WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

As I think about it, I was helping Lori financially at the same time that I was "helping" Deena, literally within a couple of months of meeting Dennis. For those who may be wondering, yes, I could have turned both relationships into something sexual, and Deena even kind of offered to "work off" the money I was giving her. I was living like a monk in those days, and pretty much lived like a monk until I met my wife, in another one of those larger-than-life situations (I met Brian kind of similarly, and may tell that story one day). If I had taken advantage of the situations like that, I wonder if the voice would have sent me to Dennis, as I would have failed the tests. I had many "temptations" placed in front of me like that before I met Dennis. Some of my earliest tests I failed, and I paid for those failures. Eventually, I learned, and those early failures actually were instrumental in helping me walk the straight-and-narrow with Dennis.

Best,

Wade

[Akasha]

My condolences regarding Lori.

x

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I finished editing that monster chapter on the Domestication Revolution. None of that essay's chapters are light reading, but that one covers a lot of territory. I am going to do this for the rest of the essay, and here is a choir Q&A that I thought of while editing, of the dozens and dozens of topics that come up in that chapter.

Q: Wade, your idea of civilizations running out of energy and collapsing is new to me. How valid to you think it is, and how did you come up with it?

A: Great question, and I'll try to make this short, if I can. The idea is not entirely original with me, although I have never seen anybody else really couch it in those terms. It is kind of interesting in one way, in that it can be too obvious for the specialists in the field. In Energy and the Wealth of Nations, the authors noted that if you told biologists that the game of life is an energy game above all else, they would think for a minute and agree with you, but they just do not think of it that way in their daily work, as they play at a greater level of detail than that. It is not that they get lost on the weeds, but that kind of generalist, overarching framework is not something that they habitually think of, as they are more interested in asking and pursuing specific questions.

I found the debate over collapsed civilizations to be similar. Going back to Gibbon, there has been a great deal of scholarly debate on the fall of Rome, for instance, but it was generally by historians, and historians do not think like scientists. A historian is more interested in what happened than really why, although the why could be considered their goal, so that the lessons of history are learned. However, without a scientific approach, and particularly that generalist approach that those biologists rarely take, historians and other academics really do not understand important underlying dynamics, which usually fall into the province of scientists. If you read Michael Grant's book on the fall of Rome, Grant examines the many "disunities" of various groups vying for power and their share of the pie, but nowhere is the shrinking pie mentioned. It really was not until scientists began tackling the issue that the basis for Rome's economic decline, which is what led to its demise, began to be discerned. In a way, it was similar to the scientific parlor game that was played regarding the demise of the dinosaurs. It was not until serious scientific investigation was applied to the issue of vanished civilizations that the energetic basis of their collapse became clear, and even then, like those biologists, the bickering amongst the specialists kind of overlooked the fact that they were all talking about energy and how those civilizations ran out of it.

I have to credit Peak Oilers with first directing me toward the science of collapsed civilizations when I read of Tainter's work in Heinberg's The Party's Over. Tainter reviewed the numerous reasons presented over the millennia for civilization collapses, and his view was that diminishing returns on "investment in complexity" is what did in civilizations. What that means in English is that civilizations were in a sense the result of human problem solving; if the benefits of cities did not outweigh the disadvantages, they would never have been built. And civilization comes with many problems, and the people have to deal with them to make a civilization work. Each problem needs resources to resolve, and that meant human effort. What the declining returns meant was that after the "low hanging fruit" of a problem had been addressed, incremental improvements were increasingly costly, and eventually the problems became too great to resolve, which led to the civilization's demise. The moment of collapse was when urban professionals left the city to find food.

Tainter briefly touched on it in his work, and others took it much further, in that the "investment" was an investment of energy above all else. As I have stated, energy-driven machines perform 99.9% of all work done in industrial societies. In preindustrial civilizations muscle energy was the prime mover, and in pre-Columbian societies of the Western Hemisphere, there were no draft animals other than the llama, so it was all human muscle power. So, food for humans and draft animals was the critical energy supply. The so-called "tyranny of distance" limited the size of the hinterland, and hence, a city's size. Rome was able to turn the entire Mediterranean Sea into a low-energy transportation lane, which was how it was able to grow so large.

Subsequent work by people such as Charles A.S. Hall (a co-author of Energy and the Wealth of Nations) and Thomas Homer-Dixon got more deeply into the energy issue, and the concept of return on energy investment, or EROI, emerged as a key concept to explain the rise and fall of civilizations. Again, as scientists tackled these issues, a lot became evident that historians, for instance, really had a hard time seeing. And when scientists donned their generalist lenses, then seemingly disparate phenomenon could be seen as simply different manifestations of the same underlying causes, and my generalist nature might have even made an original contribution to the issue, as energy is the key for the health of complex organisms, complex ecosystems, and civilizations. Complexity for organisms, ecosystems, or civilizations means many moving parts and like a machine, it takes energy to run those moving parts. When complex organizations like that get pinched somewhere in the energy chains, the entire structure grinds to a halt.

So, civilizations collapsed for the same reason why complex organisms and ecosystems died and had mass extinctions: they ran out of energy. Running out of energy and leading to collapse is common to all three. Early civilizations collapsed when they ran out of food to power the muscles of those who did the work. As machines do virtually all the work in industrialized civilization, when those machines run out of energy, industrialized civilization will collapse.

What has been a little frustrating, as Tainter assailed Jared Diamond's environmental explanation for societal collapse, it both men's explanations were still all about energy. Diamond's work was about how when the environment could no longer supply the civilization with food, it collapsed, and Tainter said that the collapse of industrial civilization will only be averted if a new energy source is discovered and exploited. So, they are arguing both sides of the same coin: the coin of energy.

The fact is that when civilizations razed the forests and grew crops on the denuded soils (an almost universal practice), and usually turned the forests into fuel for the civilization, they halted the production of ecosystem wealth (stored energy), diverted the sunlight into growing food for humans, and the practice always led to declining yields as the soils were depleted. The remedies were spending energy to try to revitalize the soils, which would reduce the net yield because energy was being invested in managing the soils. Eventually, for Rome, it became "cheaper" to just conquer increasingly distant peoples, enslave them, and turn their lands into farms to feed Rome, using low-energy transportation lanes to bring the plunder.

