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    Default Wade Frazier - Energy and the Human Journey: Where We Have Been; Where We Can Go

    I'm sure many on Avalon are already delving deep into Wade Frazier's recently completed essay, Energy and the Human Journey - Where We Have Been; Where We Can Go but for those who may have missed it, here it is.

    In a nutshell, it is an epic piece of research (593 pages) detailing the journey of life on Earth from it's inception up to modern day and beyond within the context of energy. Wade's astute observations of all past epochal transitions coupled with his unique, personal insight on the subject of sequestered free energy technology come together to form a truly comprehensive picture of "where we have been and where we can go".
    Wade has clearly given much thought to a world of abundance through the implementation of such technology culminating in a truly inspiring read.

    I would encourage everyone to take the time to read and digest it, and then to share their feedback with Wade on his A Healed Planet thread.

    FREE ENERGY NOW!!!
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    Shameless Bump!!!!
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    Default Re: Wade Frazier - Energy and the Human Journey: Where We Have Been; Where We Can Go

    Hi Akasha
    The level of response is alarming but understandable, each and everyone has their own agenda, our dear friend Wade is no stranger to this level of interest in his work but you will have heard him say it's the quality not the quantity of those who read and understand his work.

    I wish him well with recruiting his choir, slowly but surely he will get there, I am sure he appreciates your efforts to promote his work.
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    some real education: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9...events/3375935
    Thanks for that video link, Aurelius. I've just started watching it and realised it's quite long. Could you share a brief summary to give people some context? Many thanks.
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    Hi:

    I want to thank Akasha for starting this thread. I am very willing to read this thread and reply to responses to my essay. I put the beginnings of chapter discussions on my thread a few months back, and have had sock-puppet discussions of the essay for about the past month, to give readers examples of the topics that I hope that we can discuss. There is plenty to discuss.

    Happy reading, and I look forward to hearing from you.

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I'll put up an example here, of what I just put up on my thread, on some of the discussions that I hope to get going at Avalon and elsewhere. I have budgeted the rest of my life's "spare time" to holding those discussions, so I am in no rush. My essay is not for quick-study artists or those seeking Messiahs, but when readers come up for air, I will be here.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    I just finished editing a couple of chapters (tiny tweaks, as usual), and just finished the fire and growing the human brain chapter, and I admit that it is fun for me to read, especially when I have had a break from it. I can think of a bunch of topics of discussion from editing those chapters, and will do one based on Wrangham's cooking hypothesis.

    Q: Wade, you write a great deal about Wrangham's cooking hypothesis, which is considered marginal today. I am surprised to see you promoting something as "fringe" as that. How important can it really be?

    A: Great question. It could be argued that I am being seduced by a clever new hypothesis that has slim evidence for it, and time will tell how Wrangham's hypothesis fares, but I think that it has a great deal going for it and the issues it addresses are very relevant to my essay's themes.

    Whatever the fate of Wrangham's hypothesis will be, the subject matter is extremely important on a number of fronts. I almost use it like I do the controversy over the Cryogenian Ice Ages and the Shuram excursion, as an example of how science works. Like most audacious hypotheses, Wrangham's hypothesis calls for a discovery that nobody has really confirmed yet. The date of the control of fire is critical to aspects of Wrangham's hypothesis. Wrangham has presented a lot of circumstantial evidence for the early control of fire, such as the anatomical changes in Homo erectus (growth of brain, adaptations for sleeping on the ground and walking great distances, and its shrinking digestive system, including the teeth), the split between the honeyguide and its ancestors, but his hypothesis is not going to be widely accepted until there is physical evidence of fire of around two million years ago. Scientists have been using new tools and techniques to roll back the date of controlling fire. I will follow those developments with great interest, and even if Wrangham's hypothesis dies out or becomes cannibalized and pieces become incorporated into new hypotheses, the subject matter is vitally important for understanding human evolution and even aspects of today's societies.

    The control of fire was one of the greatest watershed events in the human journey and made humans radically different from all animals that came before them. The significance of the control of fire cannot be overestimated, and was arguably humanity's first Epochal Event, even more important than fashioning stone tools. It definitely happened long before the appearance of our species, and our species would likely not have appeared without the control of fire.

    Even today, industrial economies are dependent on the control of fire. About all that humans are doing with hydrocarbon energy is burning it for heat or running our machines. It is really only a more sophisticated version of the first campfires.

    Understanding the control of fire and where it fits into the human journey is vitally important to understanding where humanity is today. I will follow that controversy with great interest in coming years.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Quote Posted by Aurelius (here)
    some real education: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9...events/3375935
    Thanks for that video link, Aurelius. I've just started watching it and realised it's quite long. Could you share a brief summary to give people some context? Many thanks.
    Akasha .. these words stood out for me in your initial post: ".. world of abundance through the implementation of such technology..".

