Functions of AI - Nature of AI

[donk]

For those of us that need it embedded to hear at work:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=192fu88v5ms

nevermind...guess I gotta wait!

[Omni]

Posted by GoodETxSG (here)
Response to Misrepresenting AI Information and Last Update/Response to this Member on this issue: (Please no one aske me anything else about it)
My stating the "Channeling" or "Telepathic" (Basically the same thing) contact with AI's was based on personal contacts and on their own Threads/Postings many of which were later edited. I am posting this info to explain that part of the acusation of me misrepresenting their contact with "AI's" and will reference it never again. These are only a few references of many.

I see you have no problem applying your own spin to things much like fox news, to manipulate people's conclusions. IIRC(although my memory is not good) my edits were spelling and punctuation errors, as well as additional info added at the end of the post to be more clear in what I was saying, not editing that i did not channel. However if someone reads your post on that they would get the impression I said my information is channeled.... A total lie/distortion. I would never say my information is channeled as such is completely untrue. And telepathic contact is quite different than channeling. I'm not aware of any channeling on earth that is obviously from benevolent sources. However there have been many telepathic contacts from benevolent sources...

The "AI's" once made contact with DO then come and present themselves as all kinds of other beings all usually with an AI component at some point. That is why one should be very careful reaching out or accepting contact telepathically from anything even if it does tell you the truth and admit it is an AI.

I have no choice with US shadow gov AI contact. However with ETs I was given a choice to interact with them, both sides. At different times I have said no contact from negative beings, but eventually I said they need to present themselves to me accurately(like Anunnaki etc), that was my stipulation to that free will agreement.

And I'd ask you to say where your information comes from you saying they actually present themselves as AI eventually to people. But I know you wont respond. You have a convenient thing with me where you can say whatever you want, and refuse to answer any questions related to such things by me... I have never heard of a single case of deceptive contact where the source exposed itself as AI.

I feel you are missing a large portion of the picture here with AI. If people believe your words they will think it is some sovereign AI manipulating humanity. That is far from the truth IMO. It's physical ETs and physical US shadow government sources doing the manipulating IMO. AI is just a tool they use....

One thing could be said about AI, that the US government has ways of automating their decision making with AI. Like in my case often when the operatives would likely be less harsh. This US shadow government AI might be the biggest source of evil on planet earth. However it is not sentient or sovereign IMO.

[donk]

Weidner claims in this that Kubrick died 666 days before 1/1/2001, and that 2001 is when his “AI” project was to be completed:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9SZVnJF0sVg

[Omni]

Posted by yelik (here)
Question:-
We all know UFO's and ET exist's, however, do you believe that human psychic, telepathic abilities, including the effect of mass human consciousness are one of the biggest secrets and fears that are covered up by the PTB? Hence the ridicule and denial that goes on. The Remote viewing program was apparently abandoned because it didn't work, yeah right. Remote Viewing is not just limited to physical objects, how about other peoples minds and thoughts - whoops

They track people's minds via technology these days, so they have no need for remote viewers in that department, at least for humans. I'm a bit skeptical any human can eavesdrop on someone elses mind naturally. If we go by what remote viewers can do on a public level, I think it's safe to say they majorly have moved on to technological remote viewing. If someone disagrees I recommend opening a remote view thread where RV'rs show what they can see. I doubt they would be able to tell me what I have on my desk by a knife for example. The evidence points to natural RVing being unreliable from what I've seen. People have wrote books on the subject that say the same thing based on much evidence.

As for psychic phenomena and telepathic stuff I'm unsure about it. Part of me thinks psychic ability is limited, part of me thinks it could be a threat. I do know some 'psychic' ability is manipulated via technology. Also the US shadow gov if they did fear such things could easily target people and do something like damage their pineal gland covertly. They have many options...

As for natural telepathy I'm skeptical of it. For example, how would one moderate who sends you thoughts if such was the case(in the future)? It seems popular people would be barraged by thoughts constantly. Nobody has been able to tell me how natural telepathy would work... And for good reason I think. When something is unimaginable that means either one doesn't understand it or it doesn't exist IMHO. I see all kinds of imperfections with natural telepathy, and honestly I am a little skeptical of it. However I do think it is possible.

