Asteroid Apophis may hit Earth in 2036, if not 2029

[vipersocks]

The date for Armageddon has been set, and it's not going to happen in 2012.

In 2004, NASA scientists announced that there was a chance that Apophis, an asteroid larger than two football fields, could smash into Earth in 2029. A few additional observations and some number-crunching later, astronomers noted that the chance of the planet-killer hitting Earth in 2029 was nearly zilch.

Now Russian scientists estimate Apophis will collide with Earth on April 13, 2036. These reports conflict on the probability of such a doomsday event, but the question remains: How scared should we be?

“Technically, they’re correct, there is a chance in 2036 [that Apophis will hit Earth]," said Donald Yeomans, head of NASA’s Near-Earth Object Program Office. However, that chance is just 1-in-250,000, Yeomans said.

NASA was quick to discount Russia's fears, however. “The situation is that in 2029, April 13, [Apophis] flies very close to the Earth, within five Earth radii, so that will be quite an event, but we’ve already ruled out the possibility of it hitting at that time,” Yeomans told Life’s Little Mysteries, Space.com's sister site.

"No one should worry. Between Mars and Jupiter, we have an asteroid belt. There's all the asteroids going near the sun, and these objects are coming near the earth all the time," Tim Hill, space manager at the Museum of Science and Industry in Tampa, told MyFoxTampaBay.

“On the other hand, if it goes through what we call a keyhole during that close Earth approach … then it will indeed be perturbed just right so that it will come back and smack Earth on April 13, 2036,” Yeomans said.

The Russian scientists are basing their predictions of a collision on the chance that the 900-foot-long (270 meters) Apophis will travel through just such a keyhole, called a gravitational keyhole, as it passes by Earth in 2029. The gravitational keyhole they mention is a precise region in space, only slightly larger than the asteroid itself, in which the effect of Earth's gravity is such that it could tweak Apophis' path.

[mmfk]

has anyone seen "From here to Andromeda" by David Sereda?

in the documentary he interviews boyd bushman, former Lockheed Martin senior research scientist. they talk about black ops, anti-gravity, etc. and to me, he seems to be very much in the know... although he reveals little...

anyway, at some point, he is (obviously) talking about Apophis and says that they are watching it closely as they expect (and he seemed very convinced of this) it to hit Earth somewhere between Siberia and Africa in 2036 (after another fly-by in 2029 between Earth and the moon, as in 2004?!)...

that's as much as I "know" about it...

any more ideas or information on this?

[mmfk]

may I again bring this up as I think it is very important und fear it might simply have slipped our attention...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Earth-in-2036

[RAKMEiSTER]

i have no fear and this thead is kinda duping the refrence to same thread about the same object, so i dont see the point of this new thread at all.
and Apophis 1st runby is not fully known path, and 2nd comeby even les., so speculate it is to the fullest. so eitherway we have more pressing issues at hand. dont we
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my attention is not there. nor elenin. not the superflufwave .

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The two main motivators for a persons actions are, Fear and Love. I choose Love.

[Lancelot]

Thanks for this post vipersocks.
Maybe HAARP could be employed to deflect the trajectory of the comet by pulsing the earths atmosphere (as long as it didnt create any earthquakes in the process. ahem)
Hopefully scientists will have evolved enough by then to have found a beneficial use for it

[Bill Ryan]

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Threads merged.

[mmfk]

thanks for merging!

I just wanted to raise attention, which obviously didn't work with my last post, and maybe find some people with more knowledge on the subject. and it seems to have worked, as at least one post was added - thank you lancelot

I certainly didn't want to contribute to the mass of double and irrelevant threads. so again, thank you for merging.

(what I can't understand however, is why sombody would want to post in a thread to state their belief that its subject is irrelevant... would be quite a lot of work for everybody to do actually and besides, make the forum quite hard to use efficiently, I guess... apart from the fact that I have stated my reasons why I think it might be important to take heed of this whistleblower's statement)

but anyway, thanks everybody for contributing.

[Nate]

Posted by mmfk (here)
I just wanted to raise attention, which obviously didn't work with my last post, and maybe find some people with more knowledge on the subject

Matthias,

The subject matter of your post excludes any substance and belongs in the invisible rant bin.

You seem to be concerned about something, but your posts are erratic. How can we help?

[The One]

Original thread from Above Top Secret.If you are copying this from another site vipersocks please always provide the link.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...F0ACiTBrk0a9-Q





Can i just say there will be never be no impacts in regards to astroids well not anymore .The ptb have the technology to destroy any asteroid coming our way they already have powerful laser and energy beams that can reach into space (my opinion)

check out the research centres below

http://www.plasmas.org/fusion-icf.htm#research

[mmfk]

quote

'Matthias,

The subject matter of your post excludes any substance and belongs in the invisible rant bin.

