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    Thanks Darren:

    Yes, everybody misses the boat, in one way or another. Part of me cannot believe the woman's statement:


    "Moreover, it is a myth that photosynthesis controls the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere. Even if all photosynthesis on the planet were shut down, the atmosphere’s oxygen content would change by less than 1 percent."


    The only reason why Earth's atmosphere has any oxygen at all is because of oxygenic photosynthesis. There is plenty of controversy on how much oxygen was in the atmosphere over the eons, but pointy-headed statements like the one above should not be published for lay audiences. Photosynthesis is the only process that produces oxygen with any reliability. Also, it has the virtue of producing virtually all of the energy that humans and life use on Earth. Her photosynthesis and oxygen comment above is highly misleading. What is true is that if photosynthesis stopped for a year, yes, Earth's oxygen levels would decline by less than 1%, but all life on Earth would also starve to death. So, what the hell is she trying to say? Nobody is concerned with atmospheric oxygen levels. That is not where the problem is.

    It is inarguable that human activities have been changing the composition of Earth's atmosphere, including methane, and it is also inarguable that the lion's share of change has been due to burning the hydrocarbons that has powered the Industrial Revolution. Probably what scares scientists the most is the undeniable Global Warming warming up the Arctic and oceans enough so that the carbon dioxide and methane locked up in permafrost and methane hydrates begin to evaporate and go into the atmosphere. That might have created the greatest warming event in the past 500 million years. Statements like the one that she makes in that article are used in the Ronald Reagan and Rush Limbaugh School of Climate Science, where they teach that grass and trees cause pollution, and that capitalism and industry can do no wrong. The fact is the humans have reduced Earth's plant biomass by a third or so, and that liberated carbon dioxide back into the atmosphere. Reforestation would re-sequester that carbon, but the big problem is burning fossil fuels. Maybe the woman is not an idiot, but her article is the wrong article for the wrong time. If she is trying to say that planting trees may not halt global warming, OK, but debatable, but everybody in the argument knows that burning hydrocarbons is the big problem, and reforestation is only a band aid for global warming purposes (but vital in others), so articles like hers are used by the NYT and others for disinformation purposes.

    Yes, with FE, all such problems solved, almost overnight, and nearly everybody is in ignorance, denial, or fear. It is kind of surreal.

    One of my essay's purposes is to show how dramatically the face of Earth has changed over the eons, from a carbon dioxide atmosphere to an oxygenated one, from hothouse to icehouse conditions, as carbon dioxide levels have seesawed, with methane sometimes having knock-on effects, like they may soon once again. If people develop an understanding of those processes, they will not be vulnerable to the disinformation that comes from many directions.

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    On the subject of in-group/outgroup psychology, I found an article earlier today that had some pretty interesting insights.

    It dovetails with the observation made here and elsewhere that certain presentient aspects of our conditioning haven't actually changed all that much. Recently I've also been thinking about how it's very seductive for me to want to fall into the trap of thinking I'm better, more special, more enlightened than others for being open minded to FE, it's epochal significance and suppression. A more sobering thought however is that this is the kind of scarcity based thinking that ultimately interferes with making FE manifest.

    Condemning in-group/outgroup thinking in oneself or others doesn't seem to do much good, it can't be fully removed that way, only recognized and dealt with. The best approach is to forgive others and oneself, and that's much harder...

    Quote In Chesterton’s The Secret of Father Brown, a beloved nobleman who murdered his good-for-nothing brother in a duel thirty years ago returns to his hometown wracked by guilt. All the townspeople want to forgive him immediately, and they mock the titular priest for only being willing to give a measured forgiveness conditional on penance and self-reflection. They lecture the priest on the virtues of charity and compassion.

    Later, it comes out that the beloved nobleman did not in fact kill his good-for-nothing brother. The good-for-nothing brother killed the beloved nobleman (and stole his identity). Now the townspeople want to see him lynched or burned alive, and it is only the priest who – consistently – offers a measured forgiveness conditional on penance and self-reflection.

    The priest tells them:

    It seems to me that you only pardon the sins that you don’t really think sinful. You only forgive criminals when they commit what you don’t regard as crimes, but rather as conventions. You forgive a conventional duel just as you forgive a conventional divorce. You forgive because there isn’t anything to be forgiven.

    He further notes that this is why the townspeople can self-righteously consider themselves more compassionate and forgiving than he is. Actual forgiveness, the kind the priest needs to cultivate to forgive evildoers, is really really hard. The fake forgiveness the townspeople use to forgive the people they like is really easy, so they get to boast not only of their forgiving nature, but of how much nicer they are than those mean old priests who find forgiveness difficult and want penance along with it.
    Quote Compare the Nazis to the German Jews and to the Japanese. The Nazis were very similar to the German Jews: they looked the same, spoke the same language, came from a similar culture. The Nazis were totally different from the Japanese: different race, different language, vast cultural gap. But although one could imagine certain situations in which the Nazis treated the Japanese as an outgroup, in practice they got along pretty well. Heck, the Nazis were actually moderately friendly with the Chinese, even when they were technically at war. Meanwhile, the conflict between the Nazis and the German Jews – some of whom didn’t even realize they were anything other than German until they checked their grandparents’ birth certificate – is the stuff of history and nightmares. Any theory of outgroupishness that naively assumes the Nazis’ natural outgroup is Japanese or Chinese people will be totally inadequate.

    And this isn’t a weird exception. Freud spoke of the narcissism of small differences, saying that “it is precisely communities with adjoining territories, and related to each other in other ways as well, who are engaged in constant feuds and ridiculing each other”. Nazis and German Jews. Northern Irish Protestants and Northern Irish Catholics. Hutus and Tutsis. South African whites and South African blacks. Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs. Anyone in the former Yugoslavia and anyone else in the former Yugoslavia.

    So what makes an outgroup? Proximity plus small differences. If you want to know who someone in former Yugoslavia hates, don’t look at the Indonesians or the Zulus or the Tibetans or anyone else distant and exotic. Find the Yugoslavian ethnicity that lives closely intermingled with them and is most conspicuously similar to them, and chances are you’ll find the one who they have eight hundred years of seething hatred toward.
    http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30...-the-outgroup/

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    Thanks Enishi:

    We are all experts at judging others. Giving up judgment is no easy trick. What I have found is that an out-group is generally made of economic competitors. When there is plenty, so-called out-groups are treated with tolerance (relative! ), but when times get hard, the out-group then gets the short end of the stick. It was not rich ex-planation owners who lynched blacks in the South, but poor whites, who were taking it out on their closest economic competitors.

    That article's red and blue tribe group-ism is along those lines. That tolerance for the out-group is similar to what Chomsky said about free speech, which is approximately: "If you so not support free speech for people whose views you despise, then you do not support free speech."

    A great example of how closely related reviled out-groups are is the aftermath of the Golden Age of the Hunter Gatherer in Australia and the Americas. For thousands of years in aggregate, the small groups of people who invaded those "virgin" continents could kill their meals effortlessly, and even became something like sedentary populations, similar to the short-lived mammoth villages of Eurasia. What seems to have happened, and Australia is the classic instance of it, is that the easy meat led to population growth and easy living, and when the population reached its social limits (200-300 people), it split along territorial lines, and that kept happening, from an Australian founder group of what was likely only a few hundred people. They were all closely related. Then when all the easy meat was gone, territorial boundaries became rigid, and Australia had about 600 tribes of about 500-1,000 people in each of them, and to stray outside of one's territory meant death. All tribes were in constant war with their neighbors, and as they never domesticated any plants they were all patrilocal, which are the most violent societies.

