US Navy just tested in the Persian gulf - ship mounted laser weapon

[Bob]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sbjXXRfwrHg

The U.S. Navy tests an experimental laser weapon aboard a deployed ship for the first time. The weapon, which utilizes a solid state infrared beam of energy to cripple or destroy targets, was tested in the Persian Gulf.

(Baltimore Sun reporting and numerous internet sources for Military News)

(Look out Iran - the US Navy can now beam you with some really hot stuff at quite a distance away.. without ever firing a shot.. Think about what toasted marshmellows, really toasted ones..are like after having being irradiated by the infra-red heat ray.. not a kind honorable weapon like Kilij. They could have tested anywhere, they chose the Persian Gulf..)

[Linda Brown]

Precisely the message given too. The ships name was the Ponce , I believe, which has a certain significance also.....

Linda

[Olam]

Don't forget that this is released public info from the military which tells me that its not something very special or important to them.
The real hot stuff will always be secret until it becomes a toy and then they talk about it.

[Bob]

Posted by Linda Brown (here)
Precisely the message given too. The ships name was the Ponce , I believe, which has a certain significance also.....

Linda

I think so too..

more - specifically against "fast moving small boats" typically those who do the harassing, or suicide bombing... little boats better stay away, or they will "see the light" (not from the infrared but when their bodies burn, before their eyes melt and flesh falls off... nasty weapon..)

PENTAGON (Source) —

The U.S. Navy has declared an experimental laser weapon on its Afloat Forward Staging Base (AFSB) in the Persian Gulf an operational asset and U.S. Central Command has given permission for the commander of the ship to defend itself with the weapon, the head of the Office of Naval Research (ONR) told reporters on Wednesday.

The 30 kilowatt Laser Weapon System (LaWS) was installed aboard USS Ponce this summer as part of a $40 million research and development effort from ONR and Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) to test the viability of directed energy weapons in an operational environment, said ONR Rear Adm. Matthew Klunder.

“The captain of that ship has all of the authorities necessary if there was a threat inbound to that ship to protect our sailors and Marines [and] we would defend that ship with that laser system,” Klunder said.

“It would be [used] against those [unmanned aerial vehicles], slow moving helicopters, fast patrol craft.”

[Linda Brown]

On the Ponce

http://cosmic-token.com/forum/viewto...p=30888#p30888

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ponce_%28LPD-15%29

doesn't a single bullet cost more than a dollar? Just askin.

Linda

[Linda Brown]

Oh but Bob.... dumbed down.... isnt it just supposed to tickle and annoy... (or is that simply the sound generated stuff from Alexanders bunch at Los Alamos<g>) The Navy seems to have a deadlier and more serious handle on things, but haven't they always? Linda

[Bob]

It was going to be decommissioned, but it kept being called back into service. Then the Navy thought, heck, lets put a cutting edge laser on it. Now it just won't be sweeping for mines, it can become an attack craft (in theory), or just go taking pot shots at drones, and snoopy helicopters, or heck maybe even Russian jets.. Come close and feel the light.. what a concept..

http://www.ponce.navy.mil/

USS PONCE was originally commissioned on July 10, 1971 and designated as an amphibious transport dock (LPD) ship.

PONCE became a workhorse of the Atlantic Fleet with the Proud Lions completing 27 North Atlantic, Caribbean, Mediterranean, Indian Ocean and Arabian Gulf deployments over the next 42 years. In 2011, PONCE was selected for decommissioning after her final deployment and began deactivation in November 2011.

In January 2012, the Commander, Central Forces Command, requested an Afloat Forward Staging Base to conduct operations from the sea.

United States Fleet Forces Command, under the leadership of Admiral Harvey, with CNO concurrence, took point and coordinated the efforts of industry partners with Military Sealift Command to fill the Combatant Commander’s request.

USS PONCE gained new life from a March 30 planned decommissioning ceremony, and manned with a hybrid crew of Military Sealift Command Mariners and Individual Augmentee Sailors began a 60 day sprint to meet a 01 June 2012 deployment date.

PONCE was reconfigured to support mine countermeasure operations and act as a mission support vessel for FIFTH FLEET operations.


USS PONCE deployed on June 01, 2012 and is currently serving in the Central Command area of responsibility.

[Linda Brown]

By " dumbed down" I meant this... which has been in development for years for " crowd control" All you have to do is turn it up a notch or two and you have what the Navy is demonstrating now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon

[Linda Brown]

"PONCE was reconfigured to support mine countermeasure operations and act as a mission support vessel for FIFTH FLEET operations

If she hadn't already been named.... they would have given her a bird name.....the Navy tradition for "mine sweepers". A different sort of " Aviary".

Linda

[Bob]

Between the helicopter mounted laser systems, shipboard, and land based, one can only look at the satellite based as the stuff not being talked about. The earlier gig was to develop land to sky "atmospheric scintillation" cancelling tools (software and deformable mirrors to compensate)..

When the ground based to airborne were proven out, then anti-scintillation technology allows for SKY (space) to ground with the majority of the beam power FULLY deployable..

The laser-majik comes from solid state amplifiers, fibre amplifiers. I have another thread which gets into the mechanisms of that.

UPDATE:

Link to the post on the Fibre Laser amplifiers:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post861556

and this link:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post872035

describes the fibre amplifier

[Bob]

Posted by Olam (here)
Don't forget that this is released public info from the military which tells me that its not something very special or important to them.
The real hot stuff will always be secret until it becomes a toy and then they talk about it.

