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    I might try that! I have also heard echoing on the phone lines, usually its at the start of a call and it evens out after a while. Never really thought much of it, because i never talk on the phone much (family traight of males in my family... We all hate telephones) so i keep phone calls breif but i am always in lengthy text message conversations...

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    my wife's phone will make calls on it's own at random.
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    I am sure its all just happenstance

    Andy Murray won Wimbledon in London on 7/7.
    Same date and place as the London bombings, just different year.

    He won the New York Grand slam in New York on 9/11.
    Same date and place as the Twin Towers, different year.

    He was in Dunblane school on 13/3/96 when the massacre actually happened.
    http://the-tap.blogspot.com.au/2013/...rks-major.html

    Andy Murray and his elder brother, Jamie, attended the Dunblane Primary Schhol. They were on their way to the school gymnasium and survived by hiding under a desk in the headmaster's office. http://aangirfan.blogspot.com.au/

    On match fixing - comments from Andy Murray:

    Andy Murray today sensationally claimed that tennis is "fixed" and that everyone on the professional circuit knows matches are being affected by gambling. He said: "It's pretty disappointing for all the players but everyone knows it goes on."
    • Novak Djokovic claimed he was offered a £110,000 bribe to lose a match.
    • Gilles Elseneer revealed that he was offered £70,000 to throw a match at Wimbledon
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...#ixzz2YXuK5uiO

    As an aside: He and the press are going on about how it's 77 years since a British win, just to rub in the 7/7 numbers a bit more. I guess Virginia Wade (UK) - Womens singles champion 1977 doesnt count?

    I understand he is a Scot (living in Florida) Anything to do with the Scottish independance ----- no surely not.

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    As George Noory always says .....

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    saw this on another place. this is pretty amazing and the way the guys describes it is real clear. i hope some do find this interesting.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/c..._solar_system/

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    Haha, good stuff. Love things like this.
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    Very interesting...and I don't believe in coincidences. At least, not that much coincidence. That the universe should be harmonic shouldn't come as a surprise.
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    If these things are true, then this is some really creepy stuff.

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    On November 4, 2008 Barack Obama won the Presidential Election. On November 5, one of the winning combinations at the Illinois Lottery was 6-6-6.

    #12

    South African astronomer Daniel du Toit had just finished giving a lecture with the conclusion that death could strike at anytime. Afterwards, he sat down and popped a peppermint in his mouth. Unfortunately, he choked to death on that piece of candy.

    #11

    During the production of Deus Ex (a video game released in 2000), the development team forgot to add the Twin Towers. An in-game explanation was given: the buildings had been brought down by a terrorist attack.

    #10

    The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand sparked World War I. He was shot down in a car that had the license plate A III 118. The war ended in an armistice on11-11-18, at 11 a.m.


    #9

    In 2002, a seventy year old Finnish man was killed by a truck when he attempted to cross a highway on his bike. Two hours later, his identical twin was killed under the exact same circumstances, less than one mile down the same highway.

    #8

    In 1883, Henry Ziegland dumped his longtime girlfriend. Heartbroken, she hanged herself. Her brother vowed to avenge her and hunted down Ziegland. When he finally found him, he aimed for his head and shot. Ziegland fell to the ground. The girl’s brother, believing he had exerted his vengeance, committed suicide with the same gun. Little did he know that Ziegland would survive, for the bullet had merely grazed his cheek and lodged itself in a nearby tree.

    Several years later, Ziegland attempted to cut down that particular tree. He had the brilliant idea of using dynamite and the resulting explosion sent the dormant bullet right through his skull. It seems the bullet refused to miss its target.

    #7

    In 1838, Edgar Allan Poe published The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket. The novel includes the tale of four men stranded at sea after their ship sank. Desperate, the men kill and eat a cabin boy named Richard Parker.

    Forty-six years later, a ship called Mignonette suffered the same fate. The four starving survivors killed and ate the cabin boy whose real name was -you guessed it- Richard Parker.

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    Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain was born in 1835, shortly after the appearance of Halley’s Comet. Later in life, he predicted he would die when the comet returned. In 1910, one day after Halley’s Comet appeared at its brightest, Mark Twain died of a heart attack. Perhaps Twain considered the comet a harbinger of death. If so, he had good reason. In 1222, as the comet passed near Earth, it appeared to be moving west. At the time, Genghis Khan was preparing for his invasion. Believing this was a sign, he also marched west, killing millions in the process.

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    September 20th, 1911. The RMS Olympic, White Star Line’s lead transatlantic ocean liner collides with a British warship called HMS Hawke. The Olympic suffers severe damage to its hull and nearly capsizes. Fortunately, no-one is seriously injured or killed.