You seem to be concerned about something, but your posts are erratic. How can we help?'

unquote

don't get me wrong, but these are pretty tough words (but maybe it's the language "barrier" or a cultural thing)

anyway, I don't know why some people here seem to enjoy being so impolite and condescending (or is it only me being on the defense?)

I don't think I can express myself any better, sorry...

and although I'm not sure whether I can agree with The One (as I don't know so much about this matter), I am very grateful that he/she at least can state his/her opinion without the attitude (thanks for the link, by the way). and again (and for the last time), this lack of knowledge on my part was my reason for asking in the first place.

no offence intended to anyone, really

[NASA]

9 Jan 2013 - Herschel Intercepts Asteroid Apophis
ESA's Herschel space observatory made new observations of asteroid Apophis as it approached Earth this weekend.


More...

[Lifebringer]

Kool, the object has passed?

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
Kool, the object has passed?

It comes near earth every X years -- I'm not an expert on it, it is big enough to be scary and is calculated to come very close to earth in 2036. Some have been calling it the "doomsday asteroid". but it seems they got a little more accurate data on it this time.

There's another small asteroid coming in close next month, but I think it is unlikely to hit, and if it does, it may still be rather insignificant.

This is just what I've picked up here and there -- asteroids are not my expertise

Thanks for the update NASA

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
Kool, the object has passed?

From the NASA website quoted:

ESA's Herschel space observatory made new observations of asteroid Apophis as it approached Earth this weekend. The data shows the asteroid to be bigger than first estimated, and less reflective.

Catalogued as asteroid (99942) Apophis (previously 2004 MN4), it is often nicknamed 'the doomsday asteroid' in popular media, after initial observations made after its discovery in 2004 gave it a 2.7% chance of striking Earth in April 2029.

With additional data, however, an impact in 2029 was soon ruled out, although the asteroid will pass within 36 000 km of Earth's surface, closer even than the orbits of geostationary satellites.

The asteroid will return to Earth's neighbourhood again in 2036, but quite how close it will come then is uncertain, as the 2029 approach is predicted to alter its orbit substantially. Obtaining improved physical parameters for Apophis and its orbit is thus of great importance in being able to make better predictions of its future trajectory.

[sdv]

Sooner or later a big one is going to collide with Earth. My concern is that the news we get from MSM is so summarised, and perhaps misinterpreted, and without data to back up statements made, so it is very difficult to intelligently engage with what may or may not happen.

So the asteroid is bigger and more reflective than NASA first estimated (when and by whom?), so why should we trust this this new analysis of '2.74% chance of striking Earth in April 2029'?

Personally, I do not believe that NASA scientists always intentionally feed us lies to mislead us, but I do believe that we will be fed information according to our needs.

Maybe good MSM journalists should always ask for academic papers as reference?

Hugs and peace!

[Syl]

well see just lets stay sober on this one, on the other hand why not make 2036 the new 2012.. haha exiting

[PAVONIA]

As the date continues to approch which asteroid Apophis is suppose to skim past earth in such a short distance...it makes me wonder, if an impact was going to happen would the government inform us?
The fact this asteroid will fly past earth under our satellites on April 13th 2029, and then the 2nd passing of it (which seems to be the worry for scientists) that exactly 7 years later on April 13th 2036 an impact is possible. Now they're trying to rule out its impact, but with so much time between it coming past earth and flying through the rough terrian of outer space...why isnt this something of more concern? This could knock us off the face of the earth and we're suppose to trust the fact they say it'll fly past us? They say this type of asteroid is expected to impact earth once every 80,000 years....and its headed our way.
Lets also remember it was named after a greek God...Apophis means "Uncreator"


Wondering what others have thought about this.

[ghostrider]

Once again the words of Edward Meier come to pass , he predicted they would call it Apophis , and it would be on Apri 13th 2029 ...http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Bil...act_Report_150 ... scroll to line 493 ...

[ghostrider]

I believe this is the meteor they said would impact somewhere between the north sea and the black sea , causing a tear in the ocean floor and a tsunami , on Apri 13th 2029 , they say it is a prediction , a cosmic event they cannot stop , we must work together to knock it off course ...

[Sunny-side-up]

One question comes to my mind is:

Are we going to get past 2017 anyways Doh!

do we believe that we already have the means to stop it, I do!