triquetra

[triquetra]

Overview
- This thread interlaces with one and only one other thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-the-forum...-
- Symbolic representation of this thread is the three outer leaves of the triquetra symbol (triquetras don't generally have inner circles, see my avatar).
- Symbolic representation of the other thread is the inner circle, representing Avalon.

Syncretized knowledge needed in 2016-
- Many trying to piece things together at this time
- There has been an effort to coerce the population into adopting an "us vs them" mentality
- 4th way teachings warn against this (way of monk+yogi+fakir+more)
- mental/physical/spiritual/biological alignment needed for what's coming

What is the triquetra
- symbolizes the syncretization of three ways to form a fourth.
- can apply to Gurdjieff's teachings, but also, in this case:
- syncretic understanding of the interconnections between science, art, spirituality
- thus, triquetra is building blocks/framework for this unified body of knowledge
- Avalon is target to aim for in translating knowledge into action

What is the harmonic lattice
- after mental/physical/spiritual/biological alignment, a lattice node is created via individuals purely resonating bio-state (like a tuning fork..)
- these nodes can be joined by resonating in alignment with other aligned individuals, whether in-person or remotely (group meditations, etc)
- one level of increased ability occurs when individually aligned (i.e. Remote Influencing for smaller personal goals/tools/etc)
- another level occurs with group alignments (larger Remote Influencing for global/reality adjustments)
- the harmonic lattice is a kind of inter-dimensional transporter at its most potent, but this likely requires the same kind of critical mass (numbers of aligned individuals) as other joint meditation research has already proven (thousands+)
- group coordination can be amplified by using appropriate structures, from sound design to light and body vibration, all the way to physical architecture.
- there are endless examples of great efforts in bygone times to create such structures using the exact same principles
- these are based in extremely sound mathematical and acoustic principles (stonehenge, newgrange, ancient dolmens, some modern structures as well)
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/pdfs/...structures.pdf

What is the harmonic lattice being used to "escape" from
- should be generally known by most reading this by this point
- more information to be provided regarding the time loops/traps that explain why history repeats again and again when we don't escape

Where do we go from here
- Large quantity of text to be shared exploring the 6(7) forms of connection between science, art, spirituality
- This theory in turn helps facilitate the alignment process occurring in individual meditation/personal development
- Aligned individuals can participate in group sessions to amplify their influencing potential
- Experienced group session members can participate in the experiments involving physical structures, extremely precise synchronizations, and then experience dimensional transfer
- Dimensional transfer process will then exponentially increase the pace of this last part of the project to assist others in their return to Avalon

[triquetra]

triquetra

Overview
- Understanding the three-expanding-spheres analogy
-- spirituality as the vanguard for discovery of reality, when intelligent life knows nothing about its surrounding reality, the first intelligent step is to proclaim involvement of higher forces. spirituality is the outermost expanding sphere after the metaphorical "big bang" (4D time loop start point)
-- art as middle expanding sphere, following behind spirituality. as understanding improves, knowledge shifts from spiritual understanding to artistic understanding (fire shifts from something being witnessed with awe to being able to be controlled, but only in particular situations with particular combination of rough tools)
-- science as the third and last expanding sphere, following behind both spirituality and art, where artistic understanding improves to become scientific understanding (fire can now be produced reliably with specific tool(s))

BOOK 1
Foreword
- The relationship between art and science is the most readily understood in the present era, whereas our understanding of spirituality is a shadow or what it was only a century ago.
- The implications of work done in binding the relationship of these two pillars will allow for a context within which the understanding of spirituality can be based, as it relates to art (Book 2), and science (Book 3)

Part 1. The Science of Art
- The purpose of the Part 1 of this book is to first establish an understanding of what elements from Science must be done to establish a modicum of practice in the "potent" Arts, as opposed to the "benign" Arts which are most heavily practiced in the modern era.- Key relationship between mathematical alignments across sound vibration, tactile vibration, light waves, physical structure, and the resulting impact on brainwaves and other parts of biostate
- Above principles combine with actual artistic creations through intention - to heal, to relax, to excite, or even to transport