    Seven months later, the sinking of the Titanic would become one of the deadliest maritime disasters, claiming the lives of more than 1,500 people.

    In the morning hours of November 21st, 1916, the White Star Line’s largest and latest Olympic class vessel, the HSMS Britannic was shook by an explosion. Fifty-five minutes later, it sank in the Mediterranean Sea. Thirty people lose their lives. It is unclear whether the explosion was caused by a torpedo or underwater mine.

    What do all of these disasters on water have in common? Well, besides involving three out state of the art passenger ships belonging to the same shipping company? One stewardess/nurse was present on all of them when things went bad. She survived them all, leading some to believe she was an albatross.

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    A Frenchman called Jean Marie Dubarry was executed for murdering his father on February 13, 1746. One hundred years later, on the 13th of February, another man was executed for patricide. His name? Jean Marie Dubarry.

    #3

    A French Baron named Rodemire de Tarazone was killed by Claude Volbonne in 1872. Two decades earlier, Baron de Tarazone’s father had been killed by a different man, also named Claude Volbonne.

    #2

    King Umberto I of Italy was having dinner in a restaurant in the city of Monza, on July 28th, 1900. To his astonishment, he found out the restaurant’s owner looked exactly like him and was also named Umberto. Furthermore, their wives had the same name and the restaurant had been opened on the same day as King Umberto’s coronation. The next day, both Umbertos were shot dead in unrelated incidents.

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    On November 26, 1911, three men were convicted of murdering Sir Edmund Berry and were promptly hanged at Greenberry Hill in London. The men’s names were Green, Berry and Hill.

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    Criss crossing time lines?

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    These things are indeed very creepy when finding out the mysteries that surround our Matrix.

    The Illuminati card game seems to be more of the same

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nati-card-game

    The distortion of time (time being a program) while Past, present and future existing simultaneously is something that is worth considering. Sorry if this may sound too out there

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    Quote Posted by EWO (here)
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    In 1838, Edgar Allan Poe published The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket. The novel includes the tale of four men stranded at sea after their ship sank. Desperate, the men kill and eat a cabin boy named Richard Parker.

    Forty-six years later, a ship called Mignonette suffered the same fate. The four starving survivors killed and ate the cabin boy whose real name was -you guessed it- Richard Parker.

    #6

    Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain was born in 1835, shortly after the appearance of Halley’s Comet. Later in life, he predicted he would die when the comet returned. In 1910, one day after Halley’s Comet appeared at its brightest, Mark Twain died of a heart attack. Perhaps Twain considered the comet a harbinger of death. If so, he had good reason. In 1222, as the comet passed near Earth, it appeared to be moving west. At the time, Genghis Khan was preparing for his invasion. Believing this was a sign, he also marched west, killing millions in the process.
    All these 13 stories come from a book I have in front of me right now: Beyond Coincidence by Martin Plimmer and Brian King. In it, the Richard Parker story goes into overdrive; ending with this:
    Quote In the summer of 1993, my parents took in three Spanish language students. My father told them about Richard Parker one evening over supper. The television was on in the background. All conversation stopped when a local programme started talking about the remarkable story. Dad went on to break the silence by saying how weird coincidences always occur whenever Richard’s tale is mentioned. He told them about Edgar Allan Poe.
    Two of the girls went white. “Look what I bought today”, said one. She reached into her bag and pulled out a copy of the Poe story. “So have I”, said the other firl. Both had gone shopping that day and independently bought the very same book containing the Richard Parker story.
    But I am only here to say that I was actually busy preparing a post about Mark Twain’s death… I shall post the link just as soon as I’m finished.

    EDIT: Here is that comment, posted 5 minutes after this post.

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Listening just now to Benjamin Fulford, who at 13 mins below talks about self-fulfilling prophecy, quoting the example of the mathematician who predicted that date of his death, and when that date came he was so scared he committed suicide. I don’t know who he is referring to, but we also have the story of the Roman emperor Domitian, warned long in advance by an astrologer, as told by Suetonius in The Twelve Caesars. He was murdered at the appointed time, notably because his servile attendants put the clocks forward to make him relax (whether or not this was with hostile intent is immaterial).
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=qzEVxpR4G5Q

    Quote The day before he was killed he gave orders to have some apples which were offered him kept until the following day, and added: "If only I am spared to eat them"; then turning to his companions, he declared that on the following day the moon would be stained with blood in Aquarius, and that a deed would be done of which men would talk all over the world. At about midnight he was so terrified that he leaped from his bed. The next morning he conducted the trial of a soothsayer sent from Germany, who when consulted about the lightning strokes had foretold a change of rulers, and condemned him to death. While he was vigorously scratching a festered wart on his forehead, and had drawn blood, he said: "May this be all." Then he asked the time, and by pre-arrangement the sixth hour was announced to him, instead of the fifth, which he feared. Filled with joy at this, and believing all danger now past, he was hastening to the bath, when his chamberlain Parthenius changed his purpose by announcing that someone had called about a matter of great moment and would not be put off. Then he dismissed all his attendants and went to his bedroom, where he was slain.

