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    Default UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Apparently this crash was witnessed and pictures were released on facebook. Here is one youtube news release:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I92ZC2cGc8s

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    more news on this:


    military trucks at the crash site picture



    picture of the crash site


    Probably, more pics, and hopefully video will surface in the next few days/weeks.

    be happy

    lucidity :-)

    PS.. if you find any good pics/videos.. save them to your local computer because
    these materials are usually removed from youtube/facebook/etc.

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Some people at area is isolated in their house, phone line and cell towers blocked

    I can not reach some of my contacts in Winnipeg.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECtL...=youtube_gdata
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    UFO near Jackhead? It's actually a plane, says military

    Social media reports of a possible UFO sighting last night near Jackhead, Man., are not true, says the Canadian Forces, which attributed the bright light people saw to an airplane from a training exercise. On Wednesday night, several people said on Twitter and Facebook that they saw a bright light in the sky, fuelling speculation that it may have been an unidentified flying object.

    The rumour became stronger when photos were posted of Canadian Forces vehicles in the area, with some people claiming the military was there to contain a UFO crash site.


    Trucks and police vehicles arriving at site of crash

    But it was not a UFO at all, says Lt.-Col. Paul Davies, commanding officer 38 Territorial Battalion Group, which is involved in an Arctic Response Company Group training exercise on Lake Winnipeg this week. "There's no aliens, just my friends in the air force who are out there helping us on this exercise," Davies told CBC News on Thursday. "I have the commander of that air force contingent sitting right beside me and, you know, he assures us that that was not a UFO, but that was him."

    About 150 military personnel are taking part in Exercise Arctic Bison 2015, which includes the 38 Canadian Brigade Group, the 2nd Battalion of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, the 4th Canadian Ranger Patrol Group, and 440 Squadron of the Royal Canadian Air Force.


    Members of the Arctic Response Company Group drive across frozen Lake Winnipeg during Exercise Arctic Bison 2015. (MCpl Cameron Skrypnyk/DND)

    Davies said soldiers are training to deal with a plane crash and provide ground search and rescue support in the Arctic. The bright light that people saw, he explained, came from an airplane that takes off very quickly. "From a distance it may have looked like it was going straight up in the air, but it wasn't," he said. "It was just us out there playing our games." The exercise wraps up on Sunday.


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...tary-1.2963994

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    Quote Davies said soldiers are training to deal with a plane crash and provide ground search and rescue support in the Arctic. The bright light that people saw, he explained, came from an airplane that takes off very quickly. "From a distance it may have looked like it was going straight up in the air, but it wasn't," he said. "It was just us out there playing our games." The exercise wraps up on Sunday
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    People normally associate something crashing from the sky as something coming downwards, not going upwards.
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Canadian Army Exercise ARCTIC BISON 2015
    February 17, 2015



    Exercise ARCTIC BISON 2015 (Ex AB 15) will be conducted by 38 Canadian Brigade Group (38 CBG) from 13-22 February 2015 along the length of Lake Winnipeg. Ex AB 15 will see approximately 110 members of the Canadian Army travel by snowmobile from Gimli to Grand Rapids, with approximately 40 members remaining in Gimli in the Land Component Command (LCC) headquarters or in supporting roles. The exercise will focus on the achievement of the Arctic Response Company Group (ARCG) Full Operating Capability criteria, specifically focussing on the ability of the ARCG to force project and sustain itself 300 km from its support base.

    Context

    Canada faces a variety of domestic threats such as forest fires and floods, other environmental hazards, and man-made incidents including accidents and potential criminal/terrorist actions. Within the 38 CBG area of responsibility – a large region that is varied in terms of geography, climate, ecology, population and industry – there is considerable scope for a domestic emergency to occur that would be beyond the capacity of provincial authorities, and could potentially lead them to call upon the CAF for assistance. 38 CBG, being one the primary force generation organizations for land based domestic operations in Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Northwest Ontario, needs to be able to provide a relevant, responsive, and effective task-tailored force to respond to any request for assistance requested by the various federal, provincial, and municipal government organizations.