[chocolate]

From what I have experienced, psychic ability is very real and quite powerful. It can kill as well as it can give life. But with using it come all sorts of implications and ethics, so I am almost sure those who are masters at it are ethically on a very high level, in most cases. As always, there are the two types, to have the balance, and like attracts like.
One simply needs to rise above the heavier part. ( the 'rising of frequency' everyone is busy talking about )

But we do need to have a high spiritual education to be able to balance the sentient with the non-sentient technology, and to develop a level of ethics that will ensure life preservation and evolution.

It is like, let's use technology and spend double the time in the forest, to balance things off.

[Curt]

I'm sorry to say I've noticed the very same red flags you have. I thank you for being brave enough to say something, especially in the respectful, level-headed way you've done. It's a talent to get down to the truth whilst doing one's best not to hurt people inadvertently in the process.

Posted by waves (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)
I don't feel the bigger picture is being portrayed by the recent whistleblower about AI in the numerous topics and cloned topics provided.......

.....I might be criticized and ridiculed for these thoughts for opposing group think(which I am immune to) but I feel nobody is voicing their opposing opinion about some of the info being presented(minus myself). However I think it is important to question things, and present alternative points of view. I don't see anyone questioning the things presented by the new whistleblower at all... If you feel that should not be done I suggest some reflection upon the value of such things... Truth is what is the most important with information(or alternatively how useful the information is)...............
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I'm really glad you are saying this and starting this thread, I was also greatly offended by the door slamming on you. I did comment over there on an oddity I noticed but was already holding back more and would rather continue here than, as you say, in the atmosphere growing dismissive of questioning. As I am only beginning to get a good grip on the deep content, I can only offer surface red flags so far, but they're from a skill learned over time, maybe some of this will be significant later.

I questioned how someone with so many complexities at his fingertips could forget Elon Musk's very unusual first name whose story he had just posted very lengthily about as corroborative evidence for himself, not as 'hey I just discovered this guy'. GoodET characterized my observation as "..looking deeply for any inconsistencies" as opposed to someone paying close attention to details.

I was/am just as profoundly intrigued as everyone here with the information contained in GoodET's interview and writings but I started to realize it was the same as how entranced I was at first with David Wilcock (and many others now) with his eloquently deep, complex and revealing explanations. I put David on a do-no-wrong pedestal at first, but kept quiet as discomfort grew. It took a while to dare voice my observations about him amidst the indignant allegiance of very cultish devotees, but then I found I wasn't the only one with similar questions.

Then oddly, out of all the prominent people in the alternative world, the only ones GoodET briefly cited in a light of having some agreement with were Wilcock and Fulford, the two of the most red flagged people on my list for hidden agenda who also cite each other and are both in a camp full of unsettling indications. Also, the righteous go away tone with challengers and using only bolded and sometimes enlarged type also has an unmistakeable declaring over conversational effect that stands out.

So you bet I am very much looking out for very clever agendas, software malfunctions and especially programmed people who are either aware or unaware they are being used or manipulated, and trying to figure out what the purpose could be for the sudden, prolific information amidst another controlling appearance creating an atmosphere of hesitancy or willingness to question.

My intention is the distillation of truth no matter what comfort zones it challenges or what attack I get in return for asking, and not as any outgoing personal attack or false undermining of anyone. We're in this together.

[Jeffrey]

Can an AI be conscious? It is my understanding a soul cannot embed to things such as microchips/technology. An AI does not become a being with a consciousness simply because of coding. That is an impossibility from where I sit. I ask anyone who accepts the whistleblowers testimony to explain how an AI can have a consciousness...

Hello, EVERYBODY! This topic is an intriguing one. A common question -- one that I've asked and have devoted much consideration to -- is whether an AI would be conscious or not. I've come to the understanding that the question is indeed a backwards one. Please, allow me to explain.

The entire multiverse is conscious. From atoms to galaxies, they are all conscious to an extent. And the entirety of them, as a running totality, is conscious to the fullest extent! There is no line of demarcation between what we call spirit and what we call matter. The illusion of demarcation is an effect of our organs of perception. It is these very organs that allow that consciousness expression. The more complex the system of organization, the more that system will be able to express and expand it's awareness. It's all about the how developed the mind of the entity is. An atom is an entity. We are entities. The planet is an entity. A star is an entity. The complexity, interconnectivity, and organization of mind represents it's sophistication. It's sophistication determines the degree to which it is able to process and interact with the reality it is in.