    Concerning the nature of the plot and the manner of his death, this is about all that became known. As the conspirators were deliberating when and how to attack him, whether at the bath or at dinner, Stephanus, Domitilla's66 steward, at the time under accusation for embezzlement, offered his aid and counsel. To avoid suspicion, he wrapped up his left arm in woollen bandages for some days, pretending that he had injured it, and concealed in them a dagger. Then pretending to betray a conspiracy and for that reason being given an audience, he stabbed the emperor in the groin as he was reading a paper which the assassin handed him, and stood in a state of amazement. As the wounded prince attempted to resist, he was slain with seven wounds by Clodianus, a subaltern, Maximus, a freedman of Parthenius, Satur, decurion of the chamberlains, and a gladiator from the imperial school. A boy who was engaged in his usual duty of attending to the Lares in the bedroom, and so was a witness of the murder, gave this additional information. He was bidden by Domitian, immediately after he was dealt the first blow, to hand him the dagger hidden under his pillow and to call the servants; but he found nothing at the head of the bed save the hilt, and besides all the doors were closed. Meanwhile the emperor grappled with Stephanus and bore him to the ground, where they struggled for a long time, Domitian trying now to wrest the dagger from his assailant's hands and now to gouge out his eyes with his lacerated fingers.
    He was slain on the fourteenth day before the Kalends of October in the forty-fifth year of his age and the fifteenth of his reign [=18 September AD 96]. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...Domitian*.html
    Then you also have the strange case of Mark Twain:
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Mark Twain was born during one passage of Comet Halley and died at the age of 76 during its next passage in 1911. Somehow he knew this was going to happen. Maybe this is why he didn’t believe that story he once read in the newspaper: ‘the report of my death was an exaggeration’. This raises two questions: how would he know the time of his death from the time of his birth? And what astrological or other phenomenon was playing out here?
    PS. This post also falls into the realm of coincidence. See https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post946527
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    You probably heard this already, ist a bit older but coincidence at ist best


    Have a nice coincidence

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    By the way, Jonathan Swift in his Book Guliver´s Travel writes about the two moons of Mars some years before they been discovered.

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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    By the way, Jonathan Swift in his Book Guliver´s Travel writes about the two moons of Mars some years before they been discovered.
    This must be because he already knew, not coincidence, but interesting nevertheless.

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    If you're short on time, the first 25 minutes is a great section, relating to this.

    Never give up on your silly, silly dreams.

    You mustn't be afraid to dream a little BIGGER, darling.

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    Nothing too dramatic to report here. My dad who was a builder had bought a workshop in 1971. I am named Stanley after my father. We were working in rebuilding the workshop after completely demolishing it. There was my dad, me and a labourer called Stanley and an apprentice also called Stanley working together one day. The premises was 2 Stanley Road. Can you believe it? There was only four people working there all named Stanley at 2 Stanley Road. A customer of my dad's passed by and hearing us all calling each other Stan commented "seems like you have to be called Stanley to get a job here". True story.

    Stan

    PS- Another mystical phenomenon happened many years later to me in the office there with my old man. Does anyone want to know about that?
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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    PS- Another mystical phenomenon happened many years later to me in the office there with my old man. Does anyone want to know about that?
    Yes please. :-)
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    I have a weird family coincidence as well.

    My Mom is 1 of 3 sisters.
    My Dad is 1 of 3 brothers
    My Moms mom died when she was a kid
    My Dads dad died when he was a kid
    My dad also died when I was a kid.
    On my moms side the oldest sister died of cancer.
    On my dads side the oldest brother (my dad) died of cancer.

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    Yann Martel was well aware of the Richard Parker coincidences. (Life of Pi") "So many victimized Richard Parkers had to mean something. My tiger found his name. He's a victim, too--or is he?"

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    Synchronicity and the Mind of God: Unlocking the Mystery of Carl Jung's "Meaningful Coincidence"

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    by Ray Grasse


    The following is excerpted from Under A Sacred Sky: Essays on the Philosophy and Practice of Astrology, recently published by The Wessex Astrologer.