    Additionally, the Canada First Defense Strategy mandates a significant Canadian Armed Forces presence in the Arctic. The remoteness of the Arctic, combined with the vast distances between operating bases, the lack of infrastructure, and difficulties in communications necessitates that the North be regarded as an expeditionary type theatre requiring forces to be uniquely trained, deployable, scalable, and as self-sufficient as possible. In order to enhance Northern sovereignty, each Canadian Army Division maintains a trained and responsive ARCG force generated primarily from the Army reserve, and is trained and equipped to operate in all Arctic conditions.



    Activities

    Ex AB 15 will provide realistic and challenging scenarios in harsh environments to the ARCG to ensure readiness for events that may arise. The exercise scenario will include response to a major air disaster, support to Ground Search and Rescue, and public relations activities in some communities along the shore of Lake Winnipeg.

    The exercise will see coordination with other government agencies such as the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Transportation Safety Board, as well as military units from outside 38 CBG such as the 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, the 4th Canadian Ranger Patrol Group, and 440 Squadron of the Royal Canadian Air Force.

    Environmental Stewardship

    The vicinity of Lake Winnipeg is not typically used as a training area for the Canadian Army, and as such, will provide a new environment with its own challenges to the ARCG. The CAF takes every precaution to minimize the impact of its activities on the environment through the application of appropriate technology, expertise, and risk management practices. Accordingly, an environmental assessment has been completed prior to the exercise.

    Media Contacts

    Lieutenant Derek Reid, 38 Canadian Brigade Group Public Affairs Officer
    Phone: 204-833-2500 ext. 6543
    Email: derek.reid2@forces.gc.ca
    After Hours: 204-688-3267

    For more information on the Canadian Army please visit http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/e...ern/index.page or follow us @3CdnDiv.



    Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/38cbg/...7648588888263/

    Source: http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/e...-2015/i5xz1ft4
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    The whole area is on lockdown, people with video have been detained. Was this on the mainstream news? Even if it was a military aircraft that crashed, why so hush hush? This should go viral. Seize these opportunites when they arise. Before the the threats start happenin to these poor families that saw it. Answers! We want 'em!
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Posted by Chris Rutkowski - Sunday, February 22, 2015



    No, there was no "UFO Crash" at Jackhead

    It all started as a silly late-night gag, and has mushroomed into a major ufological mystery.Or so conspiracy buffs would have you believe.

    On Wednesday night, February 18, 2015, at about 9:00 pm, a friend of mine named Maeengan Linklater sent me a PM on Facebook:

    Quote Hey, I'm hearing stories on a ufo in Jackhead First Nation with military trucks heading up there. Hear anything?
    Maeengan is a great guy and a fine researcher. He’s also knowledgable about all things Aboriginal and Indigenous, with connections to many First Nations communities. So if he’s heard a story from one of them, there’s something to it. He then added quickly:

    Quote However, I think this morning, the Canadian army was going to be doing arctic exercises on Lake Winnipeg.
    Ah, so that was it. We usually hear in advance if the Canadian Armed Forces are doing Search&Rescue training, but not all the time. And the west shore of Lake Winnipeg is exactly where these exercises are held. In fact, we get UFO reports a few times a year when the planes drop flares (a la Phoenix Lights) over the lake, giving a spectacular display.

    I immediately suspected this is what that night’s stories were about. Usually, however, transports aren’t involved, because they’re air exercises. And Jackhead is a bit north of where the training missions are usually held, near Gimli.

    Then Maeengan added:

    Quote And, people being asked to evacuate as well.
    This wasn’t a regular Search&Rescue exercise. And why would anyone need to be evacuated? I checked the Canadian Forces website and found the following:

    Quote Exercise ARCTIC BISON 2015, held February 13-22 along the length of Lake Winnipeg, focuses on challenging training for the Arctic Response Company Group in austere winter conditions.
    Well, that explained it. Open and shut case. But it still didn’t make sense that anyone would be evacuated.

    Maeengan told me that the evacuation comment came from a tweet from the First Nations community. I logged on to my Twitter account and searched for “Jackhead.” Sure enough, up came several tweets, including a daytime screen shot of several military transports on a road that looked like it could be in that area.