Again, there were places on Earth with more or less "sustainable" practices, especially in Stone Age cultures, but they would have lower energy surpluses than Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations. Ultimately, it was all about surplus energy, whether it is an organism, ecosystem, or civilization, and preindustrial civilizations always had thin surpluses that could only support small professional and elite classes, with the vast majority being farmers.

So, that idea of energy and collapsing civilizations is by no means new with my work, and Peak Oilers have long been banging the drums of doom for the coming collapse. My work is unique in a few ways. I am the only person I have seen that unites those dynamics at the organism, ecosystem, and civilization level, and I advocate a new energy source that has been tapped for longer than I have been alive, but dysfunctional elites have kept the lid on it for reasons of power. Combining those ideas is the kind of work that I have been doing since I was a teenager. I was a generalist-in-training and did not know it. It was not until I was introduced to Fuller's work in 2003 that I understood what I was.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

OK, on to Akasha's questions/observations. I'll start with one that he made on a new thread devoted to my essay. We have dealt with Keshe's "Messiah" claims here already, so I will not belabor them, but that should be a huge red flag.

Akasha is also right that the technology has been around for a long time, longer than I have been alive. Technology is not really the problem. A huge and potentially fatal delusion amongst FE inventors and their supporters is that governments and corporations would love new energy technologies. I am afraid that nothing could be further from the truth, and those around me learned that one the hard way. Sparky Sweet mailed working prototypes of his FE device to all the big energy institutions, thinking that he would get a tickertape parade, and the opposite happened.

Dennis believed what he read in the newspapers, when the electric companies ran full-page ads on the virtues of conservation. Like Sparky, Dennis thought that he would get the tickertape parade for bringing his energy conservation equipment to market, and the opposite happened. Dennis never gave up, however, and was even invited by the White House to make an eve-of-the-election demonstration of his high-MPG carburetor. He instead got run out of the country. I spoke at Department of Energy hearings for solving the nuclear waste problem, and the man who ran the hearings nicely told us that if our solution did not make a boatload of money for the interests currently "managing" nuclear waste, that our effort would go nowhere.

So, while that "Mr. Messiah goes to Washington" idea has some charm, it is hopelessly naïve. The world does not work that way.

On how reality really works, Akasha asked me to expand on the idea of the means becoming the ends. But first, I'll respond to his other comments in that post. Yes, Paul did not really understand Jesus's message, but needed something to market. I'll definitely agree on the power of love.

So, I first read about the means becoming the ends in Seth's work. I guess that the easiest example is one that Seth gave: there will never be a war to end all wars; only peace will end wars.

What it means in a very practical sense is that when people take actions that violate another's free will in a way that harms them (Michael says that that is how we incur negative karma while we are here in physical reality), as some regrettable but necessary way to reach some ideal, it actually undermines the ideal so that it cannot be achieved. Again, peace through warfare; when has that ever really worked? World War III may not be that far off, if it has not begun already. The West is almost entirely responsible for the mayhem in and around Hydrocarbon Country. The USA's motivation was evil, and never really intended to somehow transplant democracy there, but look at how peaceful it is in Iraq today, more than a decade after we invaded. Just today, I was reading about the massive air strikes that the USA is once again inflicting on Iraq. It is nearly a daily event anymore. Violence begets violence. Peace begets peace.

Seth basically said that acts toward a goal have to be consistent with the goal in order to work. I saw that repeatedly during my days with Dennis. Every time that his company was stolen, the operation crumbled on the thieves. And part of why I am not with Dennis anymore is that he appealed to those scarcity-based ideologies to get people involved, but they are all based on lies. Dennis even called them "Godly deceptions." I was never interested in luring, deceiving, or any of those kinds of activities to get anything going. I have always done my best to make it about truth, about love, about the goal, and getting there with our integrity intact. Because if we sacrifice our integrity to be expedient, we are going to fail. This may also be a Day One response that I might go into more later, but I have done my utmost to not sacrifice the integrity of the work to become "popular," and so on. It never really worked, that I saw. People attracted to expedient stuff that catered to their egos were there to meet their ego needs, which in a world off scarcity meant personal gain, usually economic. That is a big reason for my approach of giving it away. The egocentric and greedy are likely not going to be too interested in my work. There are strategic reasons for that, and one is that an approach like that will not attract the easy prey for the psychopaths, and there will not be much "leverage" that the psychopaths, both the free-lancers and those on the payroll, will be able to use. It will not be an easy nut to crack for them.

My plan is really pretty simple.

• Raise awareness in enough people so that they understand how the world really works and can comprehend what abundance really means;
• Mount a technical effort with those who do the work of raising their awareness that I have laid out, to make a production-ready FE device;
• Give that device away to the world.

That is my recipe for manifesting the biggest event in the human journey.

We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[Nine]

Wade.

Do you know what the "blues" really is...

It is a form of revolution put to music by black american musicians to keep hope alive..

steavie ray was playing...he got killed near twenty miles from my house...

playing the blues is not about being black....

thanx

nine

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Nine:

For several years, I supported a family member who was an aspiring saxophonist and, of course, the sax is for jazz, especially in the USA. He lived with us for about a year in total, and every day, I heard the sax and got to hear a lot about the history of jazz and blues music. I am a going-deaf music fan. I listen to Christmas music year-round (as I am as I write this), and the minor notes in songs are those I usually like best. I also lived with a close relative was a famous jazz musician who played in the Big Band era, and played with Duke Ellington, Della Reese, and many others, and eventually had his own show in Vegas. I got to like Big Band music after hearing it every day for months. That is another long story that I won’t get into today.

As I have stated plenty, I was raised racist, in history's most racist nation, and racism is far from defeated here. I woke up only a few minutes ago, and already I was reading about a protest in Oakland over the racial violence in Missouri that turned ugly, as it has often done in Oakland (I have relatives that lived in Oakland, and some live in Alameda today). And it seems like almost daily, another woman comes forward who claims that Bill Cosby drugged her (race is a big part of that story, and it is heartbreaking; I have little doubt that Cosby did it, and he was the first black entertainer that I remember watching/listening to).

