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    Wrote a very short article on transhumanism ethics. I will write about it more on this website... I'd like to mention or at least downplay the negative response to hearing of "benevolent mind control". It is an unheard of subject for the most part, and the NLP(AKA programming behind the word) of "mind control" is so strong people will probably just have a reaction of cognitive dissonance to hearing such a thing. I can respect that, but after experiencing extraterrestrial technology of mind control used in entertaining ways(I'm sure is wildly unpopular at this time, but in 5,000 years I may be historic for being the first to speak of it honestly[if I am the first]). Some benevolent mind control I can convey I fully agree with participating in(if anyone is even open minded enough to consider such a thing) is mind control that puts the exact conscious variables into one's experience that another being is emitting. To put it in a much less controversial NLP, it is simply interfacing another being's mind via electronic telepathy, and from my experiences is ridiculously entertaining...

    Anyway, with that preface, here is the article...

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    This wont be a long article but I think I can pack potency into a small amount of text in this article... I will probably write more articles on transhumanism ethics on this website in the future, as it is a pretty deep subject.

    Public implementation of transhumanism should involve 100% Free Will in all cases(The issue of making decisions for babies is a sensitive one, I would be gaffed at anti-abortionists deciding to chip their babies......). Currently I would say a large portion of the world(at least hundreds of millions, and that is the very low end estimate) have had transhuman moments in their lives... To put it in a very concise nutshell: The shadow governments use covert transhumanism technology on the public.

    What Should Be Known Before Becoming Transhuman in any way(minus extreme ways like contact lenses that send information to the brain for the blind):
    Optimally for all decisions based on using technology, especially things like benevolent mind control, one would have access to 100% knowledge on what it does to one's soul, genetics, and psychology. This would take global first contact with extraterrestrials to accomplish...
    Source link: http://www.covert-transhumanism.com/...sm-ethics.html

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    The development of Technology is impossible to stop, whether it is human innovation or copying ET technology. Unfortunately much of the development of advanced technology is the hands of the Military Industrial a Complex and hence Illuminati /Cabal who have a tendency to weaponise everything for profit and power.

    In essence any advanced technology in the wrongs hands poses a threat to mankind and as such is unethical. Until the Illuminati / Cabal / Reptilian influence are removed it is difficult and naive to trust anything from our Governments.

    Broadly speaking I'm not opposed to the merging technology and mankind providing it is done ethically and in the open, but, we are genetically programmed to expect reward / money for human ingenuity so we can survive / live to the highest standard possible, ego.

    Until we get a fundamental change in our culture and how we use and view money we are faced with the same old question throughout history, should we continue to be ruled by a few psychopathic Elites or will we ever be allowed to Govern ourselves. So far humanity appears to like be ruled by a few Elites so not much can or ever will change.
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    There is being help by using technologies, and there is transhumanism. There is no ethics in transhumanism, Omni, none whatsoever.

    To be calling friends of business Partner with my IPhone or Skype with you is being helped. To integrate technologies to my being in order to change me towards "evolution" is not becoming more human but becoming a technological thing.

    The definition of transhumanism is being converted into a mind/body/machine. Moral and ethics will have nothing to do with it because transhumanism is not human - to have moral or ethic, it has to be human by definition.

    Just thinking of transhumanism ethics is admitting that we agree with transhumanism to start with, and then want to apply something. And it is not to be agreed with if we want to remain human.

    Everything technology can give us, individual and spiritual evolution can as well and more. Technology is just a temporary helper while we attain further inner development so that we will not need any of it any more either. Then the ethic and moral has its place.

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    Quote So far humanity appears to like be ruled by a few Elites so not much can or ever will change.
    Ever will is a strong comment. I have strong faith(and not blind faith at all) that humanity will overcome the "elite" eventually. Great point that they weaponize everything... Even if humanity is never able to dislodge the elite, something like global first contact would provide the transparency needed for the masses to see that things need to change. I don't see that as ETs saving us as much as just providing the mind controlled masses the tools to see through their stupor ...

    I have spoken to many races that said they went through similar things early in their development. They turned out fine mostly. They said some people on their world's are still kind of delusional. But they attained peace and eventually dislodged their brutal draco set up families..

