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    Hi:

    One of the points that my big essay makes is that the history of life on Earth is full of anatomical features that evolved for one purpose but were used for a new purpose. It happened in human evolution. Mammals had large brains from the beginning, which was probably related to enhanced senses so that they could survive in marginal environments. Primates had larger brains from the beginning, too, and it is thought to be because of their binocular vision and the demands of navigating arboreal environments. Humanity's opposable thumb was developed to navigate in trees. The larger brains of monkeys and then apes in the human line were largely used for social navigation, and may have been the stimulant for growth. There are competing hypothesis for what stimulated the brain growth in the human line, but it took energy to do that, and it looks like positive feedbacks between hand and brain development and enhanced energy acquisition practiced led to humanity. Humans were something new and unusual, and it did not take them long to conquer the planet like no animal had ever done before.

    When all the easy meat was gone, humans domesticated plants and animals, and exploited anatomical features and behaviors in new ways to domesticate them. For instance, most domesticated animals were social animals, and humans exploited their herd behaviors to take over herd leadership and thus control the animals. Humans are herd animals, too, and domesticating humans was part of the Domestication Revolution.

    Fear is an animal's response to a physical threat, and humans have used fear to domesticate animals and humans. It is not the only tool, as using carrots and sticks has been used for encouraging the desired behavior and discouraging the undesirable behavior, for uncounted millennia, and humans first it used on humans in creating their societies. Human mastery of those practices on each other led to their mastery of domesticating animals. Selective breeding of plants and animals, to enhance desired traits, is an ancient practice. The silver fox was domesticated in my lifetime by using selective breeding.

    Sexual behavior is another trait used for new purposes, but humans may not have invented it. Bonobos use sex in novel ways, for group cohesion and conflict resolution, and females appear to have invented it, to form a new kind of society that ended male domination, in response to a doubling food supply.

    Morality and love, if not invented by humans, have been taken to new levels, and humans are still figuring out the love/sex connection. But fear had also been refined as a method of social control, and humans often react to fear far in disproportion to any physical threat. Many dysfunctional behaviors are due to fear amplifying a "natural" response beyond reason. This is behind the way that humans are indoctrinated into scarcity-based ideologies at a young age, and they never give them up. It even happens in such seemingly "purely" intellectual pursuits such as science.

    Love overcomes fear, and my fellow travelers who woke up did so because they genuinely wanted to help others, and kept chasing experiences that eventually showed them what big lies underlie the dominant ideologies. Almost nobody on Earth can let their conditioning go, however, as they see it as the key to survival in a world of scarcity. That fear-based outlook is deeply baked into human awareness, and the manipulation of the human mind became a science in the 20th century. Only freakish people, who really desire to make the world a better place to live in, have broken through the layers of indoctrination and deception. I found that they are one-in-thousands in the general population, but those are the people that I seek for my "choir" idea. They do not need to be as heroic as Dennis, Brian, or Mr. Professor, but I have some minimum requirements.

    More on this later, but it is time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    To continue the previous post, in evolutionary terms, love and sentience appear to be emergent properties with humans, or at least to the level that humans display them. Maybe there was love among the trilobites, but that property seems to have become more developed as life became more complex. The first mother appeared about 400 million years ago, and was probably the beginning of motherly love. Although there is evidence that dinosaurs cared for their young in "nurseries," mammals' nursing their young would have been another step in the development of motherly love. In humans, the basic social unit is a mother and her children, so this pattern is hundreds of millions of years old. Nevertheless, humans took those traits to new levels.

    To wax a little mystically, learning about and expressing love may be what the entire purpose of physical reality is, and life and then "sentient" life is about taking those lessons to their final phase before "graduation." I do not know if that is the case, but it "fits" with my understanding, and is one of the stars that I steer by. In fact, if I had not steered by it since a very young age, I would not have had my adventures, much less survived them.

    On a related matter, I have yet to encounter many people in cyberspace who have the courage to be real people, as they prefer to hide behind anonymity. It is a requirement for my forum to be a real person, partly because it reflects a minimal level of courage, which will be far below what it will take to be a choir member. What I have found is that those who want to remain anonymous to the public in relationship to my work do not really fear Godzilla, or if they do it is a silly fear, because he already knows who they are (nobody can hide from him, especially when interacting with people like me), but they fear the reactions of their social circles. Indifference or ostracism relating to one's social circle is normal with the FE pursuit, but I seriously doubt that many in the choir will have many who know or care about their choir work. In fact, they will not even be aware of it, unless the choir member tries to sing to them, and that is something that I constantly discourage, because then they will get ostracized, etc. But singing for those other needles out there is not going to attract the interest of people's social circles. Also, as I discovered over the years, no matter how I try to make my work accessible (while not watering it down), it will fly far over the heads of almost everybody who encounters it. And that will not be because it is so conceptually difficult, but comes from a place where there Kool-Aid is not freely dispensed.

    As I have stated plenty, it took me about two years to really understand what Uncle Noam was saying, and I wanted to understand. But it was not that what Noam said was so conceptually difficult, but because it came from such a different direction from where my indoctrination hailed. It will be that way with my work. Hardly anybody is going to even try to understand my work, and if they do, it will take a lot of time and effort. But, nothing less will work for what I have in mind. Those looking for quick and easy answers will quickly be dissuaded and will look for easier stuff to digest. But you get out of learning what you put into it. I do not expect my work to become "popular," and to the extent that it does, it is not being understood. The gist of my work will not become apparent to people until they jettison their scarcity-based thinking, and that will not even begin for more than 99% of the population until FE is delivered into their lives.

    Back to chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    I may be about to repeat myself here, so please forgive me (I just enjoy writing / thinking about things in an FE context...)

    The Synopsis segment of The Blank Slate wiki page you linked to in post #4215 Wade, was interesting (to little me) in terms of FE.

    It states Pinker's claim “that political equality does not require sameness, but policies that treat people as individuals with rights; that moral progress doesn't require the human mind to be naturally free of selfish motives, only that it has other motives to counteract them

    An FE world that facilitates universal abundance obviously encourages far more individual creative expression (versus sameness) and unselfish motives to emerge / be explored - rather than analysing our behaviour in the repetitive cycles of survival mode, and questioning how much negative behaviour 'must' be human nature simply because a scarcity culture is conducive to its repetition.

    More broadly though, when it comes to motives - that quote, and your own posted points about incarceration versus rehabilitation, reminded me of the perceived benefit of automated technology (popular with Jacque Fresco amongst others), in that rather than having a society which punishes people you can have technological solutions that help avoid / eliminate the causes of much crime. Fresco gave an example of the criminalisation of perpetrators in automobile accidents – saying that with automated vehicles if a driver fell asleep at the wheel there would be no accident, no victim and therefore no resultant criminal.

    This obviously brings up territory for debate in terms of technology effecting our conscious awareness. But a world with better technology and fewer tragedies (where we still have the choice to apply our consciousness) is surely preferable to one of greater austerity, damage and punishment. For example, I would prefer to apply my consciousness more broadly and enjoyably to surveying the view as I travel, rather than applying it more narrowly to be vigilant over potential causes of accidents.

