CAR runs on SALTWATER approved for production in Europe!

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Electric Car Powered by Salt Water: 920 hp, 373 Miles/Tank

Mar 3, 2014

Quant Electric Car Powered by Salt Water: 920 hp, 373 Miles per Tank

... It’s finally here folks and it is LEGIT ...

The recent announcement that the Quant e-Sportlimousine, which is a salt water powered car, has been certified for use on European roads is a big sign that the Oil Cartels are losing the energy war.

Unlike traditional cars that run on gasoline, the Quant e-Sportlimousine runs on an electrolyte flow cell power system made by NanoFlowcell that has the ability to generate an astonishing 920 horsepower (680 kW).

This salt water powered car can go from 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in 2.8 seconds and has a top speed of 217.5 mph (350 km/h). The Quant e-Sportlimousine is built by the German company Quant.

nanoFLOWCELL AG developed the QUANT e-Sportlimousine -- the first car equipped with nanoFLOWCELL® drive. The prototype is set to generate new impulses for research into battery development and flow-cell technology.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RqLpqR0SPnQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nzrKZcbaMwA

http://aetherforce.com/electric-car-...373-milestank/

[A Voice from the Mountains]

This is a huge development in the world of energy and the first stroke driving one of the final nails into the coffin of Big Oil on planet Earth.

When this finally starts to break into America, the big oil industry as we know it will be dead.

[Dennis Leahy]

(Even though we discussed this before, and several of us found it a bit disingenuous to use the term "salt water" for the liquids in the battery system), to me, the significant leap forward from all other electric cars is the fact that this car actually makes its own electricity. It is not just an electric car full of batteries that need to be plugged in (to a coal-fired or nuclear power plant's dirty - dirty disguised as clean - electricity.) The car contains two fluids and is sort of a giant battery.

this: "373 Miles per Tank" is my big question mark. What has to be added to the tank after 373 miles? Distilled water? Tap water? Or does the car also require the metallic salts (which is where they got the notion to call the fluids "salt water") to be added at a fill-up?

I WANT this car to be as incredible as its commercial, and for it to be incredibly "green." If it is, I want them to succeed beyond their wildest expectations. I also want them to produce the next generation of this car for half of the current $50K USD sticker price, and it's fine by me if it can only go half the 217 mph, and take twice as long to go from 0 to 60.

[Mu2143]

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[Ol' Roy]

Awesome! I believe, if mass produced, the price will go down! Just thinking, would the powers that be charge us 3 dollars for a gallon of seawater? Especially,if you lived inland!

[WhiteLove]

Am I dreaming? Well, I am at least awake. Cool stuff!

[ghostrider]

three quarters of our planet is salt water , let them try and say salt water is rare and needs to be high priced ... lol quick go buy stock in bottled water and salt ...

[ghostrider]

bye bye big oil , you've made enough off the people , go count your trillions , while we clean up our world and go quietly across mother natures beautiful veil of wonder ... no more dirty air , no more loud engines , or roaring traffic ... imagine a city moving in silence and doing it while keeping the air clean and pure ... futuristic for sure ... long overdue ...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
this: "373 Miles per Tank" is my big question mark. What has to be added to the tank after 373 miles? Distilled water? Tap water? Or does the car also require the metallic salts (which is where they got the notion to call the fluids "salt water") to be added at a fill-up?

I think it's a "better battery" ... about five times the energy storage of Li-ion batteries. What gets added after 373 miles is more of the two kinds of special electrolytic fluids ... lots more ... 200 liters (53 gallons) of each of the two kinds.

From nanoFLOWCELL unveils flow cell battery prototype vehicle (GreenCarCongress.com; 5 March 2014):

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Liechtenstein-based nanoFLOWCELL unveiled the QUANT e-Sportslimousine, a prototype vehicle equipped with a nanoFLOWCELL flow cell battery powertrain, at the Geneva Motor Show. This flow cell system supports an electric driving range of between 400 to 600 km (249 to 373 miles) in the QUANT e-Sportlimousine prototype, the company claims.

