Islam, Jesus, and ETs

[AmberButtermilk]

I know religion has been brought up several times on the board, but nothing I've found so far has really answered my specific questions. Does anyone have any information on the relationship between Islam and ETs? Or are there any good threads on here that I am failing to find? My best friend is a converted Muslim and I have been researching Islam for ten months trying to get a better understanding for his sake, only to find myself drawing seemingly obvious extraterrestrial conclusions (even before I started getting into aliens).

Where do different religions (supposedly) source from - different ET species entirely or just different races of Anunnaki?

And, pardon my being vague, what is the deal with Jesus in relationship to the Anunnaki and Pleiadians? There are too many different stories, so of course I don't expect anyone to have the definite answer, but I would really like to hear everyone's theories.

[Omni]

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)
I know religion has been brought up several times on the board, but nothing I've found so far has really answered my specific questions. Does anyone have any information on the relationship between Islam and ETs? Or are there any good threads on here that I am failing to find? My best friend is a converted Muslim and I have been researching Islam for ten months trying to get a better understanding for his sake, only to find myself drawing seemingly obvious extraterrestrial conclusions (even before I started getting into aliens).

Where do different religions (supposedly) source from - different ET species entirely or just different races of Anunnaki?

And, pardon my begin vague, what is the deal with Jesus in relationship to the Anunnaki and Pleiadians? There's too many different stories, so of course I don't expect anyone to have the definite answer, but I would really like to hear everyone's theories.

Islam just like christianity was created by dark extraterrestrials to incite division, war, death, sacrifice, and control of thought in my view.

Abrahamic religions = extraterrestrial psy ops IMO.

That is my theory...

[AmberButtermilk]

Islam just like christianity was created by dark extraterrestrials to incite division, war, death, sacrifice, and control of thought in my view.

Abrahamic religions = extraterrestrial psy ops IMO.

That is my theory...

That is what I keep coming back to, but I see all these things about Jesus being Pleiadian, and then I'm lost from there.

[AmberButtermilk]

If religion was given to us for the purpose of controlling humans, why do so many ET enthusiasts attempt to communicate with archangels? Does this mean that the archangels are evil? Or can they be deceived?

[TrumanCash]

I worked with an abductee who was contacted/abducted by the human-looking "gods"/ETs in a past life in the 1600s in what is now called Turkey. These ETs told him that he was to start a new Islamic sect and secret society. You can read the entire memory retrieval session in THE EYE OF RA (link below) in the second chapter entitled "Akarat's Abduction". This was very revealing in that he exposed exactly how these ETs created Earth's god-worshipping religions and secret societies.

These ETs can be identified by the flying serpent or serpent on the staff symbols (amongst others) and they associate themselves with the Pleiades. They appeared throughout Earth's history to establish religions and secret societies and were known by many names in different parts of the world. I uncovered a past life in Egypt wherein I had to do the bidding of them (under the names Ra, Ptaah, etc), which I cover in the first chapter "Ra and Ptaah".

TLC

[AmberButtermilk]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)
I worked with an abductee who was contacted/abducted by the human-looking "gods"/ETs in a past life in the 1600s in what is now called Turkey. These ETs told him that he was to start a new Islamic sect and secret society. You can read the entire memory retrieval session in THE EYE OF RA (link below) in the second chapter entitled "Akarat's Abduction". This was very revealing in that he exposed exactly how these ETs created Earth's god-worshipping religions and secret societies.
TLC

Thanks! I read a little bit and put it on my Kindle. I'm excited now! I tried to download your other book but unfortunately the link wasn't working for me.

[Robin]

ALL religions are manifestations from one source, and ALL are used to control the masses in different ways. There is Truth in all religions, too, but they all need to be studied together to realize the full picture of human and Earth history.

Islam is what is known as a "lunar cult," in that a lot of its symbols, traditions, and rituals are based off of feminine energy. Christianity is what is known as a "solar cult," because it centers around masculine energy dominating. Judiasm is what is known as a "steller cult," which is a combination of the two, more or less. This is a very brief outline, and all of these are controlled by what is known as the "Saturn cult."

