Smoking Gun Proof of Atmospheric Spraying

[Helvetic]

Smoking Gun Proof of Atmospheric Spraying

Source: GeoengineeringWatch.org

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3r86g9XPL8g

How do we know our skies are being sprayed? Because we have film footage of the crime, of jets spraying at altitude. This is the logical end of any argument or dispute on this issue. Climate engineering is not speculation, it is not theory, it is a verified fact confirmed by film footage. Those that deny what they can see with their own eyes are simply not ready to wake up.

A film of the crime occurring (in this case atmospheric spraying of aerosols from jet aircraft) cannot be rationally disputed. This being said, there is also an enormous amount of additional proof to fully confirm the reality of global geoenginering (lab tests of atmospheric fall out, climate engineering patents, global governance documents, congressional documents, etc), and more proof is added to the existing mountain of data every day.

It's up to all of us to confidently stand our ground when attempting to wake others up to the climate engineering crimes, we absolutely have the proof to confirm the reality of global geoengineering. All of us need to join together in this critical fight. My sincere gratitude to "IT'S the 11th Hour and It is Urgent" -GeoengineeringWatch.org

[Chip]

This has always been hard for me, but to be honest this is hardly definitive evidence.
At one point in my career I was Captain on a Gulfstream 550. This particular aircraft had security cameras that we could activate in flight. One of which was rear mounted and allowed me to view our contrails.
I used this many times to observe contrail formations with the specific intent not to debunk the chemtrail conspirators but to settle my own curiosities in regards to this phenomena.
What I observed was formation of contrails of various sizes that related to specific temps and densities of atmosphere that we were in at the time. Often it looked as though we were hitting a button and turning these off or on, but it was just the conditions of the atmosphere that we were in at the time.
Sometimes our contrails were thick and wider than the span of the wings, which from the ground would look like we were dispensing along the wing much like a agriculture crop duster would be doing.
I have spent 20 years flying corporate aircraft all over the world and I have never seen any aircraft chemspraying nor have I seen an aircraft equipped for this.
Many times I have spoken to friends that have looked up and commented on aircraft with normal contrails that they asserted were chemspraying. At some points I have been accused of being "in" on this, or even a govt shill on other forums.
I am not debunking, just stating what I know and have observed myself as a conscientious observer.
Thanks

[observer]

Perhaps a little research will help. Only through spending the time, doing the research, will understanding conquer ingrained belief systems:

Aerosol Crimes (a.k.a. Chemtrails) 2005 Documentary -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dQuqAtVNnwY

What in the World Are They Spraying? -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j8CkwQeb-uI

And perhaps an investigation into some photographic evidence:

STRANGE DAYS STRANGE SKIES -

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strang...1&m=-1&z=3&x=0

[heyokah]

Posted by Chipsam (here)
This has always been hard for me, but to be honest this is hardly definitive evidence.
At one point in my career I was Captain on a Gulfstream 550. This particular aircraft had security cameras that we could activate in flight. One of which was rear mounted and allowed me to view our contrails.
I used this many times to observe contrail formations with the specific intent not to debunk the chemtrail conspirators but to settle my own curiosities in regards to this phenomena.
What I observed was formation of contrails of various sizes that related to specific temps and densities of atmosphere that we were in at the time. Often it looked as though we were hitting a button and turning these off or on, but it was just the conditions of the atmosphere that we were in at the time.
Sometimes our contrails were thick and wider than the span of the wings, which from the ground would look like we were dispensing along the wing much like a agriculture crop duster would be doing.
I have spent 20 years flying corporate aircraft all over the world and I have never seen any aircraft chemspraying nor have I seen an aircraft equipped for this.
Many times I have spoken to friends that have looked up and commented on aircraft with normal contrails that they asserted were chemspraying. At some points I have been accused of being "in" on this, or even a govt shill on other forums.
I am not debunking, just stating what I know and have observed myself as a conscientious observer.
Thanks

I have one question. How long did those 'contrails of various sizes that related to specific temps and densities of atmosphere', stay in the air after they appeared? For 2 to 4 hours, changing into hazy clouds for the rest of the day? Or did you just 'fly on, never looking behind you'?
And was this within these last 5 years or 20 years ago?

Just curious.

Oh, well, this was more than one question.