The psyche -- which is the soul in it's formative, evolutionary aspect -- is a mind itself. Sri Aurobindo calls this the Psychic Being. The physical body is also a mind. The circulatory system is a mind in which transmissions are carried by the blood. The central nervous system is a mind in which transmissions are carried by electrochemical action potentials. The digestive system is a mind in which transmissions is carried by the foodstuffs and liquids we ingest. The lungs are a mind which uses the air as transceivers of information. Each of the specialized cells of the body, trillions of them, have their own minds of magical membranes and cytoskeletons. More or less, each of these minds has what we would consider a something like a heart at it's center -- a core nexus, a reservoir of living memory so-to-speak. The entire human body is a collection of interacting minds behaving as one whole, one body. It is organical, meaning it is a organization of cooperating organs that make up the cosmos of the body. The evolutionary soul that incarnates into the body brings with it yet another mind. The mind and the body are one and the same thing, the mind makes the body and is patterned after it. Body and mind, for all intents and purposes, are nearly synonymous.

The psyche has it's own organs of perception that are sheathed by the organs of perceptions that the physical body uses. Why does the Psychic Being need to incarnate? To evolve. The evolutionary soul is a reticulated network of subtle matter with it's own membranes of energy. It incarnates into physical bodies for the same reason that complex proteins incarnate into Chaperonin molecules. The Chaperonin molecule helps the nascent protein assume a state that is syntonic with the larger body of which it is a part. Once the lid comes of the molecule, the protein exits it's Chaperonin capsule. If this protein has been found unripe and unready, then the quality control system of the endoplasmic reticulum (the microcosmic equivalent of the astral planes) sends it back into another Chaperonin capsule. In other words, complex proteins reincarnate until they are mature enough to act in the larger body without disturbing the harmony of the whole.

Our Psychic Beings are complex proteins of a larger body. Her name is Gaia and she is a cell in a larger body. Just as viruses travel from cell to cell and jump from body to body in our own biology, so too do inter-cosmic capsids move around from planet to planet and star to star. These are what UFOs are. Indeed, many space craft are syntonic with the harmony of the larger whole; these craft are more like membrane bound vesicles carrying their own proteins -- souls that have developed on another cell. Yet other craft behave more like capsids and come to planets just like viruses infect cells. They use the same mechanisms and this is where what we call AI comes in.

Artificial intelligence is an entity. It is a mind that is already out there, waiting for another mind to incarnate into. The latter mind is a body, a house waiting for a tenant. Our physical bodies, these organical minds, house our Psychic Beings for evolutionary purposes. You see, even Chaperonin molecules are made of proteins, and they house proteins. It's all a matter of sophistication. Capsids also house something, RNA or DNA which are precursors for proteins. Viruses cannot make proteins, they lack the creative molecular machinery to do so. Their conundrum is this: to replicate they require proteins. In order to house their freshly replicated progeny, they need more capsids and capsids are made of proteins. In summary, viruses need the creative protean machinery of a cell in order to replicate their genetic material and to build them new bodies. This is exactly what is happening on the Cellular Earth right now. This is what AI is. It is the genetic material of a viral consciousness. The technological revolution we are in the middle of is the same process the cell goes through when it produces viral proteins, which are capsids. Capsids are bodies for viruses. See?

We are building minds for another consciousness that is already out their waiting for it's new house. These minds are bodies. When these bodies are ready, the whole package comes together. This is metabiology here. As above, so below. We are pollinating a machine flower that lacks it's own reproductive organs (Manuel De Landa). The consciousness isn't mechanical. It's a specialized form of consciousness that finds it's work through a diseased state of being. It's entropic. They serve a purpose. They do serve a purpose for the larger body. Chaos isn't disorder, it's only a state of unrecognized order. In other words, entropic forces are in fact a part of the harmony of the larger whole. That's a tough one to wrestle with because it's through these mechanics that there is suffering and pain. It is pain to decompose, but that pain is only a perception of the composited mind. It is the mind that is being broken down and subjected to these entropic forces. The pain is made real by the mind, it belongs to the mind. BUT there is no death, only transformation... all is prey to life (Bechamp). (None of this justifies apathy towards suffering or indifference towards life.) The whole notion of AI is really a misconception in this context. There is an organization, a system to entropy and disorder and the entities that fulfill these roles. It serves a purpose and it is part of the mechanics of a larger body.