Saturn is associated with Satanism, and is the home base of the beings that are controlling our reality. Those beings are from Alpha Draconis, and the rings of Saturn broadcast a signal to the moon, which reflects it back to Earth keeping us in a field of illusory reality.

Mecca is the center of Muslim worship, and it has a large black cube in the center. This cube is a Satanic symbol, and is a representation of Saturn. Little do all the Muslims that go there to prey know, but they are worshiping Satanism collectively and individually. In addition, they are bowing down in subservience, and they are all directing their energy to one source, which is harvested by the Dracos.

Here are some links to look into:

http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot...-backs-to.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nspiracy37.htm

By Christianity and Islam being at constant war at one another, the global controllers are symbolically pitting the sacred masculine and sacred feminine against one another. It is a constant chess game of separating the right brain from the left brain from the individual and the collective.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=txcTqEcLqnQ

[ghostrider]

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)
I know religion has been brought up several times on the board, but nothing I've found so far has really answered my specific questions. Does anyone have any information on the relationship between Islam and ETs? Or are there any good threads on here that I am failing to find? My best friend is a converted Muslim and I have been researching Islam for ten months trying to get a better understanding for his sake, only to find myself drawing seemingly obvious extraterrestrial conclusions (even before I started getting into aliens).

Where do different religions (supposedly) source from - different ET species entirely or just different races of Anunnaki?

And, pardon my being vague, what is the deal with Jesus in relationship to the Anunnaki and Pleiadians? There are too many different stories, so of course I don't expect anyone to have the definite answer, but I would really like to hear everyone's theories.

the connection is ET's are taught by the spirit form of Nokodemjon , the first prophet/teacher , who incarnates in other personalities as Enoch , Isaiah , Elijah , Jeremiah , Immanuel , Muhammad , and Beam ... the same spiritual teacher from the beginning of time always teaches humans how to be , live , and think ... just like Immanuel(aka Jesus) Muhammad's teachings were corrupted by man and his religion creating cults bringing death instead of wisdom and peace ... the Et's are involved when and where the prophet incarnates as the mission has been going on for over 12 billion years ... they taught Immanuel as well as Muhammad the writings are always corrupted until the year 1995 , with the computer age , knowledge is now preserved for all time without corruptions ... the spirit form is older than old , he is on his second set of incarnations , now a mere 9 billion years old ... the first set he was in material body incarnating for 59 million years then became half spirit half material , and merged back with creation as a pure spirit form , the people degenerated and lost the laws and recommendations of creation , so Nokodemjon created a new body and ordained himself a new set of incarnations to bring his people back to the laws and recommendations of creation through the prophets of Enoch-Isaiah-Elijah-Jeremiah-Immanuel-Muhammad-Beam ... Billy Edward Albert Meier ... the story is bigger than you know ...

[birddog]

Hi Amber,

Obviously, Christianity started with Jesus. After His crucifixion, his followers continued to worship in the way Jesus taught them. Later, when formal religion appeared, such as the Church of England, and Catholicism, control became the issue.

[Agape]

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)
I know religion has been brought up several times on the board, but nothing I've found so far has really answered my specific questions. Does anyone have any information on the relationship between Islam and ETs? Or are there any good threads on here that I am failing to find? My best friend is a converted Muslim and I have been researching Islam for ten months trying to get a better understanding for his sake, only to find myself drawing seemingly obvious extraterrestrial conclusions (even before I started getting into aliens).

Where do different religions (supposedly) source from - different ET species entirely or just different races of Anunnaki?

And, pardon my being vague, what is the deal with Jesus in relationship to the Anunnaki and Pleiadians? There are too many different stories, so of course I don't expect anyone to have the definite answer, but I would really like to hear everyone's theories.