[heyokah]

This picture was taken by myself a few weeks ago in France. I live in the Massif Central, a quiet area were there's normally little commercial air traffic.
A party with drunken pilots?

[Chip]

Yes, within the last 5 years. No, obviously i couldn't view how long they remained behind our aircraft.
With regards to the last however. When contrails form they can disperse quite rapidly as well as remain aloft and sink down quite a ways as the moisture contents crystallize and form seemingly unnatural looking clouds, that can remain for a long time.
I am not disputing the chemtrailing argument. However, the large majority of what others say are chemtrails, to me are contrails that have not dispersed due to atmospheric conditions or have crystallized and settled into what appear as clouds (which is basically what they are now).
Now, are they putting chemicals such as Aluminum, Strontium and Barrium in the fuel that we purchase?
I don't know, but can't imagine that the buildup of this type of combination would work well in an engine designed with such high tolerances.
This seems to me the only way that those chemicals that are being found could be dispersed and without the crew or the public knowing.
I am open minded on this subject. I don't know everything, but I can only say what I've seen with my own two eyes.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I still don't know what to think about the physicality of chemtrails.

Because of the Alex Jones expose 3 years ago (linking the Sulfate Aerosol Geoengineering Program to the funding of Bill Gates and also to the oversight of the US government!), and my own firsthand worm's eye view of one of the formerly worst "chemtrail" sites, Seattle WA, it's pretty hard to disbelieve.

The former pilot in this thread mentions air density, temperature, humidity, season as a factor. I wondered about that too. But I'm telling you guys right now, the exhaust DID affect the weather in my area (significantly).

We lived on a hill beside a lake, near 35th Avenue near Lake City Seattle.
Our house was beneath a very heavily used flight path used by many types of jets, prop craft, and helis. In fact SO MANY planes passed over our house on a daily basis that it aggravated my ASD.

But because we lived there and had a camera, not to mention all the Prisonplanet people who have been trying to prove/disprove this particular issue (lol), I had to try.


What I saw was that because the planes were always going over our (poorer) neighborhood (the rich people who live along the lakes and the Puget Sound complained and actually had air traffic diverted over poor n-hoods), we almost always had altered weather.

We'd have a day where the morning was bright and clear, but within an hour of the 'trail dumping, the ENTIRE DAMN SKY over our neighborhood would turn SILVER. Not just charcoal, grey, wet, foggy, or indistinct. I'm literally saying it looked glossy around the sun like a silver coin, rainbow sheen all over the sky as if it had an oily or metallic quality.

You'd expect the sun to be able to burn right through a thin layer of moisture like that, no matter the proximity of the lake -- but nonetheless, my tomatoes died, the jets continued passing over all hours of the day and night, but right before lunchtime almost like clockwork, we'd get our horrible silver skies.


I took countless photographs but did not count the jets or look up "official" paths etc. It didn't seem quite that important at the time, and I had a family member actively resisting my investigation (the adult second cousin I featured in the MKULTRA thread, who happens to be an acquaintance of Gates due to where they live).


Come to think of it, it's a bit silly to blame the government for Chemtrailing when in fact the Gates family has enough money to both hire jets and do the deed, and when they have trouble keeping it quiet, they even have the connections to send your own family to come get you.

@_@

so take it from someone who's been thrown in the hospital partly because of my fascination with the weather caused by overuse of traditional fuel... if they don't **** us up directly they most certainly ruin the nice weather ('trails).




i hope you read this wall of text.

[Jean-Luc]

Posted by Chipsam (here)
I have spent 20 years flying corporate aircraft all over the world and I have never seen any aircraft chemspraying nor have I seen an aircraft equipped for this.

Thanks for your interesting input. With your experience, are there any other constructive ways you could help clarify and address the issue? There is ample evidence through soil and air sample analysis that the contamination problem IS real. Just as no one denies geoengineering as such is real.

My understanding is that there are at least 2 kinds of air spraying:

• those spread by military aircraft at low altitude (that you may never have seen).
• those spread by civilian aircraft at higher altitude (through addidives to the kerosene without pilot knowledge of this), with substances persisting into the air for longer periods of time.

With special additives added to kerosene ranging (including but not restricted to Aluminum, Strontrium and Barium, for all sorts good (?) or bad reasons to be explored), my understanding is that most civil air pilot don't even realize they pollute or spray (analogy: an automobile driver using diesel doesn't realize how nefarious fine particles from his exhaust pipe are).

