Global warming (the other way around)

[Violet]

I read an article about the topic of global warming. It's not a view I hear often. In fact, I've never heard about it.

And I don't know if anyone has posted this perspective already: the heat not coming from the sun (external) but exuding from the heating of earth's core (internal), and the immediate/urgent need to cool it off.

Here are some excerpts from the article:

Global Warming:
Can Earth EXPLODE ?

The real danger for our entire civilization comes not from slow climate changes, but from overheating the planetary interior.

Galileo discovered that Earth moves. Copernicus discovered that Earth moves around the Sun. In 2000 Tom Chalko, inspired by Desmarquet's report, discovered that the solid nucleus of our planet is in principle a nuclear reactor, it is eccentric, and that our collective ignorance may cause it to overheat and explode. The discovery has been published in June 2001 by the new scientific journal NUJournal.net.

Polar ice caps melt not because the air there is warmer than 0 deg Celsius, but because they are overheated from underneath. Volcanoes become active and erupt violently not because the Earth's interior "crystallizes", but because the planetary nucleus is a nuclear fission reactor that needs COOLING.

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Oceans around Antarctica at depths of 5 km are less salty and less dense confirming that Antarctica is melting from underneath. The fresh water is lighter than salt water, so it should be on top...

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In the period of time when the planetary climate changed by a small fraction of one degree, earthquakes have become 5 to 7 times more energetic.

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What causes an 8-fold increase in Antarctic glacier melting in just 3 years? Sun does not deliver 8 times the energy under the Antarctic ice does it? Some scientists predict that effects of "global warming" will take many decades. Can they explain the increase of the melting rate of Antarctic glaciers 8 times in 3 years? Overheating of the fission heated planetary interior can...

Source: http://bioresonant.com/news.htm

[Mike Gorman]

I believe the antarctic melting is actually attributed to submarine volcanic activity - it is not widespread, and the ice mass of the ice continent is growing. We are perched on the cusp of a 30 year cooling period due to the 240 year solar cycle - the sun shuts down a little and does not produce the same intensity of radiant output - the previous time this happened is called the 'Maunder minimum' and resulted in a substantial cool period - when the northern hemisphere countries had long cold winters - the Thames river icing over and fairs being held on it was at this time. There is no truth to the 'global Warming' Al Gore led nonsense- Yes we have climate change, but it is changing for quite different reasons than the United Nations is asserting. When you think about it, there is no 'optimum' climate condition - the weather is not 'designed for human beings' it is just a happy accident that we find it pleasing - but the climate is always changing, and it does not change for our benefit - which seems to be the thinking of the classic 'Green' arguments - why should the climate be optimum for us? NASA climatologist has put forward this idea of the 30 year cooling - a YouTube group called 'Suspicious Observers' is very worthwhile if you are interested in an alternative perspective on climate. I am not claiming to have all the answers, but I think the many climate scientists who being isolated by the politics surrounding this issue deserve to be heard.

[Violet]

A few examples of how it has been refuted:

(Part of the How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic guide)

Objection: We all live on a thin crust that floats on a huge ball of molten iron, and at its core, the Earth’s temperature is over 5000 degrees C! It’s pretty far fetched to think a few parts per million of CO2 can have a bigger effect that all that heat!

Answer:

Although there is nothing wrong with the statement that the Earth is truly very hot at its center (actually as hot as the surface of the sun) the notion that it is a significant source of heat at the surface is easily dismissed with a little critical thinking. If the inner heat were really the dominant factor, then surely the day-night cycle would not be what it is, nor would you expect such variation in climates over seasons and latitudes. How can the south pole be covered with thousands of meters of ice with all this heat supposedly bubbling up from the surface? Why would a little lower angle of sunlight cause the average temperature to drop from +20°C in the summer to -20°C in the winter?

The fact of the matter is, solid rock is an extremely good insulator and the heat from the mantle propagates up very slowly and diminishes very quickly (at about 20°C/km) to almost nothing by the time it is at the surface. At the surface, the earth is releasing less than one-tenth of one Watt/m2. If you could somehow capture all of the energy coming up from the earth’s core into the foundation of an average-sized home, you might have enough to power one 15W light bulb! Not a lot of of juice when you compare it to the sun, which provides on average some 342W/m2 of energy to the earth’s surface.

