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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    According to Charlie Hebdo Journalist, one of the attackers had BLUE EYES




    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Another stupid blunder (from the video audio):

    "Non, c'est bon chef!"

    The shooters are supposed to be two siblings/brothers... right?

    For those of you who have siblings, have you ever called them "chef"/boss? or, rather, their first name or nickname?

    So... these shooters ain't no sibling brothers... only brothers at arms! (you heard/read it here first)

    According to some other speculations, the real blood brothers/siblings were already stone cold dead (inferred from the "forgotten" ID card) and put on ice, ready to be served to the coroner...
    So, indeed, the shooting commando wasn't constituted of the Kouachi siblings (pictured above)...

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    Going Underground: Press freedom after Charlie Hebdo massacre



    Published on 10 Jan 2015


    Afshin Rattansi goes underground on press freedom in the wake of the Paris terror
    attacks on the offices of Charlie Hebdo. Dickie Arbiter, former press secretary to the
    Queen, dismisses the allegations that Prince Andrew had sex with an underage girl
    as ‘nonsense’ and says the problem is he ‘hasn’t been very good at picking his friends.’
    We look at PMQs, with MPs demanding reasons why the Chilcot inquiry has not been
    published, and Cameron alleging Miliband claimed he wanted to ‘weaponise’ the NHS.
    And the MHRA regulatory body has received nearly 100,000 reports of faulty medical
    equipment – linked to nearly 25,000 deaths and injuries – with them warning the
    real figure could be five times higher.

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    France is suffering a wave of hate attacks against Muslims in the wake of last week's Islamic extremist
    attacks in and around Paris. Monitors of Islamophobia are reporting scores of incidents.

    RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air
    Just what "they" wanted all along ...

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    The best thing to do is to get some of that blood and do a DNA match test. Not just the reality of the blood missing and the bleeding out not happening in the first place, but the blood being faked, as the DNA does not match.

    Get them lying from both sides.

    A two-for-one deal.

    better yet, break a piece of the cement block off, with the blood on it, and tape it being done. then one is in possession of a match piece, from the cement block, like a fingerprint.

    Then watch them remove the pavement. That is what my suspicion is of what they would do.

    An even stronger proof. Force them into a total of three acts, in order to hold the lie.
    This is exactly what I was thinking this morning.
    It has to be done fast.
    With a huissier, for authentification.
    Who can get this organised and done?
    Who's on Paris?
    Who has links? Hervé, Araucaria, anybody else?
    Now that this given potential has been aired, I expect them to acid wash the given pavement stones, within the next 72-96 hours, at the latest. Alternatively, they may post a guard, or alert nearby guards to watch for it. Then proceed with an acid wash in the given time period.
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    A side note about side streets.

    The street name of the political posturing was "Voltaire".

    François-Marie Arouet (French: [fʁɑ̃.swa ma.ʁi aʁ.wɛ]; 21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), known by his nom de plume Voltaire (/voʊlˈtɛər/;[1] French: [vɔl.tɛːʁ]), was a French Enlightenment writer, historian, and philosopher famous for his wit, his attacks on the established Catholic Church, and his advocacy of freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and separation of church and state. Voltaire was a versatile writer, producing works in almost every literary form, including plays, poems, novels, essays, and historical and scientific works. He wrote more than 20,000 letters and more than 2,000 books and pamphlets. He was an outspoken advocate, despite the risk this placed him in under the strict censorship laws of the time. As a satirical polemicist, he frequently made use of his works to criticize intolerance, religious dogma, and the French institutions of his day.


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    Voltaire was, apparently, raised to the 33rd degree of Freemasonry on his deathbed. The story also includes that Benjamin Franklin was present.
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    ^^^ What she + he says ^^^

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    I really don't understand why people think they would fake it?

    Yes... It's highly probable that it's a false flag but why on earth would they fake it? Do you really think they give a **** about killing a few people?

    Personally I'm convinced it's another false flag but actually faking it doesn't make any sense..
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    My dowsing tells me that the 'shooters' are pro Israeli and are still alive. Can that be proven? I was unable to view the videos today, only read.

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    I really don't understand why people think they would fake it?

    Yes... It's highly probable that it's a false flag but why on earth would they fake it? Do you really think they give a **** about killing a few people?

    Personally I'm convinced it's another false flag but actually faking it doesn't make any sense..
    I do not know why they staged the attack. I do not know how much was staged and how much was set in motion after the start of 'the live show started'.

    We were taught that the police confronted the evidence with the testimony (suspects and witnesses) to solve a crime.

    Using the same concept we inevitably came to the conclusion by analyzing the evidence (only two videos of the action) that the event was staged.

