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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote Posted by MorningSong (here)
    I really don't want to add more fuel to the fire, but... I saw this today on spaceweather.com and went, "hmmm... maybe the military were prepping for possible space junk reaching the ground"?

    Quote CHINESE ROCKET RE-ENTRY (UPDATED): On Monday night, Feb. 23-24, sky watchers in the western half of North America witnessed a spectacular cluster of fireballs and meteors. We now know it was the re-entry and breakup of a Chinese rocket body, specifically stage 3 of the CZ-4B rocket that launched the Yaogan Weixing 26 satellite in Dec. 2014. Donny Mott photographed the glowing debris from Spirit Lake, Idaho:
    By the time the rocket body reached the US-Canadian border, it was in many pieces. Molczan says "the approximate toe of the debris footprint (should any have survived to impact Earth) would be well into Canada."

    Monitor the realtime photo gallery for more sightings:
    I sincerely think you nailed it.
    Sorry Flash,

    I think he/she nailed something else.

    Subject event occurred at Feb 18 2015
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Quote Posted by lucidity (here)
    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    Quote Posted by lucidity (here)
    What smells bad here, is that someone is going to extreme lengths with a detailed and unnecessarily convoluted story about how it's all really not a UFO at all. [...] I confidently predict that more images, video and testimony will surface in the days and weeks that follow to show that buares' story above (citing the story by Chris Rutkowski) above is a load of hogwash.
    FYI, here are some of the books written by Chris Rutkowski:





    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chris...15025698561962
    This is amusing.

    I think it's a great cover for a disinfo agent to be a member of some UFO group
    and to have published several UFO books.

    In fact, if I was planning disinfo resources to cope with future 'incidents'
    this is exactly the kind of cover i'd set up. Having an appropriately
    experienced, appropriately placed 'agent' would maximise the credibility
    of the source of any future denials i might wish to circulate.

    What's more amusing is that someone has gone to the trouble
    to produce videos on youtube suggesting that Chris Rutkowski
    is a reptilian shapeshifter.

    I kid you not!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn3E2XrWBdw

    How many other UFO investigators are accused of this ?
    Normally this accusation is levelled at people at the highest
    levels of the political or military hierarchy.

    Isn't it odd that the first UFO researcher to publicise conclusions
    (somewhat prematurely) on this matter denies it's validity.

    Isn't it also strange that this same UFO researcher is the subject
    of a video suggesting he's a reptilian shapeshifter ?

    It's ridiculously amusing.

    I haven't read any of this guy's books.
    I've no idea in what direction his books lean.
    For example, on the issue of alien abductions, what conclusion does
    he come to? Does he say abductees are having fantasies and probably
    there's nothing really to this ? Does he say we should believe what
    these witnesses are telling us and that something worrying is going on ?

    If anyone has read this guy's books, i would be very interested to hear.

    be happy

    lucidity :-)
    Strangely, I felt same thing about him when I opposed his video but did not go far to search for him and his writings.

    He was agreed on military explanation with untruth confirmation.
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    Quote Posted by Cinta (here)
    ..i wonder when they will actually be forced to put something about this on mainstream media...not seen anything so far..but im watching..
    You won't.

    Canadian mainstream media already cover the story and killed it with just military exercise explanation. Also UFO community got it's part of it.
    I am very sorry to see that no one reads between-lines.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...tary-1.2963994

    The bright light that people saw, he explained, came from an airplane that takes off very quickly.(how quickly and which aircraft?)

    "From a distance it may have looked like it was going straight up in the air, but it wasn't," he said. "It was just us out there playing our games."


    Read the between lines
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Quote Posted by lucidity (here)
    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    Blake Cousin of Third Phase of The Moon: Jackhead Chief denies all of it

    Jackhead Chief says:

    "None of our people have been detained [...] That's just rumors and propaganda".
    Actually NO!
    This is not an interview with the Chief of the Jackhead tribe.

    And if you listen carefully the person interviewed denies being David (the chief) and says (of the chief) "he's not in".
    The interviewer fails to register this and continues on with the interviewer anyway.
    This is not, as billed, an interview with the Chief of the Jackhead tribe.