Part 2. The Art of Science
- The purpose of Part 2 of this book is to then establish what elements of Art best serve the advancement of "potent" Science, science which furthers the objectives of understanding the interconnections between all aspects of reality, rather than persisting in deepening the understanding of individual aspects of reality independent of all others.
- This is because that side of science has been developed sufficiently for our purposes already while the science of interconnections between aspects of reality is severely underdeveloped in comparison. The latter requires much more influence from Artistic approaches as it joins pillars of knowledge rather than building individual pillars a little bit higher.
- As such, section highlights the underlying principles behind the forms of creative thinking that lead to interdisciplinary scientific discovery
- Assisting scientific types open to this form of research to master the brainwave states needed to maximize creative potential is crucial
- Moments of scientific breakthrough indicate the same mental states found in artists creating masterpieces
- By understanding the discovery process across hundreds and thousands of years in civilization, we can conclude that we should never be too certain of our models of reality, there is always more to discover
- This highlights the tragedy of extreme skeptics, falling into flat-earth mentalities when perpetual open-mindedness is the way to maximizing breakthroughs
- Concludes with key formula for scientists to take artistic approaches in interdisciplinary research within reach of their fields of specialization, without sacrificing rigor

BOOK 2
Foreword
- The relationship between spirituality and art is next most readily understood in the modern era.
- In binding these two pillars of knowledge together, a further support structure can be added to better understand topics in Book 3

Part 3. The Spirituality of Art
- Distinguishing forms of art by their spiritual potency
- Taking in spiritual art to achieve goals of [Part 1.] using simpler, traditional means
- Understanding the mirror between [Part 2.] and [Part 3.] - how artists open their channel when creating with spiritual intention, while scientists open their channel when discovering with artistic intention
- Recognizing anti-art which mocks spiritual art creation by creating while severing the tie to higher guiding forces

Part 4. The Art of Spirituality
- Syncretic study of all forms of spirituality
- Understanding the 'safety' of pure spirituality compared to named religion
- Understanding the validity of taking "all that is good" from religions an individual has ties to, as well as any others, while dismissing added baggage religion took on long after the founding prophet was no longer on this earth
- Finding peace in practicing any flavor of the above and considering it equivalent in practicality to any other similar flavor - pure spirituality and refined religion as equivalent
- Understanding that all pure forms of spirituality/religion would never have insisted on dystopian end times, as they are contradictory to the desire to teach ascension steps. Ascended populations are logically incompatible with dystopian end times
- Understanding that the exact inverse of such end times is the real reality ahead

BOOK 3
Foreword

- Mourvieff's Gnosis Book 1 Introduction suggests "only the synthesis of these two branches of knowledge (Science and Spirituality) can now resolve the problem of man, and that on this solution depends the solution of all other contemporary problems."
- This is because according to the expanding spheres analogy, this is where the extreme ends of the single spectrum of knowledge wrap around upon itself to meet one another, as symbolized by the ouroboros.
- An expressed ability to understand this relationship and act upon it means to build technology on a principle of firm scientific reasoning with spiritual aims with such accuracy and potency so as to realize them.
- This was described by Scriabin as the Mysterium
- Understood differently, it is the connection between Alpha and Omega. As concludes the Book 1 Introduction of Gnosis, "It is the intention of the present work to show the path which leads towards the Omega."
- As concludes Book 3 of the triquetra, "It is the intention of the present work to arrive at the Omega and (re)connect it to the Alpha."

Part 5. The Science of Spirituality
- Drawing from [1.-4.] to understand the scientific function spirituality plays across meta-reality for the higher self, as experienced across multiple incarnations/lifetimes/soul fragmentations/soul unifications/body types/lots in life
- Understanding how breakthroughs occur in spiritual science at the meta-level, such as better understandings of the relationships between 3D-4D-5D as witnessed in past and current civilizations/planets

Part 6. The Spirituality of Science
- Expansion of [2.] to explain ontological expansions of reality as guided by spirituality-driven science, i.e., why there is always more to discover
- Distinguishing between artistic approaches to science which leads to breakthroughs in any field, compared with spiritual approaches to science which pull together fields to form unified models that better explain why larger and larger models of reality continuously make sense
- Understanding that with no limit to this expansion process, vectors "away from" and "towards" Prime Creator source both lead back to Prime Creator even if neither ever reaches
- Why this process is worthwhile even if there is no ultimate destination that can ever be well defined

(7. Avalon. Science-Art-Spirituality-(ouroboros))
- Understanding...

[Mark]

Good luck.