And let’s not forget that what we are talking about is climate change, not just climate. So we need some kind of change in this heat flux if we wish to explain a change in the global temperature. Scientists have calculated that increased greenhouse gases have resulted in a radiative forcing of 2.43 Wm-2 which means we need that many Watts/m2 of change to account for the current warming. Back to geothermal, this means the energy flow from the earth would have had to jump by over 200 times to be the cause of the approximately 0.8°C temperature rise.

It is pretty hard to imagine not noticing that!

(from: http://grist.org/article/global-warm...s-from-within/)

This idea that current warming comes from the earth's core is a bit of a surprise.

There are 173 Climate 'Myths' listed at Skeptical Science Arguments from Global Warming Skeptics and what the science really says and I can't find one that even vaguely relates to it. (Though I've seen it mentioned and rather rudely dismissed in various places at various times.)

The big problem with this idea is what's happened in the last 150 years to make such a huge difference in climate. There've been no changes observed in rates of tectonic or volcanic or similar large scale events linking the earth's core to surface to atmosphere. Unless anyone can point to any published papers from geologists, vulcanologists, seismologists or similar earth scientists showing that there has been such an observed change, then the whole question is moot.

Because there are literally thousands of papers published in mainstream climate science A History of Climate Science .

Remember always. The warming we've seen from long-lived greenhouse gases in the last 30 years was predicted - and calculated - over 100 years ago. A better example of scientific analysis giving testable predictions would be hard to come by.

If you're not happy with these references, spend some time with The Discovery of Global Warming - A History Spencer Weart's history of the topic is not scientifically demanding and sets out the science quite simply and in digestible chapters.


AND

I am not a global warming skeptic or denier. I am in complete agreement that man made greenhouse gases cause radiative forcing which heats up the surface air temperature of the planet. What I do not believe is that this same radiative force rains down nearly enough energy (heat) to raise the temperature of our oceans even one tenth of a degree. Such an amount of energy radiating from the outside in, IMO, would burn all surface life, even if it were evenly and proportionately distributed annually for 100 years. An energy source that produces heat which rivals our sun resides at earth's core. The ocean bottom is significantly closer to the fluid outer level of the earth's core than the earth's surface. By having ocean water much closer to a heat source, that is almost equal to the sun, than it is to the sun itself to me is irresponsible to overlook as an actor in ocean and surface air temperatures of our planet.

from: http://www.thescienceforum.com/pseud...aused-man.html

In reality, the carbon-dioxide greenhouse effect is a physical fact known since the 1800s. The only scientifically plausible systematic explanation for the rapid warming of the planetary climate since 1950 is industrial greenhouse pollution. Surface warming from the earth’s radioactive core amounts to only 0.087 watt per square meter, whereas incoming solar radiation provides 236 watts per square meter. Because of the hundreds of billions of tons of industrial carbon dioxide added to the atmosphere, the radiative forcing of greenhouse gases has increased from 1 W/m2 to 2.4 W/m2. The global climate is continuing to warm, with every decade since the 1970s warmer than the last, and the impacts of global warming are accelerating faster than scientists projected.
from: http://www.hillheat.com/articles/201...he-earths-core

[yelik]

There's lots of disinfo around on this subject. I understand that our sun could well be the cause.

As our sun absorbs dust and space matter within our solar system it is getting hotter, brighter and bigger. Because they cannot tax the sun they may well have blamed pollution and the burning of fossil fuels. Although it makes sense that we should endeavor to live in a clean and healthy environment. However, the Cabal literally feed the world on oil, its bloody well in everything we drink, eat, breath and touch.

[ghostrider]

I believe your are correct about the Earth's core being more like a miniature sun , for what it's worth this was stated by an ET ... Also many small parts to the larger picture are in place to sustain the core , as mankind tampers with the weather , nuclear testing , fracking , building underground bases and overpopulation , this delicate balance is disturbed and has dire consequences for us all ... the ET's say the Earth slowly collapses from within AKA sinkholes ... one only has to think a little , the depletion of the ozone allowing more of the suns harmful rays to warm the Earth , and the core exposed from within , both working together create a large mess = climate change ... We could be heading for a mini ice age as Earth/nature will try to counter balance the whole situation ... humans , animals and all living things when overheated try anything to cool off ...