Flow cells or flow batteries combine aspects of an electrochemical battery cell with those of a fuel cell. The electrolytic fluids in flow cells—usually metallic salts in aqueous solution—are pumped from tanks through the cell. This forms a kind of battery cell with a cross-flow of electrolyte liquid. One advantage of this system in general is that the larger the storage tanks for the electrolyte fluid are, the greater the energy capacity. Too, the concentration of an electrolytic solution contributes to the the quantity of energy that it transports.

To charge or discharge the nanoFLOWCELL, two different electrolytic solutions are pumped through the appropriate battery cell in which an electrode (anode or cathode) is located. A membrane separates the two electrolyte chambers and their differing chemistries. At a nominal voltage of 600 V and 50 A nominal current, the system in the lab is achieving continuous output of 30 kW.

According to nanoFLOWCELL, its flow battery has a specific energy of about 5-times that of a Li-ion battery (600 Wh/kg compared to ~120 Wh/kg). The company attributes the performance of the nanoFLOWCELL to the characteristics of its newly-developed, and unspecified, electrolytic fluids, made up of metallic salts at very high concentration. Slightly more specifically, the company says that a large increase in the number of charge carriers in the electrolyte fluid within the nanoFLOWCELL significantly increased its performance compared to conventional redox flow-cells (about 5x the specific energy and several orders of magnitude more specific power).

The company also claims its flow cells can go through 10,000 charging cycles with no noticeable memory effect and suffer almost no self-discharging.

The first QUANT e-Sportlimousine prototype carries two 200-liter (53 gallons US) tanks on board, for a total energy capacity of 120 kWh. The QUANT e-Sportlimousine energy consumption is about 20 kWh/100 km, when driving in the lower load range. Increasing the tank volume of the QUANT e-Sportlimousine to 800 liters would be possible, the company says.

Once the electrolytic fluids are discharged, the contents of both tanks must to be replaced. The prototype features a double tank system with dual filler necks, one for each electrolyte, to keep times for the electrolyte liquid replacement to a minimum.

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[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Mu2143 (here)
Just think about why is this coming out and it has not been stopped by the PTB.
Think about it is this just another distraction to keep you thinking they
are going to solve the problems they have created?

No, we are solving the problems that we have created by letting TPTB gain as much power as they did in the first place. How's that for a change in mindset? We have the ultimate power, as the billions of common citizens of this planet.

Look at the Internet. Big blow to them, with how much information it brought people for the first time. You think they wanted that? Look at how much life has advanced since the Middle Ages in general. You think they like the fact that serfdom was abolished and that personal rights are so prevalent in modern history? By the fact that they seem to be trying so hard to remove these rights from us today, along with freedom of speech on the Internet, demonstrates that we do win victories over their agendas and that they can't just go out and do whatever they want to, whenever they want to. They're people just like us and they don't get everything that they want.

The reason this specifically has not been stopped by them is because big oil is losing a lot of money very quickly, and even the US Navy is talking about switching to saltwater to power its ships. Even the Rockefeller family has started pulling money out of oil corporations, and that's where they made their original fortune. Nothing lasts forever and big oil is no exception to that. The only thing that's really impressive here is that they've made this technology last as long as it has, because we could have gotten rid of it to run things on water 100 years ago. They suppressed it for as long as they could.

[Rollo]

Maybe it's Germany's or the West strategy to replace the oil and its importation.
Better is to sell ionic liquid - salt in the liquid state - without middle man directly to the customer.
If this car needs always this fluids to run then Germany or the West created "Quant" leap.
But principle is still the same like with oil, pay for the fluid first then you can travel.
I'm sure producer of the ionic liquid for this car or any car with this technology patented it and this is maybe the base of the business model.
I don't believe we can just put the "salt water" to the tank and drive, not in the world run by corporations.

The car registration plates on the advertising are from Monaco - place where people with a lot of money stop or live to make business, avoid taxes, have fun, etc.
What is a message by showing this sort of image. Business as usual I guess.

[meat suit]

had a quick listen to what Elvis had to say in the OP video, and as it would appear that this is a battery powered E car.
that battery needs charging from a power source....
a new type of battery is always interesting.... I expect the salt water within the charge/discharge cells will cause some epic chemical reactions to the components involved... what would last longest there? nickel maybe??

anyway, no free energy here...

