Germanwings flight 4U9525 crash in Southern France

[Aviator]

They found a lot of psychiatric drugs in the co-pilots appartment. He was under psychiatric treatment for years and the airline (Lufthansa) knew about it!

http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/er..._4573954.html#

[meat suit]

it is conceivable that a young co-pilot under medication and other personal pressures did what he appeared to have done.

it may also be in somebodies interest to create such an event in order to get new security measures online...

such as chipping pilots or even remote sedating/activating/deactivating them with implants etc. should they not perform as desired... then do the same thing to train/bus drivers... and the rest of us

[Sean]

Don't believe the cover stories..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03...-on-the-plane/

[gripreaper]

Posted by meat suit (here)
it is conceivable that a young co-pilot under medication and other personal pressures did what he appeared to have done.

it may also be in somebodies interest to create such an event in order to get new security measures online...

such as chipping pilots or even remote sedating/activating/deactivating them with implants etc. should they not perform as desired... then do the same thing to train/bus drivers... and the rest of us

I've got an idea. Let's make psychiatric evaluations mandatory, where everyone has to answer a series of questions, have their DNA scrutinized, their blood type, what websites they frequent, who their social affiliations are, where they go and spend their time, etc. All transactions, social interactions, all media, all communications, and all movements should be monitored through mandatory surveillance.

Then, we could all be categorized and labeled as to what degree of a threat we are to society, and depending on what category one ends up based on the evaluation, mandatory psychotropic drugs could be administered to us, a chip could be imbedded under our skin to control any aberrant behavior, and could be used to modify such behavior, and those miscreants who do not follow the social mandates of the collective would be isolated and reconditioned under deep scrutiny to alter their behavior into a more socially acceptable pattern which benefits all of society.

All of this information could be gathered through a digital surveillance grid, stored at a central location, and then collated into groups. The most aberrant could just be taken out and immediately shot, and the rest of us could then be modified and reconditioned to meet the criteria. All of the statutory rules, regulations, codes, laws, and edicts would form the basis for behavior, and how well one adapts to the social norms.

We will never be able to fully feel safe and function as a society until we are able to fully control the aberrant genes in the human genome and make the necessary adjustments to all of the populace which will make us all finally safe from such behavior.

[Flash]

Posted by workingactor (here)
Don't believe the cover stories..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03...-on-the-plane/

Very interesting article worth reading to rhe end

[Hervé]

Posted by workingactor (here)
Don't believe the cover stories..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03...-on-the-plane/

Going along the direction of that VT analysis: Suspicious Technologies And Cyber Wars

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
What is obvious to me is that the debris fragments are extremely small, the largest piece being the size of a small car. Now go look at other airline crash debris photo's and get back to me.

A power on nose dive into a massive rock mountain top might be expected to cause more damage to a plane than most crashes, where the pilot was presumably doing what he could to minimize impact damage, at slower speeds and lower altitudes (where passenger planes cannot fly as fast, due to the dense air), rather than trying to maximize damage, at higher speed and altitude.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the plane exploded before impact, no other way to spread debris like this...

Here's the down and dirty Sorcha update...

"A new report released by the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) today states that President Barack Obama became so enraged upon learning that a NATO forces “war game” on Tuesday downed Germanwings Flight 9525 over southern France, killing all 150 aboard, he shockingly refused to meet this Western alliances top commander, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg despite repeated requests to do so.

The NATO war game shootdown of Germanwings Flight 9525 (US Laser Test Destroys Germanwings Airliner Killing 150 Innocent Civilians) the Ministry of Defense (MoD) had previously reported was due to a failed US Air Force test of its High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System (HELLADS) attempting to shoot down an ICBM reentry vehicle simulating a Federation nuclear attack upon Aviano Air Base in Italy.



The SVR in their report notes that President Obama became aware of the dangers this war game laser test posed to civilians airliners earlier this month after a similar test nearly caused the destruction of Lufthansa Flight LH1172 over France barely two weeks ago, and which exactly like Germanwings Flight 9525 on Tuesday, rapidly plummeted towards the ground before its pilots/controllers were able to regain control.

Most interesting to note in this SVR report, however, are its technical contradictions to what it calls the “massive cover operation” being employed by Western intelligence agencies to keep their citizens from knowing the truth of what happened to Germanwings Flight 9525, and are, instead, blaming everything on its co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz.



The cover operation being implemented against the Germanwings Flight 9525 disaster, this SVR report continues, is being conducted by a specialized intelligence unit of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) called to the scene by the European Union, and who, like in all previous incidents of this kind, and without knowing any facts, forcefully assert that the incident/disaster was not caused by terrorism.

Contradictorily though, SVR experts in this report state, while on the one hand stating their assurance that this airliner was not downed by terrorism, these Western intelligence agencies, headed by the FBI, have now begun to flood their nations media with reports that co-pilot Lubitz was, indeed, a terrorist…who locked his own planes pilot out of the cockpit, then set it on a deliberate course causing its obliteration upon a French mountainside.