What if all this had been a gradual process for the last 20+ years and that most air pilots could no longer make a difference between a standard contrail and the contaminated trails their craft produce today?

At least Jeff Nelson, former commercial air-line pilot, disagrees with you here at 27:00 and says that trails seen now are not natural and not normal.
So does Russ Lazuka aviation expert, commercial pilot, and certified arborist, who advised aerosol contaminants in chemtrails are purposely sprayed in the stratosphere.

On July 15th, 2014, citizens from Northern California at the Shasta County Supervisors chambers. The primary purpose of this meeting was to present information that proves there is a very dire heavy metal contamination and UV radiation issue across the Shasta County region (and the world). A list of 10 experts presented data to the board to confirm the legitimacy of the concerns being addressed. At the end of the presentation, the board voted unanimously to investigate the heavy metal contamination and passed resolutions accordingly.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O4WhYKP83zo

SUMMARY

July 15, 2014 351
GENERAL GOVERNMENT, CONTINUED ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE GEOENGINEERING “CHEMTRAILS”

Dane Wigington stated “chemtrails” is not a scientific term; “geoengineering” is the term used for various aircraft trails being observed in the skies.

He discussed the potential composition of chemtrails and their effect on people and requested the Board of Supervisors authorize an investigation and disclosure of the alleged contamination issues. He also said that extensive ultraviolet rays are and exposure to aluminum may contribute to Alzheimer’s disease, dementia, and autism.

In response to questions by Supervisor Schappell, Mr. Wigington replied that the contamination issue is a public health hazard and that disclosure of the heavy metal contamination and the UV issue is necessary and required.

Iraja Sivadas, an instructor of mathematics at Shasta College and a member of Union of Concerned Scientists, said that chemtrails contain aluminum, strontium, barium, and manganese.

Alan Buckman, a wildlife biologist, said chemtrails are a great environmental danger.

Francis Mangles, retired scientist, stated the aluminum in the soil continues to increase dramatically, the ecosystem is unraveling, causing an extreme reduction in insects.

Jeff Nelson, former airline pilot, said the trails seen now are not natural and not normal.

Dr. Hamid Rabiee, neurologist, stated the nanoparticles in chemtrails trigger a program in the brain such as is seen in Alzheimer’s diseas e, which has increased in the last five years.

Russ Lazuka, aviation expert, commercial pilot, and certified arborist, advised aerosol contaminants in chemtrails are purposely sprayed in the stratosphere.

Dr. Frank Livolsi, a physician and pilot, said that aluminum is dangerous and is responsible for the increase in Alzheimer’s disease.

Mark McCandish, a former consultant for aerospace companies, said the immune systems are dramatically suppressed because of airborne particles in chemtrails.

Dr. Steve Davis, chiropractor and naturopath, stated aluminum causes issues with Alzheimer’s disease, autism, and ADHD, and there is a dramatic increase in these illnesses.

http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/docs/BOS/...5.pdf?sfvrsn=2

One last personnal remark.
Today in agriculture pesticides are in a more restrictive way than 20 years ago.
Yet 20 years ago, in the summer, you could hardly drive 500 km without having the front of you car or your windscreen full of crushed insects.

These last 5 years, I've hardly seen any significant amount of crushed insect on my car.
And many of my friends have reported the same.
This seems to be in line with the a/m Francis Mangles, retired scientist, stating the aluminum in the soil continues to increase dramatically, causing an extreme reduction in insects.

[MorningFox]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
i hope you read this wall of text.

I did read it. It sounds like the words of an intelligent, well articulated, perfectly sane and rational person to me. Thanks for sharing.

[Chip]

I have read all of the research on the contaminates found.
As far as commercially, that I am concerned with. The only viable way we could be chemspraying is if there is an additive in our fuel. I'm just a simple Pilot not a chemical engineer. I don't know how they could do this and it not interfere with a jet engine.
Also, just because I've never seen a military aircraft in the act of chemspraying, doesn't mean they aren't.
I'm not going to argue with the fact that other Pilots say that contrails are different now than they have been in the past.
I'm not going to argue with anyone. I'm just stating my observations.
Cheers

[ghostrider]

we may not know exactly why but , the spraying of our atmosphere is so in your face these days ... undeniable ... it's rare to see a clear blue sky anymore ...

