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    The empire strikes back...

    North Korea partially back online after internet collapse

    Some internet services have been restored in North Korea after an almost unprecedented internet outage, amid a cyber security row with the US.

    "Though there has been no comment from the authorities in Pyongyang, US experts reported the restoration.

    Some analysts say the country's web access was cut entirely for a time.

    Washington said it would launch a proportional response to a cyber-attack on Sony Pictures, which made a comedy about North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

    Officials would not comment on any US involvement in the current outages.

    Meanwhile, China's permanent representative to the United Nations has called for all sides to avoid an escalation of tension on the Korean Peninsula after the UN security council put the North's human rights record on its agenda."
    in my opinion ...

    could be North Korea just messing around ...

    though in order to pull such a plug ... could only have come from one wall socket ...

    the other ...

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    Default Re: It’s Official: Sony Scraps ‘The Interview’ (the most effective modern day "Hack"; with many possible implications)

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    This news is a bit old, but I didnt see it until today which suggests that Sonys internal security practices were not exactly the highest quality....

    If any of you readers are pro Infosec people, be warned this might make you cringe.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarze...oses-thousands

    Quote It Gets Worse: The Newest Sony Data Breach Exposes Thousands Of Passwords

    Excel and Word documents plainly expose thousands of computer log-in, financial, and web services passwords, including the Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and MySpace passwords for hundreds of major motion picture accounts.
    Hard not to see that as "job security" really...

    I just got back from 16 days of Cyber Defense training, we discussed this quite a bit.

    Currently most industries and even the government view "Cyber Security" as a "cost" and it gets barely any attention... the amount of successful attacks are FAR under-reported, we are basically hemorrhaging information from the US to (mostly) china and the rest of the world.
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    a Hollywood ending ...

    The Interview has a Merry Christmas



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    Default Re: It’s Official: Sony Scraps ‘The Interview’ (the most effective modern day "Hack"; with many possible implications)

    I just watched the movie (see it here: https://www.seetheinterview.com/ for $6)

    I think that this is a combination of false flag (the hacks) and opportunistic motives (releasing the movie online, in a distribution format that WILL be the future of movie releases.. possibly a brilliant move by sony, the numbers will tell)

    I'm not exactly sure of the motives on this one, obviously the whole of North Korea lost internet connectivity recently in a very strange "coincidence" (which is still on going) but the ultimate motives are still questionable in my mind.


    CNN aired interviews with two "professionals" that basically stated that "a 14 year old kid" could have taken out all of North Korea's Internet (impossible by the way...) so the propaganda has started on our end and it seems clear that they will try to put some "protective measures" in place in the future based on this situation (while sticking with the Hegelian dialect: Problem-Reaction-Solution)... This is what I'll be watching for based on the recent propaganda (err.. MSM) outlet messages.
    I wouldn't call this situation closed just yet.

    (by the way, the movie wasn't terrible, if you have seen an Seth Rogan comedies before you won't be overly surprised... I personally enjoyed it).
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    Default Re: It’s Official: Sony Scraps ‘The Interview’ (the most effective modern day "Hack"; with many possible implications)

    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I just watched the movie (see it here: https://www.seetheinterview.com/ for $6)

    I think that this is a combination of false flag (the hacks) and opportunistic motives (releasing the movie online, in a distribution format that WILL be the future of movie releases.. possibly a brilliant move by sony, the numbers will tell)

    I'm not exactly sure of the motives on this one, obviously the whole of North Korea lost internet connectivity recently in a very strange "coincidence" (which is still on going) but the ultimate motives are still questionable in my mind.

    I wouldn't call this situation closed just yet.

    (by the way, the movie wasn't terrible, if you have seen an Seth Rogan comedies before you won't be overly surprised... I personally enjoyed it).
    Good summation ...

    And yes i heard it wasn't too bad ... giggle

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    And... North Korea's Internet and Mobile Phone Network 'Paralyzed' again, after an unnamed official spokesperson said in a racist statement through North Korea's KCNA news agency on Saturday: "Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest,".
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    Quote ... but the ultimate motives are still questionable in my mind ...
    Here's one ...

    USA intelligence wants to hack NK:

    Problem --> NK caused one of the years most awaited movies at the most awaited time of the year to be rendered "unreleaseable", because "NK threatened us if we do"
    Reaction --> Masses angry at NK and are wooed into a position of feeling a need to "win" the "cyberwar"
    Solution --> US intelligence can hack the crap out of NK and no one will give a rats ass.