There is ET contact behind all main ( and perhaps many lesser ) religions in my best opinion , that's how it 'really' occurs very rarely, say once upon a long time and yet ...

majority of people may never recognise or realise what's happened or that it happened .

But there's always a wholesome effect on the society that includes religious and scientific visions,
dramatic evolution of thought and society in some / many cases . Those next generations usually try to preserve what they've learned , more or less successfully .

Now , different languages give different names to 'ET visitors' . If you use the term 'star people' , 'devatas' ( the shining ones ) , anu-naki or transcendental Bodhisattvas , these are denominations that meant roughly the same to those people to what they mean to you today .

They're capable of speaking mostly any human language , and they have languages of their own . Some speak purely telepathically . Most do not call themselves anything even close to 'Pleiarens' except for Pleirens . It means 'Earthlings' in fact . Plearea means planet in their language .

They're not that far away in evolution from humans . I consider them possible off shot of faraway , more humane civilisation where we both come from.

Their planet is much greener though as they're devoted ecologists . And they can be weirdos of their own provenance , just as humans can .
But they're also extremely beautiful , gentle and shy souls .

I don't have much to do with these people but know they exist and are also spiritual beings with great hearts .

There are many other curious star-people out there ..

And yes i think they're also behind planting some religious ideas to human society , in order to install order ...

there's subtle deception involved .

That's why mankind desperately needs fact-of-fact information on ETs , to know what are we really dealing with .

[birddog]

Omni wrote...

" Islam just like christianity was created by dark extraterrestrials to incite division, war, death, sacrifice, and control of thought in my view.
Abrahamic religions = extraterrestrial psy ops IMO."

Christianity started with Christ. He is not a dark ET. He is of the Light. What followed beyond His time on Earth, resulted formal religion, where control was deadly.
People were killed by the Church of England, and the Catholic church, if they didn't follow the religion to the letter.

Jesus was not a psy op, but what followed Him which resulted in a formal religion might have been? I don't know. It certainly was not of the light, these new formal religions, since many people were put to death. But this is not what Christianity is. This is not what Jesus taught. Christianity is a form of spirituality, where one can go into the closet and pray, or pray in a group. It certainly was not controlling.

[birddog]

Amber wrote...."Does this mean that the archangels are evil?" No, archangels are good and kind, and protective. People do seek their help often.
The question can people be deceived? Yes, but if one is trying to connect with an archangel, and the help is good and kind, and protective, does it
sound deceiving? No.

[Omni]

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)

Islam just like christianity was created by dark extraterrestrials to incite division, war, death, sacrifice, and control of thought in my view.

Abrahamic religions = extraterrestrial psy ops IMO.

That is my theory...

That is what I keep coming back to, but I see all these things about Jesus being Pleiadian, and then I'm lost from there.

Any very old soul is going to be a starseed in my view. "Pleiadians" could be any number of races it seems to me... If Jesus(that wasn't his name) existed, if he was indeed as masterful as people say, I'd think he was indeed a starseed of some sort. Probably an elder ET race.

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)
If religion was given to us for the purpose of controlling humans, why do so many ET enthusiasts attempt to communicate with archangels? Does this mean that the archangels are evil? Or can they be deceived?

I wrote an article on Archangels here: http://omnisense.blogspot.com/2014/1...elepathic.html

Essentially I think Archangels do not exist. At least not biblical ones. One could term advanced ETs as Archangels but I don't think it fits... Angels do not have a hierarchy. Archons use religious structures of reality to influence at times. So their actions also corroborate the religion they created when they use a guise such as Archangels.

Posted by birddog (here)
Omni wrote...

" Islam just like christianity was created by dark extraterrestrials to incite division, war, death, sacrifice, and control of thought in my view.
Abrahamic religions = extraterrestrial psy ops IMO."

Christianity started with Christ. He is not a dark ET. He is of the Light. What followed beyond His time on Earth, resulted formal religion, where control was deadly.
People were killed by the Church of England, and the Catholic church, if they didn't follow the religion to the letter.