    I am currently reading the most scholarly account of the de Soto entrada into the American Southeast (Charles Hudson's Knights of Spain, Warriors of the Sun), and reading about the endemic warfare between the Mississippian culture's polities. They were horticultural societies for probably millennia, so were largely matrilineal, but when they began large-scale corn cultivation, they began the ascent to urbanity (Cahokia was a city), "big men" made their inevitable ascent, and chief-run polities were the norm (with monumental architecture in the form of earthen mounds – not a lot of great stone to work with), and everybody battled their neighbors.

    So, the people they judged and hated the most were their neighbors, and they were closely related, all cousins. When there is scarcity and economic competition, people need some way to justify beating the competition, so in-group/out-group ideologies are born. The way that the USA became so "tolerant" was that history's richest continent was stolen from its inhabitants, which coincided with the Industrial Revolution, and what became the USA was also rich in fossil fuels, so history's greatest economic wave was ridden. Even so, there were some very insular groups, such as the rural whites of Appalachia, and I have that redneck Scots-Irish heritage, and was surprised when some of those people tried to get me fired from my job, as I was from the out-group.

    The trick of what I am trying is for people to give up their in-group ideologies in an attempt to eliminate economic scarcity. Not many can do it, and Fuller found that the youth were better able to, as they had not drunk the Kool-Aid long enough. I recall seeing a tolerance survey a generation ago, when Americans had become "enlightened" about race and sex, which found that the people were just as intolerant as ever, but just found new targets of their intolerance.

    On an unrelated note, I am being asked these days to comment on a current controversy in the USA over measles vaccination. It is a big subject that I could write about for days, but here is the relatively short version.

    One of the classic "dictator" quotes is, "Everything not compulsory is forbidden." Amazingly, I see that principle at work all the time in the USA, The Land of the Free, and the medical racket is one poignant place where I see that principle play out. Any cancer treatment that does not attack the tumor is outlawed. Fluoridation is compulsory medicine. The fluoride ion is a highly dangerous hazardous waste that attacks the hydrogen bonds that hold enzymes and DNA together, and fluoride polluters accomplished an Orwellian makeover from hazardous waste to a tooth's best friend, while there is absolutely no credible data that shows that fluoridation is safe and effective. And who is the supposed beneficiary of this compulsory "medicine" for the masses? A child's tooth. The evil around that situation is hard to look at for long, and the public, the very people who imbibe that brain-destroying poison each day, are oblivious.

    Vaccination is similar. Measles is a non-fatal childhood disease. I had it, along with chicken pox and mumps, as did everybody I knew. By the 1970s, nobody was dying from measles, when the vaccine was introduced. There is no evidence that vaccination had anything to do with vanquishing tuberculosis, polio, and even smallpox. Improvements in sanitation and nutrition were the primary causes. Today, I am seeing articles like this on today's measles debate. Vaccination is actually a leading cause of infant death, and as you can see in that article, they are trying to vaccinate infants in the maternity wards against diseases that are not even remotely threatening. Incredibly, to this day, mercury is in vaccines, and even mercury was considered medicine in my lifetime. It is mind-boggling.

    While there is no escaping fluoridation in the USA, vaccination at least can be chosen, but there is a campaign in the USA today to criminalize refusal to take a vaccine for a disease that is harmless. How crazy is that?

    As readers of my work know, there is an entirely different paradigm of biology and disease that predates Pasteur's germ theory of disease, and the findings of microscopes that attain "impossible" resolutions have been clearly pointing to that other paradigm. But the results have been ruthlessly suppressed, and the first microscopic pioneer was wiped out by the same man who made health claims for asbestos cigarette filters and led the "War on Quacks."

    There are conspiratorial musings on fluoridation and brain damage. The damage is real, but the conscious intent is harder to prove. Similarly, there are many conspiratorial musings on compulsory vaccination being part of a campaign to remove our remaining civil rights. One of my mottoes is that when greed and groupthink can explain a phenomenon, that is probably enough, without having to invoke sinister conspiracies. What I have found is that there are sinister conspiracies, but they align well with greed and groupthink, so they kind of slither through undetected.

    In all such situations, the only solution is to wake up and stop playing the lemming, but when less than 1% of the population is the slightest bit awake, it is not easy to buck the herd, especially when they incarcerate the disobedient.

    Of course, with FE, all such greedy schemes fall apart, as in a world of abundance, financial leverage can no longer be used to herd the masses. That loss of control is what Godzilla fears the most.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hey Wade and friends!

    Got a geological sort of curiosity thing that has been in my head for a little while now.

    I've been pondering the whole "pole shift/pole reversal" subject. I know it has begun and seems to have sped up a little over the past few decades, and I've seen some diagrams that plotted the location of magnetic north in relation to time over the past century, and if it continues, there's no doubt some crazy stuff is gonna be taking place as things progress more and more.

    One thing I was wondering about, that I thought you or some of the other followers of this thread might have some insight about, has to do with the rotation of the planet. The axis.

    Did the tips of the rotational axis ever match up with the magnetic poles? Magnetic north is determined by the direction of the spin of the earth's core, isn't it? I'm wondering, if, due to rotational torques involved, if we can expect the magnetic pole reversal to affect the axis of our rotation? Both temporarily and permanently. Could the sun one day rise in the south and set in the north?

    It's not exactly a question related to the choir effort, perhaps, but as I was reading some more of the big essay, I keep coming back to that fascinating phenomenon that's taking place as we speak.

    Just curious.
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    Hi Seeker:

    A guy named Charles Hapgood wrote a book on physical pole shifts, but it was before plate tectonics became a science, and explained apparent pole shifting. His theory was popular in Velikovskian circles, and I spent time digesting the work, but I don’t buy it. Antarctica has not moved much in 500 million years, and its ice sheets are 35 million years old or so.

    Magnetic pole shifts are another animal, and the magnetic poles are caused how you note. Magnetic reversals do not seem to have any ecosystems impacts, nor do they seem to have any impact on Earth's rotational axis. They can mess up compass reading of maps, however. The magnetic pole has been actively wandering lately. The magnetic poles reverse about every half million years, and the last one happened nearly 800,000 years ago, so maybe we are due. If the next one happens on our watch, it should be interesting stuff, but I do not put much stock in the apocalyptic notions related to it. I think that the Sun will come up where it always has (always, meaning in human history).

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    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    There are conspiratorial musings on fluoridation and brain damage. The damage is real, but the conscious intent is harder to prove. Similarly, there are many conspiratorial musings on compulsory vaccination being part of a campaign to remove our remaining civil rights. One of my mottoes is that when greed and groupthink can explain a phenomenon, that is probably enough, without having to invoke sinister conspiracies. What I have found is that there are sinister conspiracies, but they align well with greed and groupthink, so they kind of slither through undetected.

    What you said there reminded me of a line from your energy essay.

    "During my first day of organic chemistry class, the professor observed that because the primary use of hydrocarbons was burning them to fuel the industrial age, we were living in “the age of waste,” as hydrocarbons are a treasure trove of raw materials. In the eyes of an organic chemist, burning fossil hydrocarbons to fuel our industrial world is like making Einstein dig ditches or making Pavarotti wash dishes for a living."

    When I read that, I thought to myself, perhaps there is more to our addiction with hydrocarbons as fuel than just greed and groupthink. Part of me wonders if something else is slithering through undetected there. Seems like the more I learn on Avalon, the more I tend to look for hidden purposes behind everything that's going on around the world these days.

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    Hi:

    Oh, I forgot that today is President's Day, celebrating good ol' George and Abe! George's genocidal intentions toward all Native Americans is a classic out-group treatment. They had something George wanted: their land.

