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    I'm sorry, I have to do this:

    What part of "the oxygen level is falling and everything is dying" did you not understand?"

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    More info with a post like this would be helpful...
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    I guess we are even sorrier than you Earthlink ? / ? May be waist a bit more of our time with a GPS of where your thoughts are leading this thread to, or even from.? Please waist more of our time. with just a bit more, than just a question mark.
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    I'm sorry, I have to do this:

    What part of "the oxygen level is falling and everything is dying" did you not understand?"
    Was there something posted before what you wrote and was deleted?
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    wrong thread? or... wrong website ?

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    Wasn't this to do with one of the resent Fukushima radiation problem AP's, the dying see floor?
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    I wrote this originally in 2010, and, it is based on decades of work by some of our best. Our scientists do not get credence from media.

    This graph displays the recorded measurements of the O2, or Oxygen, level of our atmosphere. Unlike the countless tens and tens of thousands of mainscream media source articles and reports on Science, created in well funded think tanks with outcomes pre-determined, this type of data, recorded measurements, is immune to slander, and offers no terms to convince us of its authenticity. This is a recording of the seasonal rise and fall of our Oxygen level, from the years 1990 through 2006.

    As is akin to standard industry practices it matters not the byproduct or localized effects of our industrial practices, this industry will continue, and everyone now knows that there is no freedom of the press, and that banksters run just about everything here on Earth today, though, we are revolting against this now. And all the while, this issue, one which should have never been trumped, carries on. In this case, regarding the free gas in our atmosphere known as Oxygen, it does not matter what the industry needs are, to exist, for, the needs of this industry and the needs of everything inside what is known as The Animal Kingdom, are one in the same when it comes to O2.

    And all the while, the masses of people under the influence of the massive media spin campaigns, do not even know where to set their sights.

    Everyone is on about electric generation, and windmills, and solar panels. Lightbulbs and refrigerators. Coal fired power plants that are (points randomly in any direction) hundreds of miles that way somewhere.

    While all around you, every day, you can hear them.

    Lots of them.

    Internal Combustion Engines (ICE) are everywhere around you now, and are used every day in large numbers all around you, just like every other city and country on Earth now, and intenal combustion engines run from fossil fuels. You can hear them whenever they are used, you have no choice, and in spite of this, they are barely ever, if at all, mentioned. These devices, like you, require Oxygen to function, but unlike you and even unlike conventional fire, these devices are hogs. They require much more Oxygen to run than anything around themselves. Where hundreds of conventional candles can share a room with us, not even a small one of these can be brought into even very large rooms and be turned on, for, within minutes they will deplete enough Oxygen from their surroundings to kill everyone in the area.

    For the record, in 2010 there were 1 billion registered and plated passenger vehicle cars, all countries combined, and that is just the passenger vehicle cars. What gets used, every day, amounts to billions of ICE's world wide, and is where the bulk of the 100 million barrels of oil that "we" burn every day goes. There are dispensaries (gas stations) and carrying devices (gas cans) all around you. How anyone could come up with fuzzy enough math to somehow have coal and other industries liable for anything near the massive ammount of emissions created by billions of ICE devices is an aspiring target, and yet, they seem to have achieved it.

    Still though, nobody even seems to have noticed that species, all species insect bird and fish, are now falling faster than days. Birds are falling dead out of the sky in the thousands at a time. Fish are dying by the hundreds of thousands. (fish, like all others in the Animal Kingdom, rely on our atmosphere as their source of Oxygen, and it is through wave action and slow permeation from the atmosphere that O2 makes it into water) Internal combustion engines produce CO, CO2, NO, NO2, SO, SO2, HO and H2O2 (a.k.a. exhaust fumes, which, the media only ever refers to as CO2 for some reason) and all of those gasses are rich in O, which stands for Oxygen, and, as fossil fuels are Hydrocarbons with no Oxygen in them, all of the O's required to make these gasses inside the motor, comes from, or rather is taken from, our atmosphere.

    We even have a term now in our lexicon called Dead Zones, and they have been increasing in both frequency and severity since being used first in the year 2000. Dead Zones are areas in both water and air that do not contain enough Oxygen to support the life forms in question, and so, they all die, quickly. I can go weeks without food, days without water, and only a matter of seconds (up to 180 seconds?) without a sufficient supply (varies by species, around 19.50% for Humans) of Oxygen. That is how my machine runs, and so does every other creature in the Animal Kingdom. It took The Plant Kingdom billions of years to enrich the atmosphere to roughly a quarter, or 25%, with O2 and enable us and other species to leave the constant power supply of the ground, and only 1 century for the fossil industrial complex to deplete it to the point (19.7218% today, depending on elevation, and falling) where some species (soon to be all) have to now return to The Plant Kingdom, some how.

    Anyway, these are actual readings. There isn't room for interpretation here, as when you measure something, all you are doing is counting it.

    It is my opinion that this is beyond not good.