With visual evidence of the Germanwings Flight 9525 crash site showing it rained down in thousands of pieces causing a massive debris field covering hundreds of acres across numerous mountain ranges, and with no one single impact point being able to be identified, which can only lead to the logical conclusion that it exploded in the air, this report says, the main goal of the Western intelligence agencies cover operation is to shift their publics attention away from what their eyes are telling them, forcing them to, instead, concentrate their minds on the “scapegoat” terrorist.

This long known cover operation tactic, this report explains, was, perhaps, most successfully used during the 11 September 2001 attack upon the US Pentagon when the American people were “convinced” that a hijacked airliner had struck it, in spite of the first CNN report stating it didn’t happen, and photographic evidence showing the hole left in that massive building was the size of a cruise missile, not an airliner.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7BNqgNvUhRQ

Even more concerning of this cover operation, SVR experts in this report say, even if co-pilot Lubitz had initiated a Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CFIT) of Germanwings Flight 9525, the Lufthansa Aviation Center (LAC) at Frankfurt Airport would have detected it immediately via their Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) and corrected it remotely.

To the high technical proficiency of Lufthansa monitoring their aircraft, this report says, can be read in their own words of how their Aviation Center operates:

“Constant monitoring of all aircraft in the Maintenance Control Center Lufthansa Technik's Maintenance Control Center monitors the technical status of the serviced aircraft worldwide, both on the ground and in the air, and controls necessary procedures. The structural statuses of the aircraft and the due dates for required and planned modifications and tasks are constantly tracked and monitored.

Everything that is part of fleet management is controlled here around the clock and around the world. At the Lufthansa Traffic Control Center in Frankfurt, staff compile all required data on the Lufthansa fleet operating worldwide using what is known as the ACARS system (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System), a data network using HF radio and satellites, and analyze it. Potential faults are immediately detected.”



With the Lufthansa Aviation Center, therefore, able to “immediately detect” and “control necessary procedures”, even of their flights in the air, like Germanwings Flight 9525, this report notes, it is inconceivable that they would fail to notice one of their airliners plummeting towards the ground in southern France and not remotely take control of it before it crashed.

In fact, so critically important to Lufthansa that it be able to control its airliners remotely in case of a crisis/emergency, this report says, was the deciding factor of their Airbus airliner purchases due to this aircraft having the worlds most sophisticated fly-by-wire (FBW) system that replaces the conventional manual flight controls of an aircraft with an electronic interface.

In a fly-by-wire system, this report explains, the movements of flight controls are converted to electronic signals transmitted by wires (hence the fly-by-wire term), and flight control computers determine how to move the actuators at each control surface to provide the ordered response. The fly-by-wire system also allows automatic signals sent by the aircraft's computers to perform functions without the pilot's input, as in systems that automatically help stabilize the aircraft, or prevent unsafe operation of the aircraft outside of its performance envelope.

With Germanwings Flight 9525 clearly operating unsafely “outside of its performance envelope”, and with the Lufthansa Aviation Center monitoring it in real time and able to control this aircraft without the pilots input via its FBW system, this SVR report says, clearly shows that this airliner exploded in the air and was unable to be remotely controlled…and as the visual crash site evidence proves too.

Most unfortunately, however, this report concludes, is that the Western peoples will never know the truth of what happened to Germanwings Flight 9525 as their war mongering governments, that have killed over 2 million during the last decade, know the backlash they could expect should the truth be known.

Sadly though, this massive propaganda cover-up of the total destruction of Germanwings Flight 9525 won’t affect Iranian sports journalist Hussein Javadi, who took the last haunting photograph of this doomed aircraft as it began its last journey. Everyone else, of course, should start preparing themselves for all the sensational news soon to come supporting the cover-up…after all, these monsters have proved it works, and the people have more than proved they’re content with lies." link

[araucaria]

We are now being told for starters that the copilot had a serious psychiatric problem with the attendant medication issues, scared off a girlfriend, and had poor eyesight to boot. Who in his right mind would have allowed such a character to come within a mile of an aircraft cockpit? Answer Lufthansa. Lufthansa has a reputation for being one of the most serious and reliable airlines out there, doubtless bolstered by the stereotype of German efficiency. The more mud being slung at this poor devil of a copilot, the more we are led to the conclusion that this most serious and reliable airline is no better than a cowboy outfit that should never be trusted with flying anybody anywhere – and a fortiori none of the inferior competition should be in business either.

The one slight problem with this picture is that all these cowboys have been carrying billions of passengers billions of miles, mostly very safely and comfortably, if not always on time. And many of these passengers are scared of flying! How do they do it??

One of life’s little mysteries I suppose…

[araucaria]

Is this journalistic ‘sloppiness’ (euphemism) or is all the flightradar24 data completely out? It has to be the former because over mountainous terrain, even if you crash you cannot descend to ‘less than 2,000 feet’. Incidentally flightradar24 gives earlier flights taking this route as cruising at 34,000 or 36,000 feet, this one at 38,000 (11,500 m). From personal experience, cruising speed is never less than 10,000 m (c.33,000 feet). Also we have eight minutes added on. Apparently everyone who thought the plane crashed just before 10:41 is wrong: it happened at 10:48.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10131891.html

I found this item by going to today’s Independent online; it turns out this report dates from March 25th and is not directly accessible from that page. Something strange definitely happened at this point because I have no idea how I am supposed to have opened the page and besides, my browsing history has no record of my doing so at all. And yet it caught my eye and I have copied and pasted it below. The question remains: how could such figures be bandied about even four days ago?