    Today, I was reminded once more of one of the perils of the FE pursuit, which I have not listed in recent days: conspiracism. I have seen this one destroy people and those around them. As I have written many times, almost nobody has a balanced reaction to the idea of FE, with denial and fear the two most common reactions, but if they get past their initial denial and fear, then they have other levels of denial and fear to negotiate. The biggest lesson to learn is that the greatest threat that you face if you embark on the FE path comes from your social circle. Almost everybody refuses to believe that, until they get their own taste of it. And the reason is what I have written many times before: personal integrity is the world's scarcest commodity. It always comes back to that, in my experience.

    FE newcomers think that their social circle has the right stuff, and if they ever do anything productive in the FE milieu, they will realize their folly, if they survive the experience. Everything gets magnified a thousand-fold in the FE pursuit, because of its magnitude. Everything about today's world will change if FE makes its appearance, and even the dimmest among us realize it at some level. My work represents the end of the world as we know it, so nobody has a lukewarm reaction to it.

    FE aspirants almost always either deny that Godzilla is alive and vigilant (Levels 6 and 7), and for those who acknowledge him, they either admit defeat before they ever start (Level 8), think that they can defeat Godzilla in battle (Level 9), or think that they can whip up a stampede that tramples him (Level 10).

    None of those approaches have ever come close to working, and conspiracism and FE is a big subject that will take a few posts, and I am tired from today's hike, so until tomorrow…

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    Seeker, I just saw you post as I posted mine. Hold that thought! Conspiracists often see something that isn’t there, which is part of their problem. Think of it like the scientific process. We all can look at the data points out there and concoct our theories, but then comes the testing against the evidence. Most conspiracists do not do that part, but fly off into paranoia, snap judgments, and the like. Again, this is big subject, and I will deal with it in coming days. It is OK to search for deeper meaning, but conspiracists have to stop thinking like victims if they are going to get anywhere. A series of posts is going to explore real-world examples, largely from my journey.

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    OK, on to conspiracism.

    In Seattle, three months after I started at Dennis's company, my boss was the inside man in a conspiracy to steal Dennis's company, which worked. The ringleaders were Mormon grifters who stole Mr. Financier's company a couple of weeks before they stole Dennis's. Our company was full of Mormons when it was stolen, but I was friends with one of them, and he was not part of it. Was the entire operation directed by the Mormon financial empire, which was the most prominent player among the GCs? Beats me. The inside man hit man in Ventura was also a Mormon. Coincidence?

    The electric companies (the Mormon Church was a big investor, as Dennis later discovered) publicly called for "investigation" and prosecution of Dennis's company, which then happened. One does not need to connect many dots to see the "conspiracy" there, and when an electric company (BPA, a federal agency) official admitted that they all laid awake at night, thinking of Dennis, you wonder what all they did. That same agency employed the inside man hit man in Seattle, who was responsible for the death of one of Dennis's employees, who later attacked Dennis after he changed costumes and became a "noted Tesla researcher," and is a hit man for the medical racket today.

    When did the BPA Hit Man begin working for the GCs? Was it at the beginning of his "career," as he fabricated his fake alternative energy credentials? Was it only after his fine performance in Seattle? I don’t know.

    What I do know is that the GCs made their first overture to Dennis in Boston, a couple of months after we began making waves there, with their innocuous friendly buyout offer. When they added a couple of zeroes a year later, when we were flying high, then they unmasked themselves enough so that Dennis knew that he had their attention. Whom did those deputies steal our technical material for? A month after Dennis rejected the GCs' "offer," he found himself in jail with a million dollar bail, and only Mr. Professor's and my heroics saved Dennis from a short life behind bars. Even then, they still were able to kangaroo Dennis into prison (for not filing a form), and the prison officials repeatedly set him up to be murdered in prison, and Dennis got "lucky," with only some fingers broken and teeth knocked out.

    So, how many of those activities were related, in a conspiratorial sense?

    One of my awakening moments was watching several interests fight over the carcass of Dennis's company. The BPA Hit Man left his dupes holding the bag, and my boss and his cronies got the phony bankruptcy suit dismissed (which the courts were definitely in on). What all was happening behind the scenes? I'll probably never know, and I am not sure it is important.

    What was important for my education was seeing how everybody played along. When the employees cheered as Dennis's company was stolen, it was my first big awakening moment. When Mr. Texas made his play in Ventura, and Mr. Engineer and Mr. Researcher signed up with him, I initially could not believe it. Mr. Engineer saw what happened in Seattle, and I could smell Mr. Texas's play from a mile away. But Mr. Texas waved the promise of employment under Mr. Engineer's nose, and Mr. Engineer played the dupe. His going to work for Mr. Texas in ways was the beginning of the wrecking of my life, which I may be able to publicly disclose one day.

    So, conspiracies swirled around us as people made their plays. Mr. Engineer could not see what cutthroats he was getting into bed with, but Mr. Professor did the opposite and suspected somebody in our organization, a former sheriff's deputy, and Mr. Professor actually had a hand in the man's premature and violent death. Mr. Professor's conspiratorial paranoia actually contributed to somebody's death, and Mr. Engineer's conspiratorial denial and naïveté helped wreck my life.

    Denial of conspiracies can be foolish and even deadly, but so can conspiratorial paranoia. What I found was that when people began obsessing on the "conspiratorial" aspects of events, they usually began concocting fantasy scenarios and then treated them as if they were real, and even acted on their fantasies. Crazy, crazy. To this day, people accuse me of being part of some conspiracy, and some recently committed a crime, convinced of the conspiratorial nature of my public work.

    Several years ago, a young man wanted to talk to me about FE, and just a few conversations sent him into a rubber room. I have watched people lose their sanity in this milieu, and they often lost their sanity as they attacked me. You need to have both feet firmly on the ground to navigate Wade's World, but few can manage it.

    I also regularly get people who try to see "behind the scenes" with me, such as if my work is channeled, was I part of some government spook program, and so on. I certainly admit to a journey that somebody helped manage, and I fully realize how preposterous my journey can seem, but I am a "what you see is what you get" person, and people who look for all of that ulterior stuff are really missing the boat. All of that ulterior and conspiratorial stuff is kind of meaningless, and will not be able to stand in the light of people acting with integrity, which is what my choir idea is all about. I know that I won’t find anybody else like Dennis, but that is not my goal.

    What I found with those obsessed on the conspiratorial aspects of life is that they were just finding another way to play the victim game and act without integrity. If you begin to play the FE game and reach any level of success, then you will come onto Godzilla's radar. It just comes with the territory. Denying it can be deadly foolishness, but obsessing on it leads to self-destruction. I treat Godzilla like the weather. I can't fight him, I can’t negotiate with him, I seek shelter when the storm comes, and I do not taunt the thunderstorm. I respect it for what it is and go about my business. Dennis kept climbing to the highest peak, almost taunting the lightning, and he has lived a life of surviving lightning strikes. That is one way to do it. I am trying something different, however. Dennis believes that he is doing God's work, and that provides a certain level of protection, and I'll not deny it. I have heard the guiding voice, too, but do not want to hear from it again.

    As I mentioned last night, conspiracy theorizing can really be a quick road to delusional states. A little imagination is OK, but it needs to be tempered with the real world. Yes, conspiracies of a global nature exist. Have no doubt about it, but all that each of us can do is stop dancing to the tune being played. Almost nobody on Earth has the integrity to do that, but those are the people I seek. The choir's song will not be about Godzilla, but about the kind of world we can have if only a relative handful of us manifested some integrity and sentience. It won't take many, on a global basis. Those conspiracies are really not very powerful, which is why they have to hide like they do.

