Is Russell Brand a Rothschild shill?

[Billy]

I can only share my personal thoughts as everyone else has.

One important piece of the puzzle, is to remember that you are ALL important pieces of the puzzle that creates the bigger picture. The picture is continuous work in progress. Russell has his individual personal vision of how he sees the bigger picture as do many other alternative thinkers, David Icke, D,W. to many to mention, whether they are influenced by the controllers vision of the picture or not, to me is not important, it only becomes important when other folks influence is fed energy and allowed to become a distraction that steers the individual away from personal and collective conscious vision from the changes you want to see in our world.

As i say there are many with visions, they are all sign posts, pointing this way and that way. But if you find yourself at a junction standing still, pointing to one sign post saying "this sign post is pointing in the wrong direction". You become distracted from moving forward and are not going anywhere. We all have the choices whether to stand still pointing fingers or move forwards.

Peace.

P.S. Russell helped to awaken my daughter. I thank him for that. Now she tries to move on from anger and frustration. All part of the journey.

[wishinshow]

@donk an artificial intelligence might approach the discussion in the manner outlined in your bullet points. I'm a flawed human who, at times, values gossip and humour. I also like to dance, sing, play the guitar and do yoga. I haven't yet found a way to compute the reason why! And until Russell starts inviting forum members over for a cup of tea or a quick shag; we'll need to stick to mindless gossip about the inner workings of a cult celebrity's life.

[avid]

So - what's the outcome of Russell Brand being a sort-of shill? Married to illuminati Katy Perry, indoctrinated into vile atrocities, shocked into revulsion of 'said' experiences, and possibly having some sort of 'mind-control' as his 'get-out clause' to release him from the 'Katy Perry' vilification. He's trying to make it right? The high and mighty in the media today are all singing from the same Satanic "Hymn-sheet" - otherwise - they would never be there. Please listen to those who are desperately trying to escape, there are many, and we should listen.

[wishinshow]

I'm a bit scared to post it. And i would love to see a vote on the issue!!!

Edit: or maybe after Billy's kind words, I view a vote on the direction of the branded sign post, as irrelevant. After all, and as Yazz said, if we don't want to go in the direction of a socialist revolution, the only way is up! Baby

[21g]

@ wishinshow - Brand does Yoga Be afraid !

Just pulling your leg.

I really appreciate humour aswell. Keeps the mind open.
Thanks for the good thread.

G.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by wishinshow (here)
@dennis. I agree with you. We all planted the bombs in those two skyscrapers, as well. I'm not being sarcastic. I really do believe that we all planted those bombs. Collective consciousness. And maybe the sun knows we killed 80% of the trees and is giving us a roasting for it. I'm open to that, too. In fact, my head is so damn open, my brain fell out yesterday.

However, I was not talking on that level of abstraction or spiritual dialectic. I was talking about the bricks and mortar of 911 and the CO2 debate. I think you understand that.

So I ask you. Do we pretty much agree?

Um, you've taken a turn I can't follow. I'm not going to go into the "we are all one"/metaphysical aspect (which is true, but not relevant to the topic, to me), and twist that to blame humanity for what a few Bad Guys have done. The Universe/God/One didn't plant the bombs in the tower, and I didn't either. I'm pretty sure you didn't either (unless you're making a confession.) There were real people who did, real black-ops people who were following orders, or (and this has been postulated by others as well) maybe some service personnel delivered bomb-rigged vending machines or water coolers or fire extinguishers - without knowing what they were really delivering. But yeah, the whole freaking WTC complex was brought to rubble by bombs. The shutdown of NORAD and the cover-up of everything are absolute indicators that the US government HAD to be in on it, so, yeah, Inside Job (probably with help of the Mossad.) So, I agree with your earlier statements about 9/11, and don't know why you're now taking this "we all planted those bombs" bizarre twist - which I don't agree with.