[observer]

Posted by Chipsam (here)
This has always been hard for me, but to be honest this is hardly definitive evidence.
At one point in my career I was Captain on a Gulfstream 550. This particular aircraft had security cameras that we could activate in flight. One of which was rear mounted and allowed me to view our contrails.
I used this many times to observe contrail formations with the specific intent not to debunk the chemtrail conspirators but to settle my own curiosities in regards to this phenomena.
What I observed was formation of contrails of various sizes that related to specific temps and densities of atmosphere that we were in at the time. Often it looked as though we were hitting a button and turning these off or on, but it was just the conditions of the atmosphere that we were in at the time.
Sometimes our contrails were thick and wider than the span of the wings, which from the ground would look like we were dispensing along the wing much like a agriculture crop duster would be doing.
I have spent 20 years flying corporate aircraft all over the world and I have never seen any aircraft chemspraying nor have I seen an aircraft equipped for this.
Many times I have spoken to friends that have looked up and commented on aircraft with normal contrails that they asserted were chemspraying. At some points I have been accused of being "in" on this, or even a govt shill on other forums.
I am not debunking, just stating what I know and have observed myself as a conscientious observer.
Thanks

Here's my testimony, Chipsam.

I live on the Jersey Cape very close to an Omni Beacon that aligns the final approach to most of the major airports in the Northeast Corridor. Out here on the Cape, our skies are "dosed" almost every day. I watch the commercial airliners leaving fifteen to thirty second water vapor contrails in exactly the same atmosphere where unmarked (military?) aircraft will leave cris-crossed patterns that morph into a blanket haze. The sun will shine through this haze as if one were looking at an oil slick on a puddle of water.

Several years ago I worked on a construction project at one of the local airports, here on the Cape. I got to interface with a number of pilots. This was when the Cemtrail Issue was first exploding. To a man, each pilot I debated regarding Chemtrails v. Contrails had exactly the same argument as yourself. Who is correct? All I can reiterate is, do the research such as that offered in comment #3.

As a postscript to my personal situation, allow me to add:

In the spring of this year, I began getting strange sores on my legs. Never before have I had such ugly, strange lesions. A filament would be observed growing out of these sores, sometimes more than one filament. Whenever I have gotten one of these, I cut it out with my knife. It bleeds for a while, but heals-over.

If you go to this link, and scroll-down to the section on Morgellons, you will see just what I'm talking about.

I'm convinced this newly developing malady is a direct result of living under the umbrella of chemtrails caused by the North-South air traffic of the Northeast Corridor, out here on the Cape.

We all have the free will to deny what we will. Turning a blind eye to a most obvious eugenics agenda will not make it go away.

This Chemtrail Agenda is directly connected to the H.A.A.R.P. Project, and is directly related to weather warfare. It has a second purpose of depopulating the Masses.

Just my two cents....

More Evidence:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lBjDSNWiuKQ

[ZooLife]

Posted by Jean-Luc (here)

One last personnal remark.
Today in agriculture pesticides are in a more restrictive way than 20 years ago.
Yet 20 years ago, in the summer, you could hardly drive 500 km without having the front of you car or your windscreen full of crushed insects.

These last 5 years, I've hardly seen any significant amount of crushed insect on my car.
And many of my friends have reported the same.
This seems to be in line with the a/m Francis Mangles, retired scientist, stating the aluminum in the soil continues to increase dramatically, causing an extreme reduction in insects.

This is an intriguing observation that I have also noticed. As you stated, it is not a subtle change but a very stark change over the years.

[Buzzie]

Google US Patent 5003186A. You should be also able to find citations to other patents for equipment, methods of spraying, etc.

I first heard about chemtrails 20 years ago on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. For the past few years the skies around Phoenix and Tucson have been filled with chemtrails. When I tell people about the patents and point chemtrails out, I am met with quiet ridicule. I still point them out to some people just to see the look on their face.

I once asked a representative of the National Weather Service if they gave out forecasts for chemtrails. He replied that they did not acknowledge them and walked away after a quick about face. Even now we still seem to have debunkers. What sheeple!