    Given that free energy opens the doors to a wider variety of technology, and the ability to make it smaller, cleaner and more complex in ability, it obviously assists in creating technology far more usefully in that respect.

    Pinker's wiki synopsis later states : “evolutionary explanations may also help the left create policies with greater public support, suggesting that people's sense of fairness (caused by mechanisms such as reciprocal altruism) rather than greed is a primary cause of opposition to welfare, if there is not a distinction in the proposals between what is perceived as the deserving and the undeserving poor.”

    Seeking work and being motivated to contribute are slippery areas of moral judgement. For instance, someone may be fed up with society because they have tried to make a difference but found that due to an oppressive cultural background, the expense of further education or independent research / R & D, capitalist rather than sensible notions in the workplace, etc, they were unable to contribute in a way that honoured their highest potential as an ethical and / or original contributor.

    On moral judgement, as an example, if two scientists are made redundant, who is morally more sound and deserving of welfare? The emotionally-drained, despondent inventor who tried to provide groundbreaking solutions for humanity's ailments, or the scientist who perkily dusts himself off to seek work at a corrupt and environmentally destructive corporation so he/she can 'contribute' ?

    A free energy world of greater self-sufficiency obviously eliminates many of the situations that cause us to even consider these sorts of arguments; including the scarcity-based circumstances that induce people to hide behind philosophies of abstinence which 'sound' worthy but in practice can stunt our personal growth.

    Ideas for utopias based on energy scarcity have often been structured around people being compelled to contribute in specific/limited roles, and moral justifications for people enjoying spiritual worth in those necessary roles have been based around those parameters. In an FE world there is a vastly diminished need for people to contribute mechanistically (like factory workers in the Spanish Revolution for example) and more room for individual growth. So it really has the potential to revolutionise definitions of what constitutes, motivates and binds community.

    Contemplating Enishi's point in post #4219:

    Quote “One can still respect the soul's need for self-determination while also recognizing that notions of property are based on relative cultural context even in a world of scarcity rather than being some God given right.”
    Property through history has largely flowed towards those with the material means to attain it – either based on heightened mental capacity / wiles, and / or on brute force. In an FE world where the entire populace is provided for and enabled to provide for themselves, the motivation to respect and protect uniquely abundant geographical areas for the good of the planet and its inhabitants will likely be shared by the majority, which is the greater force of consciousness / energy needed to actively protect it. It facilitates us becoming guardians of good sense, instead of selfish desire.

    In a FE world, I can picture globally respected laws that govern property rights. For example, with asteroid mining, automated localised manufacture, and other technological innovation, supercomputers may be ten a penny. An abundant, non-capitalist culture that doesn't focus individuals on profit-making also diminishes protectiveness / possessiveness. But there will still be room to acknowledge a person's right to 'own' original creations and necessities, whether it be their home, prototype inventions etc, or intellectual property and the tech that stores it. Credit where credit is due etc.

    But with abundance we can be in a position to honour these laws based more on honouring truth in a clearer, lighter context, rather than in the defensive, survivalist terrain we have currently that binds ideas so heavily to scarcity and the material realm. What are regarded as fundamental rights won't necessarily change, but they won't need to be guarded so fiercely or occupy our minds in quite the same way. In terms of how we perceive our 'rights' that will be a liberating shift of terrain. In one sense you might say, by experiencing abundance, we might feel we have the right to live without worrying about our rights.
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    Hi:

    I was going to write about genuine transition fears and how FE can happen, and then saw Melinda's post, so I will address both, as they are related.

    What each Epochal Event had in common was that there was a bit of necessity being the mother of invention, but there was also opportunity. The human line had attained the cognitive and technical ability to tap the next energy resource, but necessity and opportunity often converged, and the next energy resource was tapped. The beings that tapped it were either extraordinary for their time or in extraordinary circumstances.

    One theme of the journey of life on Earth is that the big innovations were often acts of necessity and opportunity, very similar to the human journey, and often engaged in by marginal beings that took a chance and made the breakthrough. We can go way back on that one, particularly for the key evolutionary events that only happened once, as in it happened with one organism (the asterisked events). Many key events likely happened only once and then spread.

    The Epochal Events of the human journey were similar. Because it happened so long ago, we will never know for sure, but I think it very likely that one australopith learned how to make a stone tool, and others learned it and it spread. Similarly, the control of fire may well have happened only once, and others learned the practice. Both events were unprecedented in the journey of life on Earth.

    The first vertebrates to move to land were likely marginal creatures that were pushed to the fringes of their aquatic environment. Similarly, the first apes were likely losers of arboreal existence and slowly moved to the ground, and had to change their diet to do so. Similarly, the split of the gorilla and chimp lines likely reflected that chimp ancestors had been pushed by gorilla ancestors from the center of the shrinking rainforest. The split of the human and chimp lines likely reflected chimp ancestors pushing out human ancestors from the rainforest altogether, and the human line began to live in the woodland fringes of the dwindling rainforest. Gorillas have a relatively small daily range, chimps have a larger one, and the human line's range grew even more, as the easy food was already claimed by the "winners." That longer range led to the human line's learning to walk upright, which led to great energy savings and further expanded their range. Walking upright freed the hands and led to increased tool use. The human line's hands became far more dexterous than those of their great ape cousins, whose hands were more adapted to living in trees, where they all slept each night.

    Humans became anatomically modern for 100,000 years or more before they became behaviorally modern. And when they did, a group of a few hundred likely "losers" of human competition near the horn of Africa left Africa, probably as an act of desperation, and conquered Earth over the next 50,000 years or so. Those millennia were the Golden Age of the hunter-gatherer, but it did not last for long, as humans drove all of the easy meat to extinction.

    As the easy meat disappeared, warfare between human groups began in earnest, due to energy pressures. While men did the hunting of easy meat, they brought in the most calories, and a trend that began probably before gorillas continued, in that all societies of the human line were male dominated, and violently. But in as few as two places on Earth, humans, most likely women, domesticated plants. That likely happened where the meat was gone and domesticating plants was an act of desperation and an opportunity. Women then began to bring in more calories than men, their status rose, and the first agricultural societies all began peacefully, which reflected women's high status. Bonobos achieved a similar feat when their food supply doubled. As those societies grew, men slowly came to dominate again, largely because of population pressures and the ascendance of violence once again, which men have always excelled at.

    The Industrial Revolution began similarly, as an act of desperation and opportunity. Deforested England turned to coal out of necessity and coal's availability. After more than a century of wood shortages, imported iron, and a rising England that came to the colonial and commerce game relatively late, a young entrepreneur without easy access to charcoal used coal to smelt metal, and the Industrial Revolution was born.