[Lifebringer]

Could be the beginning of the "greenhouse effect" because not only is carbon still pouring into the atmosphere, but deadly, explosive methane, smack dab in the middle of those methane pools from permafrost melt an improperly capped oil wells. Yep ,until critical mass of methane, is stopped from going into the atmosphere, the tipping point is now a time bomb

No weight of arctic ice, makes the planet ripe for pole shift as well as what was foretold after the "flood." The promise that it won't be water, but fire next time.

Methane future, anyone?

[Kindred]

From Thiaoouba Prophecy, Chapter 13, pages 163-164
http://www.worldlibrariez.com/the-th...a-prophecy.pdf

(Thao, the author's Thiaoouban guide and mentor during his visit to their planet)

“For approximately one hundred and forty years on your planet, man has been accelerating the destruction of Nature and the pollution of the environment. This has happened since the discovery of steam power and the combustion engine. You have but a few years left in which to arrest the pollution before the situation becomes irreversible. One of the principal pollutants on Earth is the petrol-driven engine and this could be replaced immediately with a hydrogen engine that would cause no pollution, so to speak. On certain planets, this is called the 'clean motor'. Prototypes for such an engine have been constructed by various engineers on your planet(1), but they MUST be industrially manufactured in order to replace petrol engines. Not only would this measure mean a seventy percent reduction in current levels of pollution by combustion waste, but it would also be more economical for consumers.

The big petrol corporations have been terrified at the idea of this motor being popularized for it would mean loss of sales for their oil and subsequent financial ruin.

Governments, too, who impose enormous taxes on these oils, would suffer equally. You see, Michel, it always comes back to Money. Because of it, you have a whole economic and financial context that opposes progress towards radical change in the interest of all human life on Earth.

The people on Earth allow themselves to be pushed around, bullied, exploited and led to the abattoirs by political and financial cartels which are sometimes even associated with well-known sects and religions.

When these cartels fail to win the people with clever advertising campaigns intended to brainwash them, they try to succeed through political channels, and next through religion or through a clever blend of the lot.

Great men wanting to do something to do something for mankind have simply been done away with. Martin Luther King is one example; Gandhi is another.

But the people of Earth can no longer allow themselves to be treated as fools and led to the abattoirs like flocks of sheep by leaders that they, themselves, have democratically elected. The people form the vast majority. In a nation of one hundred million inhabitants, it is absurd that a group of financiers comprising perhaps a thousand individuals can decide the fate of the others – like the butcher does at the abattoir.

Such a group has well and truly stifled the business of the hydrogen motor so that it is no longer mentioned.

These people couldn't care less what might happen to your planet in years to come. Selfishly, they seek their gains, expecting to be dead before 'whatever is going to happen' happens. If the Earth disappears, as a result of horrific cataclysms, they assume they will already be dead.

There, they are making a big mistake, for the source of the coming disasters is the pollution which is growing daily on your planet, and its consequences will be felt very soon – much sooner than you can imagine. The people of Earth must not do as a child forbidden to play with fire; the child is without the experience and, in spite of the prohibition, he disobeys and burns himself. Once burnt, he 'knows' that the adults were right. He won't play with fire again but he will pay for his disobedience by suffering for several days afterwards.

Unfortunately, in the case that concerns us, the consequences are much more serious that the burn of a child. It's the destruction of your entire planet that is at risk(2) - With No Second Chance if you don't place your trust in those who want to help you.

It interests us to see that recently established ecological movements are gaining in momentum and power; and that the young people of Earth are 'carrying' other sensible people along with them in their fight against pollution.

There is only one solution, as Arki told you – the grouping of individuals. A group is only as powerful as it is large. Those whom you call the conservationists are becoming stronger and stronger and will continue to do so. But it is Vital that people forget their hatred, their resentment, and especially their political and racial differences. This group must be internationally united – and don't tell me that is so difficult – for already on Earth there exists a nonviolent and vary large international organization – the International Red Cross, which as been functioning effectively for quite some time.

