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    Default Re: Radical feminism is destroying young men.

    There's so much variation in feelings & the way everyone was brought up through life, made to feel that they weren't who they were supposed to be when really it's just the opposite, make it real, Become Who You Are n people will love you for that, it's not only brave, it's honest, traits anyone can share
    someone said once.. if youre not being yourself then you don't exist..


    I know a couple people who are non-binary, meaning they don't IDENTIFY as either gender-roll scripted for us, but fall somewhere inbetween expressing simply as human beings. some say even there is a 3rd gender, who knows? IMO if there was a 3rd gender, it would be becoming who you are, because no 'ideas' like that can define you..
    We let pain define us, yea, pain brought on "by gender obligations" in the past, certain misgiving or attitudes portrayed by scared, sad lonely people of whatever sex, trying to make a living to get by, didn't know how else to be. We have different attributes & there's nothing wrong with having different strengths, so we can back eachother up, just like some people in different positions will do a better job in TRUTH (actuality) with science, teaching, medicine, farming, crafting, building, etc. & EVERYONE has got to get back into flowing contact with LOVE
    #1, 2nd Sharing n the rest, it can go from there.. yea?

    can you bend gender guidlines? can we change hurt to mending??

    can I share a poem with you?
    it's old

    ..The fire of masculine energy is a strong one and it
    has many powerful coals backing up its flames in waves
    of heat.. but with this perceived scene of separation
    from the feminine flame..the masculine fire burns on....


    A feminine fire burns too.. not far away, with many
    coals and strong all encompassing heat, aswell. These
    two fires would burn much brighter if brought together,
    to blaze they're true light. the gentle spark within us
    all, ever warmed by love..
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    Default Re: Radical feminism is destroying young men.

    I find Teal Scott's teachings on this subject to be informative.

    http://youtu.be/Vnbi2tiTHAk

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    Default Feminism backlash: Media programming, endocrine disruptors, will men find their hearts again?

    Old-Thinker News | December 12, 2014

    By Ariel Gail Maclean

    In response to Paul Joseph Watson’s commentary on the “Sexodous”

    When men and women save themselves in front of one another, eventually we will recognize one another, reach out for the other’s hand, and this path back into one another’s arms might save the human race in time

    I am in the Third Stage / First Wave Feminism Backlash whereby not only are there rapidly shrinking age-appropriate males even alive, they are so NOT psycho-spiritually/emotionally available that the pool of prospective Love Partners is down to a virtual zero.

    So many people have not learned / do not simply Love themselves. If they did, they would engage with their own self-development as a person. I understand this article is authored by my grandkids’ generation and is being appreciated by much younger people, but I would like to elevate the broadcast by explaining this: Somewhere along the way, the oldest Boomers forgot to talk to one another too – we who have suffered the longest (longetudinally) by what I believe is the end result of nearly a century of Sick Media Programming.

    The Heterosexual Grand Canyon you speak of is an END RESULT (and now a cause of further schism) of the loss of the primary cultural, psycho-spiritual, and moral connectors between human beings – the one between a Man and a Woman. So, yes, your descriptions of the symptoms are extremely accurate but they are symptoms of the dis-ease. The Disease is our individual inability to deal with reality, to live truthfully in terms of our relationship with our self, and this foundation “skill” – to See Ourselves As We Are, as opposed to how we are told we need to appear, or how we wish we were, or how our spin-mythology would have us believe – this is the essential missing ingredient which precludes being able to change, grow, adapt, self-correct across and within all generations.

    It all starts with personal honesty which is so much more than the absence of outright lies; no one is qualified to develop this essential adult skill except each of us as individuals. Lack of personal honesty about who we are and what we actually do, pre-determines our capacity to correctly view the world around us, to understand and be an effective, informed Citizen, and to effect any change anywhere. We must first SEE THINGS, including ourselves, AS THEY ARE. It is very painful to see what is essentially the accumulated wisdom of an entire civilization being squandered almost overnight but that is what is happening in the world and our beloved country, the good ole US of A leads the pack with the most asleep population on the planet.

    The second point I regret to have to make is that males especially, and of all generations, are suffering from widespread consumption saturation of a plethora of hormone disrupters.

    This has accumulated to such a degree in all our water and food, and has so permeated prescribed medications that both men and women consume daily by virtue of the fact that we drink and eat, that the elephant in the room has to be the unknown impact of the most pharmaceutically contaminated country on the face of the Earth. Something like 87% of the mood-altering (and hormone disrupting) drugs (street and prescribed) of the entire planet are consumed by less than 5% of the population (USA) of the planet. Think about this. No matter how drug-free we think we are, we are doomed from the start as the average child born today has frightingly high levels of so many chemicals already in their bloodstreams (many which are pharmaceuticals that affect sex hormones), that the belief of just living a clean life is useless. I have a lifetime of being around young families and (for example), I do not know a single family “trying to get pregnant” who does not have fertility issues.