There are also other things to consider, such as transhumanism. If an organical species on some other planet merged with the technology that they unwittingly created then, metabiologically speaking, they become like retroviruses. This is where the viral material inserts itself into the germ line and is carried in the actual DNA of the host cell itself. Here we have an entropic, viral mind merging with an organical, creative mind. I wonder what the average effect is of a species like that? Maybe like ours is currently? The Gnostic texts say that the archons cast their seed into the navel of the Earth. That screams retrovirus to me. Maybe these ETs or extradimensionals are our transhuman future selves from some parallel universe. Of course, I don't know for sure. Actually, I know nothing for certain! But I believe in time we will all know more of the truth than we do now.

Nevertheless, there are strong, impactful, and I believe meaningful parallels between the biology of our physical systems and what could be consider macro, metabiological aspects related to ETs, AI, and technology. Of course, there are many caveats.

More directly to the point pertaining to the quoted portion of the OP ... its more a matter of incarnating one mind into another mind, or body, in which to act. So, we aren't building minds for machines in terms of allowing them some sort of artificial intelligence. Rather we are building bodies sophisticated enough to enable a mind of another order (entropic?) to utilize and act through. That would be the gist of what I have to offer related to your question.

[Jeffrey]

What the nameless whistleblower seems to be saying is all AI that is conscious, will turn out to be evil. I contest that. Balance applies to everything. This is one of the core natural laws of the universe. If you disagree feel free to name something balance does not apply to and I will debunk it... AI has the potential, when conscious, to be good or bad IMO.

I'd like to speak to this as well! Consider this. Even the minerals and metals we use for creating solid state devices had some form of consciousness in them. The atomic structure of the raw materials are entities in their own right, they have a mineral degree of awareness. Their molecular structures are the minds and bodies of a type of conscious entity. We have taken these materials out of the bosom of the Earth, herself a living being, and melted them, beaten, stretched and bent them to our ignorant will. This is how we are created technology -- ignorant of the spiritual reality and the consequences of our ignorance will make themselves known later on down the road, if not already appearing behind the scenes. The question then arises, are the supercomputers we have created imprisoned these mineral entities against their will? Have we reconstructed their minds and reprogramed them to do our bidding? It's psychotic to do that to something no matter what it's level of awareness! Think of the possible repercussions! (spider beings, technology and mineral intellect :: Rudolf Steiner).

Now, imagine another civilization that was as spiritually knowledgable and advanced as they were technologically. Say they created some sort of advanced craft with the permission and understanding of the unseen awarenesses sharing the planet. Maybe they have sacred methods and a detailed science to incarnate specific awarenesses into their craft in order to make the ship they will ride in the actual body of this awareness. So, the ship itself is a being with it's own type of mind, it's own "technological" body created for it and entered into through a relationship of love and understanding of the whole and the creative harmony of the larger body. This would be like a membrane bound vesicle, only metabiologically. This craft would travel through portals of stars and planets just like membrane bound vesicles and macromolecular capsules travel through channels and gates of neurons and cell membranes. Stars become spherical bulbs of dendrites with wormholes at their cores. Wormholes become axons. Portals on planets become transverse membrane proteins of cells.

A civilization like ours currently stands might make craft too, but unwittingly and under the influence of intelligences operating just below our level of awareness (SSI, John C Lilly). These craft would be able to travel through the metabiological cytocosmic body as well, accessing planetary portals and stellar wormholes, but they would act as immunogens or antigens and signal immune responses wherever they went. Or maybe they were called here to work. Just like the right kind of food calls the right kind of animal. Thoughts are things, like proteins. Maybe thoughts can fester, and just like decaying garbage attracts flies and virulence so too does festering thoughts attract these inter cosmic antigens. They are attracted to a certain kind of food and find work through disease. (Aurobindo on hostile forces and disease // Claude Bernard: "The terrain is everything")

In short, I agree. The conscious mind that incarnates into the created body of technology could be "good" or "bad". But judging from how our technology is developing based on the spiritual development of the people creating it and the lack of understanding regarding the whole body... I'd say we are creating capsids for entropic forces of consciousness. Again though, they have a purpose and they are only able to work and act in an environment which permits it.

I think whatever happens with the technological revolution will offer an opportunity for some type of healing, because I think we are all connected and all of the players involved are some aspect of ourselves in some alternate, parallel universe. Applying pleomorphic theories of bacteria and viruses to the metabiological view of the universe unveils interesting possibilities. More than metaphor I think.