I wonder sometimes if my studies of the awesome crimes that Europe inflicted on the world have something to do with my racist upbringing. I am sure that my American Empire essay is partly inspired by my nationalistic upbringing. Perhaps a little paradoxically, my studies could largely be called a study of humanity, and I have spent a great deal of time thinking about the lives of those getting the short end of the stick (you know, 99% of humanity ), and being sent to work in Skid Row for several months I am sure was part of the "training" that my friends wanted me to go through.

So, the black experience in the USA is one that I am pretty aware of, at least as much as a white person can be, which includes their music. Yes, white people play the blues and jazz, but it comes from the black experience. As the Beatles knew well, rock and roll came from the black experience. Of course, I call for an end of race in my work.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I want to briefly revisit the current oil issue. They are not making any more oil, and we will run out of it in this century.

That guy whose work I recently cited writes more about it. Ultimately, today's collapse in oil prices will lead to an even bigger upward spike one day before long. The whip-sawing of oil prices will wreak havoc through the world economy, and the dominoes have only begun to fall. The big shale oil play in the USA in this whipsaw is going to create some huge financial dislocations, as it has turned into one more bubble in the USA's boom/bust economy.

In the macro picture, cheap energy is always good for economic production, but the huge levering up of capital to go after marginal sources like shale oil, courtesy of all the money that the Federal Reserve has been printing, is going to turn out very badly.

I don't need to tell anybody how insane all of it is, knowing what I do.

Stay nimble,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Here is Day Two of the means becoming the ends, and why I am taking my approach. I have written about the events in great detail on my site and on this thread, and will not belabor it here, but in its essence, what I discovered on my journey was that:

• People are social animals, and social animals are social because it enhances an individual's chance of survival. This is easily seen in monkeys and apes, which display only more sophisticated versions of social behaviors that have hundreds of millions of years of history.
• Humans took it to another level with their large brains and advanced cognitive abilities, and as humans began to develop ideologies, probably only after they mastered language, and the first were probably religions, with their attendant creation myths and other magical views, they were all in-group based.
• All ideologies primarily created in-group cohesion, and always at the expense of the out-group. In a world of scarcity and fear, such ideologies worked, as people abdicated their sentience and integrity for the promise of security, and all such ideologies were egocentric, so people rarely saw beyond their in-group, which is really no different than macaques, and brings up the question of whether that is really sentient behavior.
• Spiritual masters came along now and then and tried to help raise human sentience, and their primary message was along the lines of there not really being an out-group. But professional priesthoods, which appeared with the first civilizations, still were able to corrupt those messages and turn them into in-group ideologies, and as all professions have prostituted themselves, the priesthoods all entered into a Faustian deal and attributed divine nature and/or sanction to the elite, who were anything but divine.
• Even when the rise of science and rational thought began, they were still used to create in-group ideologies at the expense of the out-group. Perhaps the only virtue of those new in-group ideologies was that they usually expanded human ideas of an in-group. I maintain that until people see all life on Earth as their in-group, humanity won't quite be a sentient species. Scarcity and fear, which keeps people locked into their egocentric delusions, is the biggest barrier that I see to humanity's achieving full sentience. Scientists can tell that fear literally shuts down the human neocortex, which is where our sentience is seated.
• I luckily escaped heavy religious indoctrination, but was indoctrinated by nationalism, capitalism, and even racism, which is indeed a primitive ideology. I also was trained to be a scientist, but had experiences that showed me how false the ideologies are that form the foundation of the rationalist-materialist paradigm. Although I soon began questioning my capitalist indoctrination, it was not until my wild ride with Dennis that I became radicalized, and realized that all ideologies were likely false and used for the same purpose of creating in-group ideologies (primarily designed to serve the interests of those concocting the ideologies) at the expense of the "expendable" out-group.
• After I staggered out of my home town, radicalized, I began to study what I was taught while growing up, and learned that almost all of it was lies. I then encountered some great people of conscience, and their prodigious works were largely devoted to exposing the falseness of the dominant in-group ideologies, and their great conscience was evident in my interactions with them. Some woke up the hard way, like I did, and we often recognized each other as kindred souls, and we all realized how rare we were, and how lonely our journeys were.
• I had very much larger-than-life experiences that led me to my closest allies, and what great humans they were. However, to one degree or another, they were still not quite unhooked from their conditioning. I am the only American FE activist that I know of who got all the red, white, and blue Kool-Aid out of his/her mouth, and I also got the capitalist Kool-Aid out of my mouth, and was fortunate that I really did not ever drink much of the religious Kool-Aid. Dennis never left his religious indoctrination behind, Brian had a self-admittedly codependent relationship with his nation's capital, and Mr. Professor probably never quite gave up his capitalist orientation.
• I was "lucky" in that I was able to leave behind my indoctrination into the dominant ideologies, both the primitive and the sophisticated. I still live on Earth, and have to navigate my life through hordes of people endlessly kneeling to those various altars, and it has not been easy.
• What I noticed, as I helped Dennis and Brian mount mass movement efforts to make FE happen, which would make all of those ideologies obsolete, was that in one way or another, we were catering to those ideologies, and hence, people's self-interest. Self-interested people are easily defeated on the FE playing field. After surviving disaster after disaster as our efforts were wiped out or imploded, I slowly came to realize that an effort that catered to any of those in-group ideologies was doomed. I realized that the only path with a prayer had to be aligned with the goal: of helping humanity become a truly sentient species. The lessons of the masters were not lost on me, and I realized that only a path of love and enlightenment had a prayer. I am not saying that I reached those states, but I know that striving for them is the only path with a prayer, and those realizations have informed my "choir" idea.
• Mr. Professor and Brian are gone, and Mr. Professor died before I really had achieved the perspective that guides my efforts today, but I shared my approach with Brian, and just before he died, he was planning to promote my approach, and when I mentioned it to Dennis last year, he also saw that I was advocating something new and unusual. It certainly is, and I do not know if it will work or not, but I had to try it. Impatience is my Achilles' heel, and my path has been teaching me patience, even as people all around me become desperate, and even the dimmest among us sees a grim road ahead, although for the masses, it rarely strays past their immediate self-interest and how they can survive what is coming.

So, that is a Day Two outline of my lessons on how the means become the ends, and if I want to help humanity achieve a world in which love, enlightenment, and abundance reigns, my effort has to be aligned with those ideals as much as possible, and that is largely how I came to my approach, and I have married it to recent ideas such as open-sourcing, which are aligned with that vision.