    In each instance, increasing mental and technical prowess led to an opportunity or crisis, or both, that led to the Epochal Event. While there was likely some "Eureka!" with the inventors, and startlement with local observers, each event spread relatively slowly in a human lifetime, but was a dramatic break with the previous energy regime. Not even the inventor could see where the invention was headed, but it radically changed the human journey each time, and was very abrupt on the timescale of previous changes in the journey of life on Earth. Nothing remotely as fast or dramatic had been seen in Earth's history, from stone tools onward.

    The point of the above is that for each Epochal Event, only a handful of beings initiated it, and for the first ones, it may have been only one being: the Teslas of their species. Could anybody at the time have said that the species was ready for the change? I don't think so. But the change came. The control of fire was a great boon to humanity, and may well have led to humans, but was a catastrophe to many other species, as humans eventually began to burn forests with abandon to shape ecosystems to their liking. When that human founder group left Africa, virtually all of the world's large land animals outside of Africa were quickly driven to extinction. When humans began to raise crops and domestic animals, competing animals (AKA "pests") were also eradicated, and the ecological footprint of all civilizations was a heavy one, and it became far worse when humans began to smelt metal. Rising and collapsing civilizations, as they ran out of energy, was the rule for thousands of years. Europe would have gone the way of other collapsed civilizations if it had not tapped new energy sources, and the tapping of water and wind power on an unprecedented scale was a prelude to England's turning to coal. The rise of Europe was an unmitigated catastrophe for the world's peoples. However, the lot of humanity improved greatly due to the advances of the Industrial Revolution. The problem is that there is not enough hydrocarbon energy to go around, and we are quickly running out of it.

    For none of those previous Epochal Events could we say that humanity as a whole "chose" it, but the events were born of a handful of inventors who were driven by necessity and enticed by opportunity, and they made their breakthroughs. Ready or not, there they came. Virtually everything that we call humanity, society, and civilization arose from those energy events. Without the events, none of the rest would have happened. And in places of the world, those events did not happen, such as Australia, where the natives stayed at the hunter-gatherer level until Europeans arrived. The vast majority of humanity (about 85%) has not really received the benefits of industrialization, and have been greatly abused by the West.

    The so-called transitions to those Epochal Phases were not planned, were not orderly, and nobody foresaw the events before they happened. As my fellow travelers and I discovered at great personal cost, humanity is as blind to the FE Revolution as they were before all the previous Epochal Events, and they will not begin to understand until the event happens. Scarcity is the song that everybody sings, and abundance is truly incomprehensible to them. They react with fear and denial to the idea of FE, just as pre-fire australopiths would have reacted to the idea of a campfire. The only way that they are going to begin to understand is to see FE in action. Then they will begin to understand, and not before. This is the crux of the FE conundrum.

    What I found, when people voiced their fear and denial of FE, was that their fear was not really transitional fears, but their fear of the world ending as they knew it, which would have been the same kinds of fears that all peoples before all Epochal Events would have had. There is not going to be a "battle plan" to help people wake up to FE and abundance other than them experiencing it, as it ever was.

    My fellow travelers and I have spent our lifetimes pondering the FE issue and its ramifications, between stints on the front lines, and for this event, we at least have some idea of what the next Epochal Phase could look like. That is probably the best that we can hope for, and is far more than humanity ever had before. The transition is going to be managed by a humanity that is living with the changes. Again, I do not think that humanity is stupid enough to just blow the planet up with wars or strip-mine Earth, when FE makes those activities obsolete. Godzilla knows that he becomes obsolete, too, which is why he is actively preventing it from happening. People are driven to war and raping the planet due to scarcity, and abundance will make those reasons disappear.

    As every FE newbie eventually learns, chatting up their social circles about FE and abundance goes nowhere and is a prescription for being ostracized or worse. It is like trying to explain a campfire to those australopiths.

    About 100,000 people initiating the Fifth Epochal Event will have to be good enough to get a leg-up on an enlightened implementation of FE. It is probably far more than enough. The power of focused sentience is the greatest force on the planet. Does that sentience exist and can it be amassed and focused? That is what I am trying to find out. Some think that that level of sentience does not exist on Earth. Maybe they are right, but if they are, our species is likely doomed.

    Melinda's post hints at the changes that will make the framework that people view life on Earth through become meaningless. Most of what people argue about, when they fear and deny FE and abundance, goes away with FE and abundance (like war and strip mining). They are really begging the question. The entire concept of working for a living becomes obsolete, for an example of what today's people cannot seem to imagine. I found that it is entirely fruitless to engage people on their fears of FE, as they are projecting scarcity and fear onto a situation of abundance. This is the hardwired addiction to failure that Bucky mentioned. They won’t be talked out of it. They have to be shown.

    But those needles in haystacks are going to be able to imagine it before it is delivered into their lives, and they will also help make it happen. That is what I am trying to get going, and we will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Before I go to bed, I just got a laugh. I have long said that Bush the Second was our Caligula, and I am not alone. But I did not make a nice picture of him in Roman regalia.

    Best,

    Wade

    P.S. Damn! the original article pops up some attack page, so I moved the link. The Internet is really going downhill. Yahoo! now has tabloid stuff on its home page. A few years ago, when it was hurting, it began running fashion features, and now it is tabloids. Sigh.
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    Wade,

    I wanted to quote song writer and poet Bob Dylan's take on 9/11:



    “9/11 never happened, President Bush wouldn’t let it.”

    Bob Dylan



    9/11 was not an Event in terms of it changing anything about humanity. It happened in chronological time as an event but nothing Epochal as some suggest that it was and so with the disaster flicks showing pummeled buildings this event never was an Event with a capitol "E".

    From Frank Seeburger's fine article on Dylan's quote:

    http://www.electronicbookreview.com/...noise/eventual

    Seeburger dissects the quote in terms of events that we knew or that we could feel should cause monumental change to humanity and so in those terms 9/11 was a non event. And so we have an Event with a capitol E signifying that an epochal change has occurred. A small e for a non epochal event.

    A quote from the article:


    "Following that convention, an Event is not just any datable occurrence. An Event is, rather, precisely the occurrence of a rupture, an irruption into and an interruption of, the chain of everyday, datable, countable (literally, enumerable) occurrences that follow one after another in temporal sequence. An Event, in the relevant sense, is something new, something strictly unpredictable on the basis of everything that precedes it, that reorganizes the entire existential field"

    So we saw buildings on fire in Hollywood movies and buildings collapsing and the authorities tell us that this can and will happen again so it is not unexpected at all.

    Another quote from the article:


    "Accordingly, contemporary debate, after 9/11, among such philosophers as Derrida, Baudrillard, Vattimo, or Žižek as to whether 9/11 itself really was an Event at all, is not about whether it “really happened” as opposed to being “faked” - as, for example, many around the world remain to this day convinced that the American landing on the moon in the summer of 1969 never really took place, but was only a media simulation put out as the real thing (like the Balkan-style war in the film Wag the Dog, staged to reelect a sitting but unpopular President). Rather, the debate about whether 9/11 was really an Event at all is, for Derrida and the others at issue, about whether “what happened” that morning as a datable, televisable, mediatizable occurrence in the ongoing chain of such occurrences was anything that had such radical significance, one might put it, that it brought about, whether anyone noticed at the time or not (after all, as Nietzsche remarked, often “Thoughts that move the world enter on dove’s feet”), a change in the very structure of significance, or signs, signifying, and significations - a change of the entire cultural-existential context of meaning, not just one more meaningful (or meaningless) occurrence among all the others."