    Quote “Those who believe that the world of being is governed by luck or chance and that it depends upon material causes are far removed from the divine and from the notion of the One.” –Plotinus, Ennead VI.9


    While preparing for his role in the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz, actor Frank Morgan decided against using the costume offered him by the studio for his role as the traveling salesman Professor Marvel, opting instead to select his own wardrobe for the part. Searching through the racks of second-hand clothes assembled over the years by the MGM wardrobe department, he finally settled on an old frock coat that eventually served as his costume during the movie’s filming. Passing the time one day, Morgan idly turned out the inside of the coat’s pocket only to discover the name “L. Frank Baum” sewn into the jacket’s lining. As later investigation confirmed, the jacket had originally been designed for the creator of the Oz story, L. Frank Baum, and made its way through the years into the collection of clothing on the MGM backlot.


    Most of us have, at some point or another, experienced certain unusual coincidences so startling they compel us to wonder about their possible significance or purpose. Do these strange occurrences hold some deeper meaning for our lives? Or are they simply chance events, explainable through ordinary laws of probability, as most scientists claim?

    Among those who wrestled with these questions was the famed Swiss psychologist Carl Jung. Having experienced many such uncanny events himself, he coined the term synchronicity to describe the phenomenon of “meaningful coincidence.” Whereas some coincidences were indeed without significance, he wrote, every so often there occurred confluences of circumstance so improbable they hinted at a deeper purpose or design in their unfolding. 1

    To explain such phenomena, he theorized the existence of a principle in nature very different from that normally described by conventional physics. Whereas most visible phenomena in the world seem to be related in a cause-and-effect manner, like billiard balls bouncing into one another, synchronistic events appear to be “acausally” related, as though linked by an underlying pattern rather than by direct, linear forces.

    For instance, the presence of Baum’s coat on the film wasn’t caused by the making of the film, nor did the appearance of the coat somehow cause the making of the film; they simply were dual expressions of the same unfolding matrix of meaning. Jung went on to postulate two primary kinds of acausal relationships: between two or more outer events in one’s life (as in the case of Frank Morgan), or between an outer event and an inner psychological state.

    Since it was first published in 1952, Jung’s concept has increasingly filtered into popular culture, having found its way into the plot lines of TV shows, works of pop-fiction like The Celestine Prophecy, and the lyrics of rock groups like The Police. In more scholarly quarters, there have been attempts to shed light on this theory through classifying various types of coincidence, scrutinizing it in terms of statistical studies, or even explaining it through quantum physics.

    The search continues. In a letter to the late Victor Mansfield, Jungian disciple Marie-Louise von Franz wrote towards the end of her life:

    Quote The work which has now to be done is to work out the concept of synchronicity. I don’t know the people who will continue it. They must exist, but I don’t know where they are. 2



    The Symbolist Worldview


    What, then, is that “broader perspective”?

    It’s what I’ll here call the symbolist worldview – a perennial perspective espoused through the centuries by such diverse figures as Plotinus, Pythagoras, Jacob Boehme, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and Cornelius Agrippa, to name just a few. For these and other figures, the world was seen as infused with meaning, as “saying” something. As the Swedish scientist and mystic Emmanuel Swedenborg wrote in Heaven and Hell, “There is a correspondence of all things of heaven with all things of man.” 3 The universe is a reflection of an underlying spiritual reality; all phenomena express the deeper ideas and principles of which they are a “signature,” and can therefore be deciphered for their subtler significance.

    For the symbolist, all events and phenomena are seen as elements of a supremely ordered whole. Like the intricately arranged threads of a great novel or myth, the elements of daily experience are viewed as intimately interrelated, with no event out of place, no situation accidental. Consequently even a seemingly trivial occurrence can serve as an important key toward unlocking a greater pattern of meaning: the passage of a bird through the sky, the appearance of lightning at a critical moment, or the overhearing of a chance remark – such events are deemed significant because they’re perceived as interwoven within a greater tapestry of relationship.

    Pervading the warp and weft of creation is a web of subtle connections sometimes known as correspondences. The American essayist Ralph Waldo Emerson once said:

    Quote Secret analogies tie together the remotest parts of Nature, as the atmosphere of a summer morning is filled with innumerable gossamer threads running in every direction, revealed by the beams of the rising sun. 4
    Using more contemporary terms, these correspondences could well be described as “acausal” connections, since they’re not based on mechanistic forces of cause-and-effect, like our proverbial billiard balls on the pool table, but on principles of analogy, metaphor, and symbolism.

