Surfing with Wind

[Iloveyou]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NR2fSz_YpM4

[Innocent Warrior]

Posted by Wind (here)

We were talking about the space between us all

I've been thinking along these lines a lot lately. I think it was Delores Cannon I was listening to the other day, she mentioned how we're a field and not localised and it really struck me. I've been pondering it and looking to understand it better and I remembered that experiment the German scientists did on weighing the human soul. That particular experiment wasn't what the concept in the movie, 21grams, was based on. That one was an American doctor, it was much earlier, not as comprehensive or accurate.

The German scientists weighed over 200 people and found that every human soul weighed exactly the same amount, 1/3,000th of an ounce. Here's an excerpt from the article, "Weighing The Human Soul".

From a Noetic Science experiment in 1988:

The human soul weighs 1/3,000th of an ounce!

That’s the astonishing claim of East German researchers who recently weighed more than 200 terminally ill patients just before, and immediately after, their deaths.

In each case the weight loss was exactly the same–1/3,000th of an ounce.

“The inescapable conclusion is that we have now confirmed the existence of the human soul and determined its weight,” Dr. Becker Mertens of Dresden said in a letter printed in the German science journal Horizon.

“The challenge before us now is to figure out exactly what the soul is composed of”, he continued. “We are inclined to believe that it is a form of energy. “But our attempts to identify this energy have been unsuccessful to date.”

The expert’s report, co-authored by physicist Elke Fisher, got mixed review from top scientists around the world. Gerard Voisart, the leading French pathologist, was especially critical, saying that the weight difference between the living and the dead could be accounted for by air leaving the lungs. But Drs. Fisher and Mertens said they took that into account in making their calculations. They further stated that the device they used to weigh the soul has a margin of error of less than 1/100,000th of an ounce.

“It occurred to us that the weight loss could be the result of an instantaneous physical deterioration,” said Dr. Fisher. “But after exhaustive study we agreed that was not the case. The only possible explanation is that we were measuring the loss of the human soul or some kind of life force.”

Full article here.

Ok, so we, as souls, are not a thing but a force, right? Also, if our understanding so far is correct, only a small part of our soul is in our human body. Well it seems 1/3,000th of an ounce of it, to be exact, regardless of the mass of the human body we are occupying. Obviously we are all one and all that but how exactly is that manifested? It seems like we're all Source energy before we incarnate into this body and that Source animates or brings to life a human by giving it a spark from itself and that the identity of the self arises out of physical incarnation. But then I think, no, because I experience being an individual self while I'm not in my body. Then I remember how answers to questions like this are most often paradoxical and that it's most likely both, and then my mind begins to melt at that point. Add to that, the whole prime radiant idea and then I'm back to thinking along the lines of us being manifested directly from pure Source energy and that the Source could be simply 1/3,000th of an ounce of energy. Because he/she is infinite and therefore moves at infinite speeds and is everywhere at once...woah!

This is a crude attempt at explaining the ideas I'm looking at but what I'm getting at is that I'm beginning to see how it's possible that we are already everywhere at once all the time and that if we can completely let go of our minds, while still in our physical form, we can experience being, dare I say it, God manifested into a single physical being (which is not the same as being God/Source itself but still powerful). The nature of being a physical self would allow us to experience from the choice of everywhere as a single time-space journey, as a limitless physical being. We wouldn't need to use our imagination, we would be imagination itself, in that way.

Anyone care to share their thoughts on these ideas? I have made no conclusions, just exploring and observing.

Update: I had the thought that this article may not be true and checked the original source and it's not reliable. There's an article written by someone that says they couldn't find the German science journal. That's ok, the ideas still stand, I just thought this was cool material to use. Will leave the article posted as a heads up on the question of it's credibility.

Related link: Treading on Theologians' Ground, Physicist Wants to Weigh the Soul

[Skyhaven]

I've looked into raw physics for a theory, I discovered that the smallest possible size we can measure is the Planck Length, which is 1.6 x10-35 m across, equivalent to around a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a cm across (a decimal point followed by thirty four zeroes and a one), this is the scale at which I think the magic happens. The laws of quantum physics cause minute wormholes to open and close constantly at that level. Maybe our essence comes through those wormholes into our brains.