The bottom line is that I know that I am looking for needles in haystacks, but this new tool called the Internet will help me find them, and them find me. We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[Nine]

Wade,

You talked about some of the women in your life and how you could have taken advantage of them sexually and you did not do that wade....

Some folks say that there is much power with sex and others say that one should forgo such pleasures in this life.

Some say that sexual energy builds a sort of energy grid over planet earth of course my BS meter is on high alert with such things....

Some say that this energy grid is controlled by dark forces and of course we see darkness all around us and unspeakable evil...

I have a daughter that I dearly love and if she were on the down and out I would prey that she met some one like you...

And even the evil Illuminati princess lady Ga Ga is someones daughter...

Conspiracy folk say that about her all the time...

And so I arrived home tonight and flipped on the tube and on PBS was a great performance series with lady Ga Ga and Tony Bennit with a forty piece big band playing the blues and the American song book...

Lady Ga Ga was just brilliant in her performance of traditional American Jazz standards no mater how you view her popular music...

I simply was wowed and blown away...and that band blowing the blues was simply increadable Wade....a must watch...

I think that Tony Bennit might just have rescued this women from the dark force through art. American art. Which is the blues...

Of course time will tell.

You have stated that you have given up on America and its ideal.

That might be a valid perspective upon American society but I have not thrown in the cultural towel yet wade...

And the ideal and the reality are two different things.

Are ideals bad Wade? And when ideals and reality come upon each other I suppose that is the test...

Jazz music is not about Washington politics but above such things and maybe about humanity...

do I know for sure?

Of course not...just asking a question...

Nine

[Nine]

dearest Wade...

I am not looking for a savior.

That would say that one is not responsible for his or her part in what is really going on...

I promise that I will finish your essay on the human journey and to comment upon it.

I am in the European epoch upon your journey and that is a subject that I have been educated upon...

Some would say that you are very arrogant and others would say that you are very enlightened....

I am leaning to the sources that say that you are very enlightened...

However,

as I see things there is a global group of folks that are controlling tech and restricting such...

The way I see things is to shout out about how to change this dynamic...

No answers from the likes of me...

Much love to you wade..

Thanx

nine

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

With the collapse in oil prices, there is going to be a great deal of financial havoc, especially in oil-exporting nations and those who have levered up on cheap money to go after marginal sources of oil, and that means the USA, as I have been writing.

I wrote about the last bubble before it popped, and was in high tech in 1999 and I predicted that that bubble would pop into a bloody mess. I have been talking about the shale oil "boom" for a few years now, and predicted that the boom would end in a collapse, and that is now beginning. As with those previous bubbles, even I underestimated the carnage that it would inflict, and I may have done so again. I was not predicting that the end of the shale oil boom would take down the financial economy again, but it is beginning to look like it is the domino that will.

Madly printing money and giving it away (mostly to their friends and patrons on Wall Street) is a sure-fire prescription for these disasters. I cannot believe that the architects of these serial catastrophes are really that stupid, to keep blowing one bubble after another. In the USA, the federal government passed a spending bill this week, and tucked into it was a provision for the taxpayers to basically guarantee Wall Street's gambling in this easy money environment. The identical thing happened with the Savings and Loan Scandal of the 1980s. Oh, is the game ever rigged, but it is just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. But the architects know what they are doing, and their afterlives (if they are not lynched before it is all over) will be similar to Max's. We all go to where we are attracted, and how we spend our life's energies will determine where that is, as it sets the pattern of our thoughts and behaviors that we take with us.

Hi Nine:

Sex is certainly one way to rack up a bunch of karma. The Michael Material states that sex is how humans access their essence (AKA "soul"). All ensouled species have a biological mechanism that allows them to access their essence. Michael stated that one species that he knew of did it through a vocalization (orgasmic singing, if you will). So, sex not only has deep "spiritual" ramifications, but great practical ones. I write a great deal about gender in my work, and have repeatedly stated that women will have to step up to make FE happen. It cannot be a bunch of men trying to be heroes and getting rich and famous. That dynamic is why we have FE aspirants announcing that they are the Messiah or Second Coming, trying to become the Bill Gates of FE, etc. And one such messianic aspirant is trying to make waves today, gathering his "flock" to him. Heck, one reason why I am not with Dennis is because of his subscription to a messianic religion. I have witnessed the downside of that mentality, and am doing my best to create a "No-Hero Zone" with my effort. I am looking for singers, not soldiers and heroes. During my journey, people have treated me like a hero, and when they do, I know that they will eventually attack me, as the hero/villain trip is theirs, not mine. When people seek heroes to worship or villains to attack, it is one more way to play the victim game. I recently mentioned how Brian was surrounded by groupies at the NEM conference.

The standard New Age dynamic is a man with a mystical haircut and other guru trappings who writes books, does the talk circuit, and builds his harems (a woman in every town is one way that they do it). He might even have some genuine mystical talent, but he uses it to get paid and laid. It was a model in LA's New Age scene, but is a very old pattern, and the women are as responsible for that sorry state of affairs as the men are. That tired dynamic is another low-integrity situation that cannot be part of any successful FE effort, for instance.

As I have stated, while the site that I completed in 2002 was largely about helping readers see through the scarcity-based ideologies that trap people's consciousness, my big essay was approached as a scientist. Arguably the world's foremost scientist on the subjects covered in the first half of my essay (and the way that I covered them, as a "popularizer") said that it was one of the best efforts that he ever saw. I approached the last half of my essay like I did the first, but I am not sure that I could find a historian that could weigh in on my "historical" work (because it takes the scientist's approach more than the historian's), although Howard Zinn, arguably the USA's most important historian, praised my Columbus essay. Brian O was probably my work's biggest fan, and was planning on promoting my "choir" approach before he died. So, I have heard from the best, and I have almost always received nothing but praise. My best critics have always been my allies, as they tried to make my work better, and I have always eagerly awaited constructive criticism.

