Charlie Hebdo shooting: eleven dead at Paris offices of satirical magazine

[Hervé]

Videos show Paris gunmen were calm as they executed police officer, fled scene

By Mitchell Prothero
McClatchy Foreign StaffJanuary 7, 2015

People hold signs reading “I am Charlie” in French during a silent gathering honoring victims of the Jan. 7 attack on the offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo on Jan. 7, 2015 at the “Place du Nombre D’or” in Bordeaux, France. JEAN MICHEL MART — TNS

IRBIL, Iraq — The gunmen who attacked the Paris editorial offices of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday appeared to be focused professionals who’d carefully prepared the assault.

Video showing two of the assailants suggests they were well trained, striking their target during its weekly editorial meeting, when most of the publication’s journalists would be gathered in one place.

Other evidence suggests they could be linked to a top French al Qaida operative, David Drugeon, who’s been the target at least twice of U.S. airstrikes in Syria over the last four months.

Drugeon, who many experts believe was a French intelligence asset before defecting to al Qaida, is alleged to have masterminded a 2012 “lone wolf” attack on French soldiers and Jewish targets in the southern French city of Toulouse. That attack killed seven people before the perpetrator, a French citizen named Mohammed Merah, who French intelligence believes had been trained by Drugeon, was killed by a police sniper after a long, violent standoff with security forces.

Witnesses inside the magazine’s offices told the French newspaper L’Humanité that both attackers spoke perfect French and claimed to be members of al Qaida.

Wednesday’s attack killed at least 10 journalists and two policemen, who’d apparently been assigned to guard the magazine because of previous threats made against the publication, including a firebombing in 2011.

Deadly Charlie Hebdo attack caught in video (HD)

NY Daily News

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Full article: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/01/0...117/534/&ihp=0

In any case, the end result is:

Charlie Hebdo, France -------------------------------- Donbass, Ukraine

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Videos show Paris gunmen were calm as they executed police officer, fled scene

Fake execution

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rfBMYpwuJxE

Real rifle shot at close range might look like this (if you have the stomach to watch). A lot of blood.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=092_1385087034

This video is an assembly of at least two different scenes in time

[Hervé]

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
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Fake execution
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Naste, no matter how much weight is given that video, real people are real dead!

That means a REAL False Flag with horrific reality for a REAL outcome expected; as with any False Flag!

See post #38!

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
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Fake execution
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Naste, no matter how much weight is given that video, real people are real dead!

That means a REAL False Flag with horrific reality for a REAL outcome expected; as with any False Flag!

See post #38!

I understand your sadness. I'm not happy to post these things.

We should just shut up about these lies that help perpetuate these genocides?



Al CIA Qaeda from Yemen? Lies perpetuate deaths and Yemen is the next

[Roisin]

So if this is yet another false flag event to bring us into World War 3, what should we be doing to prepare for that?

[Slorri]

Posted by Roisin (here)
So if this is yet another false flag event to bring us into World War 3, what should we be doing to prepare for that?

It might be an idea to gently mention this to people around us. Knowledge to help ease any psychosis.

[Matisse]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
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Fake execution
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Naste, no matter how much weight is given that video, real people are real dead!

That means a REAL False Flag with horrific reality for a REAL outcome expected; as with any False Flag!

See post #38!

I agree with Hervé, don,t confuse false flag with hoax, these people, many of them activists for many years are dead, have passed on, (may they rest in peace...) it is very very sad....

So who did this? The CIA, Mossad, ISIL, Al Quaeda? As the ISIL and Al Qaeda are both heavily infiltrated, funded, and manipulated by both the CIA and Mossad i would say it all boils down to the same thing... FALSE FLAG...

[Matisse]

Posted by Roisin (here)
So if this is yet another false flag event to bring us into World War 3, what should we be doing to prepare for that?

This is the same war that started on 9-11.... all for oil... restricting freedoms...destabilizing...dividing... etc... etc...

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by Matisse (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
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Fake execution
[...]

Naste, no matter how much weight is given that video, real people are real dead!

That means a REAL False Flag with horrific reality for a REAL outcome expected; as with any False Flag!

See post #38!

I agree with Hervé, don,t confuse false flag with hoax, these people, many of them activists for many years are dead, have passed on, (may they rest in peace...) it is very very sad....

So who did this? The CIA, Mossad, ISIL, Al Quaeda? As the ISIL and Al Qaeda are both heavily infiltrated, funded, and manipulated by both the CIA and Mossad i would say it all boils down to the same thing... FALSE FLAG...

I would like to explain my point of view.