[Chip]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by Chipsam (here)
This has always been hard for me, but to be honest this is hardly definitive evidence.
At one point in my career I was Captain on a Gulfstream 550. This particular aircraft had security cameras that we could activate in flight. One of which was rear mounted and allowed me to view our contrails.
I used this many times to observe contrail formations with the specific intent not to debunk the chemtrail conspirators but to settle my own curiosities in regards to this phenomena.
What I observed was formation of contrails of various sizes that related to specific temps and densities of atmosphere that we were in at the time. Often it looked as though we were hitting a button and turning these off or on, but it was just the conditions of the atmosphere that we were in at the time.
Sometimes our contrails were thick and wider than the span of the wings, which from the ground would look like we were dispensing along the wing much like a agriculture crop duster would be doing.
I have spent 20 years flying corporate aircraft all over the world and I have never seen any aircraft chemspraying nor have I seen an aircraft equipped for this.
Many times I have spoken to friends that have looked up and commented on aircraft with normal contrails that they asserted were chemspraying. At some points I have been accused of being "in" on this, or even a govt shill on other forums.
I am not debunking, just stating what I know and have observed myself as a conscientious observer.
Thanks

Here's my testimony, Chipsam.

I live on the Jersey Cape very close to an Omni Beacon that aligns the final approach to most of the major airports in the Northeast Corridor. Out here on the Cape, our skies are "dosed" almost every day. I watch the commercial airliners leaving fifteen to thirty second water vapor contrails in exactly the same atmosphere where unmarked (military?) aircraft will leave cris-crossed patterns that morph into a blanket haze.

Several years ago I worked on a construction project at one of the local airports, here on the Cape. I got to interface with a number of pilots. This was when the Cemtrail Issue was first exploding. To a man, each pilot I debated regarding Chemtrails v. Contrails had exactly the same argument as yourself. Who is correct? All I can reiterate is, do the research such as that offered in comment #3.

As a postscript to my personal situation, allow me to add:

In the spring of this year, I began getting strange sores on my legs. Never before have I had such ugly, strange lesions. A filament would be observed growing out of these sores, sometimes more than one filament. Whenever I have gotten one of these, I cut it out with my knife. It bleeds for a while, but heals-over.

If you go to this link, and scroll-down to the section on Morgellons, you will see just what I'm talking about.

I'm convinced this newly developing malady is a direct result of living under the umbrella of chemtrails caused by the North-South air traffic of the Northeast Corridor, out here on the Cape.

We all have the free will to deny what we will. Turning a blind eye to a most obvious eugenics agenda will not make it go away.

This Chemtrail Agenda is directly connected to the H.A.A.R.P. Project, and is directly related to weather warfare. It has a second purpose of depopulating the Masses.

Just my two cents....

First, I have read and been following chem trail research.

Secondly, you stated you watched aircraft arrive and depart with only small contrails that disperse rapidly, yet military aircraft above are leaving longer lasting ones. The error is in the assumption that they are in the same atmospheric condition.
Of course the higher aircraft are going to have longer lasting contrails than those that are lower.
Our Atmosphere is not static, there is a constant adiabatic lapse rate along with inversion layers that come and go.
My point is you may see an aircraft putting out contrails in one direction and in another direction comes one with not. This has to do with the different altitudes that they are at. Which is hard to tell from the ground up. And yes the atmosphere, specifically in the Troposphere is that dynamic. A couple thousand feet difference could be all it takes conditionally for one aircraft to produce contrails and not the other.
I'm sorry to hear about your illness.
Best

[observer]

~~~r i i i g h h h t~~~

[GlassSteagallfan]

Posted by Helvetic (here)
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I hope this brings closure to the subject. Ariel spraying is a real as the computer you are using right now.

[heyokah]

Oh my. Are we going to have a "Fred259 thread" again?

" there are no chem trails, nasa says so, look they are con trails (lol)"
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...n-trails--lol-

And how about this one?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Age-Myth/page7

[Chip]

Look
Are they chem spraying?
Absolutely!
However, everywhere i go now anytime someone looks up and sees a normal contrail I hear chemtrail. From every airplane that leaves one.
My only argument is to say at the very least know a little bit about how they are formed. So that when you really do some intimate research on the subject you will have some knowledge of the posing arguments.
My observations were shared to help not to hinder.
Thanks

[observer]

Just a little photographic evidence:













Here's a good look at how they 'played' Hurricane Sandy:

http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/...e-2430306.html

This is the video from the above link, just in case you missed it:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=W6XGUtvUmFo