It is essential that this conservationist group include in its programs not only the conservation of the environment from direct damage but from indirect damage as well, such as that which results from smoke; exhaust fumes from vehicle, smoke from factories, and so on.

The waste water from large towns and factories, which is chemically treated, is also harmful and empties into river systems and oceans. Smoke from the USA has already caused more than forty lakes in Canada to become sterile by means of the acid rains it provoked. The same thing is occurring in Northern Europe due to pollution from French factories and the German Ruhr.

Now we come to another kind of pollution that is of no small concern, though people might readily dismiss it. As the great Thaora told you, noise is one of the most noxious pollutants for it upsets your electrons and unbalances your physical compartment. I haven't yet mentioned these electrons to you and I see that your are not following me very well.

A normal human Astral body contains approximately four billion, trillion electrons. These electrons have a life span of approximately ten billion trillion of your years. They were created at the moment of creation. Your astral body contains them and, when you die, nineteen percent rejoin the electrons of the universe until required by Nature to form a new body or a new tree or animal, and eighty one percent rejoin your Higher-self.

(Michel interrupted) “I don't quite follow you.”

(Thao continued) “I know, but I intend helping you to understand. An astral body is not quite what you would call a pure spirit. On Earth, there is a belief that the spirit is made of nothing. This is false. The Astral body is composed of billions of electrons, exactly marrying your physical shape. Each of these electrons has a 'memory' and each is capable of retaining as much information as is contained in all the books that fill the shelves of an average town library.(3)

I see you staring wide-eyed at me, but it is as I say. This information is coded, like a microfilm containing all the plans of an industrial installation that a spy would be able to pass in a cuff link, though much more miniaturized than that. Certain physicists on Earth are now aware of this fact but the public, at large, hasn't been informed of it. Your Astral body transmits and receives messages, by means of these electrons, through the channel of your brain, to, and from your Higher-self. Information is being transmitted without you being aware of it, thanks to a weak electric current from your brain in harmony with your electrons.

Since it is the Higher-self which sent this Astral body into your physical body, it is in the natural order of things that your Higher-self should receive information from your Astral body.

Like all things electronic, the Astral body – tool of the Higher-self – is quite a delicate tool. During your waking hours it is capable of sending messages of extreme urgency to the Higher-self but the Higher-self seeks much more than that.

So, during sleep, your Astral body leaves your physical body to rejoin the Higher-self, either passing on required information or receiving information or orders. You have an old saying in French that; 'the night brings counsel'. This saying emerged from common experience. Over the course of years, people noticed that, on waking in the mornings, they often had the solutions to their problems.

Sometimes this is so and sometimes it isn't. If the 'solution' will be profitable to the Higher-self you can be sure that it will be presented to you – if not, you will wait in vain.

Now, those people who, through very advanced and special exercises, are able to detach their Astral bodies from their physical bodies, will be able to see a light, silvery-blue thread, such as you saw yourself, linking their physical and astral bodies. Their Astral bodies, likewise, are visible during the time that the separate lasts. It is these same electrons which form your Astral body and which create the visible effect of the thread.(4)

I see that you follow what I am saying and that you have grasped my point. Let me finish by explaining the dangers of noise. Noise directly attacks the electrons of your Astral body creating parasites, to use a radio and television term. If you are watch a television screen and notice several white spots, this is an indication that a small 'parasite' is at work. Similarly, if someone is operating an electric tool next door to your house, such large parasites will be produced on you screen that the image will distort completely.

The same thing occurs with the Astral body, but unfortunately you won't be aware of it in the same way that you are with a television screen; an, it's much worse, since noise Damages your electrons. And yet people say; 'Oh, we get used to it.' your brain 'tenses', so to speak and your psych initiates self-defense mechanisms, but not so the Astral body; a parasite invades its electrons – which, of course, has disastrous repercussions for your Higher-self.

The sound that reaches your ears are clearly very important. A particular piece of music can elevate you to a state of euphoria, while another piece, although very pretty, will have no effect on you, or perhaps, irritate you. Try an experiment; take a piece of soft violin, piano or flute music that you like and play it as loudly as you can. The suffering of your eardrums will not be as great as the discomfort you'll feel within. Most of your fellow human beings on Earth consider noise pollution to be of negligible concern, but the noise of the exhaust pipe of a motor bike is three to four times worse than the noxious fumes that it discharges. While the fumes affect your throat and lungs, the noise affects your Astral body.