    I may write more on conspiracism later, but the above is the gist of what I have to say.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Here is some more on conspiratorial events and conspiracism, from events in my life. Ever since Mr. Professor and I busted Dennis out of jail, Dennis tried to get me to go back to work with him. I refused. My life was wrecked, I was about to begin a new one in Ohio, with my new wife and putting her through grad school, and digging out of the debt that I went into to bust him out of jail. There was also a lot more going on than I can publicly disclose, but it is sufficient to say that my life was wrecked and I did not see how the approach we took was going to work, no matter how ingenious and courageous Dennis was. He did not have enough people around him with the right stuff. After the nucleus of his wife, Mr. Professor, and me, the list got real short. While a handful of people began something that made for some interesting days at the office for Godzilla, a handful of people were pretty easy to take out, and our "allies" did most of Godzilla's work for him.

    In early 1992, Dennis flew me to Las Vegas to a conference he put together for his "Madison Avenue" approach to FE, and I had one of those Twilight Zone experiences when one of the conference speakers' employees inadvertently showed me his plan to hijack Dennis's organization. Later that year, as Dennis began to get momentum again, his plea bargain was violated by the courts all the way to the USA's Supreme Court, went through the process in record time, Dennis found himself behind bars again, and prison officials repeatedly set him up to be murdered by the inmates. Coincidence? I doubt it.

    I flew Dennis home from prison, and he stayed pretty quiet for the next year while he was on parole. Once he got off parole, he began making waves again, and they illegally put him back on parole, in one of the many maneuvers by the legal system where his lawyers would say, "They can't do that!" Coincidence? I doubt it.

    My five-year stint as a trucking company controller wore me out, and by early 1996, I was a pile of frayed nerves. Just then, as I was put on Prozac (a nightmare experience), Dennis began his speaking tours, which culminated in the largest FE gathering in world history. He flew me to New Jersey to meet with his wife, to help them get their accounting systems set up. His daughters had grown from waist-high children to young women, and it was nice hanging out with Dennis's wife. My wife was finished with grad school and was a licensed professional, and I was planning to take two years off to write a book. It would have been an embryonic version of my site today. I had the notion of writing a book for several years, before I abandoned it and decided to only put my writings online, as the Internet blossomed.

    I was at that big FE show, and Dennis finally coaxed me to come back to work with him. I had gone off of anti-depressants by that time, but still drank like a fish and was really in no shape to sign back on with something like his program, but I joined back up with him in November 1996. I spent my first stint in the hotel room that Dennis bought for Yull Brown, but Yull did not stay there, and Yull began acting crazy.

    As the controller, all the bills came through me, and after being there a couple of weeks, my accounts payable clerk handed me a letter from our telephone company. Back when Dennis began his speaking tours in the spring of 1996, the Justice Department subpoenaed our phone records and gagged the phone company from informing us. It was a 90-day gag order. When the 90 days was up, they renewed the gag order, and when the second one expired, our phone company was then free to tell us that our records had been subpoenaed. In The Land of the Free. Today, in these neo-Orwellian times, I think that if the phone companies ever disclose that activity, they are subject to punitive action from the feds. When I read that letter, it brought back memories of the sharks circling. Again, I should not have been there.

    A lot was happening in those days. Mr. Skeptic set up shop the day after the big FE show and we took Yull to the White House, where he met with Al Gore and got to hear how much Bill Clinton hated Dennis. Soon before I joined up, Dennis was approached by a group of Christian businessmen, who alleged that they were trustees of a trust with more than one trillion dollars in assets. They said that their money (more than $20 billion) had been tied up by the American banking system after they gave a billion dollars of food and supplies to the Soviet military, as the Soviet Union was collapsing. I saw a news clip from a Canadian TV show on their "gift" to the Soviet military. I spoke with their trustee several times, and it was hard to know what to make of it. We were actually giving them money, as they claimed that all of their money was frozen.

    Just after I joined, we were approached by some American Indian tribes, who said that they prayed for guidance and were told by the Great Spirit that Dennis was their hope for global healing. They said that they wanted to give us billions of dollars, like that Christian trust did, and they were using their sovereign nation status to play the bank debenture game. They were being advised by a man who told Dennis that he was the sixth most powerful man in the world, and Dennis met with that man and his entourage in his palatial penthouse office in Manhattan. It was all very bizarre to me, and I asked my CPA and CFO friends if they had ever heard of any of the situations that we were encountering, but nobody ever had. Dennis asked the Indians about those Christians, and they said that they checked out.

    Dennis's big play at the time was going after the nuclear waste remediation situation with Brown's Gas, and he and I spoke at DOE hearings about it, in early 1997. My stay with Dennis that time did not last long, and he let me go home to Seattle, where I met him, in the spring of 1997. I then embarked on the study and writing that resulted in my website, largely as you see it today. I do not plan to ever leave Seattle, or at least Washington.

    In 1998, Richard Hoagland held a conference in Seattle, which Tom Bearden spoke at, and I attended. When Tom spoke, somebody asked him to speak of FE suppression, and he told a story of how a sting operation nearly nabbed him. I spoke with him briefly after the conference, and wanted to hear more about FE suppression, but he did not want to talk. If he had, it would not have taken me ten years to figure out that those Christians and Indians were very likely part of a sting operation designed to entrap us. I later heard that the MO of FE suppression in the 1990s was through financial means, playing like FE benefactors but in reality seeking to destroy the effort, with the usual inside/outside job, and kangarooing the targets into prison by using the authorities was part of the MO. I had to get my passport renewed, as Dennis wanted me to travel and be his representative abroad for the deals. One was going down in London, as I recall. If I had done that, I would very likely have landed in prison, maybe even a foreign prison. Again, I did not figure it out until 2008 during the financial collapse, as I poked back into what those Christians and Indians were doing, and they were the classic scams of the 1990s. When I realized what we had gotten wrapped into, I thanked my lucky stars that crazy Yull blew the deals apart that Dennis was negotiating, and I just want to live a quiet life from here on out. Of course, my choir work will complicate matters, but I can do it without risking my life, I hope!

    Were those Indians and Christians part of some sting operation that had Justice Department involvement? I would not bet against it, but who can say for sure? What is certain is that the Christians and Indians were not legit. The Christians alleged huge gold holdings (which may have been Yama****a's Gold - ah, Avalon's profanity censor is wrecking the link to the Wikipedia article, but it was a Japanese general who allegedly hid loot in the Philippines during World War II), but we got ahold of some of it and it was fake.

    How crazy is all that? That is what you run into when you play at the high levels, and I decided that I did not have the right stuff to play it. Getting kangarooed into prison is not on my list of experiences that I want to have.

    Bearden himself makes many blunders in his presentations, and some wonder if it is intentional and whether he works for Godzilla in some capacity. I know that Sparky Sweet was the real deal, as did Brian and one of my close associates, and Tom was involved with Sparky, but for me, when Tom told his sting story, and a decade later I realized that we were subject to an almost identical sting operation around the same time, I gained a lot more respect for Tom.

    How many "conspiratorial" connections are in the above narrative? Beats me. Some are obvious, some more subtle, and some could just be a kind of convergent evolution of how dishonesty plays out. I think it likely that Mr. Skeptic was on the payroll, especially with how he folded his tents after Dennis was run out of the country. I doubt that Tom is on the payroll, I am pretty sure that the Christians and Indians were part of a scam operation and that we were likely targeted for a sting, as Godzilla took the game to new levels. If not, it is another example of how we do most of Godzilla's work for him. Lots of dots there, and not too difficult to connect many of them, but I have watched people go off the deep end when encountering stuff with about a trillionth of the importance that FE has, as they connect dots with little plausible connection and concoct crazy scenarios in their psychotic states. Again, the FE pursuit is not for the faint of heart or those whose feet are not firmly planted on the ground.

    The reason why the sting operation did not work on us was primarily because we were too honest and worldly. If people act with integrity, the dark path tactics do not work, unless they just start killing people, but even then it does not always work. Dennis has survived numerous murder attempts and situations that he should not have survived, and more on that later.