    For example, whereas scientists view the Moon as a material body with certain measurable properties, such as size, mineral composition, and orbital motion, among others, for the esotericist the Moon may also be related to such things as water, women, the home, food, and emotions, since these all linked through an underlying “lunar” archetype, or what might be called the principle of receptivity. Understanding the language of correspondences thus provides the esotericist with a skeleton key toward unlocking the hidden connections which unite the outer and inner worlds of our experience.

    Since the advent of scientific rationality in the 17th and 18th centuries, the concept of correspondences has been dismissed by scientists as nothing more than an outmoded metaphysical fiction, comparable to a child’s belief in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. Yet as soon becomes obvious to anyone studying astrology for any length of time, such correspondences are actually quite real and not merely the stuff of overactive imaginations.

    Consequently, when the Moon is stressfully activated in a person’s horoscope, they may experience a rash of problems in their dealings with women, say; or when Jupiter crosses over their Venus, they might suddenly experience a run of good luck in matters involving romance or money – and so on. Ultimately, the horoscope provides a complex map of the symbolic correspondences that weave their way throughout a person’s life, in ways that are both testable and repeatable.



    The Implications for Jung’s Synchronicity


    So how does the symbolist perspective force us to rethink Jung’s synchronicity theory?

    For one, in his formal writings on the subject Jung claimed that synchronicity was a “relatively rare” phenomenon. 5 But for the symbolist, coincidence is just the tip of a far greater iceberg of meaning, the most visible feature of a pervasive framework of design and relationships that undergirds all experience. In a sense, the entire world is a vast matrix of “acausal connections” extending to every aspect of one’s experience, from one’s body and thoughts to every event and object in the environment. Said another way, everything is a “coincidence,” insofar as everything co-incides!


    Jung regarded the synchronistic event as an important “eruption of meaning” in our lives. But as divinatory systems like astrology demonstrate (and as I explore more fully in The Waking Dream 6), there are actually many eruptions of meaning in our lives besides the occasional and remarkable coincidence, many of them equally important – marriages, births, deaths, graduations, job changes, chance encounters, accidents, nightly dreams, and many others. All these and more are “synchronistic” insofar as they correspond in acausal and meaningful ways to other unfolding patterns in one’s life. 7 To borrow a phrase from William Irwin Thompson, we are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, unaware of the complex archetypal drama spread out before us; what the infrequent and dramatic coincidence does is pull back the curtain for us on one small portion of that vast tableau of meaning.

    For that reason, uncovering the truth of synchronicity won’t be had through scientific methodologies or by carefully studying individual coincidences, but only through a broader philosophical inquiry into the symbolic nature of existence itself. As a result, unlocking Jung’s “meaningful coincidence” may ultimately require a “unified field” theory of meaning that incorporates such diverse disciplines as sacred geometry, astrology, the theory of correspondences, chakric psychology, number theory, and a multi-leveled cosmology, to name just a few. Only within the broad framework offered by just such a Sacred Science can we hope to truly grasp the “whole elephant” of synchronicity, and not simply one of its appendages, as exemplified by the rare and dramatic coincidence.

    And it’s against this broader backdrop that we begin to glimpse some of the broader questions raised by synchronistic phenomena, such as: What could possibly organize the phenomena of our world in so profound and meaningful a way as this? In his book A Sense of the Cosmos, author Jacob Needleman offers a possible clue to that question with this comment about the uncanny symmetry displayed throughout nature’s ecological web:

    Quote Whenever we have looked to a part for the sake of understanding the whole, we have eventually found that the part is a living component of the whole. In a universe without a visible center, biology presents a reality in which the existence of a center is everywhere implied. (emphasis mine) 8

    Needleman’s comments here could be read as a useful analogy for understanding synchronicity, too. In order for the diverse events of our lives to be interwoven as intricately and artfully as synchronicity implies, and as systems like astrology empirically demonstrate, there would seem to be a regulating intelligence underlying our world, a central principle that organizes all of its elements like notes in a grand symphony of meaning. One needn’t think of this as involving a bearded, anthropomorphic deity on a heavenly throne somewhere, of course. As we saw at the opening of this article, the Neoplatonist writer Plotinus referred to this transcendent principle as simply “the One,” while the Buddhists speak of “Big Mind,” and the mystic geometers of old described a circle whose “center was everywhere but whose circumference was nowhere.”

    Whatever labels or terms one chooses, the phenomenon of synchronicity hints at a coordinating agency of unimaginable scope and subtlety whereby all the coincidences and correspondences of the world coalesce as if threads in a grand design, and within which our lives are holoscopically nested. Seen in this way, the synchronistic event can be seen as affording us a passing sideways glance, as if through a glass darkly, into the mind of God.
    When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
    the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic ~
    Dresden James.

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