There have been a good number of individuals who have chugged through PA with similar claims.

You have certainly chosen a venue that is going to come at you hard and fast. As you say, it will become clear by your words and what underlies them what your orientation may be and what your intentions truly are. On the way, your claim to have achieved a higher state of spiritual understanding will become clear by your reactions to those who test you and your info.

I congratulate you on your high aspirations and the content of your gnosis. I look forward to bearing witness to your progress.

[CD7]

In all honesty im trying to figure out where your going with your threads...(the two ive read) The Avalon thread very interesting information discussing connections between the word 'Avalon' and different ideals/beliefs...I did very much connect "inbetween" the lines somehow with your words in the Avalon thread...meaning I felt something beyond the words

Your history isn't as important to me as your point/purpose/agenda...

Building a lattice over a number of years...is this basically your goal?

[triquetra]

Notes #1 to shift to drafting area

- earth is located in a particular location in the galaxy and universe that is unique.

- the music of the spheres determined by kepler indicates something to this effect (ratios of angular momentum of planets relative to the sun comprises a harmonic signature for the solar system, milky way relative to galaxy similarly, galaxy to universe similarly).

- waveforms behave identically no matter where you observe them along the frequency spectrum (also whether electromagnetic or mechanical).

- dimensional or density ascension occurs in not some kind of supernatural way but is simply the uncovering of an understanding of what is already there.

- there is a way to describe reality in terms of five dimensions instead of four that is probably the right place to start.

- the fifth dimension is a kind of fractal zoom dimension that if traveled along will increase or decrease the speed of the passage of time and will also zoom in or out of 3d space.

- (spiritual) travel along this vector is completely possible, you don't "time travel" you speed up or slow down time by traveling along the fractal vector and time travels itself.

- so you have along this vector a subspectrum of it that is our constantly expanding interpretation of reality, from the smallest sub-atomic particles to the largest concepts i.e. the universe.

- a harmonic lattice is accomplished when you create the right conditions for a kind of "universal masterpiece" (a Mysterium) which is the correct combination of waveforms all along this subspectrum.

- it involves the rules of music as applied equally to patterns of light and vibrations you can feel with your body. it is transmitted wirelessly along radio channels that themselves are in phase alignment with everything else, and is tuned to extremely low frequency vibrations as are naturally generated by the planet, the solar system and so forth.

- your biology is entrained to vibrate equivalently to the same patterns and extremely high frequencies above the visual spectrum are also brought into alignment at the very end of the activation process of the harmonic lattice.

[triquetra]

i think the best thing to do next will be to teach a particular breathing technique for meditation that will allow you to preview the harmonic lattice. if you do it right you are guaranteed an out of body experience, 100% of the time (if you are biologically aligned, you need to be in fairly good health and of fairly good intent). I'll repost the original instructions from the forum that was used for the training years

Steps for the Technique:

TODO: Put a better description of the technique in this place.

[triquetra]

[First draft of meditation technique posted to this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post961172 ]

[CD7]

your biology is entrained to vibrate equivalently to the same patterns and extremely high frequencies above the visual spectrum are also brought into alignment at the very end of the activation process of the harmonic lattice.

does this information naturally resonate somehow with any forum members? do you somehow distantly recall doing this all before? has anyone watched the movie cloud atlas?

Yes...I feel fortunate to have touched briefly the experience with vibration/meditation knowing theres more our body/mind/soul can do/experience. Ive felt extremely high vibration within, almost electrical in nature...

Unfortunately practices were hampered and the potential of possibilities gained/learned only went so far. As it is now your discussing these things and its all great and wonderful...always has my interest. However my focus now is the most BASIC of survival....this ****hole has me solely focused on physical survival. Cultivating consciousness unfortunately is coming from fear....not the most healthy form of existence

And for those who think people do this to themselves via consciousness...im tired of that one. If theres a plot of poisoned soil and seeds are thrown in to grow and grow like crap and then someone says its your fault you grew like crap must be your own consciousness....NO ITS THE FOUNDATION from whence the consciousness growssssss

Im interested to play along here just not certain how regular I can be....

[Heartsong]

Triquetra, Thank you for the thread. It will be interesting reading and I'm looking forward to it.

For starters, would you give us the English pronunciation of "triquetra"? I stumble as I read it trying a quasi English/French hybrid.