    The reasons or motives for using this strategy is another matter.

    Perhaps the evidence of staging the videos are intensional in order to wake up (knowing only enough) people and enable the creation of a new dialectic, as suggested by this article below.

    Throwing the Game: Why the globalists are Exposing Their Own false-flags (and the real agenda behind the Paris attacks)

    But the lack of understanding of our part of the used tactics do not eliminate the evidence of a preconceived scenario in the videos.

    These cabala work with mind games.

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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    Personally I'm convinced it's another false flag but actually faking it doesn't make any sense..
    Perhaps if you were insane and/or a psychopath you'd be able to make better sense of this event and others like it.

    Personally I do not think this is over with; France and several other countries basically said, "Bring it on! We dare you!!!!!" False flag or not that was clearly the message I saw with that unity march.

    Besides, it was France's turn to play their part in this sick and demented game of sorcery and globalization.
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    More pseudo-alternative twoddle from the twoddlemeister- as usual, avoiding the hot potatoes, instead firing blanks - just like the "terrrrists" and Paris constabulary.
    Don't you have anything better to add than that? What Russell said was great and I agree with him.
    Yeah it was a bit harsh of me. The thing is I keep listening to him in the hope that he will step out of his comfort zone instead of just being the mainstream dialectic of the mainstream line.....to no avail.

    Quote Posted by Octavusprime (here)
    Russel is intentionally not saying whether or not it is a false flag. He instead is focusing on what is known. IMO this is not to take the middle road but to reach a larger audience with what is the bigger picture: That it doesn't matter if the killings are real or not but that it is being used as a pretense for war and to stir hatred for Muslims.
    Firstly, he's not focusing on what is known, he's focusing on what we are being spoon-fed by the msm.

    Secondly, he already has a massive following. If he were to use that to highlight the suicide(d?) police commissioner or the blank firing "terrorist's" bloodless "head shot" or the french police firing more blanks into each other at the Jewish supermarket he could instigate some real paradigm shifts for many of the people who hang on his every word.

    Thirdly, I think it's of paramount importance if the killings are real or not because if they are exposed for what they are by someone with as large a profile as Russell, the war pretext falls on its @rse (where it should be).....and if he's really serious about his revolution, what better way to move it along?

    Sorry for going off topic. I''ll leave it there.
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    The big problem is that no-one wants to be the person (in this case -one who might be like Russel) that the prison guard swings their shotgun toward and shoots, when the crowd is rushing them. In order to be that person that gets shot, the given individual must 'stick out' (be more obvious) a bit more than others.

    The issue is that the prison guard only has about 8 shotgun rounds then the hundred or the thousand that are being held at bay, will literally tear them apart.

    The prison guard must give the impression of infinite ammunition, infinite back up, and infinite resource.

    But in fact, again...they only have the given 8 rounds in the single shotgun. In such a scenario, the guard must fire immediately at the very first one --- who even twitches. Only then will the force be projected and the force be effective. Even though it has no depth other than those 8 rounds. Human psychology 101.
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    I just saw this full video of the supposed shooting of the policeman Ahmed Merabet. I'm no expert, but this shows this part of the story to be a complete lie. Of course, this leads to the inevitable question "What else?"

    Please have a look and decide for yourself.

    http://http://www.globalresearch.ca/what-the-charlie-hebdo-execution-video-really-shows/5424505

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    From sott.net; «Paris terror attacks: SOP for Western Intel agencies», wed. 14. jan. 2015:

    «We have to remember that the broad agenda of Israeli and Western governments is not simply to 'defeat Muslim terrorist groups' in the Middle East, but to destroy any popular Arab Muslim resistance to ongoing Western control over the resources of Middle Eastern countries (and to protect the state of Israel, of course). In that context, it becomes clear that the continued existence of a 'Muslim terror threat' is a vital tool with which to effect that ongoing control, and to prevent a more equal status quo from emerging, one in which Western governments no longer enjoy the lion's share of the wealth of Middle Eastern nations, and in which Israel is forced to refrain from brutalizing Palestinians.

    For but one small example, among many, that illustrates this process of Western intelligence agencies handling 'Muslim terrorists'; we are told that the mentor of the two brothers who allegedly attacked the Charlie Hebdo offices is Djamel Beghal, and that Beghal's own mentor is Abu Hamza. Abu Hamza is an MI5 agent, and has been one since the late 1990s. (Two days after the Paris attack, Hamza was conveniently sentenced to life in prison in the US)»

    Link, article: http://www.sott.net/article/291316-P...Intel-agencies

    Link, Abu Hamza: http://rt.com/uk/221119-us-sentence-abu-hamza/

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    New video obtained by Reuters.