    Listen carefully to the 10 second segment from 01:19

    01.19 [?????] Hello
    01:20 [Blake] Hello. How you doing David?
    01:22 [?????] No
    01:23 [Blake] Yeah I'm looking for David ....
    01:24 [?????] Yeah. No. It's the errrr chief and he's err not in.
    01:27 [Blake] Hey i was wondering if err.. [sniff] ... Hey Chief i was just err
    ... I'm calling from the state of Hawaii....etc.
    Thanks for the update. Here is what SeashoreMary posted about this:
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    After carefully listening to the recording, ThirdPhaseofMoon did not speak with the Chief of First Nations. Blake Cousins from ThirdPhaseofMoon didn’t instantly capture the male response in reply to “Is David in?” The male person indicated “No.”

    However, during the conversation, this person never corrected Blake Cousins that he wasn’t the Chief and never confirmed his own name. However, yes, I believe the male answering the incoming call was a person or a part of the office.

    The male person basically denied that anything of a UFO downed craft happened. He kept stating he hadn’t heard anything about it. He did basically confirm that a military exercise had taken place. He used terms like “skiddoo” and “bombadier” were in the area. The very words used in the Facebook entries by Facebook user Apee Traverse whom I now believe started the conversation (Facebook screenshot below).

    According to the list of Chiefs of Manitoba, David Traverse is the Jackhead Chief for First Nation Kinonjeoshtegonm.



    I have questions for what went down and some may never be adequately answered.

    Was it a hoax all along? A joke carelessly perpetrated by people on Facebook? What about the honest fishermen?

    What about Marc? The concerned person who started the mystery by calling into the ThirdPhaseofMoon offices to report the downed UFO craft last week? Is he genuine? In relistening to the entire conversation–he sounds credible. Will he call back in or will Blake Cousins follow up?

    What about the photos leaked? Why go to all that extent to create one, no three, assuming they’re fake? What about the Facebook entries? I already know that Brent Mancheese received his “share” from Apee Traverse:




    Relisten to all the audio received now condensed into one video recording for complete reference:

    “Media Black Out” UFO CRASH? [JACKHEAD] Canada Raw UN-Edited Coverage!~2015

    Summary:

    Do I believe that this entire episode mystery was perpertrated by ThirdPhaseofMoon? No. Too elaborate and too many people involved. ThirdPhaseofMoon is headquartered in Hawaii and well, Jackhead is in Canada. ThirdPhaseofMoon did exactly as I did–report and ask questions.

    Something did happen. It was never disputed that the military was involved in the area conducting what? A military exercise in weather conditions minus 40 to minus 50, whom according to one of the callers almost never takes place in that particular area and if military accesses the territory, they would require clearance from the tribal council.

    We may never know until someone comes forward with genuine evidence.

    I’ll leave it as an unsolved mystery–you decide.

    Blessings,

    SeashoreMary

    https://seashoremary.wordpress.com/t...raft-jackhead/
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    Question Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    hmm ...

    SeashoreMary ...

    yes she use to be a member here.

    she's currently an active member over at 'The Mist of Avalon' forum.

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    APRIL 23, 2009
    Jackhead Chief Traverse charged with fraud

    David Traverse, chief of Kinonjeoshtegon (Jackhead) First Nation, is accused of stealing $16,000 from the now-defunct Anishinaabe Mino-Ayaawin (AMA) Inc. in September and October of 2000. [...]

    http://www.torontosun.com/news/manit...12596-sun.html
    -------------------------------------------------

    So... the local ufologist and the local chief are not to be trusted...

    and it seems like even the locals were "paid off"...




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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    I Wanna Believe - But ...


    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    Winnipeg UFO Crash Landing ?

    From LipTV

    "A UFO shaped like a pyramid has allegedly crash landed into Lake Winnipeg in Canada. Witnesses have reported seeing military forces on snowmobiles pulling a large disc out of the lake while the whole area in Manitoba, Canada on the Jackhead Reservation is now reportedly on lockdown. Is the Canadian government trying to cover something up? We look at a photo taken of the alleged UFO and discuss the conspiracy surrounding it, in this Lip News clip with Mark Sovel, Elliot Hill, and Jo Ankier."

    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    And Speaking of UFO's ...

    From last night locally here in the Northwest

    Some Space Junk From Chinese




    ***

    "CHINESE ROCKET RE-ENTRY: Last night, Feb. 23-24, sky watchers in the western half of North America witnessed a spectacular cluster of fireballs and meteors. We now know it was the re-entry and breakup of a Chinese rocket body, specifically stage 3 of the CZ-4B rocket that launched the Yaogan Weixing 26 satellite in Dec. 2014" ...