[joeecho]

Posted by Skyhaven (here)
Maybe our essence comes through those wormholes into our brains.

Well that explains why I have a sieve for a brain. Or.....do I have a holy brain?

[Innocent Warrior]

Posted by Skyhaven (here)
I've looked into raw physics for a theory, I discovered that the smallest possible size we can measure is the Planck Length, which is 1.6 x10-35 m across, equivalent to around a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a cm across (a decimal point followed by thirty four zeroes and a one), this is the scale at which I think the magic happens. The laws of quantum physics cause minute wormholes to open and close constantly at that level. Maybe our essence comes through those wormholes into our brains.

Oh yeah, duh, I got all tangled up in seeing the prime radiant as a soul, 1/3000th of an ounce would be waaay too big...too much thinking lol.

K, hold that thought, Skyhaven, I was flowing my thoughts onto my post and just want to clean my point up a bit.

I'm beginning to see how it's possible that we are already everywhere at once all the time and that if we can completely let go of our minds, while still in our physical form, we can experience being, dare I say it, God manifested into a single physical being (which is not the same as being God/Source itself but still powerful). The nature of being a physical self would allow us to experience from the choice of everywhere as a single time-space journey, as a limitless physical being.

So that quote is the heart of what I'm hoping to get others' perspectives on. My interest in this is from personal experiences of events which demonstrated to me our godlike abilities. Each event arose from a state that was completely absent of physical mind and yet in that state I was perfectly focussed, conscious, present, alert and in my physical body. On two occasions I was standing. So I know we can do it. From what I see, many of us do, we can feel the truth of this and sometimes refer to this as our sense of knowing. Plus, Jesus has already done it.

With that said, I'm looking to move beyond my sense of knowing and discussing it with my friends here on Surfing with Wind, which leads me back to Skyhaven's reply. Interesting, that reminds me of that Chinese experiment where a remote viewer was directed to read characters on a piece of paper in another room. The room with the piece of paper was completely blacked out so there was absolutely no light in it. Light particles entered the blackened room as the remote viewer viewed the characters on the paper and they measured that light. I'll post it here as soon as I find it again.

Yes, it makes sense about the wormholes, in regards to being in more than one location at a time. Yeah, maybe through our pineal gland, I guess that's like a huge portal compared to one of those wormholes.

[Guish]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)


So that quote is the heart of what I'm hoping to get others' perspectives on. My interest in this is from personal experiences of events which demonstrated to me our godlike abilities. Each event arose from a state that was completely absent of physical mind and yet in that state I was perfectly focussed, conscious, present, alert and in my physical body. On two occasions I was standing. So I know we can do it. From what I see, many of us do, we can feel the truth of this and sometimes refer to this as our sense of knowing. Plus, Jesus has already done it.

I'm with you on this one. The aim of meditation if there's any is to find a state of no thoughts, a presence which is not even associated with the body. This is called the no mind state. I'm not completely in that state the whole day but it becomes easier to let thoughts go and remain unaffected once one realises that the thoughts are not what define us. Now, in that state of no mind, there's full concentration because one is fully absorbed in living in the present. Living the present fully without distraction is the zen mind, the god mind, the transcended mind. Now, living fully the present helps one to be more efficient. Hence, one becomes a master at what one is doing. I posted the video below some time ago. It's very relevant to what you're saying my friend.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9gj2pylJ_w0

[Guish]

Posted by Skyhaven (here)
I've looked into raw physics for a theory, I discovered that the smallest possible size we can measure is the Planck Length, which is 1.6 x10-35 m across, equivalent to around a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a cm across (a decimal point followed by thirty four zeroes and a one), this is the scale at which I think the magic happens. The laws of quantum physics cause minute wormholes to open and close constantly at that level. Maybe our essence comes through those wormholes into our brains.

Quantum experiments are done at a photon's level. The entanglement theory which is a scientific explanation for Karma or oneness was done splitting a photon and sending them 7 miles away from each other. Every action done to one photon happened to the other photon almost instantly or over a period of time. Hence, from an atomic point of view, we all consists of photons but arranged in different ways. Therefore, we are all connected to each other.