My work has also been assailed numerous times, but not one of those assailants ever made honest, rational, and informed arguments, but were playing egocentric games of defending their in-group ideology, and some were on the payroll. We always have to be wary of our egos trying to take over, but mine went through the meat grinder many times during my journey, and when soldiers like me get old, we realize that we do not have many good years left, and we just want to make a dent in the best way we know how. But there is no end of FE newbies trying to play the hero, build their harems, and play other unproductive games. Keshe is my age, playing his "I am the Messiah" games today, and he is just one of the many casualties of the FE playing field (he has not even really stepped on the playing field yet), and the groupies and hero-worshippers are flocking to him today, as usual. So, that should be a cautionary tale for anybody in this field, but he is just the latest to go off the deep end like that.

For better or worse, there is nothing else like my big essay on Earth, and my choir effort is unique. It beats me if it is going to work, but I had to try. It is not intended for the masses, as they have too many delusions to shed before they can begin to understand. Their eyes will only begin to open when an FE device is delivered into their lives. But it has been that way for every Epochal Event, and there is no point in judging their blindness and allegiance to the in-group ideologies that feed them. Humanity is currently a semi-sentient species, with its awareness bounded by scarcity and fear. But some can wake up before FE is delivered into their lives, and those are whom I seek.

On American culture, its "enlightened" nature is only due to its relative economic abundance, as always. As we have been in economic decline, a lot of ugliness has surfaced, and it will continue as we run out of energy. Bush was our Caligula, and that the 2016 "election" looks like it will be between Hillary and Jeb is mind-boggling and shows how like Rome the USA really is, and we are headed toward that same fate, and fast. Nobody on Earth should look to the USA as leading the way away from the abyss, but it is leading the rush toward it.

Best,

Wade

[Akasha]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
.....on how the means become the ends..... if I want to help humanity achieve a world in which love, enlightenment, and abundance reigns, my effort has to be aligned with those ideals as much as possible, and that is largely how I came to my approach.....

I think that nails it. Many thanks.

Also, I've just been listening to your interview with Carol Brouillet again. inspiring stuff and as with all your interviews, always worth a revisit.
In that interview I was struck by the seemingly paradoxical notion that we waste stuff because we don't have enough energy, and yet it makes perfect sense once more than a cursory thought is given to it.
The drive to recycle stuff even with our current limited resources is, to me, an indicator that with FE we would make things better, not worse.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Akasha:

Damn, you made me listen to that interview!

I had not listened to it since around 2009. It was my first public interview, nearly seven years ago. I have some comments to make about it, so here goes.

For one thing, not bad, not bad at all. I was mildly surprised at how much that interview is like my work today. I suppose that about the only thing that has changed much since then is my Epochal Event perspective (and my "choir" strategy, but you can see me leaning toward it in that interview), which I really did not begin to develop like you see it today until about 2009. By 2010, that perspective was pretty clear in my work. But it even became more paradigmatic as I studied for my big essay in the past few years and wrote it.

I clearly recall withdrawing for about a month from public interaction before the interview, to mentally prepare for it. It was during that month of withdrawal that a forum with a section devoted to my work erased that entire section. ATS banned me at about the same time, as trolls swarmed me. It was then that I decided that if I ever interacted directly with the public again, that it had to be my own forum, and this thread can come close. My midlife crisis only ended a little more than year before that interview, and my day job at that moment had been nearly five years of uninterrupted mayhem. I was pretty burned out in early 2008, kind of at the end of my rope.

Brian began to come back into my life in 2007, after the NEM fiasco, and his pal Keith Lampe set up that interview with Carol. When I published this essay in August 2008, it brought Brian fully back into my life, and the next year, I did my Camelot interview, which I think might still be my favorite, especially since Brian participated. Kudos to Bill and Kerry for doing it.

My subsequent interviews with (mostly) Scott were pretty fun to do. Scott and Bill have a lot of savoir faire. I actually skipped the interaction with the second caller on Carol's show this morning as I listened, as it was an unpleasant memory for me, as he came on to challenge me and grind his ax. That is an example of why I am kind of leery of interviews, especially a live one like that. Kind of bizarrely, Minto's grandson later tried to contact me about that interview and wanted to challenge the "falsehoods" that I stated about Minto. If he had actually listened to the interview, he would have realized that I did not say anything about Minto other than I had heard about him. The caller brought him up, not me. I did not even pronounce Minto's name accurately in the interview, as I had only briefly read about him several years earlier, among the many other FE aspirants that I was aware of. As I recall, I only read about Minto because he was referred to in that 2001 libel attack on Dennis, as the author tried to give credit to Minto and deny it to Dennis.

So, listening to that interview reminds me that I had once thought of doing some interviews in the wake of publishing my big essay. I am still kind of divided about that. Interviews can only scratch the surface, and finding venues where I can really talk about my work without callers like caller number two of Carol's interview, or being challenged by interviewers who have not done their homework, is no fun for me and makes the interviews something far less than they could be.

We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[Akasha]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
…...I actually skipped the interaction with the second caller on Carol's show this morning as I listened, as it was an unpleasant memory for me, as he came on to challenge me and grind his ax. That is an example of why I am kind of leery of interviews, especially a live one like that. Kind of bizarrely, Minto's grandson later tried to contact me about that interview and wanted to challenge the "falsehoods" that I stated about Minto. If he had actually listened to the interview, he would have realized that I did not say anything about Minto other than I had heard about him. The caller brought him up, not me. I did not even pronounce Minto's name accurately in the interview, as I had only briefly read about him several years earlier, among the many other FE aspirants that I was aware of. As I recall, I only read about Minto because he was referred to in that 2001 libel attack on Dennis, as the author tried to give credit to Minto and deny it to Dennis.

…..

It sounded to me like Minto's grandson was simply describing a typical, seemingly innocuous, golden handcuffs scenario, whereby Nissan paid up, took control of the situation and shelved it either as a result of consultation with their marketing dept (as they claimed) or perhaps actually as a result of covert GC input into the situation. Moreover, whilst no doubt being a disruptive technology, it was clearly not on the same scale as ZPE and similar over-unity tech'.

Also his "cat-tails" concept, although having merit, relies on pollution in the form of phosphates etc' to feed the plants in question. Whilst not without ecological value in the current framework, it is a another band-aid on a scarcity symptom rather than abundant healing manifest.

That all said, I'd say you handled that part of the interview fine.

[Wade Frazier]

Oh, I handled it OK, but it was not fun. That was not Minto's grandson who called, but some guy who worked with Minto. Minto's grandson tried to look me up through Carol a year later, with his beef about how Minto was treated in the interview. His beef should have been with the caller, not me!