    So as an Event 9/11 never happened and Bush the second wouldn't let it do to the war on terror which will never end....

    If you are addicted to 9/11 truth as the "All" of truth then this article will explode the dissonance as your ox gets gored...

    Your articles clarified this for me. 9/11 is a huge distraction from truth and not at all the "truth"...


    “Thoughts that move the world enter on dove’s feet”

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    thanx

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    Wade,

    I once was a Calvinist since most or all Evangelicals are such.

    http://founders.org/fj19/what-should...and-calvinism/

    I read a little of the article but that is what is basically preached in most American churches today at least for folks that go to church....

    Speaking of Dylan, he went through a period in the early 80's when he became an evangelical and went to the same church as Hal Lindsey of "late great planet earth" fame. Big seller for the fundies I can tell ya!

    However Dylan never stayed on as an evangelical.... His wonderful album Slow "Train Coming..." show's how he has it pretty much figured out....


    "Slow Train"

    Sometimes I feel so low-down and disgusted
    Can't help but wonder what's happening to my companions
    Are they lost or are they found, have they counted the cost it'll take to bring down
    all their earthly principles they're gonna have to abandon ?
    There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

    I had a woman down in Alabama
    She was a backwoods girl, but she sure was realistic
    She said, Boy, without a doubt, have to quit your mess and straighten out
    You could die down here, be just another accident statistic
    There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

    All that foreign oil controlling American soil
    Look around you, it's just bound to make you embarrassed
    Sheiks walking around like kings, wearing fancy jewels and nose rings
    Deciding America's future from Amsterdam and to Paris
    And there's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

    Man's ego is inflated, his laws are outdated, they don't apply no more
    You can't rely no more to be standing around waiting
    In the home of the brave, Jefferson turning over in his grave
    Fools glorifying themselves, trying to manipulate Satan
    And there's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

    Big-time negotiators, false healers and woman haters
    Masters of the bluff and masters of the proposition
    But the enemy I see wears a cloak of decency
    All non-believers and men stealers talking in the name of religion
    And there's slow, there's slow train coming up around the bend.

    People starving and thirsting, grain elevators are bursting
    Oh, you know it costs more to store the food than it do to give it
    They say loose your inhibitions, follow your own ambitions
    They talk about a life of brotherly love, show me someone who knows how to live it
    There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

    Well, my baby went to Illinois with some bad-talking boy she could destroy
    A real suicide case, but there was nothing I could do to stop it
    I don't care about economy, I don't care about astronomy
    But it's sure do bother me to see my loved ones turning into puppets
    There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

    Dylan was lead in but lead the way out....

    thanx


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    Hi:

    I woke up at 2:00 AM to write this one. It relates to my previous post, and I want to take it to the next level, which my big essay does not really address, because hardly anybody is really ready to think in those terms, but the choir will.

    The Epochal changes that await the public adoption of FE are truly difficult to even imagine, and here are some logical outcomes of it.

    Early features of humanity and civilization that will disappear will be race, different languages, cities as we know them, and nations.

    FE and the attendant technologies that already exist will soon mean the end of most moving part technology. That will mean that a "machine" could last for 10,000 years with no maintenance. We are already seeing the early indicators of this, with no-moving-part computers. That is just one of many advances that will mean the end of working for a living. The "workday" of the average person, to make civilization run, will be something like an hour a day. Nobody will do anything that they find distasteful, but will do what turns them on. Nobody will think of it as "work."

    This is not some airy-fairy, New Age vision, but logical outcomes of what FE and abundance means. Without FE, virtually none of it can happen, but with FE, it all begins becoming feasible.

    So, the idea of possessions and property becomes obsolete, including intellectual property, and a preview of that is what I have done. It took seven years of unpaid labor to create my website, after I survived my adventures, and it is free to the world. I had to sacrifice my life to do that, but when nobody has to work for a living, they will do something like that because it is fun and they see a need for it. And it will be given away. The author will be recognized as the author, but the writer will not do it to make money, become famous, and the like, but because it will help. People will come up with bright ideas because they want to make the world a better place to live in for all of its denizens, not to get rich and famous. The desire for riches and "fame" will also become obsolete.

    Again, I have long used that account by Roads as glimpse of what that world can look like, and again, I see that world as just the logical outcome of where we can go.

    For instance, the ideas of obesity and starvation will disappear, as both are the result of dysfunctional relationships to energy. With the food supply that FE makes possible, the human diet will be ideal. It will almost certainly be vegetarian. There will be no disease or sickness, and virtually all "medicine" will be preventive.

    Humanity is the only great ape that has conscious control over its breathing, which is why humans can swim, but as we become a truly sentient species, we will likely gain conscious control over other bodily functions. I have read it in channeled material about "ET" races, and if we do not gain conscious control over it, we will come close: women will only conceive when they want to. Women will not be subject to trying to trap a man into an economic relationship known as the nuclear family, and men will no longer try to dominate women. Rape and sexual coercion will disappear, for reasons that humans today can barely fathom. The nuclear family will largely, if not completely, disappear. It will just be obsolete, as it is largely an economic institution. Again, when the bonobos' food supply doubled, they developed a social organization radically different from chimps'. A male bonobo gets his status from his mother, and infanticide disappeared. That radical change in social organization barely hints at how human social organization will change. Again, no cities, no nuclear families, no workday, no property, no coercion, no "foreign" languages, no ethnicity. They just all become obsolete, and marked a phase of the human journey that was no longer "necessary," and everybody was happy to see them go, just as few want to bring back slavery as an institution.

    That is the level of the conversation that the choir will eventually reach, but there is heavy lifting to do to even begin to imagine it, as those in the choir have to learn to jettison the assumptions of scarcity that pervade our world and thoughts. A world based on abundance looks and feels almost nothing like what today's world does. And again, all of those changes that I am referring to in this post are really not even very hard to understand, if people begin to understand what abundance means. I know that there is plenty about that world that Roads visited that I have a hard time imagining, but trying to wrap my mind around it sure is fun.

    Back to bed.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Not quite ready to lie down yet, but as an addendum to the previous post, I do not like using war analogies, but the aphorism that all battle plans look great until the first shot is fired is appropriate. A gentler analogy is that all business plans look great until they are put into execution. Nothing ever goes according to plan for stuff like that, and it will be the same way for making FE happen. FE newbies and those unfamiliar with running businesses and the like often want the entire road mapped before they will budge, and play boy general in making elaborate battle plans. That is a useless way to approach the issue.