    The link I posted, the lessons (workshops) therein, pretty much explain in simple terms how we get to achieve abundance through technology. Abundance in energy, propulsion, agriculture, communications, health, sustenance and a few more (ALL provided by the SAME underlying tech). I will assure you if you spend the time going through the workshops (start with #1), you wont regret it.

    Sometimes I wonder why information like this, due to its significance, why it isn't front page on Avalon.

    When you understand the tech (attempted to be described in the workshops), it needn't have been and needn't continue to be (in no particular order): fire, industrial revolution, Banking, Oil, Extinction, War etc.

    This tech most certainly has everything to do with "Where We Can Go". .. and also how we get there.
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    Quote Posted by Aurelius (here)
    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Quote Posted by Aurelius (here)
    some real education: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9...events/3375935
    Thanks for that video link, Aurelius. I've just started watching it and realised it's quite long. Could you share a brief summary to give people some context? Many thanks.
    Akasha .. these words stood out for me in your initial post: ".. world of abundance through the implementation of such technology..".

    The link I posted, the lessons (workshops) therein, pretty much explain in simple terms how we get to achieve abundance through technology. Abundance in energy, propulsion, agriculture, communications, health, sustenance and a few more (ALL provided by the SAME underlying tech). I will assure you if you spend the time going through the workshops (start with #1), you wont regret it.

    Sometimes I wonder why information like this, due to its significance, why it isn't front page on Avalon.

    When you understand the tech (attempted to be described in the workshops), it needn't have been and needn't continue to be (in no particular order): fire, industrial revolution, Banking, Oil, Extinction, War etc.

    This tech most certainly has everything to do with "Where We Can Go". .. and also how we get there.
    Thanks for the response, Aurelius. I've followed Keshe's work on and off for some time. Wade's perspective is fundamentally different. In a nutshell, the tech is not the issue - it's already been reinvented and sequestered many times. The mindset of the collective which will ultimately successfully manifest it, on the other hand, is.
    Keshe's messiah approach coupled with his strategy of publicly offering the technology to national governments, whilst very noble, unfortunately highlights his naïveté on the subject.

    It might also be worth mentioning that there are 30 Keshe threads on the forum already (just type Keshe into the advanced search and select "search titles only" to list and easily access those threads).

    Given that you have clearly already invested time in the subject, I would recommend that you read the essay and share your findings.

    Many thanks.
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    Thanks for the response, Aurelius. I've followed Keshe's work on and off for some time. Wade's perspective is fundamentally different. In a nutshell, the tech is not the issue - it's already been reinvented and sequestered many times. The mindset of the collective which will ultimately successfully manifest it, on the other hand, is.
    Keshe's messiah approach coupled with his strategy of publicly offering the technology to national governments, whilst very noble, unfortunately highlights his naïveté on the subject.

    It might also be worth mentioning that there are 30 Keshe threads on the forum already (just type Keshe into the advanced search and select "search titles only" to list and easily access those threads).

    Given that you have clearly already invested time in the subject, I would recommend that you read the essay and share your findings.

    Many thanks.
    Akasha .. I think one can safely ignore any Keshe related threads prior to Jan / Feb this year (2014). He wasn't fully disclosing the knowledge for various (understandable) reasons. As for any subsequent threads (post Jan/Feb), I wouldn't take them too seriously either, if the individuals involved in the threads have not been involved in the knowledge 1st hand (ie. experimenting themselves, actually understanding the principles & concepts - understanding the significance, actively involved in the research). It's really all about the knowledge and not the messenger.

    As for his disclosure approach, it's far from naive. He's thought it through quite carefully, he's slowly executing a step by step plan. At a distance it may seem naive, but there is method to his madness. He's now targeting civilians (and on many fronts - English, Spanish, Chinese etc.) He wants EVERYONE to have the knowledge, no more have's and have not's. ie. no nation/s having superiority over another (because some have the tech and others don't). TBH if I were to do it myself, I wouldn't do it much differently - it's just not clear at first glances what he's up to, when you realise his goal and how he's going about achieving it, things start to make a lot of sense.

    I agree with you 100% on this statement, couldn't be more true: "The mindset of the collective which will ultimately successfully manifest it ..." Keshe himself is fully aware of this as well, so much so, there is a boundary he will not cross, it is up to us to take the ball and run with it. .... also worth noting this is the 3rd and last time this knowledge will be attempted to be given to humanity (masses). The clock is ticking and there isn't much time left.

    I must reiterate & standby my original statement: This tech has everything to do with "Where We Can Go". .. and how we get there.

    I'm familiar with most of Wade's work, will go over his latest essay and feedback.
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    Thanks for the response, Aurelius. I'm in no doubt we are on the same page in terms of wanting this tech to manifest before it's too late.

    Respectfully, I do want to try and keep this thread about Wade's essay.

    Given your insight into Mehran's work, why not start another thread to represent his work more accurately/fairly?

    I'll look forward to absorbing your information on that thread.

    All the best.
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