    I have been subjected to many crazy "conspiracy theory" allegations, and even lately. I am afraid that it comes with the territory. Conspiracism is a diseased mindset.

    More coming later.

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    Hi:

    A little more on conspiracism and conspiratorial events. I had been quiet on the activist front for several years when Brian invited me to California to hang out with him. The impetus for it was my co-discovery of the footage of Neil Armstrong leaping off of the lunar surface back to the LM, but probably more importantly, I reported that none of the evidence for faked moon landings survived my scrutiny, as far as it pointing to fakery. Brian was impressed, but I never quite got him over the hump. If he had done the work, he would have, but he understandably had bigger issues on his plate. I published what truly became his last word on the issue.

    As we traded notes, Brian told me how his ride as the Paul Revere of FE went, as he openly wondered if humanity was a sentient species. I told him about the exotic technology show that a close friend in the FE field received, but Brian seemed more interested in the story of my close relative who was a CIA contract agent who worked for a household name diplomat. Brian also told me of his brush with death when he poked his nose into the UFO situation, courtesy of the USA's military. Either just before or just after I saw Brian, I was helping take the FBI's heat off of Ralph McGehee, and the next month, 9/11 happened, and Ralph pretty much dropped out of sight, understandably.

    Of course, 9/11 is the mother of all conspiracy theories, and I saw many people go off the deep end on it. A man who helped me break Dennis out of jail knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was not John Kennedy's assassin a few weeks after the assassination. John Kennedy was killed in a conspiracy and cover-up that had government complicity at minimum. You can take that to the bank. But as with 9/11, there has been a three-ring circus around the JFK assassination for more than 50 years. A similar three-ring circus is around the UFO milieu, and in all instances, that three-ring circus atmosphere likely has complicity from high levels, as such an atmosphere helps dissuade serious consideration of the issue.

    But when trading notes with fellow travelers such as Brian, we were mostly telling of our experiences, or those in our close circles, not spinning grand yarns with little evidence for them, with lots of dot-connections. While with Brian at the state capitol, I also met Mark, whose story is not too unusual in this milieu. After hanging out with Brian, I kept working on my site, and finished it a year later. The next year, Brian asked me to co-found the New Energy Movement. I resumed my career the next month, and funded NEM for its first year. At our third board meeting, in May 2004, we began planning the conference that we hosted in September, and most of the board knew Eugene Mallove, and he was the first speaker who committed for the conference. That next week was an emotionally strange one, and at the end of it, Brian thanked me for helping hold it together, and Brian thought that we might be under surreptitious attack. As Brian wrote me those words, the police were discovering Mallove's murdered corpse. That was the beginning of the end of Brian's involvement in NEM, but I quit before Brian was kind of booted out of it. Mallove's murder spooked Brian, who immediately began planning his move to South America. He was kind of AWOL as we planned the NEM conference. I wanted to quit before the conference, but Brian begged me to stay, and I quit the day after the conference, but still kept funding them. That was the last mass movement FE effort that I will ever be involved with. They don't work, primarily because the people involved with them do not have the right stuff, not for playing the FE game.

    Was Brian being unreasonably paranoid by moving to South America after Mallove was murdered? Not in my view. One thing that you learn, unfortunately, in the FE suppression milieu, is that untimely deaths of the high level players is a common affliction. I cannot publicly divulge a lot of what I have heard, but when I heard enough tales, either from the direct participants (i.e., "targets") or from those in my close circles who knew the participants (that close circle is less than 20 people, as far as the FE milieu goes, and I do not have contact with many of them anymore (some are dead, kind of in hiding, etc.)), is that when Godzilla marks you for death, his hits are not like when the mob hits you. Dennis has survived both mob and Godzilla hits, and when the mob hits you, everybody knows it was the mob, and the mob wants it that way, to "send a message." When Godzilla hits you, especially if you are playing the FE game, he goes to great lengths to make it appear to be something other than murder by Godzilla. His resources and bag of tricks are insanely deep, and probably no seemingly "innocuous" death is beyond his ability to stage.

    How do you protect yourself from that? Well, because it is more important to look like something else than it is to be successful with any one hit attempt, quick thinking and acting (as well as acts of divine intervention) have seen the targets survive the first blow, and that was usually enough to make the assassins retreat, to try again another day, as surviving the first blow is enough to make any "unfortunate, random death" scenario look shaky. The target is not going anywhere, so the assassins can try again at their leisure, in order to "get it right." This is partly why some of the biggest FE names have survived multiple murder attempts.

    I try to play the game at a low enough level so that I do not make the hit list. Also, there are "white hats," probably both physical and of the angelic kind, that have intervened at times, but I sure am not relying on them to save the day.

    This is a reality that all FE aspirants have to deal with, if they ever do anything productive. But the general public almost never engages that situation with anything resembling a mature and thoughtful perspective. Many get titillated, as if they were watching some kind of James Bond movie. The "skeptics" go into overdrive to dismiss it all as paranoid fantasy, and naïve and lazy-minded scientists listen to them. Where are the people with the right stuff, who are not in ignorance, denial, fear, paranoia, naïveté, and the rest? They are needles in haystacks, as I discovered over my journey. But I seek them, and am using this new tool called the Internet to find them.

    The Kinks sang, "Paranoia, they destroy ya."

    I am not through with the conspiratorial posts. Maybe one more or so.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Another round on conspiracies and conspiracism. Maybe my last one. You can look at the FDA's fraud, such as in this article, as institutional failure, conspiracy, or both. There is a lot of that.

    When I saw Dennis in 2013, I was kind of his captive audience for a couple of days, as he told me about his life over the previous several years. Detroit has suppressed high MPG carburetors for nearly a century. It is no urban legend. Dennis was just the latest in a long line of people who have developed high-MPG technology. In Dennis's instance, the sitting president's energy advisor was a big fan of Dennis's, and he was arranging an eve-of-the-election demonstration of Dennis's technology, and Dennis's inviting me to it was the last straw for my midlife crisis.

    Dennis was working with one of Detroit's auto companies (I’ll give you three guesses ), and the CEO was even publicly mentioning Dennis's technology and they were testing dozens of Dennis's devices, and Dennis ran a full-page ad in USA Today. Before the ad even ran, one of the biggest names in conspiratorial circles, who far outranks American presidents, called Dennis at home, asking him what the hell he thought he was doing. Before long, the auto company began disavowing any knowledge of Dennis's existence, the FTC attacked, and Dennis was finally run out of the country. In The Land of the Free.

    As in other situations, you do not have to draw very many connections between the dots there. Dennis has been targeted numerous times by undeniable conspiracies, and the pattern was always a government/media attack that was performed on behalf of private interests, as they got rid of the competition. What happened in Seattle was blatant in that regard, and Dennis got his first open overture from Godzilla just before the officials lowered the boom on us in Ventura.

    Dennis often has a conspiratorial mindset, but for good reason. But when he would tell me how he was treated by California's legal system, kangarooed into prison and put in position to be murdered by prison officials, I noted that only a few people would have been in on it, and the rest were just "doing their jobs" in an evil system. Mr. Investigator was not part of the "conspiracy" as such, but the system rewarded him for convictions, and nobody cared if he lied to do it. He simply did not care if people were innocent or not. It is similar to that banality of evil comment about Eichmann. In fact, one person whose conscience woke up while bludgeoning Dennis actually defended herself to Dennis with Eichmann's defense. So, while they may have been part of a conspiracy, it was not like it was cloak-and-dagger on their parts, but just following orders and not caring if they ruined and even ended lives. Again, the USA and Nazi Germany are not so different, although Hitler's Germany was supposedly the ultimate in evil. Heck, the CIA was built on Nazis, and death camp Nazis worked for Disney, making children's shows and writing children's books.