    The only way to do it that I know of is to know the goals, guiding principles, and a general idea of how to get there; then you go, and make up a lot of it as you go. If you have the talent and gumption, you will adapt to the circumstances as they arise, but you keep your goal and principles in mind. Sometimes, if you get to what you thought was your goal, you realize that there are more goals ahead of you, and it is the mark of wisdom to know that it is the journey, not the destination so much, that is important. But for epochal change, the destination is important, and vitally so.

    What my choir idea is intended to do is help people understand the goals, general principles, and ideas on ways that it could go, but anybody who thinks that they can follow some cookbook to make FE happen obviously has had no experience in trying. I do not plan to mount an effort in which death is constantly being rained down on us, as my days with Dennis turned out to be, and I am not going for some lowest-common-denominator Level 10 effort in which I appeal to herd ideologies, but I am shooting for a heart-centered sentience approach, which has never been tried before. So, it should go easier, but that will be because we will have numbers that will not be easily defeated by a little organized suppression. If one of us goes down, the others keep the goals and principles in mind, and keep going. Again, this will be the biggest event in the human journey, and there will be nothing easy about it. My prerequisites of digesting my big essay, learning to sing, and being a real person are trifling requirements for the magnitude of the task, and that seemingly high bar is partly there to dissuade those who are not serious about it.

    OK, now it is time to lie down for a little while.

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    Hi Nine:

    The American religious scene is kind of a three-ring circus, and most of the conspiracist culture arises from there. Being an American, you cannot escape that scene, and I studied it for years before I finally figured it out, with the magical holy books, rich television ministers and their harems, and the rest. The New Age is a variation of that peculiar American marriage of religion and commerce. No answers are coming from there. I recall Dylan's dalliance with religion. Everybody looking and thinking that they "Found it!"

    The only thing really worth discovering is inside us. Eventually, we all become Level 19s, but not anytime soon on this planet.

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    Hi:

    Briefly, between chores…

    My original website deconstructed most of the dominant scarcity-based ideologies. I am an American, so I could best deconstruct American nationalism, but anybody of any nation could deconstruct his/her nation's mythology. The USA is one of the more unique exercises in nationalism. It is an empire that pretends it isn't, although it has been increasingly admitted in the 21st century.

    I discovered the hard way that capitalism is a racket of global proportions. All religions have been rackets since the first civilization, and religion was intertwined with warfare from the beginning, but I am most familiar with the Judeo-Christian religions. Archeologists and historians can find almost no support for the tales that gird those religions. The Bible and Koran are probably 10% fact and 90% fantasy, so how the heck can people interpret those books as some literal truth? I know people who worship the Bible itself. Fringe scholars such as Velikovsky and Sitchin used literal interpretation of ancient texts to support their hypotheses. Shaky, shaky. Materialism and its related ideologies are also built on a false foundation, although they are subtler and appeal to the "smart."

    During my days with Dennis, conspiratorial literature was the first "alternative" material that I encountered. Dennis is a literalist Christian, and many in my circles are like him. It comes with being a white American. I subscribed to The Spotlight for years, at the same time that I was digesting Chomsky and the Left. It was all very educational, and I eventually saw the virtues and limitations in each end of that spectrum. I have a couple of bookcases filled with Left and Right scholarship (most is Left, as there really is not much "scholarship" from the Right).

    I recall ordering some right wing stuff once, and in their literature package, when you laid it out, with the halves on the table, on one side was the Ten Commandments and on the other was the Bill of Rights. I think that that juxtaposition kind of sums up that political stripe, and conspiracies explain everything, in their worldview. Many times, I have been called a "conspiracy theorist" as a way to dismiss me. Such critics have never engaged the substance of my work.

    The bottom line is that right, left, and center are united in viewing the world through a victim's lens. The way out is to don creator's lenses, which means to look through the eyes of love, not fear. In that, I have not seen anybody better Jesus's message, which still comes through, even in that politically influenced tract called the New Testament. That is still the key to FE.

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    Hi:

    Another brief one…

    This year, there has been a lot of fear directed toward computers, and Hawking led the way, but he was far from alone. Hawking calls the development of true AI the biggest event in the human journey, and maybe the last. So, I guess that he sees it as being bigger than FE.

    Of course, this has been a sci-fi theme since computers were invented. As I see it, the problem is fear, not "intelligence." As long as chemistry, genetic "engineering," IT, energy, and related industries are developed in capitalistic frameworks in which greed is the salient principle, or in governments, which are obsessed with national security and weapons applications, we indeed toy with our self-destruction. Go back to those Roads worlds. They were both technologically advanced, but one was in the service of fear, and the other was love. IMO, the right questions are not being asked. Until Godzilla's existence is acknowledged, and how today's world is completely in thrall to greed, people like Hawking will be hacking at branches.

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    Hi:

    Yesterday I got word that Keith Lampe died. He lived in Ecuador and was one of Brian's pals. Keith lined up the first interview that I ever had published, back in 2008. Keith was a veteran and a hippie who led Vietnam War led protests nearly 50 years ago and was arrested repeatedly, so he went way back. Keith was also Adam's pal, and I received regular emails from Keith on various topics, particularly the energy issue, climate change, and chemtrails and related skullduggery. His YouTube account is here.

    Keith will be missed.

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    Hi:

    Last night, I reflected on Keith's passing. His generation (my parents' generation) is dying off, and my FE fellow travelers are mostly old or dead. As I read headlines and articles about geopolitical events, everything is careening toward a global catastrophe, and nearly everybody is either oblivious or hacking at branches, at most.

    That issue of people not understanding the relationship between energy and the economy is mirrored by analysts not making the connection between our invasion of Iraq and oil, as surreal as that might seem. As I have written, such ignorance is fully encouraged by our indoctrination and propaganda systems, as the human herd is managed. Neoclassical economic theory dominates the profession, which sees no connection between energy and economics, as economic activity is purely some kind of social phenomenon and the "free market" can solve any problem. Never mind that there has never been a free market in the history of the world. Those dominant ideologies are the adult equivalent of believing in Santa Claus (or the Easter Bunny). Nationalism is very similar, as children are taught literal fairy tales.

    Those dominant ideologies are pabulum for the masses, and all imperial ideologies have been notable for their childishness, which brings up the notion of whether humans really are sentient (or whether being an adult means much). Unfortunately, the ideologies of the "smart" are also built on false foundations, and the naïveté of the "smart" is notable.

    Because of those defects of understanding, people hack at branches if they hack at all, but the vast majority just shuffles along in their fearful and egocentric pursuits in a world of scarcity and quiet desperation. Extremely few of my readers have what I am looking for, but I do not need many for my idea to work. But the level of integrity and sentience that my approach requires will have never been amassed on Earth before. So, I am sympathetic to those who think that my plan does not have a prayer, but I do not see anything else with a prayer, either. Waking up is the answer, but for more than 99.9% of humanity, they will not wake up until the means for waking up are delivered to them. It is just the reality of the world that we live in and the species we belong to.

    Sometimes I sit back and take that all in, and really wonder about it all, particularly regarding my journey. While a voice in my head led me on my journey (1, 2, 3), I woke up the hard way. Does it always have to be the hard way? I do not know anybody who woke up the easy way, probably because the path of least resistance is digesting one's indoctrination and becoming part of the thundering herd that is quickly heading towards the cliff.