[Akasha]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
Oh, I handled it OK, but it was not fun. That was not Minto's grandson who called, but some guy who worked with Minto. Minto's grandson tried to look me up through Carol a year later, with his beef about how Minto was treated in the interview. His beef should have been with the caller, not me!

Ahh yeah. Apologies. Just re-listened to that bit and the caller says his grandfather funded Wally Minto.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

OK, anecdote time. Because my memory is nearly photographic, and so many of my life's events were so much larger than life, I could spend years making anecdotal posts that would be relevant to my FE journey, what I learned, and how those events helped bring me to my perspective today, but there is only so much time in a life. This Avalon thread banter keeps bringing up memories from my journey, not all of them unpleasant by any means, although many are agonizing to revisit, but taking a public stance like I have means that I have to keep revisiting the events of my journey.

I have written plenty about my days in Boston with Dennis on this thread (1, 2, 3, 4), but left out some anecdotes relevant to recent writings and correspondence. I mentioned somewhere on this thread that when I saw Dennis last year, during our long talks I mentioned how pleasant our days in Boston were, and Dennis agreed. For all that we were going through, it was the calm before the storm in Ventura, and the days up until the spring of 1987 capped the happiest year of my life, which began when I met Dennis in March 1986. You can see several pics from 1986 on my site, which was the best hiking year of my life.

When I raised the money to save us and became Dennis's partner, I was still as innocent as a babe, but that would soon change. Before our first Greatest Energy Shows on Earth (what a name! ), Dennis and I worked a home show, which was one of those affairs in a huge convention center like airplane hangars. We had one of the hundreds of exhibits at that show. We had a promotional videotape playing from the Seattle operation and we handed out flyers for our upcoming shows. I put one of them on my site, here. We were at that home show for a few days, as I recall, maybe even for an entire week, and it was definitely one of my life's happiest experiences, as Dennis and I worked our booth and handed out thousands of flyers. You really have to see Dennis to believe him, and at that home show, I got to see Dennis the carny barker. It was an incredible performance to witness.

At the first show, held where the Boston Tea Party was planned (Dennis's playing the nationalism card, once again), only about 35 people attended. I towed the demo unit for the shows behind my Pinto on a trailer that I had to rent for each show. You can see an image from the show, with Dennis in his white tuxedo in the pulpit. After the show, I helped clean up after the "crowd," in the seating, and I am attaching an image of what somebody had drawn during the show and left in the seats. I still get a chuckle every time I look at it. I shared it with Dennis sometime in the past 20 years, and he got a chuckle, too.

The bottom line was that Dennis's original FE idea, of marrying his heat pump with that low-temperature turbine, was a naïve idea that was not going to work. When Mr. Mentor eventually came forward with his hydraulic heat engine to marry with the panels from Dennis's heat pump, there we might have had something. He eventually got a Fischer engine to work for 24 hours, and people such as Eugene Mallove believed that such an arrangement could do FE, even if the Second Law of Thermodynamics said that we couldn't. But our "threat" to Godzilla went far beyond any particular technology that we might have been developing, as I later learned.

We did a series of four shows, originally, and then a few more in the subsequent months. I did about ten shows with Dennis. Other than a small newspaper, the Boston media would not cover us. By our last shows in Boston, we had a few hundred per show. We pretty much came and went in Boston without much public awareness of our efforts.

However, even though the public was oblivious, that did not mean that everybody was. Right after we held a show near the front gates of the Seabrook Nuclear Facility, Dennis mailed his proposal to buy the Seabrook facility and instead use it for energy storage fed by FE machines. Seabrook's Chairman of the Board called our hole-in-the-wall office with minutes of receiving the proposal and said that he could come to our office within an hour to discuss our proposal. Instead, Dennis and Mr. Engineer met with the Chairman and his advisors the next week at his palatial penthouse office. At that meeting, his advisors admitted that they attended our show at the facility's front gates. Dennis got the red carpet treatment, but it soon became clear that they were trying to placate him. We had some connections on the inside, and heard that all of New England's electric companies had secret meetings to decide what to do with us, and they decided that maybe they would have to work with us. It was all radically different than the treatment that Dennis got in Seattle. At one of our later shows, the head of the DOE for New England stood up in the Q&A at the show's end and was quite polite in asking us when we thought that we could deliver FE. Nevertheless, the local prosecutor was sharpening his ax and the Massachusetts Secretary of State went on a fishing expedition just before we moved, trying to ensnare us in securities violations.

I also met a billionaire who was interested in what we were doing, and according to Dennis when I saw him last year, that billionaire was still interested, but I never met or heard of a truly altruistic rich person. They are just opportunists. Also, just after we mounted our first shows, we got the first entreaty that I can now confidently say came from Godzilla, when some non-descript "businessmen" came to our office and offered us $10 million for the rights to our bright idea. A year later, a CIA man representing Godzilla added a couple of zeroes to the offer, before they lowered the boom on us.

There were many other events like those that showed that while the public was oblivious, people in high places weren't. It was then that I not only had to consider the real possibility that I would lose my life playing our game, but I also had those fleeting delusions of grandeur that I have written about. It comes with the territory of chasing the biggest event in the human journey, although even we were not thinking as epochally about FE as I eventually came to see the situation, which made the interest from those high places a lot more understandable. I intimately understand the delusions behind an FE inventor announcing that he is the Second Coming or the Messiah. It is one of the many pitfalls that await the aspirant, and I never saw many who could navigate the perils and temptations for long.

Right around that time, I began to get attacked by my investors, led by a former girlfriend, of all people. I quickly lost my innocence, and was disabused of many delusions over the next couple of years.

There is a point coming, and I'll just state here that although it could seem like life was "normal" in those days somewhat for us, and those closest to us were oblivious, as was the general public, at the highest councils on Earth we became a problem that Godzilla had never quite faced before, and we became a puzzle to solve. Eventually, even the Rockefellers and Rothschilds got involved, and because they approached us and used their names, I doubt that they play at Godzilla's level. There are several level of that food chain, and the sitting American president is nowhere near the top.