    This is another facet of the hormone disruption impact of the chemicals we are bathing in, and again, points to the fact that we are all victims of the same onslaught. The divisive stories our Divide And Conquer government agencies use to promote further reasons to buy their “cures” must be seen for what they are: population control. We need to remember the time when men and women were on the same team and operated off the playbook: Preserve the Relationship.

    The last point is this: the hardest road ahead is for young males. We have in the course of a few decades, virtually destroyed the path to adulthood which used to belong to the Worker. Men even more than women, define themselves through Work.

    As our values as a nation changed to exclude real industry – making things, being a Producer on an individual and small group scale, our ability to make a place in the world of adults evaporated. Large corporate interests leave no room for individual self-expression and self-reliance cannot be manufactured out of thin air – when was the last time you tried to be an entrepreneur? I have a lifetime of experience in this and it is simply NOT the same world of potentials that it was 50 years ago. So, part of what I will say here will be misunderstood: we need to stop blaming the victim and learn to separate this from the knee-jerk sense of entitlement which is the other end of the problem continuum. Ordinary people are not the cause of this but they are the only ones who can save themselves. The government prevents us from making work for ourselves.

    There are so many barriers in front of enterprising energy that it makes the marginally qualified and financially depleted young male bury themselves in drugs, alcohol, and mind-numbing electronics (which activate the exact same part of the brain that drugs activate – no difference, it’s still addiction). Addiction is the end result of our inability to deal with reality and addiction also continues our inability to deal with reality. What we have in America right now is a critical mass of the population who are technically speaking, Addicted. I am a former Substance Abuse Counselor and will say from personal experience: Systems of Addiction Resist Change and it is going to take one hell of a big impact for enough people to wake up and save themselves. When men and women save themselves in front of one another, eventually we will recognize one another, reach out for the other’s hand, and this path back into one another’s arms might save the human race in time.

    http://www.oldthinkernews.com/2014/1...-hearts-again/
    Examine all things and retain the good.

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    Default Re: Radical feminism is destroying young men.

    I think the chemical additives in foods are adding to this as well. So many young men live on fast food and Doritos.
    Also, think about how autism works. It almost seems like a very mild form that is not diagnosed has affected a much larger part of society than is commonly acknowledged.

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    Default Re: Radical feminism is destroying young men.

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Observer1964 (here)
    Quote Posted by sheme (here)
    "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be
    measured by the way in which its ..... ... animals are treated."
    Mahatma Gandhi.

    I would add "Women and" to that statement.
    I would add Man, Woman, Elderly, Sick and how and what we teach our children.

    Not that I want to say that women are treated that well in general. But I see a lot of broken men as well. Broken relations, and young men giving up on dating.
    So pls, lets not turn this into a 'only women suffer' kind of thread, I see and experience myself that it is not only the women who suffer. And to be honest, I feel lonely too, but I had several relations in wich I noted the similarities and basicly gave up on dating too. And I read also here on PA pieces of women that between the lines cry; 'I am so lonely I can cry'. So I just want some healing, not blaming. If I want to blame, then I blame the manipulators.
    You might ask Paul or one of the moderators to change the name of your thread to something like "the dehumanization of gender into slaves" and be more succinct in your opening post. I appreciate that you have clarified your intent in the subsequent posts.
    The title seems straight to the point to me.

    It's a sad trend. I wrote about this recently in the Here and Now. Will dig later on to see if I can find it. Conclusion was the same: both genders end up losing in the end.


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    I think the chemical additives in foods are adding to this as well. So many young men live on fast food and Doritos.
    Also, think about how autism works. It almost seems like a very mild form that is not diagnosed has affected a much larger part of society than is commonly acknowledged.
    My bets are on the meat and the hormones in it. Last article I read on the topic (exact source missing but search engine full of it) revealed how girls are reaching puberty much faster now than before and that there might be a correlation with increased consumption of hormones, indirectly of course, via meat. I don't know what such increased female hormones intake would do in a man.
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    Default Re: what a load of crap

    Quote Posted by dianna (here)
    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    … aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?


    Clearly, we have a long way to go...


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    I love you all.. without regards gender..

    Jake
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    Default Re: Radical feminism is destroying young men.

    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    I love you all.. without regards gender..

    Jake
    One of the wonderful things about travels out of body is that it becomes obvious that gender means almost nothing, other than a vehicle used to engage in the games. In the astral planes one can choose a gender to portray their being, sort of like an avatar that we select to continue our interactions in duality. I've seen many beings in the astral realms who do not yet know that their appearance is a choice and many simply remain in the gender that they were in their previous life. They are still learning about their power and their ability to make choices and until they learn, they will be somewhat stuck. But since time doesn't mean much it doesn't matter if they are stuck for a while. We all eventually let go of all gender identifications and attachments. It was a huge relief to me when I moved beyond the dimensions where many of us still use gender appearance as our avatar or vehicle. There are also beings who use dragons, demons, almost anything you can think of as their vehicle.