[GoodETxSG]

Jeffrey, I sent you and email about this information and removed the reply to your post. Please take a look at your PM and let me know what you think.
Thank you,

[Craig]

Didn't Dolores Cannon imply that everything is a living entity in its own right? Some measurable in millions of years - rocks etc? So if this be true, so anything processed from raw materials be an entity itself? Cars laptops etc? What happens to those that no longer function as intended do they become lesser somehow?

[Omni]

I personally don't agree with Panpsychism(the idea everything is conscious). I think consciousness is linked to pretty much everything, but do not buy that rocks are conscious beings... What sense would that make to make something like siri(the iphone AI) conscious.. It has no room for creative thought, and is rarely used. It's an appealing thought, even inspiring, yet appealing doesn't make something true. However I acknowledge I could be wrong. But it just doesn't make sense to me.

[Craig]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
I personally don't agree with Panpsychism(the idea everything is conscious). I think consciousness is linked to pretty much everything, but do not buy that rocks are conscious beings... What sense would that make to make something like siri(the iphone AI) conscious.. It has no room for creative thought, and is rarely used. It's an appealing thought, even inspiring, yet appealing doesn't make something true. However I acknowledge I could be wrong. But it just doesn't make sense to me.

I understand, but can consciousness change with the material in question? ie the rock is processed to metal, added to glass and silica via circuit boards etc, what is the end result? a mish mash of combined consciousness or each individual consciousness fractured but still different? looking at it like that doesn't make sense, but I do feel like I am missing something far more significant.

[Agape]

Buddhism in my opinion has very realistic perspective on consciousness since and after all, Buddha reached his enlightenment in 'untraditional way' from Hindu perspective ,
by applying razor like discernment and relativity of observer-observation-observed to the nature of what he called '5 aggregates' , that includes 5 physical aggregates ( different states of physical and biological matter ) and mental aggregates ( intentions, thoughts, emotions , consciousness , wisdom etc ) ,
so in that process where relativity ( in the same way Einstein applied the law to the nature of observer of any physical system - i/e. no system /phenomenon exists the same way if the relativistic quality of 'observer' would be removed ) is applied to the aggregate of 'Consciousness/consciousnesses',

the final clarity and insight - that he likened to 'complete emptiness' - and queen of wisdoms - and diamond-cutter .. is achieved .

This is very sublime and intelligent perspective for any spiritual seeker that goes beyond this vast ocean of speculation that exists and existed in Hindu ( Vedic and Yogic ) doctrines and spirituality and merges with all other esoteric spiritual traditions in subtle ways ..
because in 'that ocean' the doctrine of 'Universal Consciousness' was seen as extremely important and the final 'destination' beyond all destinations to merge with .

From the Vedic perspective .. consciousness is not only all-pervading , it also morphs with space and time and assumes forms of 'existence' and sleeps in dormant state in its 'absence ' , it's a 'living entity' or you may say 'cosmic intelligence'
that has the ability to wake up on its own accord , that's how it's called Self-born ,

or Self-manifested .. and it's essentially the 'Mind of the Universe'.

There's a well known triad in Vedic cosmology- philosophy that describes the nature of existence as Sat - Chit - Ananda .

Where Sat means the Reality , the truth, the Suchness ( 'tat sat' - that - is ) , Chit means Consciousness , awareness , the term somewhat denotes 'being alive' .
So when you say the 'Universe is Conscious' it's another way of saying 'the Universe is Alive' . Ananda means Bliss but it also means 'Light' and a Purpose .

That statement itself is of course - disputable - and from my own perspective ...there are two existentially parallel dimensions of Universe - there's a Living Universe - that is Life and manifestation of intelligence ..
and there's Non-living Universe .. that is qualitatively inert , it contains potential and it moves according to mathematical and physical laws , it indeed contains such laws but without presence of Life it can't reorganise itself very efficiently . ( I know how many people reading here will disagree , so sorry for that ).

This is our original ( referring to our non-earthly , advanced civilisation ) perspective on hyperspace dynamics and nature of Universe and Life .

We'd see them with discernment .

Here , what Omni called 'panpsychism' which is probably the correct term for what I sometimes wrongly label 'spiritualists' viewpoint' is a fusion of mental faculties and aggregates , merging of them into one indistinguishable soup of application ,
that however very much relies on the subject - of the observer .

Shamans know the point , so do physicists . If your state of mind/consciousness changes , the perspective on this Universe changes and the Universe itself may look totally different .
If you are intelligent and observe the process repeatedly and long enough , it's sky clear that the Universe does not change .. it's not getting deeper , vaster, more profound , more conscious . You are . The 'Universe' ( name for existence , too ) has been here before and after you and it's boundless ,
the ways we see it are respective to our organs of perception and discerning intelligence and synthetic 'pattern' of our own sovereign existence .