    Look up 'birds falling from the sky' or 'dead birds falling from the sky' on google or you tube video sites. Do another video search for 'Dead Zones'. Those would be the most important video searches you will ever do. You'll see some stories of fish in there too. Look for the thousands of doves that fell from the sky in Italy. They were all white doves, and because of their colour, you can easily see the blue stains in their dead mouths. Blue stains = Hypoxia, or, lack of Oxygen, as the cause of death.

    This isn't a joke, it is our reality.

    But none in the higher level of our society dare to stand up to the fossil industrial complex. Why? Because they spend inordinant amounts of monies convncing people otherwise, right up to even kill people, to get their way. The only recourse most people have to this, would be to switch anything they have that is powered by a liquid fuel, to another device that does the same thing but is powered by an electric motor; and it would have to be, at this late date, all of them; cars trucks and busses included, all of the things around yourself that use them. If everybody did that, this elemental problem would be solved. Tesla and Einstein were the last publicly displayed victims to these banksters who both spoke similarly in favour of electric motors. There have been more, but never in the public eye. Einstein also said that it is a mistake for us to share our world with devices that, like me, consume Oxygen. And he said that decades ago, after he noticed it was infact falling, because of actual readings taken over various years. The last 15 years of his life, he was greatly concerned for our future, because of this.

    Finally, I live in Canada. Every year for the last 10 there has been fewer and fewer insects and birds every year. The Butterfly's are all but gone, amongst many other insect types, too many to name, and most of which I never knew their name to begin with. It is now quiet outside at night. [2011 actually saw some of them come back, and it is not completely silent at night, as it was in 09 and 10, however their nightly song is discordant and most of the pieces of the orchestra are missing, where it used to be very loud every night] Elevation has much to do with this, as O2, with an atomic weight of 16, is a relatively fat heavy gas, and is the most concentrated at the surface. I have friends who live in a coffee growing region of Brasil, up in the mountains, and they don't have any birds or insects anymore.

    The canary is not in a coal mine, the canary is on the surface, and, the canary has fallen.

    We will have all of the creatures in the Animal Kingdom, or we will have the fossil industrial complex, but we will not have both.

    Further, we no longer have the time needed to switch our transportation sector (35 times the GHG output of all of the coal power plants combined) to electric motors anymore. We need to start producing Oxygen, from water, right now.

    I'm so so sorry it has gotten this far, I truly am, but their absolute control over media is the worst thing that has ever happened to the Human race.

    And there are two things I'd like to focus on. The solution.

    The first is called electrolysis. That would be just dumping excess electricity, (which, all power production system make, since, big compressors and industrial electrical use have to turn on and off, the power must be there all the time, so, power plants have to over produce their loads, and, that surplus power is just grounded out now to a suitable ground) into water, and therefore creating vast amounts of both Oxygen and Hydrogen which can just be released into the air. The cost to do this is insignificant, and, insignificant to the purpose. Also, with the number of power grids we have globally, we could adjust the current deadly level up to a sustainable 21% in a calendar year or less, if, we all participated. There are power grid groups, and existing affiliations, all over the world who just deal in electrical production, so, it is well within reasonable limits.

    The second is doing a quick inventory and get as many varied species as we can into Oxygen enriched environments, since, their numbers are declining rapidly now and we will out live them.

    Existing greenhouses, which we have many of, and many of those are chem free and organic too, can quickly and easily be retrofitted to house insects and birds, and we can freshen the air additionally by releasing Oxygen from O2 tanks (cylinders) which we already have many of, and use in both mfg and health care extensively, and the industry already exists and thrives.

    And I'd like to close by saying that everything is simple, and when we apply ourselves, things happen.

    And that we're good like that.

    Also the rapid deployment of electric cars, busses, trucks, taxi cabs, street sweepers, lawn mowers: everywhere ICE's are currently being used, would help immensely.

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    Anyway, all of this work and more will cease if we do not address the elemental problem noted above.

    We need to live here, on Earth, as if we were permanently here, otherwise, we will only be here temporarily.

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    they cut down trees , and increase the number of humans on Earth ... less air more C02 , poison , it harms nature and animals and us ... Mars lost it's atmosphere and they had to flee to Earth ... ever seen what it does to a person in a garage with the car running ??? that's what are whole planet is , cars running , people suffering from all sorts of body troubles , migraines , tiredness ... the ET's had plenty to say about this ... they say there are too many people on Earth to sustain the balance of nature and mankind ... they suggest a birth stop ...
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    I'm not a climate expert but the graph shows declining oxygen levels as a percent of nitrogen in the atmosphere. Probably to do with deforestation and the like as well as burning fossil fuels, pollution, radiation contamination, chemtrailing, increasing population, sun heating up. In fact everything to kill us off I suspect. A decline in the insect and bird population are early warning signs.