    While waking up to the FE milieu's reality can be life-risking if you do it "in the field," people can wake up to recognize their conditioning in other ways, and I encourage that, rather than rushing out to "do something" in the FE field, unless people want to consider their lives forfeit before they begin.

    I know that if I could find and train those 5,000-7,000 singers, FE would be a done deal, but even if my efforts only contribute 0.1% to helping the biggest event in the human journey manifest, it will be worth this man's life. Even if it is all futile, and I have a front-row seat to humanity's sled ride to oblivion, I believe that learning is never wasted, and becoming a truly sentient being is our purpose for being here. The dream of a healed humanity and planet has sustained me from the beginning, but if you had told me what I was in for, I would not have believed you. Brian expressed similar sentiments in his last years, and I understand.

    Time for chores.

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    "Does it always have to be the hard way? I do not know anybody who woke up the easy way..."

    Interesting. I would argue that at this point in time there is definitely a percentage of the population who never were very "un-awake", and lots more who shake off the drowsiness without a lot of effort. And I think there is a commonality among a great many of these sorts of people. They are the ones who came into this life without most of the subconscious baggage that might pull them back into slumber.

    An example of what I'm talking about: A girl in her 20s who was raised by strict muslim parents, or by strict fundamentalist christian parents, one day decides to switch. The parents are outraged. They can't fathom this kind of thing. But those who understand the effects of reincarnation on the subconscious might argue that this person could have been a catholic for the past 5 lifetimes, and when starting a new life as muslim, (or vice versa) was unable to resist the pull to revert back to the religion of her past. Sort of like coming home, not abandoning her true faith as the parents would see it.

    I believe people who are struggling against this kind of subconscious past history will always be difficult to "awaken" by reaching out to them. Rather, something has to tease their curiosity first, and then they next have to summon some rarely possessed amount of courage to strain against all the past beliefs they've lived with, in order to make any progress toward the fuller truth of things.

    This brings us to those who do not enter this generation with lots of subconscious ballast like that. Quite the opposite, people who are here who lack that experience of multiple lifetimes of dictated faith or excessive superstition will shake off the slumber and "awaken" much easier to your message. The comprehensive understanding you are trying to encourage will also be in lots of ways like a kind of coming home to the truth that they already knew before jumping into this lifetime. It won't be learning for them, it will be remembering.

    It may be obvious by now that I'm referring to a class of folks who have been given a certain nickname. Some call them starseed or starchild. Some are called ETs having a human experience. Some are just cosmic wayfarers who became attracted to Earth when passing by and couldn't resist the temptation to check it out more fully. Some took a specific sympathy for the way things were headed here and chose to come at this time to offer what they could to help right the ship.

    Hopefully more and more of these folks will find their way to Avalon and catch onto your thread, or find their way to the healed planet forum.

    Ever give any thought to doing more than hoping they will come by and check out ahealedplanet or project Avalon? Gotta be some shamans you can pass out business cards to... (being metaphorical there)

    (All the usual apologies and forgiveness requirements apply for this question. :-) I'm still catching up, and it's likely been covered already, like everything else that has cropped up in my head so far.)
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    Hi Seeker:

    More coming later, but just this morning I fired off an email to a site that linked to mine, that runs conferences, and I have been invited to approach them before. So, I reach out here and there, but as Brian and I discovered long ago, there is almost nobody home, anywhere on Earth. It just comes with this territory.

    So, I reach out here and there, but what I am really focusing on now is raising the level of conversation so that it will be interesting, which is why I made my own forum, but there is nothing stopping this thread from reaching lofty heights. I'll write more on that soon.

    To your point about some being more awake than others and the inertia of their baggage, yes, I seek those needles in haystacks who have their minds and hearts open so that they can comprehend my work. Very few can or are willing to. I know that they are very rare on Earth, but only one-on-a-million is enough for my idea to work. I like those odds, and yes, making it more visible is part of the plan, but also a mass-movement approach will not work. Even the so-called progressives blow a fuse when they encounter work like mine. So, I will reach out here and there. I do not expect this to go quickly, and I know that time is short for us to turn the corner. That is all part of the conundrum.

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    Hi:

    I was just driven from a dream in which I was asked to tell my tale to about the world's most famous person, and almost before I began, I realized that my story was too unbelievable. If my life's story was ever fully told (which includes some other people, such as Dennis, Brian, Mr. Professor, and Mr. Mentor), almost nobody would believe it. Being asked to go to Mars, or being offered a billion dollars to go away, was the least of it. I may not ever be able to publicly tell the full story, in order to protect people. I wonder if I would believe my story, if somebody told it to me. That is just part of the journey, and one reason of several why somebody like me cannot just turn my back on it. The gravity of experiencing events that almost nobody can believe makes a deep impression on those living them. I could probably not stop, even if I wanted to, but having this star to steer by, and also wanting to avoid being in this movie, is plenty of motivation, even putting aside my preposterous journey.

    I have a few posts rolling around in my head, and will make them in coming days.

    I was asked to watch this video in which Hungarian-American analyst George Freidman is interviewed about Romania's issues as Russia and the USA play their games in the region. I prefer reading, and this article reflects the video pretty well. He is a smart man (and not being born as an American weighs in his favor ), and I just ordered two of his books, and will have more to say after I have read them, but a few comments.

    All national destinies have always been based on the energy issue, first and foremost, and it was no different in that conversation with Friedman or his article. Romania is in a tough spot. Ever since the Soviet Union collapsed, the USA has been highly active in the region, either through CIA-run covert action (the USA has created the "War on Terror" that it is fighting, in a story right out of 1984), or bombing (Yugoslavia), or invasion (Afghanistan and Iraq), and the USA has everything to do with what we are seeing in Syria today, or what happened in Libya, etc. But it is not like the USA was not highly active in the region previously, such as instigating the war in Afghanistan in the 1980s, overthrowing the Iranian government in 1953, arming both sides in the Iraq-Iran war, etc.) and so on. Basically, if a nation allowed the West to plunder its resources, energy resources above all (and exploiting cheap labor is always good for profits ), by far, then it could have a "stable" relationship with the USA. While South Korea is fearful of the USA, the "deal" has been a relatively good one for them, as they have played ball.

    The USA has been Terror Central since the 1980s, and the Military-Industrial Complex that Eisenhower warned against was likely behind the murder of JFK and its resultant cover-up. The USA has been making the world safe for capitalism for a long time.

    In the big picture, the industrialized world is burning through its hydrocarbon deposits a million times as fast as they were created, and everything else is noise. The shale oil and other dregs-mining operations are no solution at all, but make for all sorts of geopolitical maneuvering. It is the geopolitical maneuvering level of the game that Friedman is playing at, and as such, no important answers will come from analyses like his.

