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    Default Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Ex former minister of Canada exposing cabal and calling for disclousure, urging americans to wake up...


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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    It would go against everything that is conceivably moral and correct, to think that the message contained in this video should be underestimated; it should not, and we must each do our part to ensure it is not.

    Let's not just prepare to hold our breaths for the months ahead and wait to see what happens ... let each of us ask ourselves; what can I do ?

    Many of us will be aware this quote, which is commonly attributed to Edmund Burke, but here it is again: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”

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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    I noticed that there is about 20-25 guests looking at this thread, as of this moment. they should also be looking in places like this below, if they really want to know exactly what the hell is going on.

    Hellyer's videos are so 'tip of the iceberg', in nature that they don't even remotely give people an actual idea of what is really going on.

    The sort of casual look and casual depth that people tend go to, it really bugs my ass, as this is a very incomplete view. In reality, it gives them something like a bad music video, with zero depth. If people don't go to the depths required, in their understanding of the subject, they are going to be walked past and around and locked out and captured by the situation, as they did not go to the levels that are required to figure things out, and have a real direction in their minds.

    It is important to understand what Paul is saying, but it really has no depth whatsoever, when it comes to knowing just what the hell is really going on.

    So try looking here, things like this link, is the deal.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...971#post944971

    Look at the bones and structure of the thing... otherwise the casual look, is almost meaningless. As meaningless as having looked at an advert on a television. Great for noting the existence of a given thing, but not much more.

    I think it is very important for the casual viewer to stumble into a viewing of Hellyer's video above. Critical, in fact. But..what kind of thing constitutes a potential 'next step'? The thread link is a good one, an excellent place to move forward.
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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Whattaknow, another validation that the world is "run" by ego maniacs and that we're not alone.
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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    Default Re: Full Disclosure Hon Paul T Hellyer

    And yo, just so you know, one of the tendencies for the cabal is to be owners of sports teams. Almost as if it is a component of an act of fealty.

    Beware major sports team owners.

    They control the levers, they enact the levers of controlling people, distracting people, turning their brains to mush. not just the networks, the news, the munitions, the pharmacological corporations, the black ops firms, the private slave labour prison systems/controls and the politicians who enabled that end of things, academia and research,..etc.

    They've had over 70 years, in this part of the cycle, to establish their system of encapsulation and control.

    this is why any connection to sports is for fools and the lost, the dead of mind.

    Don't go there, walk away, walk away now. Abandon all major league sports, in all ways. It is a perfected method of a physiological and energy/drive trap. it is designed from the ground up to box the ignorant --- into a hole in the ground.
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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Hellyer speaks of "incredible naivety", but unless he has come out against the official version of what happened on 911, he's going to continue being ineffectual, imho, and last I heard, he was still in line with the 911 lies.
    update: Apologies for not watching the vid in the OP before commenting, because evidently Hellyer has looked deeper into 911 now and has arrived at something much closer to the truth.
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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Hellyer speaks of "incredible naivety", but unless he has come out against the official version of what happened on 911, he's going to continue being ineffectual, imho, and last I heard, he was still in line with the 911 lies.
    Did you listen to the video??? He pushes Judy Wood's Book - "Where did the Towers Go". He's 100% on board with 911 truth.

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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Yes, thanks Kryztian, I am listening now and updated my comments in my previous post.
    Good for Hellyer! He has my respect and gratitude.
    That takes guts.
    I hope he won't suffer at the hands of TPTW for speaking truth.
    I wonder what changed his mind?
    I would imagine he got a lot of feedback after speaking at the Disclosure event, and that may have been the turning point for him.
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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Paul Hellier is working for years now towards disclosure, It seems to me he is best qualified for 'first contact - disclosure' scenario for the general public. He is calm, collected, and transmits discernment, but like Stevan Greer, there is no 'realness' of depth of perspective in his (spoken) relation towards the many species out there or any one word about the ones over here. It is all very politically correct and there was never an allusion from him that the problems on planet earth are at least partially (even more than this) Alien made. Considering the type of job he held, that is somehow understandable. Him being a dipiomat. I do believe that first message to the public could have been invested in his hands and in the hands of others with simliar messages. But the real social-political on-goings and decision making behind the scenes needs to use much more discernment, authentic inspection, catious, and friendly but carefull approach, otherwise, there is going to be a real learning curve for humanity and a lesson about first (second and third impressions..) and another battle to be fought for release from enslavement. Easy to say, tough job ~
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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    TRULY ONE OF THE BETTER IF NOT THE BEST OVERVIEW OF THE SITUATION BY A HIGH RANKING AND CREDIBLE OFFICIAL!

    a must to send out to others!