    The conspiratorial aspect of events is important, but most of the dirty work is done by people "just doing their jobs." The system is so inherently evil that it does not take much manipulation for it to do the bidding of conspiratorial interests. The big problem is people's allegiance to evil systems, because they feed them. That is just like their allegiance to scarcity-based ideologies.

    I'll end this post with a comment on my current reading of the de Soto expedition. This is far from the first time that I read about the expedition. Back in the 1990s, I read David Ewing Duncan’s Hernando de Soto, A Savage Quest in the Americas, and Hudson's masterpiece came out a couple of years after Duncan's. Similar to the conquest of the Aztecs or Incas, or what happened in the Caribbean, the Spanish enterprise was evil from beginning to end, with absolutely no redeeming qualities. When reading the accounts, the authors deal with the Spanish practices, such as feeding people to their dogs because it was the only easy meat, or chaining the slaves at the necks and using them up so fast that they were always looking for new slaves for their collars. The authors mention the practices once or twice, and then move on to other matters. But as you read the accounts, you could tell that feeding living people to dogs was a daily occurrence, and working and starving slaves to death was just a normal day (the dogs got them, too), and killing natives they encountered was an almost daily affair. And when they moved on, looking for more loot, they left behind devastated peoples who soon disappeared from the face of the Earth, and all sorts of landmarks in the USA are named for de Soto, and many look at him as some kind of hero. Incredible. Again, what is the difference between that and naming towns in Poland Hitlerville or something similar, if the Germans had prevailed? None of any significance that I can see.

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    Wade,

    I would like to demonstrate my personal scarcity:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi7eMnDEpfg

    Some folks would say that that is krazy and of course they are right...

    My particular motivation as an ultra cyclist was a 64 mile per day commute and of course with an extremely demanding job that would mean 320 plus miles per week upon a bicycle with that demanding job...

    add the GEBE motor kit and ....no problema...as it were...

    So I built one of those bikes. It gets 230 plus miles per and it scoots along at 22 mph plus all day....

    And made a 300 plus mile weekly commute a blast and easy for a year till I called it quits....no car purchased...no insurance....

    Of course some BS but it still was a blast....

    And we have production BMW's that get more at 100 mph....humm....

    America is the land of Bulsh@t....

    When looking at slavery and the collar one thinks about how cheap human life was since the human slave did all the work and once a new energy source came about then that practice was curtailed.

    We look back at the practice as being immoral from our perspective 100 plus years from when humans did the work to a society where 99% of the work is done by machines powered by hydrocarbons...as it were...

    The guy in that vid we call the "Bam" guy and he is a cult hero in some certain circles...

    Normal folk would find them eccentric...

    I know what slavery is Wade:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8sTsfUJAK8

    My first job at USPS and it was costly for me with the physical problems that still plague me....

    17 keyers and a few sweepers in the back to sort the mail and it was like a Roman Galey....of sorts...

    Wonderful experience I must say...

    Slavery is slavery I guess...

    a matter of perspective...


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    Hi Nine:

    Yes, using humans like machines is essentially the slavery gig, except that nobody told you what do when the workday was finished. In my career, I eliminated human monkey jobs and replaced them with computers and analysts. Of course, in the computerized age, we are also replacing people's thinking abilities. Again, the crime in capitalism is not sharing the benefits. FE devices given away would end capitalism, partly because it would bring abundance, and partly because capitalism would not survive giving away history's most lucrative technology. Working with those mail sorting machines is partly why people went postal, right?

    Choir Q&A.

    Q: Wade, can you discuss evolution and intelligent design?

    A: Sure. That is a big subject. As I have written, I had my mystical awakening as a teenager, and had it vividly demonstrated that the materialistic models of consciousness are false. All of my FE fellow travelers also had mystical awakenings, and most of us were scientists or scientists-in-training, and that awakening wrecked scientific careers, such as Brian O's.

    I clearly recall in my first years of college witnessing the arguments between scientists and literalist Christians over evolution. Even then, I clearly recall that both sides of the argument really did not understand, as their arguments were not really about evolution, as such, but about the role that consciousness plays in the cosmos. However, the Christians were arguing for the literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis, and the scientists were arguing for materialism. Both camps were wrong, and it was like watching two different kinds of fundamentalists going at it.

    Darwin's idea of descent with modification is the bedrock of evolutionary theory and one of the most battle-tested theories in science. No scientist of any standing doubts descent with modification. Just how that modification happened is part of the argument with Creationists and even Intelligent Design, which in ways is only warmed-over Biblical literalism.

    Materialists aver that consciousness had no role to play in the universe until brains grew to certain sophistication. Even worms can learn, chimps and other animals can pass the mirror test, and drawing some kind of consciousness, even sentience, line has been a scientific predilection for a long time. In ways, it was just one more scarcity-based ideology that conferred elevated status to humans, and animal experiments are one of the evil outcomes of that mentality. In that regard, materialists and Bible Bangers were just two sides of the same coin.

    So, today's mainstream science, in a certain interpretation, can tell a very tidy story of beginnings and ends, of when consciousness began, what its source was, and how it ends. History's greatest scientists did not believe it for a second. Materialism is a faith built on assumptions, and when you witness and perform remote viewings, as Brian and I did, then the materialistic models of consciousness go flying out of the window, and we could no longer drink the Kool-Aid of materialistic, mechanistic science. There is one heck of a lot more going on than meets the eye.

    As I understand it, so-called Intelligent Design theory is largely designed to rehabilitate the Christian argument for the inerrancy of the Book of Genesis. Again, religious fundamentalists and materialists going at it really is a tawdry spectacle. Einstein believed that some kind of intelligence was being expressed through the workings of the universe, Schroedinger knew that science had nothing to say about where our consciousness came from or where it goes, and Heisenberg knew that science only had philosophical validity when it refrained from assuming that it knew more than it did. We still do not know what light, gravity, and magnetism are.

    After having my mystical awakening, I became quite the mystical student, and I know that the materialistic models of consciousness are false. I have the knowledge gained from experience, which is a treasure that no theory can take away. I do not claim to know the identity of the voice in my head that led me on my odyssey, but something far beyond my waking consciousness guided my life's key events, and it had a prescience and omniscience that I sure do not have. During my adventures, I witnessed and performed numerous demonstrations of the abilities of consciousness.

    What role does consciousness play in evolution? I am far from sure. Does consciousness guide mutations? There is evidence of it, but what does that mean? Most Intelligent Design arguments that I am aware of have some kind of outside intelligent intervention. I am far from convinced that that happens. It may be more like the organisms and their "souls" have some influence over their self-organization. But many of the key events in the evolutionary history of life on Earth appear to have happened only once. What was the role of consciousness in that? Beats me, and maybe it had no role at all, in the way that we think of it.

    To wax mystically for a moment, a common channeled understanding is that there are not dog and cat souls, or even human souls, but souls that choose to express themselves as dogs, cats, and people. I recall Seth once saying that when people look across today's Great Plains and see cattle instead of bison, they may not understand that there is a continuity of consciousness happening. Is the same consciousness that expressed through the bison expressing itself through the cattle, although perhaps evolved a little more? I do not pretend to know the answers, but I believe that the role of consciousness in evolution is likely far too subtle to be profitably engaged by battles between creationists (or today's Intelligent Design proponents) and materialists.