I am afraid that I will be misunderstood in the heat of the moment but I'll take the risk.

Google / images

Ukraine Victims (thousands of images of dead and wounded).

Palestinian Victims (thousands of images of dead and wounded)

Charlie Hebdo Victims

Has no picture. No one killed or injured image. Neither the 'terrorists'. Only the police appear, but we know that was not run in front of the camera and that was alive when rescued (despite several rifle shots showed no trace of blood, which is very suspicious in my understanding / moreover I have not doubt that it was a staged video). It also has the 'bloody' room where the alleged massacre took place.

No pic of the alleged victims of the attack, victims of the shootings today in the hunt for terrorists or terrorist killed today.

Despite the proximity of the center of Paris, the streets near the attack were empty. The attack occurred on the first day of "Soldes" (winter season settlement of Christmas balances), characterized by the frenzy of tourists, great handling car. The Citroën terrorist was standing in the street. Particularly in these days of "Soldes" you can not stand without, in seconds, formed a line of cars;

There are two unique videos of the 'action'. No one else was able to whip out a cell phone and record what was happening around them. A quiet street and motionless. And I'm pretty sure that the video is fake.

I would have to deny my sanity if I deny what I know.

All we have are statements of media and authorities.

The same media and authorities that do not get tired of lying and omit the truth.

I'm not saying that no deaths.

I am saying that I was not able to find any images of victims and terrorists killed or wounded throughout this case and so I am very suspicious.

I do not believe anything that comes from the official media and much less from that of the 'authorities'.

While (if) do not appear credible images, for me it is 'hear to believe.'

[SilentFeathers]

These types of mind games are escalating in "unbelievable" ways....

[Roisin]

Very interesting Naste and thanks for taking the time to type all of that out. As it is now, I just don't have the stomach for this anymore as these hostage/lone or few gunmen incidents are making me more and more nauseous every time a new incident occurs. Therefore it's been very hard for me to read anything about what just happened in France but I did skim over an article on the bio of those two brothers and it just boggles the mind that they were free to go anywhere they wanted even though they are known terrorists who spent a combo of 12 years in prison who were also known to have local affiliations with someone who was known to have terrorist org. connections at a mosque. I'm just rapping off things off the top of my head here but just like that lone gunman in the Sydney Siege who also was a known and extremely vocal supporter of Islamic terrorists orgs who also was free to come and go anywhere he wanted, now we have 2 others who were just like him who also ended up taking hostages and so on.... I find this very suspicious considering all of those gov't orgs. and police departments out there that should have been keeping a close eye on those individuals. So something is really off here.... and just taking an educated guess at this but call me paranoid but wondering how safe the avg. person is out there when people like that are on the loose and I can't help thinking that it's that way because that's the way they want it.

[Sophocles]

Raid on hostage taker in Paris:

"At 0:30 the terrorist runs toward the special forces and goes down in a hail of bullets.
No hostage died during the raid , they were killed when the terrorist entered the building and took it over."

Link: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by Sophocles (here)
Raid on hostage taker in Paris:

"At 0:30 the terrorist runs toward the special forces and goes down in a hail of bullets.
No hostage died during the raid , they were killed when the terrorist entered the building and took it over."

Link: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

Thank you.
I had not seen, despite having searched enough. I'm sorry, regardless of who they are.

I found this link below while searching
http://noticias.uol.com.br/internaci...ca-frances.htm

The second video in the link.

This is a warning message.

Insane. The matrix robcops.

The line between being or not being considered a terrorist is getting thinner every day.

Anyway this is an attack on our willingness to seek truth and love.

[Carmody]

The question now, is ..what else was going on, under cover of the distraction --- that this event provided?

These sorts of folks never waste a good opportunity.

[Roisin]

Hmmm? Has anyone checked to see if the Mona Lisa is still at the Louvre? [only joking]

[Sophocles]

The guy in this video (titled; "URGENT! ANOTHER PARIS ATTACK Near Eiffal Tower - GLADIO 2015") is saying (after 3.00) that the older brother, Said, met with Anwar al Awlaki in 2011, and that Awlaki was an inside man, being at the white house and the Pentagon post 9/11.

And that it doesn`t have to be fake to be a false flag, it just has to be orchestrated (or/and by using unknown patsies).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=T93OiHcb4Wo

I don`t have any knowledge regarding the alledged Awlaki connection, but I do think the guy has a (obviously) point about the false flag part.

[Olam]

Posted by Roisin (here)
So if this is yet another false flag event to bring us into World War 3, what should we be doing to prepare for that?