    The first tweet that I found was:

    Quote Luke Jacob Thiessen ‏@ljthiessen  Feb 18Seeing photos of military trucks headed into Jackhead, MB, supposedly responding to "crashed UFO." That got weird fast. #JackheadUFO
    The early photos were screen shots of a military convoy, although there was nothing to indicate exactly where this was observed.And then there was:

    Quote Grant Hamilton ‏@Gramiq  Feb 18 Brandon, ManitobaWhaaa? Supposed UFO crash in Jackhead, MB, north of Winnipeg.  #XFilesReboot MT #JackheadUFOCrash
    I could tell that the story was starting to explode. Somebody did a search on it and found that I had included a sighting in Jackhead in my 1993 Canadian UFO Survey:

    Quote Jason Phillips ‏@Feuerbach11  Feb 18@mc79hockey Not the first UFO in Jackhead, apparently:http://thecid.com/ufo/uf15/uf1/151629.htm
    But then a reporter whom I know quickly posted:

    Quote Melissa Martin ‏@DoubleEmMartin  Feb 18Ok we can cancel our tinfoil orders, Jackhead is alien free
    https://twitter.com/derekgagnon1/status/568204182588493824
    And a military tweeter explained:

    Quote ‏@DerekGagnon1@DoubleEmMartin @thrubeniuk Exercise Arctic Bison began on the weekend, our largest local winter exercise of the year. Annual event.
    Well that was that. Except… the tweets kept coming…

    Quote Miss Kelly ‏@clairissak  Feb 18So apparently the aliens have landed in Jackhead, MB #JackheadUFO Jackhead Alien ‏
    Quote @JackHeadAlienMB  Feb 18Landed here in Jackhead? It's ****ing cold here. Just asked my agent to add Manitoba to my do not invade list.
    Yes, there was even a JackHeadAlienMB twitter name. And there were many more, including the disturbing:

    Quote Nolan Monkman ‏@MonkmanNolan  Feb 18 Wat with the military invading jackhead first nation?
    Then:

    Quote CarChen ‏@CarChen  Feb 18@CNN UFO crashed in Jackhead, MB Canadian Military are on their way over now!
    Even when someone from Jackhead tweeted:

    Quote Isaiah ‏@ColeCameron99  Feb 18@itsPHILLY204 I can assure you, it has nothing to do with a UFO 😐 I'm from Jackhead and its only a training exercise.
    It was ignored completely.

    Even when an Aboriginal radio station posted a story about the excitement, giving many details, it didn’t stem the tide:

    Quote NCI FM ‏@NCI_FM  Feb 19Jackhead Reserve: alien free since at least 1993 http://wp.me/p3ZVXA-1phhttp://www.ncifm.com/jackhead-reserve-alien-free-since-at-least-1993/ 
    But then the UFO media took interest, and away it went:

    Quote UFO RESEARCH ‏@UFO_RESEARCH  Feb 19UFO Sighting in Jackhead, Manitoba on February 16th 2015 - according to locals was a crash with large mil... http://bit.ly/1z2Xp6w  #UFO
    The incident was even reported as an actual case to MUFON
    http://www.ufostalker.com/ufostalker/UFO+Sighting+in+Jackhead+Manitoba+Canada+on+February+16th+2015/63432?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ufostalker+%28UFO+Stalker%29


    Even though there was no actual witness or witness report, the MUFON case file noted:

    Quote “according to locals was a crash with large military presence and cordoned off to civilians.”
    Other tweets said that the road to the reserve and town had been blocked by military vehicles. My question at this point was, “Which locals?” The only identified and named individuals from Jackhead who posted on Twitter were those who said the whole thing was simply a military exercise and that there was no “UFO crash.”

    But the UFO media went nuts: The badly-named UFOSFacts:

    Quote UFOSFACTS ‏@UfosFacts  Feb 19UFO Sighting in Jackhead, Manitoba on February 16th 2015 - according to locals was a crash with large… http://dlvr.it/8dcYdS  #UFOS #OVNIS
    The worst offender was the mostly-hoax UFO Youtube channel ThirdPhaseOfMoon, which ran an audio interview of a “guy who knew a guy in Jackhead” with an image from an unrelated UFO case, which many viewers thought was what was seen at Jackhead:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_SJbGIO3VE&feature=youtu.be&a

    The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) quickly posted a story that included an interview with military officials:

    Quote CBC Manitoba ‏@CBCManitoba  Feb 19ICYMI: Bright light near Jackhead last night wasn't a #UFO, says military http://www.cbc.ca/1.2963994  #cbcmb #manitoba
    And a few others, including me, tried to set things straight.