[Wind]

Interesting thoughts here, dear friends. Talking about the state of no mind, my ability to think clearly among other things has been a little impaired as of late so I'm afraid my contributions will be only brief. Much love.

Opening to our fear is an act of intimacy, a courageous welcoming of the disfigured and outcast into the living room of our being. Opening thus is also an act of surrender. As such, it is not a dissolution - or collapsing - or personal boundaries, as in submission, but rather an expanding of them.

In submission, we deaden ourselves, sinking into the shallows; in surrender, we enliven ourselves, dying into a deeper Life. In surrender we may lose face, but we do not lose touch. Submission flattens the ego; surrender transcends it. Submission is passive, but surrender is dynamic.

- Robert Augustus Masters

For each soul is constantly meeting itself and those activities in its relationships to others in any given experience.

Know, then, that these are chosen with the desire to make the experience a helpful, hopeful one; giving the faults and the virtues in such a way and manner that the entity, through choice within its own consciousness, may apply those things that have had and do have more to do with the Creative or Spiritual Force within its experience.

For the material, at best, is only temporal, or temporary, while that which may be builded from spiritual desire, spiritual purposes, is eternal. ‪

‎Edgar Cayce‬

[RunningDeer]

After studying the works of greats like Nisargadatta Maharaj and Ramana Maharshi, I applied “out of time”.

Summer, 2004

Pete, my brother was building his home. I helped from time to time. This one day he was adding plywood to the roof. He was in a foul mood. It was hot and he was tired. Rather than be around the ranting, I asked for another job. He had me pick up the excess straps of 2'x4’s and plywood around the property.

I had been practicing how to move “out of time”, where I'd watch the body do it’s work in a rhythmic flow. No emotional attachment to the job or the result. I reported back to Pete. He couldn’t believe the job was done but he could see the huge pile of wood. Pete had only laid two sheets of plywood. And as I write this I want to say maybe three sheets because it seems impossible for those two events to match up in a 3D world.

He asked how I could've gotten so much done. My response was that I got out of my own way. The body worked while a part of me watched on. Pete asked no more questions, and I knew to not to offer.

<3

[Iloveyou]

Civilizations rise and fall.
Stars are born and die away.
Beloved Loved Ones come and go.
The passing of the seasons.
And throughout it all, we endure ...

We fall and then we rise.
We dare to Love again. And again.
After awhile, the rising and the falling
become the same unified motion ...
We Love no matter what -
simply because that's who we are.

(Solara)

[Innocent Warrior]

Each time I expand a little more and see a little more there's a conflict that arises in me. I'm faced with a contrast and so see the old world a little clearer, which in turn forces me to see the truth a little clearer. This is a great thing, it's expansion, but then I worry about people who could get stuck in the old world paradigm. That gets me wanting to activate faster, I think to myself, if they could just see how truly powerful they are then there will be less suffering. I don't want anyone to stay in third density, it will be horrible. Also, I can see how the old world will fall as we keep moving into fourth density and that's tough too. At the same time, I know better than to push and I understand how this goes, hence the conflict. I have become aware of this pattern so it won't be an issue again but wanted to explain that and thank you all for your wonderful posts. You reinforced what the universe keeps telling me over and over again. In the process, I've been forced to face a lot fears I didn't know I had and that lead me to seeing how I doubt who I am, ironic.

The old world will force us to let go of all that doesn't truly matter and this in turn will starve the system and it will fall, it's inevitable. The beauty of these times is that we are blooming and becoming more than we ever imagined, truly magical. Now I understand better what Tolle means when he says our egos will dissolve when we get tired of suffering. I'm tired of being forced to see who I am in the reflection. I know who I am and it's time to let go and just be, without doubt, with faith and trust that all is perfect. Knowing and seeing isn't enough, being is key. Being is peace.

Thanks again. <3

[Innocent Warrior]

Here are some details of that experiment I mentioned.

A Chinese remote viewing experiment using “Extra High Functioning” (EHF) psychics was developed in a laboratory. In these experiments, subjects were able to remotely view a complex Chinese letter character in a completely dark, light-shielded room. While the target was being correctly viewed, the study scientists also reported 15,000 photons which also appeared in the room. When the subject was accurately remote viewing the target, photons were sent into a particular area they were viewing and could then be measured. The Chinese concluded that there is a measurable energy that the astral body gives off when remote viewing.