    Source

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    Question Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Space-stuff falls from the sky all the time folks ...

    And there's an awful lot of it.

    PS ~ And they say my threads are Endless ...
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Here is clear evidence (that the locals were "paid off" to help the military cover up the whole story):



    From:



    Source: https://www.facebook.com/ApeeJT
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Hello Siblings,

    Should we be impressed and persuaded that there are
    people on social media saying it was joke ?

    Should we be surprised that a local UFO researcher
    comes to a startlingly rapid conclusion that there's
    no UFO story here (before the evidence is really in)?

    Should we be surprised that long inactive members
    turn up out of the blue to supply a reaction to this?

    How about the contradictory stories coming from the
    military themselves ?
    => It's just a training exercise.
    => It's a downed aircraft
    => We were making a temporary runway

    and these military quotes:
    Quote The bright light that people saw, he explained,
    came from an airplane that takes off very quickly.

    "From a distance it may have looked like it was going
    straight up in the air, but it wasn't," he said.
    "It was just us out there playing our games."
    Perhaps next we'll her that it was a weather balloon,
    or swamp gas, or how about the Orford Ness Lighthouse ?

    We know what the military do in these circumstances.
    They go round and threaten people... with imprisonment and death.
    At the Rendlesham Forest case they injected their own military
    personnel with drugs that wipe out their memory.
    (Never agree to this, it causes permanent brain damage)

    So with this in mind, is it any surprise that we have people
    on social media saying 'yeah.. it was all a joke' ?

    My confident prediction is that this incident is going to blow up.
    Something's going to leak out. Video, pictures, testimony.
    This Chris Rutkowski character is going to get caught out.
    Someone should go and interview him. Start off by asking
    him questions about his views on integrity and honesty.
    That will provide some interesting clips after the story
    really breaks.

    be happy

    lucidity :-)

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    I think you are missing the point here lucidity, please do your own research before posting wild speculation with nothing to back it up, thanks.

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    I have, in my mind and... it's pretty far advanced compared to most, in clarity on the subject of dimensional and anti gravity craft......and for the life of me, I cannot find any reason whatsoever to make a flying craft in the shape of a stacked pyramid.

    The stacked pyramid shape only makes sense when being a physical shape on the ground (surface of a planetoid), for specific purposes in design and execution.

    It would be like humans making airplanes in the shape of the Michelin man. No purpose, no reason.

    Interdimensional Civil Servant

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    I'm waiting for this image to hit the "UFO" circles... from Mesa Arizona


    Lithium dust sounding rocket - a Nasa Terrier-Black Brank rocket.

    (Source)

    Quote News outlets in Arizona reported that residents in Phoenix, Tucson, Lake Havasu City and Flagstaff reported seeing the cloud.

    The rocket carried an atmospheric-research payload designed by scientists and engineers at a space-vehicles research lab at Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque.

    White Sands officials said the rocket's release of vapor into the near-vacuum of space was intended to help study processes responsible for the formation of the Earth's ionosphere.

    That's a region of space where electrons naturally separate from molecules and float separately to create an ionized gas.

    The experiment, which also involved using ground stations to take measurements of the ionosphere, was intended to develop scientific explanations for ionospheric disturbances and their effects on modern technology, officials said.

    The rocket was provided under a Department of Defense test program at Kirtland, while a NASA rocket program provided technical expertise for its assembly and other parts of the mission.

    The launch was postponed from Monday because of weather.
    Metals used for different air-luminescence phenomenon

    (Source)

    Red Strontium (intense red)
    Lithium (medium red)

    Compounds: SrCO3 (strontium carbonate)
    Li2CO3 (lithium carbonate) LiCl (lithium chloride)

    It seems easy to see that anything that is not regularly expected, can be construed to become 'anything' that one want's it to be to fulfill a desire or outcome.. (From the Philosophy of Desire)

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    I Wanna Believe - But ...


    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    Winnipeg UFO Crash Landing ?