    Quote Chris Rutkowski ‏@ufologyresearch No, there was no #UFO #crash in #Jackhead #Manitoba last night, and no one was evacuated by the military. #hoax Sorry, no #Disclosure 
    Quote Neal Shepperson ‏@NealShepperson  Feb 19@ufologyresearch @anomalistnews You would say that though wouldn't you...   :D
    The next day, after I had thought things had slowed down, I awoke to find the story was going viral. I knew someone had to investigate this story, and it obviously had to be me, since no one else seemed to want to do so. Mainstream media took a look and found quickly it was the military exercise, but I wanted to know who started the rumours, and what was actually seen that led to the report of a UFO?

    I easily found a number for the Band Office, and spoke with a council member there. She laughed. She said that if everyone had been evacuated, she wouldn’t have answered the phone. I asked her about the rumours and she said that there was nothing to them at all.

    I dutifully reported back on Twitter about what I had learned.

    Quote Chris Rutkowski @ufologyresearch  ·  Feb 19 No, there was no #UFO #crash in #Jackhead #Manitoba last night, and no one was evacuated by the military. #hoax Sorry, no #Disclosure
    But there was no way that facts were going to get in the way of a good story. Rumours continued to circulate on Facebook, Twitter, Youtube and UFO Media about the amazing UFO crash at Jackhead, which was variously described as a town, a reserve and a military base.

    Posters insisted that they knew people who had been evacuated, who had been turned away at a military checkpoint, and who had definitely seen UFOs. Many said they knew people from Jackhead First Nation who had witnessed the crash and ensuing cover-up personally.

    Of course, no one was talking about it firsthand. Obviously, the conspirators explained, they had been hushed up. Taken away, never to be heard from again.

    I tried being the voice of reason again, the following day, as the story continued its viral ascent.

    Quote Chris Rutkowski @ufologyresearch  ·  Feb 20Good grief! That #ufo crash story at #jackhead is still going! We looked into it and there's nothing to it, people! https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ufo-near-j...224138620.html
    The news coverage, in which the military explained about the exercise, did nothing to stop the rumour mill. In fact, the comments on the news stories show that almost no one believed the explanation.

    Things got worse that night when ThirdPhaseOfMoon had a phone-in podcast during which “eyewitnesses” from Manitoba called in to rave about the UFO crash.

    Blogger Seashoremary, who posts about conspiracies such as vaccines, NWO and bible prophesy, documented the discussion. https://seashoremary.wordpress.com/2015/02/21/mystery-continues-ufo-craft-crashed-in-jackhead-reservation-manitoba-canada/

    She noted:

    Quote Throughout the hour the incoming Canadian callers would get disconnected.  Interference was felt by the radio host and his frustration over the situation. The host was able, during the live broadcast, share information that he had received emails from eye witnesses with texted cryptic information: “Your government needs you.  Keep quiet” pointing  a finger at them.“They told us we have one hour to evacuate.”“That’s all I’m allowed to say.”“Don’t send to anyone.” (implied text message)The eye witnesses have been intimidated and are now afraid to speak out.  People are unhappy with the shut down and the military presence in their area.
    In other words, nothing to substantiate any of the claims.

    There were also some very fanciful Facebook posts by a Brent Mancheese:

    Quote UFO crash reported on the Jackhead reserve in Manitoba, Canada. Apparently the Canadian Military have vehicles lined up on north shore. They are threatening anybody who tries to take pics…lots of eye witnesses. Thur is round object being hauled across the lake being pulled by snow mobiles and bombardier … Something was seen going down by 8 fishermen they reported it…why would they not let the media know if it was a plane crash.
    There’s also a question about photographs. The first ones that were posted and reposted widely were the daytime shots of personnel carriers. Then, someone posted a nighttime shot of vehicles on the ice.