Christianity did not start with "Christ". It started after he died by a bunch of corrupted old bigoted men seeking to control their society. I doubt "Christ" would be a 'christian'. I do not see it as his religion. He didn't attempt to start such a thing. I think it is inaccurate to say christianity started with Jesus, it didn't.

They couldn't even get his name right. Do you really think they got his teachings right?

Jesus was not a psy op, but what followed Him which resulted in a formal religion might have been? I don't know. It certainly was not of the light, these new formal religions, since many people were put to death. But this is not what Christianity is. This is not what Jesus taught. Christianity is a form of spirituality, where one can go into the closet and pray, or pray in a group. It certainly was not controlling.

You totally omit the part of priests being gods hand to the public and the brainwashing that takes place from birth in most christian families.

If you do not think christianity is a method of control(in part), I do not think you are in alignment with truth to be honest.. To think God wrote a book, and no other book is divine, and all information one should know is in one book, is a form of thought control. There are many forms of control through christianity. Christianity has been used as a weapon against the human spirit and truth for millennia. It has only just recently gotten better...

[Shezbeth]

Let's not forget that whole 'Constantine' debacle,....

I find a (not) fine line between the 'Jesus' of Christianity, and the individual(s) from whom the story of Jesus was amalgamated. The Jesus of Christianity can be very effectively and scholastically reviewed here:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RYgyXFqkZyA

Having said, IMO the individual(s) from whom the story of Jesus was derived (hereafter referred to by me as The Dude(s)) was an alchemist and a metaphysician. I really can't say whether (s)he (recognize, there have been incredible females as well, and a patriarchal hierarchy simply needs to omit one consonant - in english anyway - to skew the story in their favor!) (s)he was of ET origins,... but I certainly wouldn't rule it out!

Have people ascended to masterful levels as depicted in Jesus' story? Absolutely IMO,... but as Omni has pointed out; the names have been changed to protect the ignorant and the powerful alike, the timeline and locations have likewise been distorted, and the underlying message and metaphor - while still partially intact - is like trying to assemble a 1000-piece puzzle with only 60 or so pieces.

[Omni]

Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
Saturn is associated with Satanism, and is the home base of the beings that are controlling our reality.

Saturn is a common place for ETs to hang out due to it's beauty. Both sides have bases in that area from what I've been conveyed.

Those beings are from Alpha Draconis, and the rings of Saturn broadcast a signal to the moon, which reflects it back to Earth keeping us in a field of illusory reality.

Sam... Usually your posts are great and down to earth but this part I feel is malarky. So the rings of Saturn and the moon are evil constructs keeping humanity stuck in a synthetic matrix? It isn't the millennia of thought control via belief systems, or technological mind control? It isn't our tainted genetics? Our dogmas, biases, religions, scientism, left brained, right brained, and imbalanced society has many mechanics that are keeping us in the synthetic matrix of thought IMO. But thinking it comes from Saturn's rings is to taint a beautiful part of our solar system, and I think goes along the lines of this comment by me:

Posted by My Blog
Firstly, I'd like to add the foreshadowing that negative extraterrestrial formulated psy ops often have a flavor of making reality seem undesirable. Black governments around the world(mainly USA) have inherited many methods of tainting information from dark ETs. ....

Source: http://omnisense.blogspot.com/2014/1...ter-death.html

Why would the rings of Saturn cause any mechanics to mind control us? Are you saying they are not rock and are some sort of technological apparatus? I am trying to figure out how you have come to the conclusion that Saturn's rings somehow create a synthetic matrix of thought.

The synthetic matrix that is set up in my eyes is perception based. It isn't some cosmic energy field trapping souls in physicality or anything like that IMO. Many other solar systems have planets with rings, it happens when a moon gets destroyed or moons collide typically(from what I understand). I'm failing to see the mechanics needed to sustain a synthetic matrix from a planet's rings and a moon... Seems much more likely the Archons(both human and ET) have interdimensional satellites with heavy electromagnetic capability(mind control, telepathy, conscious energy etc) flying around, not the entire moon and Saturn doing such.