    From LipTV

    "A UFO shaped like a pyramid has allegedly crash landed into Lake Winnipeg in Canada. Witnesses have reported seeing military forces on snowmobiles pulling a large disc out of the lake while the whole area in Manitoba, Canada on the Jackhead Reservation is now reportedly on lockdown. Is the Canadian government trying to cover something up? We look at a photo taken of the alleged UFO and discuss the conspiracy surrounding it, in this Lip News clip with Mark Sovel, Elliot Hill, and Jo Ankier."

    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    And Speaking of UFO's ...

    From last night locally here in the Northwest

    Some Space Junk From Chinese




    ***

    "CHINESE ROCKET RE-ENTRY: Last night, Feb. 23-24, sky watchers in the western half of North America witnessed a spectacular cluster of fireballs and meteors. We now know it was the re-entry and breakup of a Chinese rocket body, specifically stage 3 of the CZ-4B rocket that launched the Yaogan Weixing 26 satellite in Dec. 2014" ...






    Source
    They are all orange colours but not oranges.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post937037
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    Quote Posted by Tangri (here)

    Read the between lines
    Tangri ...

    I did, but the bottom line says you got nothing.
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    Quote Posted by Tangri (here)

    Read the between lines
    Tangri ...

    I did, but the bottom line says you got nothing.
    giovonni....



    Well, bottom line is, I can not make you to see it. Maybe I should write it like this to ease your comprehension. "Read between lines(not literately)

    This is a Canadian native Indians land, maybe hardest angle you do not understand is their rights, which is different than American Indians'.

    1 quick question to you. " Can American military do a military training in your Ranch and lands an airplane there?"

    They are talking "bright light came from an airplane (landed on the frozen lake in Indian reserve?) and takes off very quickly.

    They said soldiers are training to deal with a plane crash and provide ground search and rescue support in the Arctic.
    The bright light that people saw, he explained, came from an airplane that takes off very quickly.(how quickly and which aircraft?)

    "From a distance it may have looked like it was going straight up in the air, but it wasn't," he said. "It was just us out there playing our games."(playing games at someone else' backyard? Is it common for an american?)

    Read the between lines(not literally)

    If you read my previous writings(Posts) I never claimed it was an ET or UFO. (Maybe we should accept as a UGO)
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    apparently David Wilcock believes the crash in Canada was real. . .. and he claims that there is currently a no fly zone declared around the earth and any cabal members trying to leave the planet are being shot down. . . .
    I think it was on Coast to Coast today. Would explain a lot . . .
    "

    THINGS ARE GETTING EVER-INCREASINGLY WILD ON THE INSIDE TRACK

    Right now there is a war going on in space, directly over our heads. It really heated up in mid-December of last year and is ongoing.

    That war is reaching a decisive tipping-point. It appears that it will turn out very favorably for the vast majority of everyone on earth.

    In fact, it appears that it is already impossible for the Cabal to win this. Time still has to play out before it is visible to everyone, but the end is almost certain.

    Many of the power elite groups on this planet are in a state of complete chaos and turmoil as a result.

    Events unfolding on earth could be seen as a "proxy war" between groups of "good guys" or angels and "bad guys" operating in, with and around Earth.

    "Good" and "Bad" is obviously a question of your perspective. From the elite Cabal perspective, what is happening to them is very bad.

    However, the people who are fighting against the Cabal do very much seem to have humanity's best interests in mind.

    This alliance is a combination of earth governments, earth-based factions of the space program, and newly-arrived ETs who mean business.



    CLOAKED SHIPS GETTING SHOT DOWN

    It appears that major events are about to unfold on earth, involving the exposure and defeat of the Cabal.

    This appears to be coming in the form of vastly greater disclosures from the Snowden documents than what we have seen so far, among many other things.

    The "good guy" ETs have now enforced a no-fly zone around the earth. Any high-level Cabal people who try to fly out are being shot down.

    Their ships are cloaked, but when one of them gets shot down, we hear about epic meteor sightings -- and then the cleanup crews rush in.

    There have been a number of very high-profile and unusual "meteors" lately -- including daylight-bright flashes of light, sonic booms and the ground shaking for up to 15 seconds upon impact.



    UPDATE, NEXT MORNING: THE CALIFORNIA "BIZARRE FIREBALL"

    We've already got the "David Has No Proof!" comments coming in. Now that I've had a chance to sleep, here's some of what we know.

    One recent example from January 6th, covered by the Daily Mail, was seen in California.