Also, you use the abbreviations RV, ARVARI, and RI . Spelling these out would be helpful.

And, would you clarify your goal in posting this interesting information? Are you looking for an educated public, independent activists, or perhaps followers?

[triquetra]

triquetra is pronounced like "tri-kwe-tra"

RV - Remote Viewing
ARVARI - Academy of Remote Viewing And Remote Influencing
RI - Remote Influencing

goal - interactive book writing! from there, building. a whole lot of building and events! synaesthetic events. Entering portals to change density.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

RE: Survival - we are hitting the lowest point of the cubic function but it will start to pull up even as the other branch keeps going down (the parabolic function). for some it has risen already.

if anyone or anything has gotten a hold of your ankle, it is hard to keep rising along the cubic function. drowning people often (sometimes unintentionally, sometimes intentionally) pull others down with them. Get loose!

I'm here to help anyone, besides writing this book

[triquetra]

[unanswered question]

[Flash]

Posted by triquetra (here)

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Good luck.

There have been a good number of individuals who have chugged through PA with similar claims.

Who were they? Did you figure out or guess what their real intentions were? Trying to feel important? Misguided? Too soon?

Was one of those times in early 2009? I was trying to help out as phied piper but also saw it was too soon. I forget their name but they moved to Australia for some reason.

Triquetra, tell me, if you do not mind, what is your personal background in terms of research in these fields (spiritual, academic, personal) and how you came to the understanding that now is the time?

And how could we discern, us layman, between those who have a very good talk but are doing it to feel important, or are misguided?

Setting the table before serving could help eat the food and have a good digestion

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I have much more questions stemming from your post number 5, (I mark it here for my own reference) but they will come later.

[triquetra]

Overview of purechannel theory

The only answer to that is provided via the "human internet". You would connect to it and discern the source energy behind the provision of information from the source it came from.

An individual could think about how an audience would react and preemptively behave and speak in such a way that they generated in a chameleonic manner the very kind of atmosphere that the audience would treat in a receptive manner.

What you would find instead from an aligned source of information is more like a white-wash of energy, a kind of white noise that does not hide any ulterior motives behind the communication. There is a kind of dullness of the messenger that implies they are setting aside every aspect of their essence in exchange for a communication channel that is without dilution. They appear impartial in a sense, but at the same time you would gather that they have collected every aspect of their essence towards a motivation that originates beyond them.

That, in a sense, is the very definition of mediumship. Do not trust any source which does not display that particular energy.

[Selkie]

Posted by CD7 (here)
...is this basically your goal?

He already indicated quite clearly in his opening post that he intends to hijack this whole forum, mods and members, for his own purposes.

an addition: I did not mean this in a snooty, superior, or condescending way.

[Flash]

To Silkie

F s h i t. Why would we ever listen to John Lamb Lash? Very instructive on whom the being is.

Thanks triquetra.

I would correct the overtakin of the forum by overtakin 3 threads to do so.

However my question was no truly answered.

I also have a different view about the feelings of whitewash while checkkng the energies.

Well, lets see.

[Selkie]

Posted by Flash (here)
To Silkie

F s h i t. Why would we ever listen to John Lamb Lash? Very instructive on whom the being is.

Thanks triquetra.

I would correct the overtakin of the forum by overtakin 3 threads to do so.

However my question was no truly answered.

I also have a different view about the feelings of whitewash while checkkng the energies.

Well, lets see.

I'm sorry, Flash, but I don't quite understand what you mean. I replied, quite accurately, I think, to CD7's question, that's all. In his first and second post, Triquetra indicated quite clearly that he intends to take over this forum. In my reply to CD7, I did not indicate any judgment or opinion about that, one way or the other. Nor did I say that I think the material he is posting is not valuable in some respects.

But about John Lash? Well, of course! That is why I replied to Bill Ryan's post about him in the first place.

an addition: Lash's mask started to slip publicly when he started ranting about the Jews. Before that, he was not the hate-and-fear monger he is now.

another addition: I think I see what you mean, Flash. Are you saying that even if he tried to take the forum over, you could take it back by taking over three threads? That is probably true . Sorry about not understanding.

[Delight]

Posted by triquetra (here)
Hello everyone,

I'lll keep this at this thread and the other one until the job gets done.