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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Once again, the debate is couched in the context of nation/states and representative governments, when in reality NO sovereign nations exist and no representative governments exist.

    I don't think he realizes what a formidable foe we 7 billion people are facing, and how entrenched the existing paradigm is in the very structures of our societies, right down to the programmed memes of religion and politics, to the very core of our DNA and the energy of the astral.

    These nefarious interlopers have been preparing for this moment for at least 10,000 years and have put together their societies at least since Rome. All it would take is 5 million people to read his book and implement his suggested solutions? All we need to do is get rid of the banksters and do it through the democratic process?

    We need to stand a bit further from the canvas and realize that the existing paradigm is irrevocably broken, and nothing short of a complete overhaul will do. I suggest you batten down the hatches if you wish to make such a paradigm shift, and examine all of your own sacred cows entrenched in the old paradigm and go to the mirror and really see which ones you are ready to give up and die for. The New World Order is already here and we keep believing it is coming someday.

    I don't think the baby boomers are willing to give up the spoils they gained from building the military industrial complex or the secret space program. They have too much vested in the lie. I do think the millennials could do it with cloud funding and cloud resourcing, at least put a big dent in the existing paradigm and challenge the global corporatocracy. I think most of them don't buy the existing paradigm, or are willing to pay the debt they have been saddled with, yet they don't yet have the power to organize and make a shift until more of the baby boomers die off and hand the baton to them.

    In the mean time, they need to preserve their integrity of the body temple, which is being summarily destroyed to toxicity. Without the pineal gland, the master gland governing the rest of the body systems, and maintaining some level of health and vitality, Paul Hellyer just gets royalties on 5 million books and rides off into the sunset with the rest of the baby boomers while the rest of us are poisoned.
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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

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    Paul Hellyer just gets royalties on 5 million books and rides off into the sunset with the rest of the baby boomers while the rest of us are poisoned.

    you make many a good point, however i don't agree with the cynicism regarding his book , unless of course you add every other author of every other book trying to bring fact and truth to others. all history and educational books included.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
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    Paul Hellyer just gets royalties on 5 million books and rides off into the sunset with the rest of the baby boomers while the rest of us are poisoned.

    you make many a good point, however i don't agree with the cynicism regarding his book , unless of course you add every other author of every other book trying to bring fact and truth to others. all history and educational books included.
    If you read that statement in the context of the entire post, I'm not saying Paul Hellyer's book is not useful in waking some people up, but I would expect those here at Avalon, at least the seasoned members who are familiar with my perspective, writing style, and the overall context, would see the intended meaning of this statement.

    I admit that my presentations are becoming a bit harsh as I am losing patience and for this I apologize to those who may be offended.

    In any event, as long as we use the context of nation/states and the context of the existing paradigm of governments, the book misses the mark, in my opinion.
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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    I agree with both of you. partly.
    It would have been more acceptable from Mr. Hellier, if he'd mentioned that specific part we referd too in this video and just mentioned his book for further information.
    As he did, it looks really that he's all about selling his book.
    At his age, and beeing a politician he surely knows how to talk and sell things but he under estimates the intelligence of the people he addresses this video to.
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    Paul Hellyer just gets royalties on 5 million books and rides off into the sunset with the rest of the baby boomers while the rest of us are poisoned.

    you make many a good point, however i don't agree with the cynicism regarding his book , unless of course you add every other author of every other book trying to bring fact and truth to others. all history and educational books included.

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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    I like this guy, he does his absolute best to present the truth - his previous status as a Canadian ex-minister provides a certain credibility to the message, although the huge magnitude of it will continue to beggar belief for many mainstream people (often called 'Sheeple' unkindly) He is obviously a man who loves truth, and he knows a lot; but he only has so much influence, his reach is hampered by his being relatively unknown, of a certain age and the ignorant masses will not heed him - but it all helps. Bravo!

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    Default Re: Full Disclosure: Hon. Paul T Hellyer

    Is the second time today that i read here in Avalon that New World Order is allready here... it was here long ago. We keep thinking NWO is about putting toghether all nations on earth, well fox always there´s been a NWO over the nations acting in its own interest bringing countries into war, etc... OK... NWO is been here for long but now they are crambling and all the sings say so. I know we are tired of not seeing much change; hold your breath, changes are ahead. TPUB (the power that used to be) are desperate trying to come forward with WWIII and now we really need all of you in your best shape/vibration. SO please don´t let low vibrations get into so nice people like you Gripreaper.
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