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    Default 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    Here Ben from Suspicous0bservers discusses his 6 issues with climate change from fradulent studies, corrupted scientists, our sun, to geoengineering.


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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    I always appreciate Ben's diligence.

    These are the issues he's indicated:

    The Climate is Changing Unexpectedly – #1
    It Is Difficult to Trust What You Hear – #2
    The Future is Uncertain – #3
    The Entire Solar System is Shifting – #4
    The Sun May Dictate Our Future – #5
    Someone is Screwing With the Weather – #6
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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    A must-see.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    I've flown over the North Pole 6 times since 2010 and have seen the changes there with my own eyes. I have no affiliations with any of these groups. I also live in a small town in Ontario where everything has changed. The depth of the frost in the ground to the length of the winter here, has all shrank. Frost used to be a big concern here, as, when it comes out of the ground used to determine when our construction season would begin. So many real things, all of which have occurred, and all of which make questioning why people talk about things they have seen and experienced themselves trivial and down right juvenile.

    Tell me, what gains would I receive for simply reporting what my own central nervous system has observed? What gains would any receive from this? You say "they" spend 20 billion a year on "climate stuff" yet in all this time those monies have changed nothing, for, today we burned more fossil fuels than yesterday and tomorrow we will be burning more than today. I'd say, therefore, that that money served to keep everything the same and change nothing, for, that is all that has happened since "they", whoever they are, started spending monies in this arena.

    All I can tell you at this late date is that if you do not think environment to be important, then you shall have none.

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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    Quote Posted by Earthlink (here)
    I've flown over the North Pole 6 times since 2010 and have seen the changes there with my own eyes. I have no affiliations with any of these groups. I also live in a small town in Ontario where everything has changed.
    Ton's of changes. We should have already transitioned to solar.
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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    I do like 0bservers sober overview of the situation. I do not think he's pro-fosil fuel.

    And even if he was, he's would be doing himself a disservice to the binary yes/no climate change/golbal warming (whatever you want to call it) debate, as he has consistently pushed for a true re-assessment of the situation.

    If I had to try and peg the guy, I would say he's a tesla/electric universe/alt-science guy, but what of it?

    Ad Hominem is easy to get into here with labels; however, he may very well have some sound research here.

    I'll say it again...I appreciate his diligence.
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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    Quote Posted by Earthlink (here)
    I've flown over the North Pole 6 times since 2010 and have seen the changes there with my own eyes. I have no affiliations with any of these groups.
    Here is a time-lapse of the Age of the ice at the north pole


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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    A must-see.
    Yes, it is. Ben is VERY good. I'd not contest a thing he says.

    But... methane is not mentioned at any point (rather to my surprise). If he's made any videos referring to the methane problem, please do link them here. THX.
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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

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    A must-see.
    Yes, it is. He's VERY good. I'd not contest a thing he says.

    But... methane is not mentioned at any point)rather to my surprise). If Ben's made any videos referring to the methane problem, please do link them here. THX.
    I just wrote a long reply and then lost it! I basically said Ben ultimately believes we may be heading into an ice age rather than full global warming and ended with saying, he does not mention anything about methane, which Bill wrote on in the latest newsletter. I will try to get to him on twitter or something to see what he has to say on the issue.

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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    But... methane is not mentioned at any point (rather to my surprise). If he's made any videos referring to the methane problem, please do link them here. THX.
    Hi, Bill. Here is the link to his previous videos where he has mentioned the methane problem.
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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)

    For the record:


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    Default Re: 6 Issues with Climate Change (by Ben from Suspicous0bservers)



    Quick mention at the beginning of the video.

    Quote It's worse than CO2. Tremendously undervalued in the climate forcing equation, and apparently about 2x as abundant than we've realized.
    Looking at the show notes...takes us all the way back to ISON.

    Whew....good times.
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