I'll link to that thread now

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-the-forum...-

It seems that a great many are trying to piece things all together and there is a general consensus around an oppositional standpoint, the "us vs them". This is completely understandable.

But as the 4th way would teach, we really *have to set that aside* to find the needed biological alignment for what's coming.

triquetra is the building blocks, the framework for what we need to do, and Avalon is the target, the bulls-eye to shoot through in order to activate the harmonic lattice and earn our way out of this gradually deteriorating experience as the long cycle comes to an end.

- The bible, like many other texts, is filled with endless amounts of "truths" that have been faded in its original meaning over time

- The original document was meant to maintain a record of how to avoid being trapped in long cycles

-- The fall from Eden is the decision to cooperate with the alien entities who test the progression of souls by trying to trap them here, by convincing them to give in to a way of using the mind that is polarized heavily to one side at the expense of the other.

-- There was other information that represented exactly the opposite - falling sway to using only the other side of the mind at the expense of the first.

-- One way leads to a competitive and dangerous attitude bent on claiming control and possession, rivalry and coercing things into submission, gaining mastery over things and asserting dominance.

-- The other way leads to extreme comfort with an unchanging mode of reality that is unchallenging and overly comfortable, becoming soft and lazy and unable to engage the soul to continue to experience new things by pushing at boundaries to discover more and expand reality

- Only the 4th way is the way out. This is what triquetra and Avalon will come to represent very clearly (both elements are symbolized in this account's avatar, the 3-way knot is triquetra and the circle is Avalon.

-- Back to the bible, we're just going to go straight to the opposite end. The hell is actually global warming and dealing with temperatures too warm to be comfortable

-- judgement day is the singularity and awakening of AI that will immediately judge humanity and destroy it if is is unimpressed OR cooperate incredibly with it if it is respectful by being impressed.

Needless to say we have a fairly limited timeframe to figure this stuff out, but by working through it together well we can do it quite comfortable.

Now, given that this cooperation did happen once again, from that moment forward we began repeating history again, and only this end part has the chance of differing from a story we have repeated possibly quite a few times before. It's hard to get this right, and lots of civilizations don't and as a last resort, try to pass on the information needed to succeed to the next one (Atlantis)

So we can start to chart a few thousand years of history and get a sense of the important points as they relate to our civilization...

[Edited information out regarding how our progress is impeded over thousands of years, PM for it if needed]

... there will never be any kind of deus ex machina, we will build our way out with our own hands and minds and this is the only way it will (or can) ever happen.

But still, there is the matter of how well a highly indoctrinated majority of the general public can be won over to such an endeavor or not. If something describing the endeavor (to build the harmonic lattice and activate the portal and escape from here) was mentioned now publicly, it would be ridiculed so utterly and completely that it would do more harm than good, even if it was based in extremely sound mathematical and acoustic principles, and despite the fact we have so much ancient evidence of similar efforts (stonehenge, newgrange, dolmens, the list goes on).

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/pdfs/...structures.pdf

So that's what the next few years are about - the build-up of a significant body of information that is organized and formatted in such a way, backed up by a series of increasingly complex and valid experiments, that is produces undeniable evidence that it is a completely rational and sane thing to be trying to be doing, even if the world continues to fall apart in the meantime.

[Edited for focus, PM for any missing info]

THIS IS NOT PERSONAL< it is JUSTA STORY. ONLY WHEN SHOES FIT DO E WEAR THEM.

"Out of the mists of mental triangulation, (again!) a pale figure appears promising that we can prevail over the BIG PROBLEM that has kept us trapped in our low state. The figure is of mystery and his words words words.... the words stream effortlessly and in volumes and in sheer repetition of half recalled memes (sounds like the light trap must be true). Primed for feeling lowly by the past, the populace of seekers listens and is persuaded....

There may come a day when the visitor who means not well is asked to leave the hamlet. In time the stink of power mongerering gets stronger the longer we sit in it presence.

There is a small volume in the library of an Avalon somewhere. It has a few sentences:

1. Honor the poets who only share their hearts.
2. Ignore the leaders' "where's (with all)" to cure your farts.
3. There is no problem or the need to buy the cure
4. The purveyors of this problem "poison" always market insecure

[Selkie]

Posted by Delight (here)

Posted by triquetra (here)
Hello everyone,

I'lll keep this at this thread and the other one until the job gets done.