    And then a daytime shot with annotations has been circulated, and posted on Disclose.tv:



    Seashoremary noted:

    Quote The host mentioned he has received photographs that he feels are legitimate but unable to download them onto a video pending consent from the senders who are now not able to communicate outside their territory. According to the radio host, one photo shows that it’s not an airplane but has “definite structure” about half-size of a football field 40′ – 50′.  Another photo shows people running to the scene, including military personnel on snowmobiles.
    There's even an "artist's conception of the object on the lake:



    One post on Disclose.tv showed exactly how far the conspiracy buffs are taking this:

    Quote Freetruth • There is also short footage of disk in sky. They have shut down the reservation, no in, no out, have cut off phone internet lines, went door to door, asking if people saw anything, to help investigate, then those who said they did have been detained. Early on stuff got out calls, emails made. If this is nothing then we demand let ALL these people be free safe & accounted for because whether military created or other worldly, the point is this is abuse of citizens, harrass ment, threats, & unlawful detainment. Further gagging freedom of speech or ability to call out for help. Gov mil say simple mil excessive crash, fine & well then release pics images, be done with it. Release ALL you have detained. Leaving them in full possession of their property, phones, computers, cameras etc.. All data. These people did get out to friends asking for help, can't understand why they are being threatened detained etc... Some taken for further questioning.
    Many posters on social media really had no idea of what the facts of the case were at all. But the implications of their comments are making things uncomfortable. ThirdPhaseOfMoon’s second podcast stirred things up by stating that the residents on the reserve were mad that the military was covering up such an event on their land.

    One poster on February 22nd, three days after the story began going viral, asked:

    Quote Kris H ‏@HargoFett
    Did a Canadian Roswell just happen?http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/manitoba/ufo-near-jackhead-it-s-actually-a-plane-says-military-1.2963994 …Why would military conduct exercise on Indian reservation?
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    The Truth That Won’t Be Believed by Conspiracy Buffs and UFO Fans

    First of all, Jackhead is a name given to the Kinonjeoshtegon First Nation on the western shore of Lake Winnipeg, about 300 kilometres due north of the city of Winnipeg. It’s not a military base. In fact, there’s no base anywhere near it.

    Jackhead is quite remote, with only a single gravel road leading in from Peguis First Nation and the town of Dallas (really!), about 60 kilometres south, and nothing in between. There are about 225 people who live on Jackhead First Nation, and some fish for a living. There are few other communities anywhere near there. During the winter, weather conditions make it very challenging to travel around or about the lake.

    Second, related to the first point about the isolation of the site, the Canadian Forces chose Lake Winnipeg as the perfect place for winter training exercises.

    On their website for Arctic Bison 2015: http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/news-publications/western-news-details-secondary-menu.page?doc=exercise-arctic-bison-2015/i5xz1ft4

    Quote Exercise ARCTIC BISON 2015 (Ex AB 15) will be conducted by 38 Canadian Brigade Group (38 CBG) from 13-22 February 2015 along the length of Lake Winnipeg.  Ex AB 15 will see approximately 110 members of the Canadian Army travel by snowmobile from Gimli to Grand Rapids, with approximately 40 members remaining in Gimli in the Land Component Command (LCC) headquarters or in supporting roles.  The exercise will focus on the achievement of the Arctic Response Company Group (ARCG) Full Operating Capability criteria, specifically focussing on the ability of the ARCG to force project and sustain itself 300 km from its support base.
    In other words, about 70 soldiers were traveling by snowmobile from Gimli far to the south of Jackhead to Grand Rapids far to the north, and because of the nature of the geography, they passed close to the western shore near Jackhead as they travelled.

    And what about the aircraft seen?

    Quote Ex AB 15 will provide realistic and challenging scenarios in harsh environments to the ARCG to ensure readiness for events that may arise. The exercise scenario will include response to a major air disaster, support to Ground Search and Rescue, and public relations activities in some communities along the shore of Lake Winnipeg.
    So they staged a fake airplane crash to practice search and rescue techniques under extreme winter conditions. And the object "dragged along the lake?" The military exercise included constructing an emergency landing strip on the ice, which would have required digging a smooth patch on the ice, and removing the show to a certain depth. That was what is on the surface of the lake in the photograph.

    (But yes, they obviously failed in their “public relations activities.” Because even though the Band Council and administrators knew about the military exercise that could pass near the community, the residents themselves were not told enough about what was going to be seen.)

    Seashoremary’s transcription of the ThirdPhaseOfMoon’s podcast included the few details what can be thought of as UFO sightings from that night:

    Quote “I talked to one eye-witness seen something falling 1:30am Wednesday morning with bluish-green lights, he’s wondering what it was he saw, another honest fisherman said they were told to leave the lake Wednesday and not allowed to take pictures.”
    It’s easy to understand these eyewitness descriptions knowing what we know about the operation. The lights in the sky (if that’s where they were seen) were aircraft. As for fishermen told to leave the lake, it would have been dangerous to have civilians near a military operation and were told to leave. As for photos? Well, it was a military operation.