    I personally believe that everything in the universe is a manifestation of consciousness, and that the physical universe is only one of many, perhaps infinitely many, dimensions of reality. Can I prove that? No. But people can prove to themselves that the materialistic models of consciousness are false. People can also get satisfied that the stories in scripture are largely fairy tales. The Silva course used to be a good way to demonstrate the falsity of materialistic models of consciousness, but it is a shadow of its former self, and I am not sure that I can recommend it anymore. But for those who sincerely seek the experience, they will eventually get it and then some. But that knowledge does not come without its price. It ended Brian's career, and led me on my odyssey. I would not recommend my journey to anybody.

    So, Intelligent Design - what does it mean? If it means some guy in a white beard waving his hands and saying "Let there be light," I doubt it. If it means some kind of outside creator manipulating matter into life forms, I also have my doubts. If it means that the universe is a manifestation of some unfathomable consciousness, and that everything possesses some kind of consciousness, and that that consciousness may have had some influence over its evolution, I can buy that, although nobody has ever identified the mechanisms of how it operates. I can agree that somehow life on Earth is the result of a vast consciousness that sought to express itself in physical reality, differently from how a star manifested some form of consciousness, and that humanity is playing a highly specific role in that manifestation, probably to further develop their souls' consciousness. But hooking a coherent theory subject to scientific testing up to that is likely a long way off, if it is ever feasible.

    Enlightened scientists will state that scientific evolutionary investigation accounts for history and process, not intent, and is silent on the matter of consciousness and the role it might have played. That is a wise position to take, and demonstrates an awareness of the limits of today's mainstream science. But that does not make the fairy tales of organized religions accurate, either.

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    Been thinking some more about the quote from your organic chemistry prof.

    "Hydrocarbons are a treasure trove of raw materials."

    Think some of that treasure trove of raw materials could be useful for terraforming a desert? Or are notions about transforming deserts futile because they'd just be fighting against Earth's hydrological cycles?

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    Hi Seeker:

    The only "raw material" that deserts need is water. With FE, all deserts can become gardens. But if FE manifests with the help of a sentient choir, for instance, Earth's land masses will no longer form the basis of human welfare, so there is no need to terraform Earth. I would like to think that an enlightened humanity will partner with Earth and listen to her, and not impose our ideas of what Earth needs to be like. These people listened.

    Those raw materials in hydrocarbons are good for plastics and other materials. But I imagine that with FE and development of the exotic technologies under wraps, that something like Star Trek's replicators are feasible, if they are not already, so we probably won't need hydrocarbons, either. We can make whatever we need, and do not have to rob Earth to get it.

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    Hi:

    I finished with Charles Hudson's career-crowning masterpiece. He was an anthropologist by training, and was a proponent of historians and anthropologists working together, which reflected the increasing trend of multidisciplinary works in my lifetime. Scarcely a page goes by that Hudson is not remarking on the geology or ecosystems that de Soto's entrada tromped through.

    Hudson expended considerable effort to sketch the background of the European invaders as well as de Soto's background, and he also spent a great deal of effort to reconstruct just what kind of world de Soto's entrada preyed upon. He drew on geology, climate studies, pollen analysis, archeological digs, tree-ring analysis, and dug deeply into anthropological findings to portray the pre-Columbian world of Southeastern North America.

    Hudson noted ecosystems that have entirely vanished, such as the chestnut forests that fed ecosystems that supported large populations of deer, turkey, and bears. While the European ax and plow were devastating, the chestnut finally succumbed to a fungal disease brought over from Europe a century ago. Hudson noted other ecosystems for which their tattered remnants can be found, such as the canebrakes (which the Indians knew was the best land for growing corn) or the mangrove forests that terraformed Florida's Gulf Coast. He touched on many subjects that my big essay covers.

    Indians had domesticated plants in the Southeast for thousands of years, and their horticultural societies largely became matrilineal. Maize made its way from Mesoamerica perhaps a couple thousand years ago, but it was not until the Medieval Warming Period, beginning about 800 CE, that corn began being intensively cultivated, which led to a population "explosion" and the formation of quasi-urban environments. Cahokia was a genuine city, and the only one in pre-Columbian North America. When those "mound-building" Mississippian cultures formed, it was the usual situation of men dominating, claiming divine status or sanction, professions appeared including warriors, and the towns were palisaded, to discourage attacks from neighboring polities. "No-man's lands" separated the territories, and other attributes that anthropologists around the world know so well, going back to the first civilization.

    Even though it was a Stone Age civilization, Mississippian culture was not sustainable. The Indians did not yet learn to fertilize depleted soils (maize sapped the nitrogen), and they did not have domestic animals for manure and they did not use the night soil method of East Asia. They often abandoned villages as the soils became depleted and the wood in the vicinity was used up. The evidence is that the Mississippian culture began declining by 1300 when The Little Ice began. By 1350, mounds stopped being built, and by 1400 Cahokia had been abandoned (it began declining by 1250, after only a couple of centuries of resembling a city). A colder climate and droughts spelled the decline of the unsustainable Mississippian culture, and the de Soto expedition meant the end for many peoples of the Southeast, although the diseases they brought with them caused by far most of the damage.

    The peoples south of Florida's panhandle were more hunter-gatherers than the agricultural peoples of further north. The Narváez entrada had preyed on the Tampa Bay region a generation earlier, and the natives were well acquainted with greedy and murderous Spaniards, and they fled from or fought them from the beginning. The de Soto entrada slaughtered Indians early and often, and at least several thousand natives immediately died from Spanish violence and the rigors of slavery, including being used for dog food, and many thousands more died from starvation and privation as the entrada stole their food, destroyed their towns, and their societies unraveled. But the diseases they left behind thoroughly depopulated the region. A generation later, the Tristán de Luna entrada invaded and expected to prey on the same Indians that de Soto did and steal their food, but starvation was their constant companion, as they trudged through wilderness that previously hosted thriving societies. They encountered numerous peoples who said that they never recovered from de Soto's entrada.

    All the Spaniards wanted was gold, fame, and women to rape. Hudson was quite the scholar, and this is what he had to say about de Soto, who is history's only person to prominently participate in the initial raping of Central America, South America, and North America:


    "De Soto has generally been depicted as a hero in the popular culture of the United States. In his defense it could be said that he shows less savage cunning and vindictiveness than the Pizarros. But he was no less ambitious and greedy than they were, and he wished to be their equal. He wished to conquer and govern a portion of the New World comparable to Mexico and Peru. He was like most of his contemporaries in having no compunction about killing anyone whom he defined as an enemy, and when he thought it necessary, he had no apparent qualms about subjecting people to mutilation, torture, and horrible death."


    The horrors of the Spanish expedition aside, Hudson spent considerable effort to paint what life was like before the Spanish arrived. Unfortunately, warring neighbors were the norm, but I am sure that those lands would have been something to see. We can only imagine them, however.

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    ...Darwin's idea of descent with modification is the bedrock of evolutionary theory and one of the most battle-tested theories in science. No scientist of any standing doubts descent with modification. Just how that modification happened is part of the argument with Creationists and even Intelligent Design, which in ways is only warmed-over Biblical literalism... [...] ...As I understand it, so-called Intelligent Design theory is largely designed to rehabilitate the Christian argument for the inerrancy of the Book of Genesis. Again, religious fundamentalists and materialists going at it really is a tawdry spectacle...
    On Darwin - I heard it said again just the other day, that Darwin's overview (I'm not referring to his theory on descent with modification) had been misrepresented, and given its cultural popularity it's clear how this misinterpretation / misrepresentation has helped shape the views and politics of our modern world, with competition taking unnecessary precedence over collaboration.

    I came across David Loye, an evolutionary systems scientist who claims that in Darwin's Descent of Man (which followed Origin of Species) Darwin writes only twice of survival of the fittest, but 95 times of love; 9 times of competition, but 24 times of mutuality and mutual aid. Loye posits that the prevalent focus on only a select part of Darwin's work (I'm guessing wilful or otherwise) has meant that for too long many have been the captives of either religious ignorance or a scientific half-truth.