    The most important issues on Earth are being dealt with (or not dealt with) a few levels above the game that Friedman sees. Humanity's fate likely will be dictated by what is happening at Godzilla's level of the game, but he can only play his games because humanity is asleep. Revolutionaries like Dennis, Brian, and I are pests, and Godzilla and friends pay attention to us, sometimes trying to wipe us out (1, 2) and sometimes cheering us on. But if efforts like mine go nowhere, then by default, because humanity is fast asleep and has abdicated its personal responsibility, its fate will be dictated by ultra-elites who see the mass of humanity like an expendable herd of cattle that can be milked and then slaughtered when their utility has expired. It is fairly easy for me to imagine a lot of what is happening in their heads, as when you have adventures like mine, Dennis's, Brian's, and so on, it is easy to get disgusted with humanity, wonder if we are really a sentient species, and so on. The difference is that we want to uplift humanity from its condition, and Godzilla wants to keep humanity there so that it can be readily exploited.

    Until analysts like Friedman can raise their eyes a bit, they will be playing a small game, similar to the game that White Science plays today. They are not privy to the game being played at the high levels, which renders geopolitical analysis and the pursuit of White Science pretty meaningless. Of course, nobody likes being told that they have not even glimpsed the big picture, which renders their work a meaningless footnote to these times, so FE and its organized suppression is denied by those smart analysts and scientists as contrary to the "laws of physics" and a "conspiracy theory," such are the games that Level 3s play. We have to let go of the idea that what we have been taught reflects reality, but since people have invested their strategies for survival in those fairy tales, they do not want to give them up. Only the rare person with sufficient personal integrity, who does not settle for the comforting fictions dished out by the cultural managers, is going to be very helpful for making FE manifest.

    Those whose minds are captured by the dominant ideologies hack at branches if they hack at all. We need to aim for the root.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    One of the rather depressing aspects of how my work is perceived on the Internet is that my energy writings have been well down the list of what readers find interesting. I just saw another fluoride link today, and that email that I fired off yesterday to a global "progressive" organization also linked to my fluoride essay. My Columbus and American Empire essays get a lot of play, especially around Columbus Day, and I may be best known for my medical racket writings. My little essay that exposed Paul Bragg has been perhaps the most read essay on my site, and my "conspiracy" essay is always very popular.

    But my energy writings, including my adventures with Dennis and Brian – those are not so popular. If there is any good news to report on that score, my big essay has 561 hits this morning for the month so far, one more than the Bragg essay! But the Columbus and American Empire essays are the most popular, at a thousand hits each. So, my big essay made it to number three this month so far, but Bragg may well edge it out. At least my big essay comprises my post popular energy writings so far.

    As I have often stated, I am looking for quality, not quantity. I would rather have one surfer who went deep on my big essay and did not come up for air for months than ten thousand surfers who skimmed it and moved on. But the way that my big essay is being received so far reflects the kind of inertia that work like mine faces. FE dwarfs the medical, geopolitical, "conspiratorial," and other issues, but not many people are interested in it.

    OK, anecdote time. I recently wrote about watching Interstellar, and yesterday I saw Big Hero 6. Yes, they are Hollywood fantasies, but the way that they dealt with energy reflects those issues that I have been writing about, in that almost nobody understands or seems to want to.

    I probably would not write much about Interstellar except for that it is being lauded for its scientific accuracy. What a hoot, and I will just take on one aspect of the energy issue that is ridiculous as depicted in that movie. The craft that zips between planets was launched from Earth like Space Shuttles were, and that craft was about the size of a Space Shuttle and looked like one. When a Space Shuttle entered Earth orbit, it only had enough fuel to do a little maneuvering and get in position to slide back down the gravity well to Earth. It could not have even broken Earth orbit to go to the moon, for instance. All of those huge rockets on the landing pad were there just to boost the shuttle into orbit. If you studied the moon landings, you understood how each stage of the mission put smaller and smaller payloads forward into the journey, and the LM was a paper-thin craft that lightly landed and took off, and even then had to leave most of itself on the Moon. So, just landing a little craft on the one-sixth gravity Moon and returning to Earth used up all of that fuel that you saw on the landing pad.

    In Interstellar, that Shuttle-like craft hooked up with a space station, and the craft was then propelled to Mars. A "funny" part for me was that it was a more elaborate version of the arrangement that was conceived when Brian was asked to go to Mars, in that spinning craft simulated gravity, and it was going to be a slow boat to Mars. In the mission that NASA had in mind for Brian, it would take about a year to get to Mars, so that part of the movie was pretty consistent with NASA's Mars plans. But Brian was not going to land on Mars, but just go into orbit and perform surveillance and experiments. There would not have been enough fuel to land on Mars and take back off, not by a long shot. Nothing using chemical rockets will be taking off from Mars anytime soon, which came from Earth.

    In Interstellar, that Shuttle-like craft landed and took off from two Earth-like planets, and landed on a third, all with chemical rockets. That would be like me running a marathon across the USA without eating, or driving across the USA on one tank of gas. There has to be a huge suspension of reality for scenarios like that depicted in Interstellar to make any sense at all, and I suppose that my background makes my radar go up where I encounter Hollywood's nonsense. The Star Trek franchise at least did not ignore the energy issue, even if they had to concoct dilithium crystals to make it work. So, Hollywood making "realistic" movies that ignore the energy issue is part and parcel of people not understanding the relationship between energy and economics, ignoring the role that energy plays in the USA's invasions of west Asia, and so on.

    Similarly, while Big Hero 6 was a fun little jaunt, and was on the level of a children's cartoon, there was all this emphasis on high technology, but the robot protagonist ran out of power early in the movie, so had to be plugged into a home's electric outlet to get recharged. Then the teenage boy protagonist revamped the medical robot for martial applications, and that version could fly, using chemical rockets that came from its feet. Again, if they make it dilithium or something mythical like that, at least there is some plausibility, but that robot would have needed a fuel tank a thousand (million?) times as large as it was to fuel its aerobatics in that movie. But just put some burners on its feet and hands, and it has unlimited power. Again, it was a children's movie, but that kind of irrational ignorance of the energy issue is pervasive, in children's movies, economic models, and in most people's minds, believe it or not, and IMO, those situations are related.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I have been making quite a few posts lately, but will be a little quiet this weekend. One of those posts rolling around in my head lately is the kinds of discussions that I hope to see here at Avalon, and will be the point of my forum. I have some readers going deep, in digestion mode, and they are probably going to have some good topics of discussion and helpful insights. More than three months ago, I began making chapter summaries to begin the discussion of my big essay.

    Not much as really happened on that front anywhere yet, but here are some examples of the kinds of discussions that can be fruitful and help people develop that comprehensive perspective. Here goes.


    Q: Wade, regarding that Last Universal Common Ancestor ("LUCA") that all life on Earth is supposedly descended from, it was an amazingly complex organism, with DNA, enzymes, ATP, sugars, fats, ribosomes, and a cellular membrane. That it somehow self-organized itself from random molecules and created all of those complex chemical cycles beggars the imagination, and I know that you leave open the question of whether LUCA was the result of a design of some sort (which implies a designer), but if it did somehow self-organize, how long might life have been around before LUCA arrived?