    All this is speculation based on the facts of the event. We have not actually heard from first-hand witnesses from the community.

    What about the rumours of people being taken from their homes and cut off from the outside world? What we do know is that Internet access out there can be spotty and dependent on phone lines. I was able to reach people in the band office by phone, and it’s obvious that someone out there is on Twitter and Facebook, so Internet access has not been cut off. Nor have posts been removed.

    Another thing that should be pointed out is that the military exercise started on February 13th, several days before the “UFO crash.” If a saucer did crash on the night of the 18th, it’s odd that the military would know about it before it happened, and also were in the exact location where it would occur.

    There are plenty of second-hand sources of information about evacuation and saucers on the frozen lake, but apart from the fishermen, no one has admitted seeing or experiencing any of the strange events.

    This is what’s on MysteriousUniverse.org:

    Quote UFO crash reported on the Jackhead reserve in Manitoba, Canada. Apparently the Canadian Military have vehicles lined up on north shore. They are threatening anybody who tries to take pics…lots of eye witnesses. Thur is round object being hauled across the lake being pulled by snow mobiles and bombardier … Something was seen going down by 8 fishermen they reported it…why would they not let the media know if it was a plane crash. Apparently a disc shaped craft was seen crashing through the ice on the lake, at least one person got photographic evidence but has since been detained by the Canadian military.
    Let’s look at this summary of the conspiracy line by line.

    UFO crash reported on the Jackhead reserve in Manitoba, Canada.
    FALSE. A simulated plane crash was on the lake itself, significantly offshore.

    Apparently the Canadian Military have vehicles lined up on north shore.
    FALSE. There would be supporting military vehicles near the exercises, but this is the west shore.

    They are threatening anybody who tries to take pics.
    PARTLY TRUE. The military likely was discouraging civilians to take photos.

    Lots of eye witnesses
    POSSIBLY TRUE. If this refers to the UFO seen, then yes. The rumour says “eight fishermen,” though none have come forward officially. But what else were people witnesses to?

    There is [a] round object being hauled across the lake being pulled by snow mobiles and bombardier.
    PROBABLY TRUE. The military exercise involves a 300-kilometre trip across the frozen lake in -40F conditions. I sure hope they have plenty of supplies.

    Something was seen going down by 8 fishermen.
    See above.

    Why would they not let the media know if it was a plane crash?
    ANSWER: Because there was no real plane crash.

    Apparently a disc shaped craft was seen crashing through the ice on the lake.
    UNSUBSTANTIATED. There is no report of such an event, and no evidence to this effect. (I hope this did not refer to a military accident involving personnel, but we would have heard of this by now through conventional media if they had.)

    At least one person got photographic evidence but has since been detained by the Canadian military.
    UNSUBSTANTIATED. Who? Wouldn’t anyone from the community know who this was and object, perhaps going right to media? This would have been something to tweet out for sure, that “John White was arrested by the military.”

    So, despite the lack of evidence of the wild claims, the story of the “UFO Crash in Jackhead” continues to go viral. Why did the story get made up, anyway? I suspect because of the general distrust of the military and the poor communication by the Canadian Forces public relations office about is operation, the activity was viewed as suspicious by some people in the remote community.

    And the UFO conspiracy community did the rest.

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    Source: http://uforum.blogspot.com
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Blah blah blah. Why should a training exercise be shrouded in such secrecy and control? This is damage control in my opinion. Till I hear from the people of that community (not via twitter or facebook), this is far from making sense.
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    That still doesn't constitute proof to me. That fellow is from there. Was he actually there though? He could be receiving third hand "info" from his family/friends who still live there. Info told to them by military guys that came to their door.

    We'll see what becomes of this.
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    This story will be forgotten in a couple of days. Hopefully, no one was hurt.
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    JACKHEAD RESERVE: ALIEN FREE SINCE AT LEAST 1993

    Here is perhaps some of the most obvious news you will hear all day… a UFO has not crashed in Manitoba.

    Social media sites have been a buzz about little green men, flying saucers and a heavy military presence in the area of Jackhead reserve.