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    Even though I am not convinced that this video might be correct in assuming the hostage taker was handcuffed (or at least that his hands were tied together), I think another thing is worth mentioning; that the cops on both sides of the opening looks like they are almost in an angle where they can shoot at each other (blue on blue) if they miss the hostage taker when he`s running towards the rain of bullets. It just caught my attention (sorry if already posted). This could be calculated, pure luck, in fear of him wearing explosives, a mistake...


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    I always find conservatives from whatever quarter a 'nutty' bunch on the whole
    so related articles from Davids site this morning .......


    Zionist Attack Against The Sunday Times

    new Wednesday 14th January 2015 at 07:21 By David Icke





    ‘Israel demands the British Journal for apology after publishing a cartoon.
    The cartoon shows hypocrisy. While Netanyahu was walking in the front
    lines in Paris march, he built a bloody wall in Palestine.

    “The newspaper should apologize for this. We’re not going to let this stand
    as it is,” Israeli Ambassador to London Daniel Taub told The Times of Israel
    in a telephone interview. “We genuinely think that a red line has been
    crossed and the obligation on the newspaper is to correct that.”

    “Four reasons why U.K. cartoon of Netanyahu isn’t anti-Semitic in any
    way”, Anshel Pfeffer of Haartz wrote.

    Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch, the well-known billionaire and the owner of
    many corporate media (including the British Sunday Times) apologized to Israel.

    Read more: Zionist Attack Against The Sunday Times

    http://www.arabworld360.info/2015/01...day-times.html

    ===================================================

    United Against BBC’s Tim Willcox.

    new Wednesday 14th January 2015 at 07:06 By David Icke




    ‘Willcox has offered an apology, yet The Lobby remains unappeased. “BBC reporter
    Tim Willcox left campaigners against anti-Semitism unmoved with an apology,”
    writes the horridly aggressive Jewish Algemeiner.

    “Tim Willcox is right to have apologized for the question, but the thinking behind it
    was just as problematic as the way he phrased it,” added Dave Rich, Deputy
    Director of the Jewish Community Security Trust.

    One would expect that the ‘I am Charlie’ call would translate into a universal
    demand for a greater freedom to express but, at least as far as The Lobby is
    concerned, all we see is an relentless demand to reduce our Western universe into
    a Rabbinical ghetto dominated by fear and abuse.

    Enough is enough…’


    I presume it must be more than what he said on this clip posted on the article ??....



    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015...cs-tim-willcox

    ====================================================

    Conservative Jewish newspaper edits Angela Merkel out of Paris rally picture

    new Wednesday 14th January 2015 at 06:50 By David Icke





    ‘German Chancellor Angela Merkel may be one of the most powerful people on the
    planet but that hasn’t stopped an ultra-Orthodox Jewish newspaper editing her out
    of a picture of world leaders at the Paris march against terror

    The Israeli Haredi daily HaMevaser also managed to remove Paris Mayor Anne
    Hidalgo from the picture, and chose to crop it so that Danish Prime Minister Helle
    Thorning-Schmidt was just out of shot – although her left hand stays in.

    Haredi publications have been criticised in the past for editing women out of their
    pictures, citing modesty as the reason. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
    can’t even use that excuse to explain why he tweeted a picture of himself in the
    front row of world leaders at the march, but managed to crop the shot just at the
    point where Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was out rather than in.’

    Read more: Conservative Jewish newspaper edits Angela Merkel out of Paris rally picture

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/conserva...13-12n819.html


    Now you see her....



    Now you don't......
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    The big problem is that no-one wants to be the person (in this case -one who might be like Russel) that the prison guard swings their shotgun toward and shoots, when the crowd is rushing them. In order to be that person that gets shot, the given individual must 'stick out' (be more obvious) a bit more than others.

    The issue is that the prison guard only has about 8 shotgun rounds then the hundred or the thousand that are being held at bay, will literally tear them apart.

    The prison guard must give the impression of infinite ammunition, infinite back up, and infinite resource.

    But in fact, again...they only have the given 8 rounds in the single shotgun. In such a scenario, the guard must fire immediately at the very first one --- who even twitches. Only then will the force be projected and the force be effective. Even though it has no depth other than those 8 rounds. Human psychology 101.
    Human psychology 101, yes, Carmody, but based on the instinct for self-preservation overriding the instinct for protecting others. When a baby wanders in front of an oncoming bus, many will rush forward to be the first to take the bus and save the child. People like Russell have the instinct for self-preservation because they think they have better work to do by staying alive. It may be ego to some extent, but it is also true that the ones who step forward are the very leaders that the rest can least do without.