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    The O2/N2 ratio expressed in this graph is a measurement of both, yes, and the old guys working at the atmospheric monitoring station still insist on doing it the old fashioned way, with flask samples and all, and of course insist is is more accurate, even while we have them backed up with automated sensors similar to the ones used in mining operations around the world to keep miners alive, which are accurate to 4 decimal points. There isn't a discrepancy between their numbers and the highly accurate gauges, and, I think they should be allowed to keep their jobs too

    This also makes one think about the real ratio between Nitrogen and Carbon in internal combustion engines, and perhaps is a reminder that CO, CO2, NO and NO2 are all produced in equal amounts.
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    there is a weird record in history, in the 80´s, another low level of oxigen in the atmosphere, deadly low; suddenly, from one day to the other, the level rised up... no one knows how.

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    Very interesting topic Earthling, but..

    I almost flush the thread, meaning not reading it at all. Why? because there were no topic in the first post - if you think that your way attracts attention and makes more readership, maybe a review of this approach could be more efficient.

    Thanks to Purplelama, I continued reading. And yes Beetobig, I saw the same records you did in the 80's.??

    I would suggest that you put some information on your first post to attract readership and discussion on a larger scale, This topic is very interesting and ties in wonderfully with chemtrailing us, with poisoning the earth, with dumbing us down, the best way being a lack of adequate levels of oxygen. Until our red blood cell enlarge to take more in, as it is the case for the native of Machu Pichu and Titicaca lake.

    Also, oxygen was much higher when dinosaurs existed, it seems.

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    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    Presenting this graph without explanation of what the numbers mean tells us nothing beyond showing that something relating to oxygen/nitrogen ratios is falling, somewhere, and with appropriate scaling, that fall can be made to look dramatic.

    This graph is explained at this page: Scripps Oxygen (O2) Concentration Measurements - Mauna Loa.

    As it explains on that page:
    Quote The O2/N2 ratio is expressed in per meg units, which express the relative change in the O2/N2 from a standard ratio, multiplied by 1 million.
    So the graph is showing us that over the sixteen years from 1990 to 2006, the O2/N2 concentration fell by about 250 parts per million, relative to a standard ratio. This is as measured at the Mauna Loa Observatory, in Hawaii, USA, which is about 3400 meters above sea level.

    In other words, the oxygen concentration declined about 1/40-th of one-percent, over that period (1/4 of one part per thousand.)

    It looks more dramatic when you multiply the vertical axis by one million to scale it .
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    It doesn't matter what some of "the science" says in this game Paul, there is science to refute everything. Anything and everything can and has been refuted.

    On this one I'm going by the only lighthouse I know to be true, because I maintain it myself. I am going by an eye witness account on this one, and it is based entirely on that which I used to see with my own eyes and no longer see now with my own eyes, and that which I used to hear with my own ears and no longer hear now with my own ears.

    Your words have fallen to the floor for me, and have no meaning over my own eye witness account.

    I'm sorry.

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    Words can not bring back the Butterflies. There comes a point in these games of interpretation where in order for the words themselves to carry meaning they are going to have to be capable of miraculous achievements, which, we know they can not do.
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    Quote Posted by Earthlink (here)
    On this one I'm going by the only lighthouse I know to be true, because I maintain it myself. I am going by an eye witness account on this one, and it is based entirely on that which I used to see with my own eyes and no longer see now with my own eyes, and that which I used to hear with my own ears and no longer hear now with my own ears.
    And, pray tell, what did your eyes once see, but no longer see ?

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    Words can not bring back the Butterflies.
    Ah - you used to see butterflies, where now you see none?

    Ok - that doesn't surprise me greatly, given the variety of toxins that we humans have been putting into the air, earth and water of late.

    My analysis of how small was the change in the oxygen to nitrogen ratio at the Mauna Lao Observatory does not contradict your observations of an absence of butterflies.

    Both could easily be true.
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    Nor for that matter to the several comments above trying to make sense of your earlier posts show disagreement with, or dismissal of, your observations.

    For the most part they simply show an inability to guess what the heck you meant. It would be easier to understand your posts, and to engage in useful discussion, if you could find a way to explain more completely what you are trying to say.
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    Quote Posted by Earthlink (here)
    It doesn't matter what some of "the science" says in this game Paul, there is science to refute everything. Anything and everything can and has been refuted.

    On this one I'm going by the only lighthouse I know to be true, because I maintain it myself. I am going by an eye witness account on this one, and it is based entirely on that which I used to see with my own eyes and no longer see now with my own eyes, and that which I used to hear with my own ears and no longer hear now with my own ears.

    Your words have fallen to the floor for me, and have no meaning over my own eye witness account.

    I'm sorry.
    Earthlink, I was once going to write a little thing about what you express here. Briefly: two ends: strong characters who don't really care about what other people think as opposed to those who can't move without the approval of others. (jumping & skipping parts) And how messages, true though they are, can receive big blows by not considering the course of reception by an audience.

    In this case you simply need other people to complete/complement (?) the realness of what you are trying to say. Your eye witness account is not enough for this. It's enough to you, but I take it you are trying to bring out a signal. The readers are in that out part. Hope that make sense or is helpful in any way.
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