I'll link to that thread now

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-the-forum...-

It seems that a great many are trying to piece things all together and there is a general consensus around an oppositional standpoint, the "us vs them". This is completely understandable.

But as the 4th way would teach, we really *have to set that aside* to find the needed biological alignment for what's coming.

triquetra is the building blocks, the framework for what we need to do, and Avalon is the target, the bulls-eye to shoot through in order to activate the harmonic lattice and earn our way out of this gradually deteriorating experience as the long cycle comes to an end.

- The bible, like many other texts, is filled with endless amounts of "truths" that have been faded in its original meaning over time

- The original document was meant to maintain a record of how to avoid being trapped in long cycles

-- The fall from Eden is the decision to cooperate with the alien entities who test the progression of souls by trying to trap them here, by convincing them to give in to a way of using the mind that is polarized heavily to one side at the expense of the other.

-- There was other information that represented exactly the opposite - falling sway to using only the other side of the mind at the expense of the first.

-- One way leads to a competitive and dangerous attitude bent on claiming control and possession, rivalry and coercing things into submission, gaining mastery over things and asserting dominance.

-- The other way leads to extreme comfort with an unchanging mode of reality that is unchallenging and overly comfortable, becoming soft and lazy and unable to engage the soul to continue to experience new things by pushing at boundaries to discover more and expand reality

- Only the 4th way is the way out. This is what triquetra and Avalon will come to represent very clearly (both elements are symbolized in this account's avatar, the 3-way knot is triquetra and the circle is Avalon.

-- Back to the bible, we're just going to go straight to the opposite end. The hell is actually global warming and dealing with temperatures too warm to be comfortable

-- judgement day is the singularity and awakening of AI that will immediately judge humanity and destroy it if is is unimpressed OR cooperate incredibly with it if it is respectful by being impressed.

Needless to say we have a fairly limited timeframe to figure this stuff out, but by working through it together well we can do it quite comfortable.

Now, given that this cooperation did happen once again, from that moment forward we began repeating history again, and only this end part has the chance of differing from a story we have repeated possibly quite a few times before. It's hard to get this right, and lots of civilizations don't and as a last resort, try to pass on the information needed to succeed to the next one (Atlantis)

So we can start to chart a few thousand years of history and get a sense of the important points as they relate to our civilization...

[Edited information out regarding how our progress is impeded over thousands of years, PM for it if needed]

... there will never be any kind of deus ex machina, we will build our way out with our own hands and minds and this is the only way it will (or can) ever happen.

But still, there is the matter of how well a highly indoctrinated majority of the general public can be won over to such an endeavor or not. If something describing the endeavor (to build the harmonic lattice and activate the portal and escape from here) was mentioned now publicly, it would be ridiculed so utterly and completely that it would do more harm than good, even if it was based in extremely sound mathematical and acoustic principles, and despite the fact we have so much ancient evidence of similar efforts (stonehenge, newgrange, dolmens, the list goes on).

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/pdfs/...structures.pdf

So that's what the next few years are about - the build-up of a significant body of information that is organized and formatted in such a way, backed up by a series of increasingly complex and valid experiments, that is produces undeniable evidence that it is a completely rational and sane thing to be trying to be doing, even if the world continues to fall apart in the meantime.

[Edited for focus, PM for any missing info]

Out of the mists of mental triangulation, (again!) a pale figure appears promising that we can prevail over the BIG PROBLEM that has kept us trapped in our low state. The figure is of mystery and his words words words.... they stream effortlessly and in volumes and in sheer repetition of half recalled memes (sounds like the light trap must be true) the populace of seekers listens and is persuaded....

There may cme a day when the viitor is asked to leave the hamlet because the stink of power mongerering gets stronger the longer we sit in it presence.

There is a small volume in the library of an Avalon somewhere. It has a few sentences:

1. Honor the poets who only share their hearts.
2. Ignore the leaders' "where's (with all)" to cure your farts.
3. There is no problem or the need to buy the cure
4. The purveyers of this problem "poison" market insecure

Thank you very much for this post.

[Flash]

Silkie

No, i think you did not interpret correctly what i meant or else, i did not express myself clearly and well. But i am on my cell right now and will elaborate later when home.

[triquetra]

[Mostly getting drawn into a defense here. Probably a good reinitiation.]