As for global climate change...
Is the Earth heating up, or not. Let's say it's not. (We'll discard the fact that over 95% of "scientists" in "climate science" fields say we are.) Now let's get a guillotine and remove the heads of the globalist oligarchs and their minions that foisted a carbon tax on us. Alright, where are we now? Unless the global empires of the Energy Mafia were destroyed by removing a few of those heads, then they still exist - and together with the bankers (who are way too smart to get their heads chopped off) still rule planet Earth. To me, we live on a Blue Gem, filled with a stunning array of biological diversity relatively in balance, and relatively in flux (evolution, climate cycles, weather patterns, succession.) To the Global Rulers, the Earth is a treasure chest to plunder, most life forms are inconsequential (unless they taste good with ketchup), and humans - better known as "human resources" - are slaves. I sometimes like to call these psychopathic global rulers, "the Bad Guys."

So, The Universe/God/One didn't clearcut 80% of the planet's forests, dig up a billion tons of coal, pump up a billion barrels of oil, the Bad Guys did. (Now we could get metaphysical here, and as a part of Oneness or even a complicit member of humanity, accept part of the blame for what the Bad Guys ordered done. I'm not buying it. I've never clear-cut a forest, or allowed toxic tailings from my mine to run into the streams, or drilled oil and frac-drilled gas wells, or ordered coal-fired power plants to be built, or dumped the toxic sludge from my factory into the aquifer... but the Bad Guys have.)

Let's also take into consideration that these same Bad Guys have been obscuring/reflecting as much sunlight from hitting the Earth, with their aluminum/barium chemtrails, as they possibly could - for DECADES. Any clue why they might be doing that, since global warming is just a carbon tax-based hoax?

As I mentioned, I'm open to the idea that there are solar and/or galactic forces at play with Earth weather, but to pretend that humans are not negatively affecting the climate and causing the 6th mass extinction is just... well, pretending.

Russell Brand actually mentions these same Bad Guys, and he doesn't appear to me to be cheering for them. The Bad Guys don't need Russell Brand (or me, thanks "Donk", first time I've ever been called a shill) shilling for them. They have done a pretty damn good job of taking over planet Earth (while we who believe we are "awake" try to keep them from taking over planet Earth. Oops, too late.)

Dennis

[wishinshow]

@dennis. Thank you so much for the most eloquent post that this thread has, IMHO, seen so far. I have to sleep now and will reply tomorrow. One thing, though. They are spraying metals in the atmosphere to "light up" the cloaked UFOs that they cannot see without the metal.

[Jenya]

So bored of this "so and so is a shill" debate. The guy is incredibly high profile and has put out some incontravertably positive content - there's no doubt at all that this will have made him a target for manipulation and corruption. However, that's true of pretty much anyone with any sort of standing in the movement. Doesn't mean anybody should be outright rejecting the work he is doing. We live in a world where nothing is entirely trustworthy - all you can do is take the positive where you can find it and accept that it's going to be mixed in with some amount of bull****.

Sorry, not very eloquent first contribution to the forum but yegods I am tired.

[wishinshow]

Posted by Billy (here)
it only becomes important when other folks influence is fed energy and allowed to become a distraction that steers the individual away from personal and collective conscious vision from the changes you want to see in our world.

We all have the choices whether to stand still pointing fingers or move forwards.

Would I be correct in thinking that this forum is there to help us work out which signs are pointing in the correct direction and which are not? Is this not what Bill Ryan has helped us all with? This thread was intended by me to allow people a forum to discuss whether or not the Russell Brand road sign is currently pointing us all, in the correct direction, or not. We have only stood still long enough in front of this road sign, to make that very decision (currently less than 24 hours with breaks for cups of tea and a cookie).

I hope many others will read this thread and move onwards and/or upwards, past it.

[wishinshow]

@jenya not everybody is calling for a revolution. Russell brand IS calling for a revolution. I think that most people on this forum would prefer evolution. It's a lot less bloody and I get to keep my silver candle sticks that my grandmother gave me.

[Jenya]

Revolution has a few possible definitions. One is the violent overthrow of government, of which yes, I admit would not be helpful (the violent element specifically), the other, which I think is what he is actually pushing for, is simply "a dramatic and wide-reaching change in conditions, attitudes, or operation".

[wishinshow]

And this dramatic change, has - historically - benefited the few over the many. Fire in the Minds of Men - James Billington.

[Jenya]

Violent revolutionary overthrow has historically benefited the few over the many, yes. But as I wrote in my last post, that's not the definition of the word 'revolution' that he's advocating. He is advocating for "a dramatic and wide-reaching change in conditions, attitudes, or operation" - and he's pretty clear that it should be non-violent.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...n-9554651.html

And isn't that what we all want? I don't see how you can argue that this is an inherently dangerous thing to promote, unless you're happy with the status quo?