I do not want to get too far into the details of events that I have written about at length, but we were wiped out in Ventura with extreme prejudice, and Dennis eventually was set up be murdered on more than one occasion, and he really should not have survived. His journey has been filled with events in which he should not have survived, including several murder attempts. When they kangarooed Dennis into prison and tried to get him killed, Dennis's inmates sure did not know anything about Dennis and what he was dealing with. He was just another "criminal" like them, and somebody whom they promised to murder for being a "snitch," and they let him off with only some fingers broken and teeth knocked out, to enforce their "credibility" in that prison shark tank that Dennis was tossed into.

That is all a prelude to the point I am about to make. I have put up the magnum opus essay of my lifetime on my site with little fanfare, and it can seem like my effort might be going nowhere. I assure you that some in Godzilla's employ have read it. I am on the radar, although I hope it is low for now. Probably the world's leading authority weighed in on the material in the first half of my essay and announced that it was one of the best efforts that he ever saw. But some of my closest friends and allies will not only never read it, they think that I am kind of crazy for even writing it. I have been challenged, particularly by the scientifically illiterate who have read some of it, who favor some fringe hypothesis over my account. But they do not even begin to have the discernment to validate any of it; my work just conflicts with their beliefs or something they read one day. Some fringe author caught their fancy, and they dismiss my work because I do not sing Velikovsky's song, for instance. That essay's first half only lays the foundation for the last half, where the real meat in that essay is.

If you do the work and begin to comprehend my message, it will nearly be guaranteed that nobody else in your life will be interested or will be capable of understanding. They will usually be prevented from understanding by their predilections, usually because they cannot see past their in-group ideologies, as my work invalidates all of them, and nobody likes to see their oxen gored. In the end, it comes down to personal integrity, and almost nobody on Earth really has very much of that, which was my journey's primary lesson.

There are very real dangers to digesting my work, and one of the most dangerous is that when the realizations of the implications of my work dawn on you, it can not only overwhelm you, but you think that those around you will also recognize its importance. With extremely few exceptions, you will not find anybody else in your life who feels that way or is interested. In fact, you will have strayed so far past conventional "thinking" that those around you will feel that you have lost your mind or they will see you as a subversive threat to civilization, and you will be subjected to some kind of modern equivalent of being burned at the stake.

I cannot overemphasize that peril, but newbies almost always scoff, as they know that those in their social circles will have the right stuff to grasp the validity and magnitude of my work. That can be an extremely perilous delusion to harbor. I have witnessed friendships, family relationships, and even careers end over my work, as people who began to grasp my work tried to tell others in their circles the "good news."

I kind of made my big essay so that people can just send a link to others, and then stand back and watch what happens. Unless you can hear them begin to try to sing the song, I would not engage them for long. If they react in fear, denial, and the other kinds of reactions that I have seen, you should immediately revert back to talking about the weather or whatever topics you previously had in common with them, and leave my work alone when interacting with them. And you may have a difficult time in refraining from judging them. They may now think that you are crazy, but if you do not press it, they may just see you as a harmless nut. As I have stated many times, I am looking for needles in haystacks, and I do not expect this to be a quick process. But for those who do the work and want to learn to sing the abundance song, I will be here. I have budgeted the rest of my lifetime's "spare" time for building that choir.

Time for chores.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Another chapter tweaked, on the rise of Europe. Nine would barely notice the difference between the current version and the one he just read. Here is a choir Q&A that I thought of while tweaking that chapter.

Q: Wade, so why Europe? Why did it rise and conquer humanity?

A: Well, let me surprise you: energy! When I wrote the preview of my upcoming essay in 2010, I described the Epochal Events this way:


"Each epoch of humanity’s past was initiated and sustained by achieving the social organization and technological prowess that enabled the exploitation of previously unexploitable energy resources."


Four years and one monster essay later, I doubt that I can improve on that, and the rise of Europe, even though I called it Epochal Event 3.5, was a watershed series of energy events. Basically, Europe took Greek technology much further in harnessing wind and water power. Watermills became the dominant energy technology on land, but the greatest feat that Europe achieved was harnessing the winds that blew across the world's oceans, particularly the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Europe turned the global ocean into a low-energy transportation lane, and more than any other achievement, that allowed them to conquer the world. No other culture in world history was as seafaring as those Europeans were as they conquered the world.

The closest thing to it was ships plying the Indian Ocean and sailing along East Asia, as Chinese and Japanese fisherman and merchants did. The Polynesian Expansion was performed with canoes, and the Indian Ocean was easy and predictable sailing compared to the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Where I live in the Pacific Northwest, for three millennia, sailing ships disabled in storms in the Western Pacific washed ashore on the coastline, and the hapless survivors were enslaved by native tribes. It must have seemed miraculous to those natives that the ocean continually served up a supply of slaves. When Europeans eventually came calling in the Pacific Northwest (brutally, of course), they found that many "Indians" looked just like Japanese fishermen.

Nobody else on Earth could match Europe's skill at sailing the world's oceans, but that was not the only reason for their advantage. While late 20th-century anthropology finally laid to rest the "peaceful savage" myth, Europe took warfare and violence to new levels as they incessantly fought each other for millennia, and they used technological advances to improve their weaponry. The Reconquest and Crusades in particular were crucibles for Middle Ages Europeans to hone their violent arts, and the Reformation led to a series of wars which culminated in the devastating 30 Years' War, in which the concept of "total war" took root. The ruthless, win-at-all costs style of European warfare really took the rest of the world by surprise, and when Spaniards with their steel, horses, man-eating dogs, cannons, and sailing ships encountered the Stone Age peoples of the Western Hemisphere, the natives never stood a chance, and the diseases that Europeans brought with them devastated all peoples that they encountered outside of Eurasia and Africa. The peoples of Asia and Africa did not succumb to European diseases, but Europeans enslaved them, India most infamously, although the Transatlantic African slave trade is one of world history's blackest chapters.

What Europeans brought with them allowed them to conquer the world, but it was their mastery of ocean travel that allowed them to do it.

Best,

Wade

[Nine]

Wade,

Hero's are for fools. I am under no illusions such as those.

I have a Christmas song for you since you love Christmas music...I am an old burned soldier of the system.

Lady gaga and tony Bennett performing at the Rockefeller center last week.

Put it on and close your eyes and don't think of Lady gaga's pop crap and tripe. Just listen to her sing. Tony is 88 years old and rocking!

