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    My father questionned these strange 'messes in the sky', he was a WW2 pilot, and was not amused by his beautiful skies being trashed. I told him what they were, and he said to me "there are many things of which we are not aware", he couldn't outright deny, but he knew all was not natural. He was a true diplomat, yet supportive to me - until the end this February. I really miss him, and my Mum, who joined him on 15th September this year. We are burying her ashes in the joint place on Saturday. No wind please!!!
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    Sierra, BE the shining mountain Your namesake IS, actively intentionally because You Can : )


    Really gotta get some o' Rick's cannabis resin spread around like now, just a rice grain a day will do Ya, all of Us Ya's !!!

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    The bond humans share has definitely to do with the heart, far more than the brain.
    Yes soulful connections, the day of the new moon solar eclipse I was really feeling the shift of the planets -sheesh and missing my traditional circle of people very much. They mostly live in the North some in other states and even in other countries. I was thinking of going up to visit them while driving into town. A couple of hours after I got back home I got a call from one of them during the solar eclipse. Totally unexpected call, this person, I don't even know them that well and they live across the nation.



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    Hi Ulli,

    Good prayers of healing and strength to you and comfort.

    Attachment 27778


    Been a heck of a few days, a lot of calls or e-mails from people -their world is shaking up or something is different....doesn't feel right. I think the dream.

    and I have been having dreams of silver pentagrams -right side up

    Listened to the soundtrack to Inception and Interstellar today.

    Sitting in the warmth of a good hot fire and playing this right now.

    Our Destiny Lies Above Us by Hans Zimmer



    Love

    Nora
    Cannot hear the new soundtrack from Hans Zimmer. Cancelled by Youtube.

    Thanks, Nora.

    Here Dan with the sunrise




    Love

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    Default Re: Here and Now...What's Happening?

    I finished reading the Thiaoouba Prophecy. Thank you for the recommendation, meeradas. It blew my mind. So much wisdom there. I, of course, am left with questions. Seems like everything I learn answers one or two questions and leaves me with so many more.

    Stepped out of the village today. Wow. Reminded why I burrow in over here. Sometimes I simply do not understand hostility. Most of the time, actually.

    Have had many reminders to clear my own shyt, trying to release and clear as I go. Missing my quiet alone time, very much. I know what I will return to, this persistent reluctance to move forward and the opposite-the excitement to open up and let go.

    Learning so much about myself on this trip, while realizing in little tiny bits that I am not this at all. I hope I can do what it is I am setting out to do. Surely it is not impossible.

    Much Love,
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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Here and now, I reflect on when I was a kid, and discovered Santa was a lie…and how I was programmed to think it was a good thing, to pretend I did not know…so as not to “ruin it” for the ignorant.

    I think that’s a bad program. It’s especially silly to those on outside, looking in…but that never stopped a parent from justifying and prolonging the lie…
    My family serves us derision at Christmas time and begs us to not let our children spoil the "magic" of Christmas for their cousins as we have decided not to lie and delude our children. They still have fun, but they know Santa ain't real. I've posted on this before and how my grandmother convinced me Santa would stick me with a hypodermic needle with drugs if he caught me awake on Xmas Eve, etc.... That frightened me as child. So much for magic. I reiterate to my family that it is my prerogative not to lie and delude my children for the sake of their own comfort. Bah Humbug!


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