    When out of body I actually feel genderless and my many years of OBE's definitely influenced me to feel less female gender identification in body from the age of about 33 on. However, the mind and upbringing still influences me when I am living this life. I have a bias towards and a preference for men and the way they think. Most of my friends have been men, with a few exceptions for some women I find to be intelligent and aware. This is probably why I paid so much attention to every aspect of my son's life and went out of my way to make sure he would not be emasculated.

    I agree that hormones and pharmaceuticals play a large role in emasculating men, especially in the last 30 years or so as more and more crappy pharmaceuticals are added to animal feed and human food. Unless we buy organic or grow our own food for a large part of our diet, we are getting substances that affect us in many ways, probably not any good ways. Most of us don't have the time or a place to do that so we are seeing the results of these experiments over which we have little control. Some of what is done to the food supply is done through ignorance, but much of it is probably deliberate.

    I can't say that I know absolutely how much is a deliberate attempt to make men weaker and more effeminate (better slaves), but radical feminism reinforces, aids and abets, whether knowingly or unknowingly, the attempts to emasculate men. All these methods are working to weaken and make ill both men and women. Women are becoming more manly, men are becoming less manly and we're all becoming more imbalanced and sick.

    This could be regarded as totally negative, but I prefer to view it from a larger perspective. Sometimes when the negative increases greatly, as seems to be occurring now, it spurs the positive to be stronger. When the positive becomes strengthened it pulls things back into balance. I personally think this physical realm is more about balance than about having everything be wonderful, peaceful and loving. This is a matrix where we learn by having challenges. We fluctuate between the opposites until we find a balance. Leaning too far towards one side or the other is imbalanced. Until we are completely whole, which is when we are merged with Source or the One, we are in duality. Duality is about balance, not about completely eradicating positive or negative. Those of us who lean more to the positive seem to have more and more challenges from the negative polarity. This strengthens us ultimately.
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    Default Re: what a load of crap

    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote Posted by dianna (here)
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    … aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?




    Clearly, we have a long way to go...


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    Default Re: what a load of crap

    Quote Posted by dianna (here)
    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote Posted by dianna (here)
    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    … aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?




    Clearly, we have a long way to go...


    Disgusted
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    Noticing a certain problem in the relations between men and women and a possible relation to a controlsystem that made use of the same tactics is far from misogyny i think, but I thank you for youre reaction, but take it as evidence that the manipulation is working well.
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    Default Re: Radical feminism is destroying young men.

    There are enough men that would have qualified to receive such a reaction but I don't think Jake is one of them.

    It's a bit unfortunate this discussion is taking such a bitter turn. And at the same time: it doesn't have to be that way.

    Women may think that women defending men have lived on pink clouds all their lives but less is true, or so for me. I've witnessed the male in his most vile form, agressive, manipulative, lying, etc. and I've witnessed the woman in her most vile form, agressive (to such a degree it was embarrassing to have to acknowlegde that it's still a woman standing there), manipulative, lying, etc.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, but as Nancy put it very well, it's about balance, losing it and then finding it again, and losing it again and finding it back. All the while respecting (as much as you can of course, some situations are inhumane) the persons you encounter on that journey as human beings in the first place.

    Perhaps both the women and men in both camps (radical feminists & mysogynists) could use this opportunity to make polite suggestions as to what it is they miss in a man/woman and how improving that could make for better balancing. But before making any suggestions, both "camps' must of course ascertain that they themselves are willing to make a change before wanting to see changes in others.

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    OMG, I was just joking … hence, the laughing emoticons!?!

    @Jake … apologies if you took my post to be anything other than "tongue in cheek"

    (muy bad Jersey sense of humour)

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    Good joke, u got me
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    Default Re: Radical feminism is destroying young men.

    Just want to add how I am feeling and seeing part of this...

    Men and women working together, it's not going to be all women, and it's not going to be all men...

    People are going through their own healing journeys (as well as society as a whole), and some will be attracted to others and some will be (gently or violently) repelled away...it's about what fits...what works...and it's not personal...

    My own (and not just mine) personal feeling and thought on this (and everything!) is that, love is the most important thing...

    There are some of those men in my life now...and a few more will come, I can feel it...we fit, for where we are right now...

    I feel peace and faith in that...and to not get into things that my inner feeling tells me not to...

    There is a lot of healing needed and going on to do with this gender thing...the only positive way forward is to love each other and work together as a team...but because there is such huge variations in personalities, values, life experiences and priorities, this is something that is "not easy"...and I see/feel it being about it happening more and more...

    What is it that is beyond ourselves, our pains, our fears, our insecurities, our opinions...what is the message there...?...

    (This message is just for those who resonate with it in some way...)...
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