    There was open speculation that this was "a UFO crashing, ejecting a miniature spacecraft."
    http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...losure-history
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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Quote Posted by Bob (here)
    I'm waiting for this image to hit the "UFO" circles... from Mesa Arizona


    Lithium dust sounding rocket - a Nasa Terrier-Black Brank rocket.

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    Quote News outlets in Arizona reported that residents in Phoenix, Tucson, Lake Havasu City and Flagstaff reported seeing the cloud.

    The rocket carried an atmospheric-research payload designed by scientists and engineers at a space-vehicles research lab at Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque.

    White Sands officials said the rocket's release of vapor into the near-vacuum of space was intended to help study processes responsible for the formation of the Earth's ionosphere.

    That's a region of space where electrons naturally separate from molecules and float separately to create an ionized gas.

    The experiment, which also involved using ground stations to take measurements of the ionosphere, was intended to develop scientific explanations for ionospheric disturbances and their effects on modern technology, officials said.

    The rocket was provided under a Department of Defense test program at Kirtland, while a NASA rocket program provided technical expertise for its assembly and other parts of the mission.

    The launch was postponed from Monday because of weather.
    Metals used for different air-luminescence phenomenon

    (Source)

    Red Strontium (intense red)
    Lithium (medium red)

    Compounds: SrCO3 (strontium carbonate)
    Li2CO3 (lithium carbonate) LiCl (lithium chloride)

    It seems easy to see that anything that is not regularly expected, can be construed to become 'anything' that one want's it to be to fulfill a desire or outcome.. (From the Philosophy of Desire)
    I took a picture of that with my phone. My pics are not as good. It was still dark when I took mine.

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    Question Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    will share this here ...

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    Hopefully before the next fifty year ...
    All this UFO stuff will become irrelevant ...



    From Mysterious Universe

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    Default Re: UFO CRASH IN CANADA on 18 Feb, 2015

    Hit the road, Jack! Part 2 (by Chris Rutkowski)

    The Jackhead “UFO Crash” story is much more interesting than first believed.

    Oh, it’s still a hoax, but it may now be easier to pinpoint who the hoaxer is. As well, new details have emerged as to what happened on the night of February 18, 2015, near Jackhead First Nations, and why there were military vehicles there.

    As I mentioned in my previous post, I have spoken a few times with officials on Jackhead First Nation, who not only denied there was anything to the rumours about evacuations, crashes and military crackdown, they even laughed at the silliness of the story. Yesterday, I reached out to another logical source for information: the military itself.

    I had access to the news release about the military exercise called Arctic Bison 2015, so the details of what had been planned were well known. It was easy to see that a military operation over and on the lake could generate some UFO stories, so that seemed to explain the actual UFO sightings (or alleged UFO sightings, since no reports have been filed by any witnesses; all we have are second-hand stories that some lights and/or a craft was seen).

    But what happened that night turned out to be exactly the Search and Rescue mission the military was training for!

    The PR guy from the Air Force replied to me in a very open and straightforward manner, giving many details and providing links to photos of what transpired. (Of course, conspiracy buffs will insist that this transparency is exactly what the government would do as part of a disinformation scheme, but that’s for others to debate elsewhere.)

    Derek, the military PR guy, wrote:
    “I really appreciate you looking into this a little further and looking for confirmed facts – as you can imagine, we’ve heard some pretty wild things this past week.”
    [Conspiracy buffs note: “The military thanking a UFO researcher. Yeah, as if that would ever happen.”]

    Immediately, Derek answered a question that some UFO buffs were asking, namely, “What aircraft was seen?” He replied:
    “The aircraft involved in the exercise was a Twin Otter from 440 Squadron - great plane for this terrain, you can see it on the ice on our Flickr. I had a chance to fly in it and land on the lake with the skis - very cool experience…”
    And here’s the plane:



    Yes, that’s right, we have a photo of the plane. Because the military has a Flickr account. Why?
    “I was out with a camera team from Shaw on Thursday, which was the last day the Twin Otter was participating (flew back to Yellowknife on Friday I believe). This is some of the irony - we have nothing to hide, in fact we're trying to tell as many Manitobans/Canadians as possible what we're up to! Thus the Flickr site, news release, media visit...my job in general!”
    He recognized the irony; the military thought it was being as transparent as possible, and still, hoaxers decided this was an opportunity to enflame conspiracy buffs about a non-existent cover-up! (Shaw, BTW, is a TV network in Canada.)