[Mu2143]

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[Matt P]

Very cool car but I get the feeling this is made to appeal to some rich guys having another pet car to show off. If you really want to build a car that would transform peoples' thinking and living, make it simple, inexpensive and something they can put their kids in. This does not seem to be a very practical family car.
Like the Tesla electric car...cool but 80 grand and no room for groceries and kids.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea but I think we can do much better.

Matt

[Lifebringer]

Don't worry, with the oceans rising, you might be able to drop a bucket from your house window. LOL Just kidding and excited about this car. If they can do this with a car, can they do this with boats or "arks?" Tap a drop hose and travel as long as the water is high on water cities? Is this gonna be like "water world?

[Lifebringer]

Posted by Rollo (here)
Maybe it's Germany's or the West strategy to replace the oil and its importation.
Better is to sell ionic liquid - salt in the liquid state - without middle man directly to the customer.
If this car needs always this fluids to run then Germany or the West created "Quant" leap.
But principle is still the same like with oil, pay for the fluid first then you can travel.
I'm sure producer of the ionic liquid for this car or any car with this technology patented it and this is maybe the base of the business model.
I don't believe we can just put the "salt water" to the tank and drive, not in the world run by corporations.

The car registration plates on the advertising are from Monaco - place where people with a lot of money stop or live to make business, avoid taxes, have fun, etc.
What is a message by showing this sort of image. Business as usual I guess.

You don't believe you can just put salt in water and drive?
Boil some water with salt and some without salt. See the chemical changes that produce hydrogen and boils quicker to produce energy faster.

I believe thats why they only have mostly biology and chemistry in schools now, because life is chemistry.

[Nick Matkin]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
(Even though we discussed this before, and several of us found it a bit disingenuous to use the term "salt water" for the liquids in the battery system), to me, the significant leap forward from all other electric cars is the fact that this car actually makes its own electricity. It is not just an electric car full of batteries that need to be plugged in (to a coal-fired or nuclear power plant's dirty - dirty disguised as clean - electricity.) The car contains two fluids and is sort of a giant battery.

this: "373 Miles per Tank" is my big question mark. What has to be added to the tank after 373 miles? Distilled water? Tap water? Or does the car also require the metallic salts (which is where they got the notion to call the fluids "salt water") to be added at a fill-up?

I WANT this car to be as incredible as its commercial, and for it to be incredibly "green." If it is, I want them to succeed beyond their wildest expectations. I also want them to produce the next generation of this car for half of the current $50K USD sticker price, and it's fine by me if it can only go half the 217 mph, and take twice as long to go from 0 to 60.

Exactly. We've discussed this before here. It requires 2x200 litres (that's 400 kg or 883 lbs!) of some fancy metallic salts dissolved in water that are combined in the car to generate electricity.

Does this really sound like "A car that runs off salt water"? Well it doesn't to me. Possibly a step in the right direction if the electrolytes are easy and cheap to mass produce and harmless when combined or easily recycled.

As Dennis says, this is disingenuous to say the least, if not actually deliberately misleading. Advertisers often bent the truth, but this is too far. No wonder the car shows haven't highlighted it - if it was this good I dare say the boys from Top Gear would be all over it!

Sorry to p*** on the parade chaps, but it's just not what it seems...

[meat suit]

Posted by mpennery (here)
Very cool car but I get the feeling this is made to appeal to some rich guys having another pet car to show off. If you really want to build a car that would transform peoples' thinking and living, make it simple, inexpensive and something they can put their kids in. This does not seem to be a very practical family car.
Like the Tesla electric car...cool but 80 grand and no room for groceries and kids.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea but I think we can do much better.

Matt

its there.....Nissan Leaf http://www.nissan.co.uk/GB/en/vehicl...psmhk5Jq6Zk_dc

several friends of mine drive it for family use.... it costs £150 to drive 10000 miles at UK electricity prices.

[Cjay]

Previously posted in this thread

Perhaps the mods should merge the two threads.

[Nick Matkin]

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
Boil some water with salt and some without salt. See the chemical changes that produce hydrogen and boils quicker to produce energy faster.

Maybe I've misinterpreted you, but adding salt to water does not liberate hydrogen when you boil it. If only that were true...