    There is no truth to the invaders or their space craft, though the bit about the Canadian military is real, but has a much more earthly explanation.

    Forces members are on an annual exercise called Operation Arctic Bison and they’re in Jackhead because some of the snowmobiles they were using to cross Lake Winnipeg broke down.

    A statement from the military says they’ll be moving on shortly from Jackhead as they take the remaining working snowmobiles north towards Grand Rapids.

    Jackhead has been the subject of a previous report of an Unidentified Flying Object. According to the website of the Canadian UFO Survey, there was a single green light observed by one person in the community back on November 7, 1993.

    – Garth Hilderman

    Source: http://www.ncifm.com/jackhead-reserv...-at-least-1993

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Hello Siblings,

    What smells bad here, is that someone is going to extreme lengths with a detailed
    and unnecessarily convoluted story about how it's all really not a UFO at all.
    Nothing to see here folks, go about your business...
    It smells distinctly of disinformation.

    Why the complete secrecy ?
    Why the arrest of local spectators ?
    Why the prohibition on vehicles in or out of the area ?
    Why the posters 'Your country needs your silence'

    You don't get that kind of authoritarian secrecy for regular
    training exercises.

    This is a new Roswell, and they're jumping up and down trying to keep a lid on it.
    Next they'll be releasing images of some aircraft wreckage in the snow
    claiming this is what fell from the sky. This would be an exact parallel to the official
    'weather balloon' pictures released after Roswell.

    When aircraft fall from the sky they don't light up like shooting stars.
    This thing was mistaken for a meteorite.

    I confidently predict that more images, video and testimony will surface
    in the days and weeks that follow to show that buares' story above
    (citing the story by Chris Rutkowski) above is a load of hogwash.

    The question is, where can that stuff be posted without risk of it being
    immediately taken down (as usually happens at youtube and facebook).
    If anyone has a good answer to this, please let me know via PM, or
    by posting to this thread.

    An interesting line of enquiry would be to go and ask psychics
    (who have proven previous accuracy) what landed on 18th Feb.

    be happy

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Let me ask you buarez, why the media blackout? Why the secrecy? If a regular plane crashed ANYWHERE it would be on the news! Give ur head a shake man. Why have images been removed from facebook?
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Tyy1907, Buarez is providing information that it is an exercise testing military response to a downed plane. Could it be a cover-up of a UFO crash? Maybe, so far all the "evidence" is hearsay and conjecture.

    I want to believe but not at the expense of truth. I'd like to see more evidence that it is a downed UFO before jumping to that conclusion.
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Quote Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
    Let me ask you buarez, why the media blackout? Why the secrecy? If a regular plane crashed ANYWHERE it would be on the news! Give ur head a shake man. Why have images been removed from facebook?
    In case of a UFO crash, the military would have to prevent the journalists from taking pictures because some terrorist organizations could reverse-engineer the ET tech based on the photos of the craft. I would not be surprised if the military managed to rescue a couple of EBEs from drowning and abducted a few locals inside one of their secret bases in order to cover it all up. And they may even use this new ET tech they just found against the civilians, for whatever reason.



    Also I think the UFOs should be made aware of the fact that crashing on Earth is not a good idea. If caught by the military, the EBEs will be detained and experimented on in secret bunkers probably for the rest of their life so I think they should definitely find a way to avoid crashing on Earth.
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    It seems like beforeitnews posted the image of another UFO:


    http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/...s-2484400.html

    So there are probably not only one but at least 2 crashed UFOs, one is pyramid-shaped and the other one is circular.

    And the worst is that we'll probably never know the truth...
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    Quote Posted by Octavusprime (here)
    Tyy1907, Buarez is providing information that it is an exercise testing military response to a downed plane. Could it be a cover-up of a UFO crash? Maybe, so far all the "evidence" is hearsay and conjecture.

    I want to believe but not at the expense of truth. I'd like to see more evidence that it is a downed UFO before jumping to that conclusion.
    The fact of the matter is evidence is never plentiful in cases such as this. If we've learned anything about the countless eyewitness UFO sightings, extreme efforts are put toward keeping a lid on it. We have to work with what we have. Evidence has already been suppressed and deleted in this case. Residents on lockdown wondering what in the F&$@ is going on. Not being told a sniff of whats what. Is this what we want?
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