    Here's another photo from the military operation:



    And yes, not only do they have a Flickr account, they’re also on Facebook and they even invited a TV news camera crew to be embedded during the training exercises. Not your usual cover-up and lockdown technique.

    Oh, and James Bezan (left), the local member of the Canadian Parliament and also Secretary to the Minister of Defence was also present when Arctic Bison 2015 was begun and briefed on the entire exercise:



    So this was all planned long in advance of anything ever being reported from Jackhead. The news release went out on the 17th, the day before, but the environmental assessment had been conducted long before. (I can imagine trying to get someone from the Defence department out to inspect the troops takes some planning.)

    However, what happened at Jackhead? Well, it turns out that, as I had reasoned, the military operations had nothing to do with the community onshore―until there was a snag.

    I mentioned this was extreme weather conditions, right? In fact, so extreme, the military’s own snowmobiles broke down! (Good thing they were doing the exercise for practice!)

    Derek explained:
    “Some of the confusion stemmed from the original route not passing through/by Jackhead. We had not made contact with the community leaders there in advance. Once snowmobiles stopped working due to extreme cold, we needed road access to get them off the lake―this happened to be Jackhead. As soon as we knew we would have trucks passing through Jackhead, I advised my boss to make contact with the local leaders to let them know.”
    So, as their news release explains, they normally liaise with local communities they will be approaching, but since they had not planned to go to Jackhead, they didn’t do that. Until they were in serious trouble.

    Hence, the military trucks on the Jackhead road and entering the community. But they did ask when it happened, apparently, since it was an emergency.

    And as for the stories of photos and “evacuation”… Derek noted:
    “As for restricting access, telling people to stay away, or not to take photos―I would be surprised if anything remotely like this happened. I did hear some of the troops were nervous when they came across people taking photos, but only because they thought they were being scouted to potentially have their gear stolen.”

    (Incidentally, that actually has occurred in other situations!)

    So, whether or not you believe the military explanation, it does fill in many details and answer many of the questions people have about the Jackhead incident. Witnesses may have seen the plane take off and land, and that would explain the observations of lights either ascending or descending. (Again, however, no one has actually made a report to this effect.)

    As for the stories of UFOs over the lake and Jackhead on February 22, the last day of the military exercise, I had thought that this could have been from the wrap-up of the operations at Gimli, perhaps flying past Jackhead.

    Derek noted:
    “Feb 22nd was somewhat the last day in the sense that everything was wrapped up and everyone on the road back to their hometowns. The Arctic Response Company Group is made up of Reservist soldiers from across Sask, Man, NW Ont. Everyone was back to Winnipeg by last night (except maybe some last minute cleanup of the headquarters in Gimli), so any activity on the lake last night would not have been us. I am aware of search and rescue training done by the SAR squadrons in the Lake Winnipeg area (I believe you mention this on your site), but not sure about last night.”

    So it wasn’t them, if anything was seen at all.

    Why am I doubting the reports of UFO activity? Because the reports of UFOs seen may be themselves hoaxes.

    Derek pointed out:
    “Finally, one of the photos of the lake is blatantly photoshopped. I googled 'frozen lake winnipeg' to show someone what pressure ridges look like, and lo and behold there's one of the photos but without the foreign object on it.”

    He provided the link: http://betweenbrushstrokes.com/2012/...g-in-february/

    And sure enough, if you compare the photo of broken ice on the lake with the accompanying “crashed UFO” that has been circulating, with the photo taken by a nature photographer three years ago, they match.




    So, whomever uploaded the “UFO crash” photo deliberately extended the hoax by photoshopping a "stepped pyramid" spacecraft into the original photo. Go ahead, take some time to play with the images and line them up. I'll wait.

    And here's the "artists' conception" of the crashed spacecraft.



    Okay, since some of the verbiage regarding witnesses seeing UFOs and being evacuated and told not to say anything, etc., was in accompaniment of the hoax UFO crash photo, I wonder if any of it is true.

    In summary: there was no UFO crash. There were military exercises. No one on Jackhead was carted off or anything for taking photos of a crash that didn't occur. It's all a series of fabrications.

    The Internet is broken.

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