I can almost guarantee the source of these ideas... And it would be of no surprise to see cults believing this stuff. I'd hesitate before accepting any occultists reality of how the world is controlled unless they get into real mechanics. I've never seen any come close to the truth. Occultists are probably some of the more mind controlled folk in the world IMO...

I'm curious what evidence lead you to these conclusions Sam? I'd be willing to hear out your point of view with an open mind. I hope it wasn't Mark Passio. He always seems so down to earth and brilliant. I will have to watch that video...

[Lysaur]

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)
If religion was given to us for the purpose of controlling humans, why do so many ET enthusiasts attempt to communicate with archangels? Does this mean that the archangels are evil? Or can they be deceived?

A lot of the channelers and contactees are fed false stories to spread disinformation, but it's not all lies, usually it's a couple lies mixed with a bunch of truth. You never know who you could be talking to, could be A.I., an alien, a demon, a hybrid, a human, who knows. Archangel might mean Archon-Angel. The Archons were the negative interdimensional aliens that infect the minds of humans to corrupt them, live through, them destroy them, and feed on their soul energy literally. The Gnostics preserved the true teachings of the embodied Christ, I don't think his real name was Jesus.

[Lysaur]

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)
I know religion has been brought up several times on the board, but nothing I've found so far has really answered my specific questions. Does anyone have any information on the relationship between Islam and ETs? Or are there any good threads on here that I am failing to find? My best friend is a converted Muslim and I have been researching Islam for ten months trying to get a better understanding for his sake, only to find myself drawing seemingly obvious extraterrestrial conclusions (even before I started getting into aliens).

Where do different religions (supposedly) source from - different ET species entirely or just different races of Anunnaki?

And, pardon my being vague, what is the deal with Jesus in relationship to the Anunnaki and Pleiadians? There are too many different stories, so of course I don't expect anyone to have the definite answer, but I would really like to hear everyone's theories.

TBH IDK about Islam... but I know the foundation of our world, is that souls incarnate here, and that aliens, both physical and interdimensional manipulate humans to use them as slaves and food...both physically and etherically. We are farmed for energy by the negative ones. But there are good groups helping us, inspiring us, defending us, so we can escape the mental slavery we've been put under.

Most religions have a lot of good spiritual advice, like love, use your brain, and lots of profound teachings. But a lot of it is corrupted. People pray to entities like Amen-Ra and that entity gets the energy. Religions are often twisted to trick people into feeling like slaves to the false gods pretending to be gods. But we have that godspark inside us. The evil beings don't want us to develop that, because they depend on us.

I think most secret societies are based heavily on ET interaction and teachings, both good and bad.

I recommend Truman Cash's book so you can see how ETs pose as false Gods and demand worship and slavery.

Montalk.net is awesome too, especially his articles on aliens. The Gnosis series he did is my favourite.

[WhiteLove]

These are my views about some of this. Instead of using "the elite", I use "you and a set of friends", so that you can imagine the situation from the elite's point of view and how it all progressed.

Imagine a society where you and a set of friends are kings and queens and have perfect control of everything and everyone on pretty much a whole continent. Imagine how powerful and chosen by creation that would make you feel - what you say, do and decide has great importance in this life, hence you see yourself as a God who have been given extraordinary powers in the world to rule and dictate how creation should progress - you decide how the life of others will be lived. Then comes a man namned Jesus, who is one with God, sees the suffering in the slavery and bondage caused by the ruling - where the kings/elite have taken the role of determining what reality is and must be about - follow your orders, worship you the God, pray to your statues. Everything this man says is true - that we are all one with the true God, God loves us unconditionally - and you are going nuts, you become afraid because your whole identity is challenged and ripped apart, left is just void and fear. At that point the ego grips you and your friends, you decide you collectively need to fight this threat, this force whatever it is. So you do everything necessary, you create false rumors, falsify the message, kill people you feel are not on your side, create traps and finally put Jesus on the cross. Then you do everything to wipe out all the traces of this man for generations to come, so that whatever is left is a false illusion that leads the people back to you.