[wishinshow]

@Dennis

I feel I have patronised you in my first reply to your original post in this thread and I feel sorry for having done that.

I want to say this. I believe that damage to the environment (in the form of pollution) is not in any way equated with the idea that CO2 is causing an increase in the heat which our planet's greenhouse effect is able to retain. I believe that pollution and the destruction of our natural habitat is terrible. I would like to see us manufacture and employ giant Tesla machines that can purify the oceans of contaminants like mercury. I want to see Tesla power generators that would make wind turbines an irrelevance. If the aliens can manufacture saturn's rings, then we can use the same level of technology to clean up this planet. I would further say that I would like to see a ten times increase in the levels of CO2 in our atmosphere because ALL plants thrive in a high CO2 environment and the level of CO2 in the atmosphere has such a microscopic impact on the greenhouse effect, that one might as well completely factor it out.

I used to be a climate change activist. I used to think that "Albedo enhancement by stratospheric sulphur enhancement" was a great idea. Then 911, and David Icke/Alex Jones woke me up using Lord Monckton and Piers Corbyn.

I repeat myself. Chemtrails are being sprayed to "light up" cloaked UFOs on radar and they get the added benefit of ten more programmes to attack us with morgellons and viruses and a general malaise of the human immune system.

[jackovesk]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
t we can measure them so accurately and that we have enough historical data that we can positively conclude that other planets are heating up at the same rate as Earth

except, earth isn't heating up?


http://www.climate.gov/news-features...ng-past-decade

and anthropomorphic climate change is more of a guilt trip than anything based on science. Lots of negative ego and fear involved in "global warming".

But of course this is just based in logic and data (which shows we go through cycles, warm, then cool and have been forever...)

Now, this doesn't make it untrue that humanity has an effect on the environment, but almost all studies along those lines are based on the logical fallacy "Correlation does not imply causation" which we are trained societaly to accept (especially when leveraged by another popular fallacy Appeal to Authority).

Anyway, I like your thought line; but I think you picked a poor example (an example that is a part of the wide spread divide and conquer techniques that seem to be popping up everywhere).

Agreed TargeT...

All ((Global Warming Fearmongering)) simply comes down to this in a ((Nutshell))...

The ((Elite's)) way of (($$$ Controlling)) the Energy-Supply...

That's ((ALL)) you need to know...

[jackovesk]

FK, I really feel sorry for all those ((Whistleblowers - Good Samaritan's) these days, seems they just can't win no matter what they do...

...and to be brutally honest

Opinionated 'Threads' like this without any ((research/footnotes)) at all, talk about being stuck on a fully-fledged ((Merry-Go-Round)) with no exit point...

Just thought I'd state the 'Obvious' before you begin your next thread "wishinshow"...

[wishinshow]

Thanks for the input, Jackovesk. Peoples opinions are fun. They offer a difference of perspective. Is that not what god is looking for?

[wishinshow]

@jenya Did the non violent industrial revolution benefit us? Did the non violent computer revolution benefit us? Did the green revolution benefit us? The genetics revolution? The genetic modification of our genome by dracos revolution that started all the other revolutions? Or were they all just ways to quickly confuse the majority as the few grabbed more power and gradually weakened Terran hominid's capacities to feel good in the third dimension? Revolution is not a valued word in my vocabulary. People who call for it, are never wise. Don't get me wrong; I'm all for the technology and the wonder that is a society; I just don't want somebody or the majority, pushing it or a new version of it, on me. Henrik Ibsen pointed out - and as we all know on this forum - the majority is always wrong. At least, always wrong, when they live in a reptile prison full to the brim with deceit and falsehood.

My contention is that Brand is either part of this deceit or that he panders to it. I will not pander to their lies, deceit and revolution.

Would I take part in a revolution? Of course I would. Because once the boulder is pushed; it will drag everybody - including me - down the hill with it.

[Jenya]

You're really reaching now, dude. Pretty desperate to protect your negative view, not opening your mind at all. I give up. Enjoy your anger :-S

[wishinshow]

@jenya I understand. Thank you for partaking in the discussion with me. Have a good day.