You know, the world is not like it used to be, I don't see a 3rd world war ever just because most of the world population won't join in to go fight.
Now if they force me to go, then they will have a fight, but I sure won't enlist to go kill...

[Sophocles]

"French President Francois Hollande met with President Vladimir Putin during an impromptu visit to Moscow on Saturday (dec 6 2014), a rare display of goodwill as tensions remain high over the ongoing conflict in east Ukraine and France's decision to suspend the delivery of two warships to Moscow.

The French leader's unexpected stopover in Moscow, as he traveled from neighboring Kazakhstan back to Paris, makes him the only head of state from a major Western power to visit Russia since it annexed Ukraine's Crimea peninsula in March."

Link: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...ow/512673.html

[araucaria]

A few comments here on the possible types of event we are dealing with here.

The difference between a hoax and a false flag, and other operations as well, is to do with the degree of fiction or non-reality injected into a real-life situation. In other words, the actual reality and the perceived reality diverge. A false flag attack is mostly for real: the only fictional aspect is the identity of the behind-the-scenes perpetrators. The patsy may or may not pull the trigger: Oswald did not, Jack Ruby did. When he does so willingly and knowingly, he becomes a hitman. Jihadist killers are probably hitmen rather than total fall guys.

You also have the intermediate operation where agents provocateurs, spies or infiltrators will nudge a situation, e.g. civil unrest, into discrediting a legitimate community.
A hoax is when everything is unreal, a stage event from start to finish, such as Sandy Hook seems to have been. No one actually gets hurt, there are no real-life people involved at all, just actors playing a role.

Why everything is seen these days by the alternative media at least as a false flag is because there is always a degree of divergence between the perceived reality and the actual reality. This is entirely normal because none of us has all the info; there is always a backstory we need to catch up on. It happens on every level: a family member may do something odd that only becomes understandable in light of some past experience that happened to them that you only get to hear about later. In a sense, they are acting not so much on their own account as on someone else’s, as their hitman or fall guy. If you don’t want them to do it again, your new understanding of where they are coming from may not help very much: they may be repeating a pattern of misbehavior that has been going on for generations, so your only point of leverage is on the present situation.

Confronting total unreality with the true reality of the moment is the point of the cartoon I posted of the cartoonist erasing his drawing of a terrorist.

I posted another example of this a while back: a radio play by Claude Ollier aired in 1969, ‘L’Attentat en Direct’ (The Assassination Live), which I summarized as follows here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post895061

http://www.franceculture.fr/emission...ect-2014-05-10

After getting a tip-off at a café, a dynamic new radio station has its reporter broadcasting live from an unlikely spot along the route taken by the presidential motorcade. From his perfect vantage point, he sees the assassin firing, then throwing his gun into the river. He dashes off in chase, and for a good while follows the guy away from the city centre, where he stops at a bar, watches a movie, goes to a church where he makes his confession (!), comes out and heads back into town. Meanwhile the cops have arrested a suspect and found a gun. What we hear is the radio controllers discussing the matter, with the reporter phoning in every now and again; we also hear a voiceover with commercials for this and that product. Eventually, the reporter’s man’s path crosses the official suspect’s, and he shoots him; so the assassin will get off with killing just the patsy instead of killing the president. The question then is, Who gave the reporter the precious tip-off? Answer, his boss. The entire thing was a publicity stunt to gain an audience for this new station, with more to follow. The last commercial is for a drink, ‘the killer’s drink’.

Pretty amazing, don’t you think – a commentary on the Kennedy assassination with the hindsight of Sandy Hook, yet dating from the sixties. It has the flavor of Orson Welles’ ‘War of the Worlds’ production, only instead of lending credence to the idea that a fiction is for real, it says that what we take for real is just a fiction. The reality is that you are listening to a radio play, and naturally the radio station is the sole perpetrator from start to finish. The fiction may be ‘live’, but the live is a fiction and the actual reality is in playback mode: it is all on edited tape. Similarly, the JFK assassination was little more than a televised show, hence we have witnesses numbering close to zero, and no perpetrators. One day, when we stop the playbacks, we go live with ‘something completely different’, which can be whatever we like, as Monty Python tried to show. Novelty as experiment, entertainment, research: it is all of these things and much more.

Paradoxically, the only effective response (I’m not going to be very popular for saying this) is when enough people start realizing it is time to ‘move along, nothing to see here’, either in the way that you brush down a small child that has had a close shave and keep the panic and relief to yourself, or out of boredom as portrayed in the cartoon below:

[naste.de.lumina]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1JuOH0k_lkg

Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...oping-find-job