    The "elite" have great technological assets to use at will(minus some exopolitical restrictions), but they can't stop natural progression. Natural progression through soulular means the evolution is eventually more enlightenment. Our genetics are under attack by the "elite" and the Reptilian dark 'empire'. The better genetics on a planet the more evolved souls incarnate there.

    It's a slow battle with much suffering but humanity will eventually overcome IMHO.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    There is being help by using technologies, and there is transhumanism. There is no ethics in transhumanism, Omni, none whatsoever.
    My definition of transhumanism is more reasonable then the 'official' definition IMHO. It involves a balance. It is more reaonable IMO to use it under the definition of "Infusing a being with technology" rather than current definitions. I'm sorry I wasn't more clear of that at the beginning of my posts. It is in the about of the website.

    Quote To integrate technologies to my being in order to change me towards "evolution" is not becoming more human but becoming a technological thing.
    "Humans" have been being infused with technology since our creation. It is not just part of our future, but part of our past too. But this is a pretty huge secret, that many have been influenced by technology that interfaces mentally. Tesla spoke of open one's mind and receiving thoughts 'from the universe'. I'm sure it could be seen as natural. However having access to the knowledge and experiences I do I see that technology can do such things as well. And benevolent ETs indeed do seed thoughts to help shape our society.

    Becoming infused with technology doesn't make you inhuman. Your views are not ones with direct experience with these things. More an outsiders view of it. If you had experienced them you would know you maintain your humanity when experiencing things like virtual reality etc... Electronic telepathy is superior to natural telepathy in many ways. Many angelic type ETs use electronic telepathy even if they could do such naturally. For example sending messages to each other not in real time. Or sending messages over long distances(just going by what people describe as the natural laws of natural telepathy).

    The resistance to infusing with technology, is done by people who have not experienced it in depth. Simple as that. It's a natural part of development for a race to develop and integrate with technology in my view. Nothing can avoid it on any complex world's development. I totally respect those who do not want to integrate with technology. But a being that uses electronic telepathy does not lose their 'humanity' at all...

    Quote The definition of transhumanism is being converted into a mind/body/machine. Moral and ethics will have nothing to do with it because transhumanism is not human - to have moral or ethic, it has to be human by definition.
    I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. Sometimes I redfine words I see to a better definition. This is from the about page on the website this is posted on:

    Quote About
    First let me define transhumanism for those who may not be fully clear. The common definition for transhumanism is flawed [IMO]. My definition for transhumanism, is this:

    Transhumanism: The Infusion of a being with technology. (often being mind control technology)


    This website is about exposing the shadow government's covert technological machinations....
    Quote Just thinking of transhumanism ethics is admitting that we agree with transhumanism to start with, and then want to apply something. And it is not to be agreed with if we want to remain human.
    Incorrect. Humanity will develop these things, period. Talking about the ethics of them does not mean you agree with them at all.

    Quote Everything technology can give us, individual and spiritual evolution can as well and more.
    I'm not aware of any way you can be another being 100% feeling what they feel without technology(virtual reality, or fully interfacing with another being's mind). At least not in my current state...

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    Quote Everything technology can give us, individual and spiritual evolution can as well and more.
    One thing I'm not sure any natural thing can reproduce is the virtual reality experience of 'being an explosion'. Quite an amazing experience. Being a sound is pretty cool too... I see virtual reality and electronic telepathy as absolutely fine personally. I do not lose my humanity because of such things. I am still human, just with extra dimensions of consciousness accessible(which comes naturally as well, I do both).

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    Upon thinking about this a little more, providing ability to be lots of things instead of human(just temporarily in an educational or entertainment/spiritual type of way) is exactly what electronic telepathy provides when interfacing with another beings consciousness. So maybe confining one's consciousness to only human is more a limiting thing instead of a bad thing.. All a matter of perspective really, and with electronic telepathy tech you can learn every perspective in the universe. Pretty amazing technology IMHO.