See post 10 above, that talks about what IS not talked about - satellite to ground lasers...

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Will it work after an EMP or other attack crippling electronics systems?

They had a state-of-the-art warship lose all power not too long ago, in the Black Sea if I'm not mistaken.

[Bob]

The most robust systems are fibre optic systems, which survive EMP.. No wires but optical fibres.. if they close the metal lid, the electronics would survive..

Its formidable, not a toy really if one is being melted..

Countermeasures, the Iranians, or for that matter the Somalians (the py-rats hijacking ships, tankers) don't stand a chance with this type of system.. they don't have a counter-measure.

It is an active formidable at-a-distance weapon, able to destroy or debilitate at-a-distance.. key words, at-a-distance.

But as i pointed out in post 10, SATELLITE to ground or Satellite to air.. or satellite to ship - that system is the shhhhhhh one.. nasty X 1000

--- and there are the satellite killer weapons - ground based laser systems designed to BLIND spy satellites (which can also blind drones, not just shoot them down).. Laser blinding systems are formidable.. and do affect drone optics.. OR heat seeking missile optics.

-- was HG Wells so far off with War of the Worlds describing the Martian machine's heat rays?
A flexible weapon (i.e. fibre optic reference), which can convey heat beams..

Of course the next step is to put it on Humvee's (oh right that's been done) supposedly for eliminating IED (improvised explosive devices) at a distance. Sweeping such on a crowd is a push of a button.. think about where they are with the laser weapons.. In the posts above, the Mil commander IS authorized to defend.. if attacked.. What constitutes a crowd attacking?

[Linda Brown]

I have asked myself.... how would you TEST the accuracy of such a " satellite to ground" " beam" as perhaps you mentioned here Bob

"But as i pointed out in post 10, SATELLITE to ground or Satellite to air.. or satellite to ship - that system is the shhhhhhh one.. nasty X 1000

And the only thing that has raised a public stir is.... crop circles.

Now.... who has it.... and where is the master for those crop circles that are being copied so carefully.... so far below?
A question worth asking. Linda

[Bob]

Posted by Linda Brown (here)
I have asked myself.... how would you TEST the accuracy of such a " satellite to ground" " beam" as perhaps you mentioned here Bob

"But as i pointed out in post 10, SATELLITE to ground or Satellite to air.. or satellite to ship - that system is the shhhhhhh one.. nasty X 1000

And the only thing that has raised a public stir is.... crop circles.

Now.... who has it.... and where is the master for those crop circles that are being copied so carefully.... so far below?
A question worth asking. Linda

What a deliciously hilarious concept -" some cropcircles could be generated from satellite, scribbling with machine like precision, rapidly produced from space.. perfect test of the anti-scintillation mechanism.. Have you ever looked into how that works Linda, absolutely fascinating.. Same mech was being designed into the aircraft laser weapons system to have precise power to remote targets..

now this would be an amazingly intricate laser-from-space circle...

[Tyy1907]

I was hoping for a Star Wars laser to shoot out.

[Linda Brown]

Slightly off topic ( but maybe actually not) I wanted to thank the poster above, Tyy1907, hello Canada) for quoting this from Winston Churchill. I wanted to repeat it, here and in other places, because I think that it needs to be read. Many times we forget lessons from the past and we should not.

"Still, if you will not fight when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worst case: You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
Winston Churchill


Tyye1907....minus the Hollywood theatrics..... it looks like Star Wars stuff to me!

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
I was hoping for a Star Wars laser to shoot out.

Sorry about that tyy -- light is actually invisible and travels at the speed of, well, light. Matter itself is also invisible, yet when the two mingle, the results can be seen as a spectacular display of hue and intensity depending on how the matter has scattered the photons. In reality no person ever sees matter at all, and no one ever sees light, we only perceive their interaction in a sort of reconstructed "virtual reality" we call "the sense of sight"

So there never will be "star wars lasers" -- I know, boring.

[Bob]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
I was hoping for a Star Wars laser to shoot out.

Sorry about that tyy -- light is actually invisible and travels at the speed of, well, light. Matter itself is also invisible, yet when the two mingle, the results can be seen as a spectacular display of hue and intensity depending on how the matter has scattered the photons. In reality no person ever sees matter at all, and no one ever sees light, we only perceive their interaction in a sort of reconstructed "virtual reality" we call "the sense of sight"

So there never will be "star wars lasers" -- I know, boring.

I suppose if we up the power with free-energy-over-unity plasma inducing fields, and induce a standing wavefront with an ultrasonic containment field, and drive the output with picosecond pulses it can, in theory, be stopped at some 'relatively' short distance (because of the standing wave "mirror effect". But ya without all them beam folding standing waves and the gigawatts in the plasma, a regular laser is gonna go on for a while.. When the air plasma glows it would be visible, and really 'hot'..

I just can't see "Luke" making one of those in an off-world rock hut, unless they have one really amazing parts stores in the garage.. ;p

[Tyy1907]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
I was hoping for a Star Wars laser to shoot out.

Sorry about that tyy -- light is actually invisible and travels at the speed of, well, light. Matter itself is also invisible, yet when the two mingle, the results can be seen as a spectacular display of hue and intensity depending on how the matter has scattered the photons. In reality no person ever sees matter at all, and no one ever sees light, we only perceive their interaction in a sort of reconstructed "virtual reality" we call "the sense of sight"

So there never will be "star wars lasers" -- I know, boring.

Still pretty cool tech though.