    Another thought I have is that Sony has secrets ... big secrets, that may or may not be able to be indicated to by the 1.3 terabytes (or whatever it was) of data that was stolen from Sony. Sony is scared ****less - which explains the extremely weird bowing to demands. I mean we don't bow to terrorists demands after they steal hundreds of women and children, but we will buckle as soon as a movie gets stolen through the internet. How's that for perspective?

    Evidence for Sony Murdering Michael Jackson (and/or other similar scenarios) just may well exist within that 1.3 terabytes of data ... just a thought The fact that Sony and MJ were at incredible odds is not a secret: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F3t2Gc0Qpo - so there was even a motive ...

    I got the torrent in 1080 last night - haven't watched it yet though but it looks enjoyable
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    Default Re: It’s Official: Sony Scraps ‘The Interview’ (the most effective modern day "Hack"; with many possible implications)

    Saw the movie last night - nothing to rave about, quite funny in places. But putting the shoe on the other foot, I doubt it would have created as much interest without all the fanfare. (Or more bluntly, if another nation had done a similar type of movie, but this time with the victim being say, Netanyoohoo or Obama???)

    It wouldn't be the first time that a relatively mediocre movie/book has done extraordinarily well simply because someone created a big fuss about it.

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    SONY’s release of “The Interview”: Setting up North Korea as Patsy for Assassinating Obama?


    Posted by Jim Fetzer on December 27, 2014

    Zionist-controlled Hollywood Goes Sinister with Israel Setting up Kim Jong Un as Future Lee Harvey Oswald


    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12...inating-obama/

    Something was wrong with this picture (both literally and figuratively): a comedy about the assassination of the young and inexperienced leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-un, who, like JFK, has his head blown apart, in this case when a missile hits the helicopter he is hanging onto! The methods differ, but the outcome is the same.

    During an interview with Press TV, I explained that this was a “colossal act of stupidity” which could have unforeseen consequences and that the cyber attack on SONY may not have come from North Korea but from inside sources because of a strenuous conflict that has arisen between SONY Japan and SONY Hollywood.

    Wayne Madsen, for example, has explained that SONY Japan was upset with SONY Hollywood because Japan is engaged in sensitive negotiations with North Korea over the release of 840 Japanese prisoners North Koren has been holding for decades and was profoundly concerned that the film might scuttle the process.

    New information identifies a source within SONY, known as “Lena”, as an insider who was in the perfect position to pull this off. And the film itself might not be an act of such stupidity if it were being used to set up North Korea to play “the patsy” for Israel when it takes advantage of these circumstances to take out Barack Obama.

    My initial reaction to the film
    My interview with Press TV would be published on Wednesday, 24 December 2014, at 7:30AM GMT. But the final question I was asked by the host (about who controls what happens in Hollywood) caused me to give this further thought: It is well known that Hollywood is under the control of studio heads who have close ties to Israel.

    (Refer to the Press TV interview: “Act of colossal stupidity”)

    An analyst says the making of a comic movie by a US entertainment company about the fictional assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was a “colossal act of stupidity,” Press TV reports.

    James Fetzer, a professor at the University of Minnesota Duluth, told Press TV that the production of the film “The Interview” by Sony Pictures was also provocative.

    “The creation of this movie from the beginning was a colossal act of stupidity and I can’t believe that Sony is going forward with its release under these circumstances,” he said, after the US company announced it would release the movie.

    He further said that Hollywood is now very much under the influence of the Zionists.

    US officials say Pyongyang targeted Sony Pictures in a hacking attack to halt the planned release of the movie. North Korea denied any involvement in the cyber attack and proposed a joint investigation with Washington.

    The hack, which has been described as the most devastating cyber attack on a US business, has paralyzed Sony Pictures and led to the cancellation of the screening of the controversial movie.

    The hackers threatened 9/11-style terrorist attacks on the US movie theaters screening “The Interview.”

    It wasn’t North Korea

    The FBI and President Obama were quick to conclude that the hacking had been done by North Korea, but they based their conclusion on feeble evidence and presumptions that have not been borne out. An excellent analysis of the flaws in their reasoning has been published in The Daily Mail (Updated: 15:04 EST, Friday 26 December 2014):

    A growing number of cybersecurity experts are coming forward to say that North Korea and their leader Kim Jong-un (above) could not have been behind the Sony hack

    Too strong: This after President Obama (above) said in a news conference on Friday that the United States would retaliate following North Korea’s actions

    The problems with the FBI’s investigation are best explained by Marc Rogers in an article he wrote for The Daily Beast. Working as both the director of security operations for DEF CON, the world’s largest hacker conference, and the principal security researcher for the world’s leading mobile security company, Cloudflare, Rogers may be one of the foremost experts when it comes to hacking.