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    I agree with you flash, there is no ethics in transhumanism at all ! I am transhuman and I am not enjoying it ! I AM BEING TORTURED TO DEATH BY IT LITERALLY.I DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE IN IT EITHER,AS IT WAS FORCED UPON ME! . I DO NOT LIKE HAVING PLASTIC SKIN , LOOKING GREY, HAVING METALLIC SPECS AND NANOS COMING OUT OF MY FACE,HIGH PITCHED RINGING FROM HELL ! BEING MIND CONTROLLED AT TIMES.HAVING MY DREAMS INVADED ON A NIGHTLY BASIS.ALTHOUGH I KNOW WHAT OMNI MEANS ABOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT FACTOR. AS MY DREAMS ARE INTERACTIVE LIKE VIRTUAL REALITY .THE DREAMS ARE SO RIDICULOUS AT TIMES THEY ARE COMICAL.tHE ONLY POSITIVE THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT i AM NOT AGING VERY MUCH AND I CAN SUPER HEAL UP AFTER INJURIES OR CUTS. I AM RARELY SICK WITH A COLD OR FLU . i FEEL ILL ALL THETIME THO.i AM CONSTANTLY TRYING TO DETOX AS TO NOT DIE OR BE COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED .THIS IS A WEAPON AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IN EVERYONE ALREADY,THEY ARE JUST WAITING TO USE IT .I AM SPIRITUALLY NOT THE SAME ,MORALLY OR EMOTIONALLY. I STILL FEEL HUMAN THO.IN MY OPINION YOU DO NOT REQUIRE TRANSHUMANISM TO SPIRITUALLY EVOLVE. I HAVE SPIRITUALLLY EVOLVED AND HAVE BECOME AWAKENED BY THIS EXPERIENCE. IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE NANOS IN MY BODY THO . TO HAVE NO CONTROL OVER YOURSELF IS NOT FREEDOM BY ANY MEANS ON ANY LEVELS
    Couldn't agree with you more about a lot of that. Thanks for the post.

    You are experiencing the negative side of it. I know that side of it well. Most of my content about it is about that side of it.

    If I hadn't had ET contact showing me technology that is quite amazing(like chakra altering technology) I would have probably the same view as you.

    Probably not the best idea of me to try to explain the good side of technology though on Avalon. I doubt many can discern it, if anyone.

    And there is no ethics in the cabal's version of transhumanism. In ET versions of technology infusion with consciousness there is ethics. And these are issues coming down the pipeline for humanity. Ethics of it will be a big test for humanity IMHO. It is a very valid premise in my view....
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    There is not ethics in transhumanism Omni. But there can be ethics in technology usage.

    When anything is being built for control of others, in any ways, there is no more ethics in it. Furthermore, too much technologies before humans are spiritually ready may stop their évolutions, and this is the main target IMO.

    If anything being built has made someone suffer without his acknowledgement and agreement, ethics is gone. ANd please bad ETs, do not give me the crap that our soul had said yes to that. I do not think anybody can grow a lot with too much pain. Too much pain shrinks the being, it does not help him, usually.

    Plain mommy like understanding here. IF you have raised a kid, you know that too much anger/pain/screams/etc will kill the developing flower.

    I am sorry Stewarliam and Omniverse for the pain you had.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    There is not ethics in transhumanism Omni. But there can be ethics in technology usage.

    When anything is being built for control of others, in any ways, there is no more ethics in it. Furthermore, too much technologies before humans are spiritually ready may stop their évolutions, and this is the main target IMO.

    If anything being built has made someone suffer without his acknowledgement and agreement, ethics is gone. ANd please bad ETs, do not give me the crap that our soul had said yes to that. I do not think anybody can grow a lot with too much pain. Too much pain shrinks the being, it does not help him, usually.

    Plain mommy like understanding here. IF you have raised a kid, you know that too much anger/pain/screams/etc will kill the developing flower.

    I am sorry Stewarliam and Omniverse for the pain you had.
    I totally see your point of view and see many valid points. However it seems like the lack of ethics in transhumanism is the problem... In the world today there is no real ethics with transhumanism. If there were nobody would be controlling and torturing other beings with this technology. If there were ethics applied to it, things would be different. So I disagree ethics cannot be applied to interfacing with technology.

    But like I said, we have differing definitions of what transhumanism is. I find no word explains infusion with technology, and find the standard definition of transhumanism wrong personally(after much experience with this tech). It doesn't really imply mind control, which is part of transhumanism IMHO. Perhaps even deliberately steered away from implying mind control... And for the record I am against all forms of human made transhumanism. It is only the elder ETs i would trust with this technology.