    You can also see the problem from the opposite angle: that guy in the kosher supermarket was willing to take a bullet, and even rush forward to take as many bullets as they could serve up, knowing that only the first one could do any damage as his many followers were safely elsewhere ready to fight another day. The problem being that there really is no shortage of bullets, and no shortage of targets: every bullet has its billet, as they used to say.

    But martyrdom of this kind is part of the ‘ideology’, for what of a better word, we are rejecting. We all want to live, and there is nothing cowardly about that. I personally refuse to be made to think otherwise. We don’t want martyrs notably because we don’t want people feeling suicidal. They are certainly not cowards either, but that is simply not the way to go.

    So ultimately, I don’t know if it is a question of courage and calculated risk-taking. You see, so many whistleblowers and free energy inventors and witnesses etc etc have already stepped forward to be taken out, along with many innocent bystanders. These guys at Charlie Hebdo are just the latest to poke their heads above the parapet. Where has it got us? Perhaps it has got us to Human psychology 102, since 4 million (about 15% of the population) have stepped forward quote ‘unafraid’ to share the burden and broaden the target, and reduce the personal risk to each of us. Some people are viewing these demonstrations as part of the programming: maybe they were to begin with; but it is up to all of us to decide that it is actually going to be the largely unscripted start of this:



    This ties in with our discussion of ‘illuminés’ as crazies. Hollande was indeed thinking in terms of madness – he used the word ‘folie’ (madness) twice yesterday at the ceremony for the dead policemen and woman – the individual madness and the collective madness having nothing to do with religion. This needs to be fought with mad-as-hell madness, which is not folly at all: more like controlled and directed anger.
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    On the subject of double standards, the following articles (in French, sorry) attempts to explain how Dieudonné gets taken to court and Charlie Hebdo seemingly does not. Actually, it does, often, but has only lost 9 cases out of 48. And conversely, cases against Dieudonné do get dismissed, including one in 2007 for a sketch titled ‘Isra-Heil’. You would expect him to have got into serious trouble for that, but he didn’t. So the situation is more complex than it seems.


    http://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/...0_4355770.html
    http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/articl...1824_3224.html


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    Good article from Joe Quinn on sott.net : http://www.sott.net/article/291316-P...Intel-agencies

    Excerpt:
    Quote Western Intel agencies - A breeding ground for phony terrorists

    When the US and EU governments defined Muslim groups in the Middle East as their enemy in the 'war on terror', US and EU intelligence agencies began the standard process of dealing with that 'threat'. Israeli intelligence agencies, of course, having lived with what it calls 'Muslim terrorism' for several decades, had long-since begun this process. The methods employed by British intelligence in dealing with the IRA during the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland illustrate clearly how the process works.

    The first (and most important) order of business is infiltration of the 'terrorist' group. This is typically done by capturing and 'turning' members of the target group so that they work as 'double agents' for the intel agency. It's a pretty simple process. A member is arrested and faced with a choice between long imprisonment (or torture and death) or working for the intel agency as an informant. Sometimes threats to family members and other forms of blackmail are used. On occasion, members turn themselves in and offer to work for the agency in return for money and immunity from prosecution or persecution. An actual member of the intelligence agency may also join the group as a new member and then, with the help of the agency, climb up through the ranks. In this way, the agency begins to gain control over the 'terrorist' group and to direct its actions. These types of informants must, of course, appear genuine to other group members, and they are encouraged by their handlers to carry out killings and other attacks in order to 'gain credentials'. In Northern Ireland, for example, one known MI5 agent within the IRA (codenamed 'Stake-knife') carried out dozens of murders of British military personnel and civilians. In many cases, the victims were selected, and their murders facilitated, directly by MI5.3

    The supposed goal of these tactics is to ultimately defeat and neutralize the 'terrorist organisation'. However, when we transpose these known methods onto Israeli, US, British and French intelligence agency activity in the Middle East, we run into an obvious problem. We have to remember that the broad agenda of Israeli and Western governments is not simply to 'defeat Muslim terrorist groups' in the Middle East, but to destroy any popular Arab Muslim resistance to ongoing Western control over the resources of Middle Eastern countries (and to protect the state of Israel, of course). In that context, it becomes clear that the continued existence of a 'Muslim terror threat' is a vital tool with which to effect that ongoing control, and to prevent a more equal status quo from emerging, one in which Western governments no longer enjoy the lion's share of the wealth of Middle Eastern nations, and in which Israel is forced to refrain from brutalizing Palestinians.


    British intelligence: producing BS since 1909

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