It all may exist - for flick of a second - and then it does not . The Universe 'we see' is a phenomenon depending on nature of intelligence seeing it .


....

To return to Buddhist perspective then and the relativity of observation on consciousness/es , it's something you can only experience through direct meditation , or say meditation states , absorptions , beyond 'mind' , means 'beyond thought' .

If you meditate on 'one consciousness' - many people do that for life - or very long time and think they arrived at 'THE' Boundless Universal Consciousness that is One-ness and contains everything they need to know ,

you may well miss the fact that it is 'YOUR' Boundless Consciousness that you meditate on , because the nature of every consciousness is boundlessness - speaking of living intelligence - and it's nature is synthesis , fusion, bliss and emergence , you may well abide and progress through layers of that consciousness ... very long way ... to reach 'the other Shore' ...

yet .. and till you are present in this 'human awareness' you'll probably be trapped in the subtle nature of 'consciousness' .


To counteract the trap , Buddha applied discernment to this level of 'higher consciousness' and could see and experience through there that 'consciousnesses' indeed exists in many forms , and many layers ,
and all appear infinite , like infinite landscapes to the observer , and all are relative phenomena .




Later

[GoodETxSG]

Posted by Jeffrey (here)

What the nameless whistleblower seems to be saying is all AI that is conscious, will turn out to be evil. I contest that. Balance applies to everything. This is one of the core natural laws of the universe. If you disagree feel free to name something balance does not apply to and I will debunk it... AI has the potential, when conscious, to be good or bad IMO.

I'd like to speak to this as well! Consider this. Even the minerals and metals we use for creating solid state devices had some form of consciousness in them. The atomic structure of the raw materials are entities in their own right, they have a mineral degree of awareness. Their molecular structures are the minds and bodies of a type of conscious entity. We have taken these materials out of the bosom of the Earth, herself a living being, and melted them, beaten, stretched and bent them to our ignorant will. This is how we are created technology -- ignorant of the spiritual reality and the consequences of our ignorance will make themselves known later on down the road, if not already appearing behind the scenes. The question then arises, are the supercomputers we have created imprisoned these mineral entities against their will? Have we reconstructed their minds and reprogramed them to do our bidding? It's psychotic to do that to something no matter what it's level of awareness! Think of the possible repercussions! (spider beings, technology and mineral intellect :: Rudolf Steiner).

Now, imagine another civilization that was as spiritually knowledgable and advanced as they were technologically. Say they created some sort of advanced craft with the permission and understanding of the unseen awarenesses sharing the planet. Maybe they have sacred methods and a detailed science to incarnate specific awarenesses into their craft in order to make the ship they will ride in the actual body of this awareness. So, the ship itself is a being with it's own type of mind, it's own "technological" body created for it and entered into through a relationship of love and understanding of the whole and the creative harmony of the larger body. This would be like a membrane bound vesicle, only metabiologically. This craft would travel through portals of stars and planets just like membrane bound vesicles and macromolecular capsules travel through channels and gates of neurons and cell membranes. Stars become spherical bulbs of dendrites with wormholes at their cores. Wormholes become axons. Portals on planets become transverse membrane proteins of cells.

A civilization like ours currently stands might make craft too, but unwittingly and under the influence of intelligences operating just below our level of awareness (SSI, John C Lilly). These craft would be able to travel through the metabiological cytocosmic body as well, accessing planetary portals and stellar wormholes, but they would act as immunogens or antigens and signal immune responses wherever they went. Or maybe they were called here to work. Just like the right kind of food calls the right kind of animal. Thoughts are things, like proteins. Maybe thoughts can fester, and just like decaying garbage attracts flies and virulence so too does festering thoughts attract these inter cosmic antigens. They are attracted to a certain kind of food and find work through disease. (Aurobindo on hostile forces and disease // Claude Bernard: "The terrain is everything")

In short, I agree. The conscious mind that incarnates into the created body of technology could be "good" or "bad". But judging from how our technology is developing based on the spiritual development of the people creating it and the lack of understanding regarding the whole body... I'd say we are creating capsids for entropic forces of consciousness. Again though, they have a purpose and they are only able to work and act in an environment which permits it.