Source.

[Wind]

Oft analyze, in self's own inner self, the why's of those desires and hopes, consider as to whether these are in keeping with the spiritual purposes.

For, while mind is the builder, it is the purpose, the intent with which an individual applies self mentally, that brings those physical results into materiality.

‎Edgar Cayce,‬ reading 257-252

[Wind]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
Here are some details of that experiment I mentioned.

A Chinese remote viewing experiment using “Extra High Functioning” (EHF) psychics was developed in a laboratory. In these experiments, subjects were able to remotely view a complex Chinese letter character in a completely dark, light-shielded room. While the target was being correctly viewed, the study scientists also reported 15,000 photons which also appeared in the room. When the subject was accurately remote viewing the target, photons were sent into a particular area they were viewing and could then be measured. The Chinese concluded that there is a measurable energy that the astral body gives off when remote viewing.

Source.

I remember reading about that experiment, David Wilcock wrote about it in his book The Sourcefield Investigations. Those photons also explain the psychic staring effect.

When ever I look out of my window and observe some people on the street level (perhaps 10 meters away from me), maybe eight times out of ten they look back trying to see who is looking at them. Of course, they never realize that it is me looking at them from above. To me it is fascinating and also a bit silly since I never intend to affect those people with my consciousness (or photons) - I just like to observe the world and the people! However, if something repeates often enough you will start to see the pattern. Rupert Sheldrake has written extensively about this subject. One of his experiments was called The Sense of Being Stared At.

Also in my daily life I constantly have telepathic and synchronistic experiences, which prove to me that there are no coincides. We are all interconnected, even if our logical (skeptical) minds would want to deny that. Quantum physics will help us to undestand this world in a much more comprehensible way than materialistic science ever will.

Remember what Nikola Tesla said; "My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists." "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." "The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YVOVlePBCrs

[Guish]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vRQeIsfQtE4

I highly recommend listening to the video above. It fits well with what we are discussing right now.

[Innocent Warrior]

"The heart is 100 times stronger than the brain, electrically, and 5,000 times stronger, magnetically." ... Wow! That was awesome, Guish. :-D

More scientific facts about our heart here.

[RunningDeer]

Enjoy your day!

[Innocent Warrior]

RunningDeer, put it back up, those articles are brilliant, please? We're not only a heart, our minds are an integral and powerful part of our creative process.

I still have my link, just presented it a little differently.

[Wind]

Thanks for the video, Guish. I always love listening to Gregg Braden, Bruce Lipton too! Never underestimate the power of the heart. Here are some quotes related to this discussion from one of my favorite authors.

"There are three stages on the path of world enquiry. The first yields as its fruit that the world is but an idea, and this stage has been reached from the metaphysical end by thinkers such as Bishop Berkeley, and nearly reached from the scientific end by such a man as Eddington. The second stage involves the study of the three states, waking, dreaming, and deep sleep, and yields as its fruit the truth that ideas are transitory emanations out of their permanent cause, consciousness. The third stage is the most difficult, for it requires analysis of the nature of time, space, and causation, plus successful practice of yoga. It yields as its fruit the sense of Reality as something eternally abiding with one."

"The unseen energy from which atomic physics derives the universe is beyond investigation by scientific apparatus. But the first effect is not so exempt. The split atom reveals itself in the cyclotron as nuclear particles which have definite form. From them the universe is built and thus matter appears. Energy form--matter--this is the sequence but where is mind in all this? Consciousness and intelligence exist in man. He is only a part of the universe. The whole is greater than the part (that is, mind). Therefore mind exists in the universe (that is, Nature). Careful analysis combined with its opposite, profound meditation, shows using the knowledge derived from atomic physics, this universal mind to be none other than the unseen power--God."

~ Paul Brunton



For more on The Reign of Relativity:
http://paulbrunton.org/notebooks/19

[Wind]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
RunningDeer, put it back up, those articles are brilliant, please? We're not only a heart, our minds are an integral and powerful part of our creative process.

I concur! I didn't get to see what the articles were about, but I don't see why they would have been irrelevant now. You don't ever need to remove anything, P, you know better than that.