    Also, one can grow just fine with excess torture I have found. It's just it takes a massive amount of it to become somewhat immune to it. I am mostly immune to torture now other than the actual suffering. It doesnt affect me emotionally/psychologically anymore really. I have grown when it comes to discerning reality as result of all this technology used on me. I have seen the technological capabilities first hand, so I can discern when they are behind a case better than most I'd say...

    Quote .I TOTALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MY SOUL SAID YES TO THIS HELL
    I agree with both you and flash regarding this. However an ET starseed fully knows what is possible when incarnating on a world like this. So I feel I was informed about what could happen(like what has happened to me), and made an informed decision. IMHO there are things such as victims. I am one of the largest victims around. However I perfer the word target. I am not stuck in a victims mindset. I have mostly detached from all caring of my situation. It was too traumatizing to bear when I cared too much about this stuff. My natural reaction was to turn off to it, and detach.

    I feel as long as one stays true to themselves and isn't deluded by false programming the soul is gaining when targeted in ways. Not that I'm saying I want to be targeted at all. But there are subtle benefits to even the most dark things.

    "There are Victories Of the Soul and Spirit. Sometimes Even When You Lose You Win" ~Elie Wiesel Auschwitz Survivor
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    Quote Posted by Omniverse (here)
    To put it in a very concise nutshell: The shadow governments use covert transhumanism technology on the public.
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    Quote Posted by Omniverse (here)
    To put it in a very concise nutshell: The shadow governments use covert transhumanism technology on the public.
    The simple use of logic shows they would be doing this. Unless you think they stopped mind control research back in the 70s, as is the official story. It is very safely assumed they continued on with their technology progression behind the scenes, and they indeed use it on the public.

    I know they mind control people with this technology.. It has been proven to me, so I know it's a fact...

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    what a shame.

    proven how? demonstrated on you or a third party?
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    what a shame.

    proven how? demonstrated on you or a third party?
    Demonstrated on me, as well as demonstrated on other people.
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    could you describe that experience for us a bit?

    what did they do to gain control over you? how was the manipulation then triggered and how did you feel etc?

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    Quote Posted by Ikarusion (here)
    could you describe that experience for us a bit?

    what did they do to gain control over you? how was the manipulation then triggered and how did you feel etc?

    cheers
    Ikarusion, go on Omniverse's name, a window will open telling : pm, view forum posts, push on it, you will have tons of posts, over many years, where he describes what happened to him - and the roll out has change over years, you will be able to perceive a difference, from totally submerged by what he calls torture (which may as well be what it really is) to what he calls help from good ET and becoming able to handle it. His writing style changes as well correspondingly.

    If you go on his name and push and get into his personal description, you will see on the left handside a place that says all threads, You can as well go there to see what he started as threads, and they are numerous.

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    Just saw this article on David Ickes headline page, I don't know
    if its any good ? But just noticed this thread pop up as I'm
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    A New Way To Be Human: The Plan Is To Replace Existing Humans With ‘Transhuman’ Hybrids

    Thursday 12th March 2015 at 09:37 By David Icke





    ‘Transhumanists believe that the time has come for humans to take
    control of their own evolution. Many of them are fully convinced that
    we can use emerging technologies to “fix” the flaws in the human
    race and ultimately eradicate sickness, disease, poverty and war.
    So would you like to have the eyesight of an eagle? Would you like
    to download an entire library of information directly into your brain
    in just minutes? Would you like to rid your family line of all genetic
    diseases? Would you like to extend your lifespan to 500 years or
    even longer?

    Transhumanists promise that all of these things will soon be possible,
    if we are willing to embrace a new way of doing things. They foresee a
    future in which we will all have lots of little nanobots running around
    inside of us, in which we are all connected directly to the Internet, and
    in which we have all been genetically modified to at least some degree.

    In fact, one prominent transhumanist recently stated that he believes
    that “eventually every human will be designed on a computer“. In the
    end, the goal is to produce a vastly improved version of the human
    race which will usher in a golden new age for the planet. But as we
    merge ourselves with animals, machines and weird new technologies
    that scientists cook up, at what point do we cease to be human?’

    Read more: A New Way To Be Human: The Plan Is To Replace Existing
    Humans With ‘Transhuman’ Hybrids

    http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...shuman-hybrids

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