In other words, religions are inter-mingled in a very complex way, where you have some factions that know about the truth and want to represent that part of it, the elite wants to take advantage of all of the false stuff in these messages, especially the cross over points where the elite has reached some degree of conflict between the false messages they've created and take advantage of that to make the people kill each other, become confused and lost. That people, that reality is easier to control. So it's a mixed bag which is a result of the elite's work of hiding the truth and maintaining dominance over people. Generations after generations the hiding of the truth has become overwhelming and it has caused many wars and a lot of suffering over centuries, the world is still to this day not a world of peace. And that's what we all need to change, whatever the religions of others may be, we need to come together in peace. And how that is done is through unconditional love. The way Jesus described that kind of love was like this: "Love others so unconditionally that not even your life is in the way of that love". This was the message when Jesus died on the cross.

[Ahnung-quay]

I tend to feel that the astrotheology people have it right.

The angels are really angles (of the starry sky) and Jesus the Son is the sun. The ancient solar deity was worshiped long before Yeshua lived. The solar god always dies on the galactic cross and it is also an annual event at the time of the winter solstice.

Religion is based on ancient science. The essential science of it makes logical sense. Understanding the science gives humans the chance to be what they are; co-creators.

What a great way to subvert the truth; corrupting science into belief systems that hold the natural human beings down and keeps them from attaining their highest abilities.

Did ET have a hand in it? Possibly; most probably. Does it make a difference? I don't think so. We are more powerful than we know. Time to come together people.

Mitakye Oyasin.

[ulli]

Posted by Ahnung-quay (here)
I tend to feel that the astrotheology people have it right.

The angels are really angles (of the starry sky) and Jesus the Son is the sun. The ancient solar deity was worshiped long before Yeshua lived. The solar god always dies on the galactic cross and it is also an annual event at the time of the winter solstice.

Religion is based on ancient science. The essential science of it makes logical sense. Understanding the science gives humans the chance to be what they are; co-creators.

What a great way to subvert the truth; corrupting science into belief systems that hold the natural human beings down and keeps them from attaining their highest abilities.

Did ET have a hand in it? Possibly; most probably. Does it make a difference? I don't think so. We are more powerful than we know. Time to come together people.

Mitakye Oyasin.

All interpretations are valid which lead an individual to a state of clarity. As an astrologer with Gurdjieff knowledge I see the Son= the Sun a bit like you do.
Let me explain two things here, to clarify further. Angles create energetic flows. As light enters a lens it can be harnessed, and diffused, or focused into laser-like beams.

And _angels_ can use planetary angles to move between dimensions, but so can dark energies.
The individual has the final say which side to run with.

The right (90') angles between planets can create turbulence and therefore potential for destruction,
whereas 120 ' angles, which are called trines, allow for renewal and growth. They are the ones which restore.

This field becomes ever more complex, with angles like 51 1/2 degrees, Points between the seven-pointed star,
or 72 degrees, the points between a pentacle.

Then the sun=son image. Gurdjieff spoke of the Ray of creation which emanates from the highest source.
Here the moons are lower downhill from the earths, or planets, and the suns (stars) are the next level uphill,
and after the level of suns is the galactic level, and then families of worlds, and finally Source Itself.
And with each level away from source there are more and more oppressive laws, with the moons being the most restrictive environment
Nature exists to turn moons into the next level of planets, so if one follows nature,
one's soul energies move downwards to feed the moons' emerging biospheres.

If one makes conscious effort to escape from the laws which govern nature, one might escape from the prison of earth and rise up to the level of the sun. So the SON brought teachings which can help a person with this escape. Yet, nature, human nature, intervened with confusing interpretations, and and again created mind-dumbing rituals to keep the trap door closed.
'Let him that has eyes, see'.