    What he writes (quoted below) reflects his experience of how deeply he believes this semi-informed perspective has permeated the scientific / academic community.

    Quote “Some measure of how deep the hole in which the rest of Darwin was buried is the fact it took me a decade to gain the Ph.D. qualifying me to dig for it, another decade to begin to go beyond merely a glimpse here and there, and then another decade of struggling to express what I had found in a way that any but my closest scientific associates could begin to understand, appreciate— or believe.”
    http://www.thedarwinproject.com/revolution/book/dur.pdf

    Loye's books include the title Darwin's Lost Theory, and he claims (in the text linked to above) that what broader, deeper research into Darwin's work (and the man behind it) suggests is that in spite of our survival instincts we are, significantly, driven by love to transcend our selfishness; to respect and care for the needs of others.

    In one video interview, David Loye: A Conversation About Charles Darwin, he expresses concern over how these imbalanced isolations of single ideas permeate our consciousness, possibly effecting our view long after they've been scientifically challenged, and offers the example of the 'selfish gene' theory.

    It reminded me of the power in language, glaringly apparent with “Junk DNA.” Another of those scientific labels / cultural memes that not only seemed unscientific (in its dismissal of something it couldn't be sure it understood) but arguably appeared to suffer from a lack of self-esteem, given that around 98% of DNA in the human genome is reported to be non-coding.

    http://www.news-medical.net/health/W...-Junk-DNA.aspx

    It might have been more scientific to describe it as mystery DNA. A title that may have suggested a greater level of impartiality in its labellers, and may also have felt more inviting to budding scientists entering the field. The fact that the title of “mystery” DNA might have seemed a little near-mystical for mainstream scientific tastes perhaps reflects the absence of whole-mindedness, and openness to realms beyond traditional notions of physicality, so often addressed on this thread.

    Loye also reiterates another point you frequently raise Wade, which is that countless voices including Jesus, Gautama, Darwin and various avatars, have all expressed the requisite for us to tend to our moral evolution and transformation.

    Growth through love always was and will be, a warmer, more ascendant experience.



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    Hi Melinda:

    I read Loye's prologue. Yes, describing life as just a battle for survival is a kind of degrading way to view it. The end of Darwin's Origin reads:


    "Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows. There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into new forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved."


    Yes, junk-DNA is quite a term. One of my themes is that we can change our evolution, make it less important, and the like. A supposedly sentient species can radically change the "game," and may indeed be why we are here.

    Yes, Darwin's work, kind of like any great work like his, becomes a political football that people use to further their agendas. I keep coming back to Jesus's saying that there is no out-group, to only have his name used by the most murderous people of all time, who cite him as they commit the murders. What I did not mention in my little summary of the de Soto entrada was how religious the affair also was. Along with the slave chains, man-eating dogs, etc., were sacraments that were regularly dispensed to the mercenaries.

    At the Battle of Mabila, as the Spaniards killed a few thousand people (the Spaniards lost less than 30 people – typical casualty ratios when Spaniards fought Indians), they lost most of their supplies, including their coveted sacraments. On the entrada, de Soto read The Requirement to the hapless Indians and often made a display of his Christianity, erecting crosses, naming landmarks after Christian themes, and the like. All the while, they were slaughtering natives, raping the women, feeding people to their dogs, and so on. The other Spanish entradas and even missions were all like that.

    If Jesus's message could get turned upside down like that, whose couldn't? Darwin is in good company.

    I have many times encountered people assailing my work with interpretations that are literally insane, as they turn my message upside down.

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    Hi:

    The resumption of my career was put off by a few weeks, and I am not complaining, but these multiple daily posts will come to an end soon, maybe forever, as I concentrate on the remainder of my career, play husband, and get that choir going.

    I am currently reading a book on the appearance of whales. My book states an eight million year transition, while I mention ten million in my essay. Hmmm, maybe I'll update my essay when I finish it. In the next couple of weeks will be some essay tweaking (mostly grammar and punctuation, likely), and then I may not touch the essay significantly for years.

    Pre-Choir Q&A.

    Q: Wade, aren’t there big gaps in the fossil record that leave room for divine intervention and other challenges to Darwin's theory of descent with modification?

    A: There are big gaps in the fossil record, but when you look at the fossils at each end of the gap, the path between them is usually pretty clear. The exact path is unknown, but there are not any "how the hell did that turn into this?" problems, at least for it seeming to be unexplainable by descent with modification.

    In Darwin's Origin of Species, he discussed the spottiness of the fossil record and the challenges that it presented for his theory. But whenever new tools, such as DNA analysis, have been brought to bear on the subject, they have only confirmed Darwin's theory. His descent with modification is one of the most battle-tested theories in science, and it has never looked shaky. That is not to say that Darwin was always right, not by any means. His uniformitarian beliefs set back the study of mass extinctions by a century.

    An example of the spottiness of the fossil record is gorillas. Rainforests are poor fossil-makers, and no gorilla fossils have ever been found, but even before DNA testing, scientists believed that gorillas predated chimps and the human line descended from chimps, and when DNA testing became a new tool, it only confirmed it. Gorillas have been living in the African rainforest for about ten million years, and have probably evolved very little during their tenure on Earth, as their environment did not change much. When the rainforest shrank with the developing ice age, they just shrank their range, which led to the appearance of bonobos. Chimps are gorillas that got pushed to the rainforest margins, and their anatomical differences are the result of adapting to their fringe environments. Some chimps also got pushed to the edge of their range and began to live in the woodlands, and those eventually became humans.

    Again, the fossil record for chimps and gorillas is pretty much non-existent, as rainforests are poor fossil producers, but comparative anatomy, DNA testing, geology, paleoclimate studies, and other disciplines have pieced together a very robust picture of what happened, and there are not any pieces of evidence that I am aware of that throws the entire picture into doubt. There are still plenty of mysteries. An ape fossil found in Turkey, for instance, has called into question the ape evolutionary path, but it certainly is not upending the paradigm of gorilla, chimp, and human evolution. Take the global cooling that led to this ice age, which began 50 million years ago. The evidence is all over the world, from sea sediment cores to what species went extinct and what appeared, to carbon dioxide studies, so that the data points are extremely robust. When catastrophists and others (Hapgood, for instance) used medieval maps to support arguments of an ice-free Antarctica in historic times (or even medieval visits to Antarctica), that evidence had incredibly high hurdles to overcome, and the evidence has not survived scrutiny.

    So yes, there are gaps, and scientists are always calling for more research, more fossils, new tools, and the like, but whenever new fossils are adduced, and new tools, new techniques, and the like have been brought to bear on the problems, a common refrain is, "Darwin was right again!"

    Einstein even wrote the forward to Hapgood's book, but it was a decade before the science of plate tectonics began, and nobody takes Hapgood's hypothesis seriously anymore, other than amateur enthusiasts. There is a mountain of chaff on the fringes, and many enthusiasts cannot tell the difference between wheat and chaff and uncritically swallow the chaff and reject the wheat. I have seen this in many fringe areas, and it is a hazard of the fringes. There is plenty of fringe wheat, too, earth-shaking wheat, such as FE and related technologies, but nobody's global empire is threatened by most fringe enthusiast predilections. If there were technologically advanced ancient civilizations, so what? What can we learn from them? Can we make FE devices based on studying the Giza necropolis? I have yet to see any claims like that pan out. The megalithic architecture of early civilizations were a form of elite display above all else, and I have yet to see any of the megalithic architecture need to invoke ET assistance. Geez!, the stuff is made of stone! That is not exactly an exotic material. Stone Age and Bronze Age peoples were good at working in stone!

    Time for chores.

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