    The first FBI claim that Rogers tears down also happens to be one the strongest that the FBI has, saying in their statement; ‘The malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed.’


    There are two problems with this interpretation, according to Harris, both of which have to do with the bureau basing its findings on assumptions as opposed to facts:

    First, while a similar malware may have been used in a previous cyber attack that North Korea has been linked to, that does not serve as definitive proof that this attack was carried out by North Korea.

    Harris then further chips away at this statement, pointing out that he and many security experts do not believe North Korea was involved in those previous incidents, whose coding the FBI is referencing to tie the attacks together.

    What’s more, the coding for one of the two malwares, Shamoon, was leaked according to Harris, and would not be difficult for any hacker to find.

    He then takes aim at the FBI conclusion that since the IP addresses used in the attack are addresses used by North Korea in previous attacks, they must be responsible.

    According to Harris, the reasoning is flawed as these addresses are used by everyone from major hackers to even small time Internet criminals to avoid detection, meaning these addresses could tie virtually anyone in the hacking community, or even someone using stolen credit cards to shop online and avoid detection, to the attack.

    Then, there is the fact that the demand by the hacking group, who call themselves the Guardians of Peace, that the The Interview not be released was not announced until weeks into the hack, and only after some members of the media had begun to perpetuate the now widely accepted story that the goal of the hack was to make sure The Interview would never be distributed by Sony.


    Hacking group motive contrived

    A convenient story
    Moreover, many skeptics have been pointing out that North Korea’s alleged motivation was discussed in publications by some media outlets before the group that was allegedly responsible for hacking SONY advanced it, which makes it an “all too convenient story”. Consider, for example, what several cyber security experts have had to say about this:

    Kurt Stammberger, a senior vice president with cyber security firm Norse, echoed many of Harris’ statements in a separate interview, and said that given the severity of the hack it had to have been an inside job.

    Stammberger, whose company decided to carry out their own independent investigation, told CBS News; “We are very confident that this was not an attack master-minded by North Korea and that insiders were key to the implementation of one of the most devastating attacks in history.”

    That’s not all either, as he says their research seems to be pointing them towards a woman named “Lena” who even claims be a member of Guardians of Peace.

    “This woman was in precisely the right position and had the deep technical background she would need to locate the specific servers that were compromised,’ revealed Stammberger.


    A deeper, darker alternative

    Under the circumstances, there are more and less sinister interpretations of what is going on here. The more innocuous would be that the hype is calculated to draw crowds into theaters for a mediocre film that otherwise would not do well. That, of course, would be par for the course in Hollywood: the greater the hype, the greater the payoff!

    Given the domination of Hollywood studios by persons with strong affinities to Israel, however, there is another, overwhelmingly more troubling possibility: that the plan is to put the patsy in place–just as Lee Harvey Oswald was positioned at the Texas School Book Depository–before taking out the President of the United States, Barack Obama.

    It turns out that the PM of Israel made a very strange reference to “the grassy knoll” of the assassination of JFK in a speech to the Kinesset, which appears to have been in retaliation for a reference to him as “chicken****” by a senior Obama administration official, which apparently was not received with pleasure by Benjamin Netanyahu:
    PM shoots down PresidentShould this be taken seriously?

    As Justin Raimondo has written, “The scandal was created, unsurprisingly, by Israel’s semi-official flack-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, a former Israeli prison guard turned journalist, whose pronouncements carry the authority of someone with impeccable connections in both Tel Aviv and Washington. Writing in The Atlantic, he reports:

    “The other day I was talking to a senior Obama administration official about the foreign leader who seems to frustrate the White House and the State Department the most. ‘The thing about Bibi is, he’s a chicken****’ this official said …”

    A more complete account of what was said also appears in the same article as follows:

    “’The good thing about Netanyahu is that he’s scared to launch wars,’ the official said, expanding the definition of what a chicken**** Israeli prime minister looks like. ‘The bad thing about him is that he won’t do anything to reach an accommodation with the Palestinians or with the Sunni Arab states. The only thing he’s interested in is protecting himself from political defeat. He’s not [Yitzhak] Rabin, he’s not [Ariel] Sharon, he’s certainly no [Menachem] Begin. He’s got no guts.’”

    Andrew Adler, the Editor of The Jewish Times, a mainstream Jewish publication, has called for the Mossad to assassinate the President of the United States, because Obama has not been sufficiently committed to the safety and security of Israel. He even writes, as the third of three options for Israel to defend itself, that Netanyahu should do this:

    “[G]ive the go-ahead for U.S-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”

    I wish I could say that there is no good reason to believe that might come to pass. But the Prime Minister of Israel is notoriously thin-skinned and surely resents being described as “chicken****” by one of the Obama administration’s highest officials. What better way to show “he has guts” than by taking him out?