This is first class Jazz. First class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODid2noMnaA

I view your work and since you use a musical expression called the choir as a meme I would say its more complicated in musical terms.

We have bands and orchestras that have choirs added to them.

And looking at Jazz we have small quartets like in the video posted or a large ensemble with written parts for the ensemble and even a conductor.

In the big band the most important position is the lead trumpet player. A very serious job and very difficult since the lead player is the one who soars above the ensemble with his/her high notes.

And his/her interpretation of the chart and the phrasing used determines the sound of the ensemble and even the solo vocalist.

Yet to be successful one must lead confidently and gently interpreting the score that is written down.

In the big band we have the vocalist out front singing the song and at times individuals will come from the ensemble for a solo which is the height of creativity. And in the big band it is usually the third trumpet position that gets the solo as the first trumpet or the "lead" trumpets job is so difficult and I mean physically difficult because of the demands of hitting those high notes accurately....

Wade, I see your work as that of a composer if we are using musical terms and that music is a form of communication when one really gets down to it and you are looking for like minded musicians and singers to produce something real in musical terms.

What Tony and Gaga did in that video is take the score or the American song book and bring it to life.

Can you tell I am gaga about Gaga?

Huge talent...

Off for more reading of your essay...

thanx

Nine

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Nine:

That was a great performance, really. Bennett has truly been one of my heroes, a grunt in World War II who forcefully spoke out against the invasion of Iraq. Not many high-profile Americans did that. I really do not follow Lady Gaga, and I doubt that I ever heard one of her songs before, but she has a set of pipes on her!

OK, Nine, here will be a fun series of anecdotes that your jazz stuff brought up. I doubt that I have ever told this series of anecdotes publicly before. I could tell a lot more than you will read below, but it will be about all that I can publicly state.

My close relative was a professional musician who began as a drummer, and his style was modeled after Buddy Rich. He was the drummer in jazz bands, which is where he got his start, and I believe that he played with those jazz legends mainly as a drummer. But when he was around 20, he was in a band, and the other band members told him that in that band, everybody had to sing. My relative replied that he did not sing, but the band members said that if he wanted to be in the band, he had to sing. So, they had him sing a song, and when he finished, they said that he sounded just like Frank Sinatra. This was in the 1950s. That began my relative's singing career.

He eventually had his own show at a couple of Vegas casinos in the late 1950s and early 1960s, during the Rat Pack days. His claim to fame was being a Frank Sinatra sound-alike, and he knew the Rat Packers and once talked to Frank about his situation, and Frank just told him to be himself and sing like himself, and if he sounded like Frank, well, he did.

One day, my relative was listening to one of Frank's new records, and realized that it was him singing on one of "Frank's" songs, not Frank! He was astounded. The producers had put him on one of Frank's records as Frank, and never asked for his permission or paid him for it. When my relative found out, the producers were afraid that my relative would sue, but he was just flattered that they would do it, and he never asked for any money or recognition.

When my relative worked in Vegas, he lived across the street from the gangster that ran Vegas. When I tell this story, I have called the gangster "Tony," and not many years ago, I looked up Vegas in those days, and the gangster who ran Vegas really was named Tony, so using Tony may well be accurate. When you make a living performing in a casino, you have night-owl hours, so my relative slept in the daytime and worked at night.

After six months or so of living across the street from the gangster that ran Vegas, my relative decidedly to finally pay his respects to his neighbor on a day off. So, he walked across the street, and two huge bodyguards were in front of the house, gangster style, but as my relative approached, they acted like a rock star arrived (well, I guess that he was), and said that Tony would love to meet him. So, my relative was ushered into the gangster's palace and was led through it back to Tony's "bedroom." This was in about 1960, mind you, and Tony's bedroom was a few thousand square feet. As my relative walked into the "bedroom," in the far corner was a hot tub, inset into the floor. In 1960, I doubt that many of those existed in the USA, but it was a perk that came with being the gangster who ran Vegas.

As my relative walked into the room, Tony was sitting in that hot tub (not sure if there were any women in the tub with him, but that would not be surprising), and as Tony saw my relative, he jumped out of the hot tub and eagerly walked over to my relative, as if a rock star had come into the room, and Tony was stark naked! This was Vegas, baby, so my relative took it in stride, that this naked gangster was treating my relative like Sinatra. After a couple of minutes of happy talk, Tony said that he wanted to kiss my relative. A naked gangster wanted to kiss my relative. What would you do? So, my relative let Tony kiss him, on the lips, and when Tony finished his smooch, he said that my relative was now part of the "family," and that if my relative ever needed anything, to just ask Tony.

They kept chatting, and I do not know if Tony finally put a robe on or not, but in their conversation, Tony asked my relative if he ever thought about fixing up his house, and my relative said that he thought about maybe painting the house and putting up a fence. After some time, the conversation ended and my relative went home. The next day he goes to work, and when he gets home in the wee hours after his show, his home had a new paint job and a white picket fence surrounding it.

In Vegas, when the mob ran it, entertainers like my relative were treated kind of like cherished pets, as that story with Tony demonstrates. I lived with that relative for several months when I was young, and I was into rock music at that time (Queen was my favorite band. I was pretty fanatical, and saw Queen on their final tour in the USA in 1982, and saw the next-to-last show that they ever played in the USA – there will never be another like Freddie). But every day when I got home, the house was blasting to Big Band music, and I eventually got to like it. To this day, I have a song list that I play pretty regularly that has Sinatra and other singers on it, playing those Big Band songs from the 1940s to 1960s.

My relative sometimes played his own records for me, and he played me that song on the Sinatra album when it was really my relative singing. It sounded just like Frank to me, and I asked my relative if he really sounded exactly like Frank, and he said it was close, but on that song, the producers altered the timbre of his voice just a little in post-production so that it sounded exactly like Frank.

Having your own lounge act in Vegas in the late 1950s and early 1960s meant a certain "lifestyle," and my relative smoked and drank like the rest of them, but it was his downfall, and drinking, among some other dynamics, saw him drink his way out of Vegas. Sammy Davis Junior remarked about my relative, "What a waste of talent." I miss my relative, who was a casualty of our system in a number of ways.

Now I am off to tweak my Industrial Revolution chapter, which is another monster.

Best,

Wade