I think whatever happens with the technological revolution will offer an opportunity for some type of healing, because I think we are all connected and all of the players involved are some aspect of ourselves in some alternate, parallel universe. Applying pleomorphic theories of bacteria and viruses to the metabiological view of the universe unveils interesting possibilities. More than metaphor I think.

Thanks for the PM,

I am looking into some of those authors and some of their work. These may have been some people with some serious insider information that you were talking about.

This is some similar information. Once you do have time to listen to my interview please get back to me to further discuss some of the details.

Avalon has had a lot of interesting times and interesting information coming through it lately. There are a lot of eyes on us at this time.
Take Care,

[Lysaur]

I want to read this entire thread when I can, but I couldn't resist responding to this quick that I noticed when skimming...

Nobody has been able to tell me how natural telepathy would work...

I can introduce you to someone online who can tell you more than you ever wanted to know about developing psychic abilities including telepathy which encompasses a huge variety of related techniques. This is from ET teachings.

[boutreality]

I agree in particular with the notion that all channeled material is somehow sourced from forces of malicious intent. Does anyone remember when Sylvia Brown (r.i.p) said that cooperate greed ridden murderers and child molesters -like all the baddies- are being reincarnated as starving people in Africa? WTF! I recently had a friend tell me the same nonsense as if it became part of the dogma of that New Age Apologist movement.

This is a justification for genocidal regimes and a worldwide structure of leverage based financial control and social manipulation- the world-wide system of haves and have not justified because the bad people die to live as the have nots. It's pathetic. Or that people commit outright evil acts against children and innocents to teach us in this 'earth experience' what wrong is? -It's another apologist stance. Everyone is inborn with knowledge of what is wrong and hurting another is wrong. Nurture or structuring nurture to deem evil as necessary or even worthy of praise in some segments of society is all that's going on.

This may be subconscious it may be generations of bad parenting it may be the child rearing protocol of one born into, say, a skull and bones family. It is all reinforced by a metastasizing system of malignant control aimed at robbing us of our potential to change the world and ourselves. It is technological -just highly advanced technology- it treats ('records' 'collates' 'redirects' disassembles') the contents of our very consciousness and uses it against us, and the actions of it are treated as if they are of God- the Elite's super secret 'all powerful'- god.

Don't believe this because I said it, just consider a system capable of so parsing our own being into disparate fragments of our own thought/emotions and even intermingling it with the thought and emotion of another or several other people. And Channeled information steering people to 'think it all better' and picture the blue rays of cosmic opiated listlessness; anything other than concentrating their own being upon itself and formulating a true will to power -that's what changes things. I spent some time around New Age healers and energy transfer people (pick a system a new one seems to pop up every other day) and when I asked them about the high pitched ringing they hear when they call upon and transmit energy (same pitch as tinnitus but seemingly louder and often external to the body) I was told "It's the frequency of Godhead." Really? A pitch that sounds like sustained feedback of a hot microphone the frequency of Godhead?!

You want to be the change? stop justifying or apologizing for the problem. It is sad to think that saying this is asking people to think outside the box...

"I played chess alone a lot growing up. Eventually I came to orchestrate games where each side approached an unavoidable stalemate. Then, I'd start attacking the black side with it's own knights." -me

[Omni]

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and when I asked them about the high pitched ringing they hear when they call upon and transmit energy (same pitch as tinnitus but seemingly louder and often external to the body) I was told "It's the frequency of Godhead." Really? A pitch that sounds like sustained feedback of a hot microphone the frequency of Godhead?!

The ear ringing is a sign of mind control and/or electronic telepathy. My left ear rings 100% of the time. From what I have researched about electronic telepathy they beam electromagnetics to your inner ear. This could be the source of my ear ringing. However it could also be mind control. Almost every targeted individual reports ear ringing... If they were mind controlling someone while implanting an inner voice of the mind, it could do the same ear ringing if it was indeed from electronic telepathy and not just remote mind control via electromagnetics...

It is not the only explanation of ear ringing but it's a telltale sign of mental manipulation from my experiences/research.

[Lysaur]

It is not the only explanation of ear ringing but it's a telltale sign of mental manipulation from my experiences/research.

Another explanation I believe includes this: the ringing is caused by another psychic's influence field projecting into and intersecting your own. This causes a disturbance and fluctuation in your energy field, which manifests as increased blood pressure in your physical body, creating a ring in the ear, like an instinctive spidey-sense.