    Indeed, the most important condition for actually assassinating the President of the United States has already been put in place with the creation of a most conspicuous international patsy, Kim Jong-un. I would like to believe that the Secret Service will protect Barack Obama, but they were also “on the job” in Dallas.

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    A former Marine Corps officer, Jim Fetzer has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and evolution and mentality.

    McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, he has also conducted extensive research into the assassination of JFK, the events of 9/11, and the plane crash that killed Sen. Paul Wellstone.

    The founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, his latest books include The Evolution of Intelligence (2005), The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007), Render Unto Darwin (2007), and The Place of Probability in Science (2010).

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    Default Re: It’s Official: Sony Scraps ‘The Interview’ (the most effective modern day "Hack"; with many possible implications)

    IMHO this whole thing smells a false flag.... a movie that probably would have gotten very little notice is now the talk of the day...
    sony cancels the reléase then releases it (to protect freedom of speach) or to make a lot of money... while the PTB gets to ciber attack
    north korea.... seems like a win win situation for some...

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    Question Re: It’s Official: Sony Scraps ‘The Interview’ (the most effective modern day "Hack"; with many possible implications)

    ya think ...

    Was SONY HACKED by 'LAID-OFF STAFF' ?

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    Default Re: It’s Official: Sony Scraps ‘The Interview’ (the most effective modern day "Hack"; with many possible implications)

    From the start of this "breaking news" I never believed it was a North Korea thing. Nor did I believe it was a China thing or an 'anyone else' thing. And while I do believe it was an inside job, I also do not believe it was a 'disgruntled employee(s)' thing.

    On Dec 24th, the day before the planned opening of this movie, I wrote a post regarding this story but never posted it. The reasons why I decided not to post it at the time were that I was very sick (starting about a week before and ending in pneumonia), the theories were running rampant, and I simply didn't feel like dealing with it all.

    Today it's being reported all over the MSM that some cyber security experts say North Korea didn't do it, that "Kim Jung-un has been made a fall guy", and that the FBI are being briefed on this.

    Here is an excerpt from an article written by DEFENSETECH:

    Quote Experts: North Korea May Not Have Hacked Sony After All

    “It’s clear to us, based on both forensic and other evidence we’ve collected, that unequivocally they are not responsible for orchestrating or initiating the attack on Sony,” Sam Glines, founder and chief executive officer of the cybersecurity company Norse.

    So if it wasn't North Korea or any of the others that I mentioned above, then who was it?

    Here is what I wrote on 12-24-2014, 01:34 PM:

    Quote Sony Hack Being Turned Into N. Korea False Flag By U.S.

    This Whole Entire Fiasco Was Nothing More Than A Promo Stunt For The Release Of The Movie.

    The movie is Satire and so is the Promo.

    This same type of advertising has been used many times in the past in order to raise public attention thereby raising Opening Box Office Attendance for new movie releases. And usually these types of movies turn out to be garbage.

    The problem here is, not knowing any better and always on the lookout for a news story they can wind up on, the Mainstream Media picked-up on it (with all of their so-called "expert analysts") - and then it went viral with the Alternative Media on the internet (with all their armchair "experts" and whack-job conspiracy theorists on YouTube) - and then finally the Feds got involved to use the story towards their own means (propaganda).

    Does any of this sound familiar?

    Sandy Hook anyone?

    Did They Get Your Attention? LOL!


    Quote Rogen, Franco celebrate release of 'The Interview'

    The saga of The Interview continues: Now, select theaters will screen the movie on schedule on Christmas Day.

    Meaning, you're in luck if you live in Atlanta and Austin, for starters.

    But the film's two stars, James Franco and Seth Rogen, aren't looking their cinematic gift horse in the mouth.


    Seth Rogen Tweets 10:06 AM - 23 Dec 2014:
    Quote The people have spoken! Freedom has prevailed! Sony
    didn't give up! The Interview will be shown at theaters
    willing to play it on Xmas day!


    James Franco Tweets 10:26 AM - 23 Dec 2014:
    Quote VICTORY!!!!!!!
    The PEOPLE and THE PRESIDENT have spoken!!!
    SONY to release THE INTERVIEW in theaters…
    http://instagram.com/p/w9ZA2JS9aD/
    Source: USA TODAY

    MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM SONY PICTURES!!!
    (and your .gov)


    p.s. We'll all have to wait for New Years to receive our gifts from .gov


    Are you getting the picture yet? (Pun intended ).

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