However, no one has ever been able to take a photograph of your Astral body and, so, people don't concern themselves with it!

Since your fellow earthlings like proof, let them consider this: there are people on Earth who are sincere and who claim to have seen ghosts – I don't refer to charlatans.

What they have seen is actually the nineteen percent of electrons that don't comprise the Astral body. These electrons detach themselves from the physical body three days after it's death. Indeed, as a result of certain effects of static electricity, these electrons can be seen having the same form as the physical body. Sometime, before being re-utilized by Nature, they are 'vacant', but they, too, have memories and return to 'haunt' places they knew – places they love or hated.

(Michel) “Or hated?”

(Thao) Yes, but you'd need to write not one, but two books, if we were to concern ourselves with this subject.

(Michel) 'Can you see into my future? Surely you can, since you are able to do things which are much more difficult.'

(Thao) You know very well that I won't tell you, so why do you ask? It is very bad to know the future and those who have their fortunes told commit a double error. First, the fortune teller might be a charlatan, and second, it is contrary to Nature to know what the future hold, for otherwise, the knowledge would not be effaced in the 'river of oblivion'. (5)

(Michel) Many people believe in the influence of the stars, and follow the signs of the Zodiac. What do you think of that?(6)

To this, Thao didn't reply, but she smiled...

1: Look up Stanley Meyers on youtube

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WEp6ckvRtj0

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OXctY1K4wko

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CcNFgDuEYUg

this isn't of stanley meyers, contrary to the title of the video, it is a compelling story as it shows the degree to which tptw go to, to insure their dominance.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ocFpblVGWDA

2: See OP's link to bioresonant or here: http://bioresonant.com/news.htm
3: see : chance of choice (@ http://nujournal.net/choice.html )
4: see Thiaoouba Prophecy, chapter 8 – 'Delving into the psychosphere',
and @ 36:40

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YcID0NGxJyE

5: see Thiaoouba Prophecy, the birth canal – chapter 11 – 'Who was Christ?'
6: See “The Unknown Reality, Volume Two” by Jane Roberts (as Seth)... Session 729 -
pages 522 – 523: a short portion, although there is a Lot more on page 523 that deals with 'astrology'.
“The universe is seeded with various kinds of consciousnesses. Some of these appear to you as planets or stars, as they “intrude” into your field of actuality. As such the appear to behave in a certain fashion, to take a certain form, to have certain effects. You and the stars are simultaneous events, each conscious and aware but in different “scales” of actuality – as your scale of consciousness is different from that of violets.”

in Unity, Peace, and LOVE

[earthadvocate]

What seem to be omitted in this discussion is the impact of geoengineering and manipulation of the weather for unknown agenda:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/j...ther-extremes/

[Kindred]

Posted by earthadvocate (here)
What seem to be omitted in this discussion is the impact of geoengineering and manipulation of the weather for unknown agenda:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/j...ther-extremes/

It is Much more than just weather control ... see this Italian film with English subtitles... all the latest info on this subject. However, this is just the tip of the 'iceberg'...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vzAR6P3nscU

All this info about 'chemtrails' certainly is important, but is something of a distraction from the greater causal effect of ALL pollution, as outlined in my previous post and supported by the linked evidence provided (just above earthadvocate's). As the OP suggested, the actual upheaval of Earth, and quite possibly it's destruction akin to the planet that Used to be between Jupiter and Mars, and is now seen as the asteroid belt, is a distinct possibility.

I don't wish to be a 'doomsayer', but these effects and possibilities have been provided to all the major gov'ts by the benevolent ET's, but these very gov'ts are being run by cabals and corporations who view money and power as more important than life. Again, I refer to the previous post for collaboration.

Bill Cooper briefly described the ET warnings in 1985 in this video beginning @ about 25:40 (actually, a bit further in, but this gives the immediate background to this information)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pOxabjfqIEE

In Unity, Peace and LOVE