    A: Great question. The simple life that existed before complex life arose was extraordinarily innovative, far more than complex life is, from a biochemical perspective. In some ways, evolution has sped up, in others ways, however, it stopped. Life has never abandoned DNA, enzymes, membranes, and the like, and many basic life processes have not changed in billions of years. I think that it may well be similar to the situation in which no significant animal phyla have appeared since the Cambrian Explosion. Those life processes and structures worked, and as the entire foundation of the organism was based on those molecules and cycles, changing the foundation would topple the entire structure. That is why certain sections of DNA have not changed for hundreds of millions of years, because they are the blueprint for the foundation of body structures.

    I think that scientists would agree that other life existed when LUCA appeared, maybe one heck of a lot of it, but LUCA's life processes were superior to anything else, and everything else either died off or was driven to extinction, as LUCA was better at the energy and resource acquisition game. Just how long life (an organism that could live independently and reproduce itself) existed before LUCA might be one of the more enduring questions of biology, and probably unanswerable to science, at least for what happed on Earth. Scientists may one day artificially create life, if they have not already on Godzilla's labs, but if they do, it will only show what may have happened billions of years ago on Earth, not what did happen. There may never be any evidence adduced for pre-LUCA life on Earth, but scientists may be able to put estimates on the processes that could have led to DNA (RNA is almost certainly a precursor molecule).

    If I think about pre-LUCA life, one thing that stands out is that Earth would have had to have cooled down enough and become stable enough for that early life to survive. As we see with extremophiles, early life might be been far hardier than we might think, so even in the Hadean Earth, when Earth was being bombarded with planetesimals, which boiled off the entire ocean and resulted in "rains" that are hard to imagine, life may have been able to somehow eke out an existence. But I would think that life would have had a hard time existing before those fireworks largely ended about four billion years ago. LUCA is estimated to have lived between 3.8 and 3.5 billion years ago, so the window of life appearing and leading to LUCA may be a half billion years, or "only" a couple hundred million years. It is pretty mind boggling to think in those timescales, but my guess is that a couple hundred million years of evolution was plenty to ramp up for LUCA to appear. Although it is all in the microscopic realm, it can be quite a mental exercise to think about what other kinds of life may have existed before LUCA.


    Q. Wade, those geochemical cycles, such as the carbon cycle, the nitrogen cycle, and the like, are necessary for life on Earth to exist, and the carbon cycle has been slowing due to decreased volcanism. How successful do you think that humans can be in reproducing those cycles on off-world environments, and how important do you think it will be to bring the carbon cycle back to its preindustrial dynamics, and do you think that bringing carbon dioxide levels back to preindustrial levels is a good idea?

    A: Great questions, and this is Wade the Accountant writing here ( ), so my opinion is certainly not one that you can take to the bank. One of the many realizations that hit me as I studied for my big essay and wrote it was that Earth has worn many faces, life has had many tumultuous chapters, with mass extinctions, golden ages of adaptive radiations and other expansions, and some pretty wild fluctuations in levels of oxygen and carbon dioxide in particular. Life adapted, and in ways that we would have to call ingenious, but there was nobody on Earth as smart as humans, so the ways that life adapted can be awe-inspiring to consider.

    From what I know of technologies that already exist and others that would not be hard to develop from the current state of publicly acknowledged technology, it will not be hard to have environmental controls for artificially created environments, either sitting on the ocean floor, underground, or off-world, so that the air's water content and the composition of gases such as oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide could be maintained similar to how a thermostat keeps a house at the proper temperature, as the furnace or air conditioner, and even humidifier, comes on as needed.

    With FE and attendant technologies, you could do that with Earth. I think that moving carbon dioxide levels back to preindustrial levels should be a point of discussion between an enlightened humanity and Earth herself. Even if Earth has no consciousness (which I doubt, although the Gaia concept may have competition from the Medean concept), humanity should consider the impacts of increasing the carbon dioxide levels in the Hydrocarbon Age and decide if Earth and her denizens are better off with lower levels. There are many ramifications, and today, there is not a group that I would trust to make those decisions, but if we turn the corner, it would be a mature and responsible thing to do. As I write this, acidifying oceans because of hydrocarbon burning are already driving species to extinction. But reducing the carbon dioxide levels will likely cause a return of the continental ice sheets. Climate scientists today have estimated that humanity has already delayed the onset of the next ice sheets by 50,000 years or so.

    If humanity has its Fifth Epochal Event, it literally will not matter if the ice age resumes or not, as it will not affect human welfare. The big danger, as scientists see it, is humanity artificially inducing Greenhouse Earth conditions, which our hydrocarbon burning ways could induce. The last time that Earth went from icehouse to greenhouse conditions, Earth had its greatest mass extinction event. So, if we grow up as species and truly become sentient, those decisions are ahead of us. I think that humanity has the capacity to choose wisely, but today not many demonstrate it. We will have to grow up a lot more before those questions can be addressed, IMO. We can grow up fast if we turn the corner, however.


    Those are some examples, and more may be coming.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Quickly, to further reply to Seeker's thoughtful post, yes, it comes down to what it will take to awaken. My experience is that almost nobody on Earth will awaken to the abundance idea via talk. Scarcity is just too deeply baked, as Fuller noted. As Machiavelli noted, people like me have few allies, many enemies, and the incredulous masses will not begin to understand unless the means of abundance are delivered into their lives, and that means FE and only FE. Nothing else can do it.

    I have been involved with several mass movement FE efforts (Level 10), and none stood a prayer, largely because the people involved did not have the right stuff to both pursue FE in a productive way and to also not succumb to the tactics of organized suppression, of which Godzilla is only the apex predator.

    As I learned the hard way, the mass movement mentality will not work for helping the biggest event in the human journey manifest. We cannot carry our scarcity-based baggage with us to manifest abundance. So, I seek those who can at least imagine abundance before somebody delivers the means to it to their doors. I do not ask for much "faith," either. Anybody who does their homework will know that organized suppression of alternative energy technology is very real, and it does not take much imagination to realize that FE would be the five-alarm fire for the suppressors. What Dennis experienced simply with his heat pump, or our relatively mundane efforts in Ventura, should be enough to erase any doubts. Testimony from people such as Brian should only be icing on the cake. I provide plenty of testimony from fellow travelers, such as Mark, so that people can understand how it works. On a conceptual level, it really is not very hard to understand the situation, but the vast majority of humanity prefers denial or oblivion. The global elites have the means, motive, and opportunity to suppress FE, and it is also not too imaginative to think that they have squirreled away the good stuff for themselves, and my fellow travelers have also reported about some of the goodies that Godzilla has salted away, his crazy contingency plans, etc.

    There is plenty of chaff, disinformation, and wild tales in the milieu, but I stay away from anything that I have not witnessed or was witnessed/experienced by a very small group of fellow travelers around me. That way, I stay away from the innumerable rabbit holes that beckon, and few lead anywhere, anyway.

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