Germanwings plane crash: Airbus A320 glide to destruction 'took 18 minutes not 8'

French officials say events 'between 10.30am and 10.31am' will prove 'crucial' to discovering what went wrong
John Lichfield Author Biography

Paris

Wednesday 25 March 2015

Evidence emerged today that the unexplained, gradual dive to destruction of Germanwings Flight 9525 took at least 18 minutes, not eight.

The French environment and transport minister, Ségolène Royal, said that the crew of the Airbus A320 had stopped responding on radio at 10.30am yesterday when the aircraft was over the Mediterranean.

The aircraft slammed into the sheer side of a mountain in the French Alps soon after 10.48am. [This is usually given as 10:40] For those 18 minutes, it gradually shed height from 28,000 feet to less than 2,000 feet without transmitting any form of distress signal.

Ms Royal said that events in the cockpit of the plane “between 10.30am and 10.31am” were “crucial” and may hold the “key” to the mystery of the air disaster which killed 150 people.

Solving that mystery will depend on the two flight recorders aboard the aircraft. One of those boxes – the cockpit voice recorder – arrived in the laboratories of the French air investigation bureau, the BEA, at Le Bourget near Paris this morning.

The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said that so-called “black box” had been damaged in the crash but was “usable”. Other officials said that the extent of the damage would decide whether the mystery of the crash could be solved “within hours or in days”.

If the voices of the pilots are still distinguishable, sources said, it may be easy for the investigators to discover what went wrong. If they are not distinguishable, they will have to work from the garbled sounds that remain.
Read more: Rescuers discover 'picture of horror' at crash site
Why did the plane's crew not issue a distress signal?
British nationals 'likely' to be among those killed

The accident investigation bureau is expected to announce its first findings today at a press conference at 4pm Paris time (3pm GMT).

Ms Royal said that all possible explanations for the crash remained open but that, at this stage, the assumption was that the disaster was an accident rather than an act of terrorism.

Radar logs of the Barcelona to Dusselfdorf flight show that at 10.29am yesterday, it was at its cruising height of 28.524 feet [11,500 metres is 3730 feet] over the Mediterranean. At 10.30am it had dropped to 26,453 feet. One minute later, it was at 24,380 feet.

For the next 17 minutes, it shed around 1,000 feet of height a minute – a gradual glide downwards rather than a dive. The plane vanished from radar contact soon after 10.48am and is believed to have crashed a few minutes later.

Ms Royal confirmed this morning that, soon after 10.30am, when the pilots had stopped responding by radio, the French military scrambled a Mirage jet fighter to investigate. This aircraft was seen by eye-witnesses following the doomed airliner as it skimmed the Alpine ridges before crashing into a sheer mountain-side. The pilot of the Mirage could, therefore, also possess crucial information on the Germanwings aircraft's behaviour.

Talking of mirages, read that last sentence again: “The pilot of the Mirage could, therefore, also possess crucial information on the Germanwings aircraft's behaviour”. I’m sure he does, but he’s obviously not talking to the press. He must be feeling very lonely.

[Slorri]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Let's see what the next step is gonna be... psychiatric assessments starting at kindergarten?

It's much about blaming the mentally unstable. A prelude to implementing Artificial Intelligence as governors of the people.

[Carmody]

Now it appears, initial (initial appearance of) rumour wise.... as if the flight data recorder, the memory stick itself, is possibly missing.

And the other thing is that now the rumour mill begins about him being a Muslim convert during his 'missing times'.

Thirdly, that another Airbus a320 has had an issue, having slid off a runway in Halifax. Apparently severe weather conditions.

We may be seeing a reluctant and unwilling euro faction being pulled into a 'WWIII started in the euro continent' scenario attempting to be enacted. (while the mid-east blows itself up - with some help, of course)

ie the vaunted 'third Albert pike pump' (the origins of that story have always been under suspicion) may be attempting to assert itself and take place. That some of the players may be unwilling to cross that threshold.

It's almost downright biblical, ie, 'he shall come from the east'.

All that from a crashed airbus? Not quite. But the wind does blow; we can feel it ....and consider it's potential origins.

[Carmody]

Posted by Aviator (here)
They found a lot of psychiatric drugs in the co-pilots appartment. He was under psychiatric treatment for years and the airline (Lufthansa) knew about it!

http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/er..._4573954.html#

It is always interesting to note that it was known that Goering and Hitler were both completely drugged out on whole messes of concoctions. That Hitler's drugged out condition (messed up on many different drugs) began well before the war.

It is important to remember that in many world situations which affect large parts of the globe, a control grid can be run by just a few people. It just takes time to build up given scenarios. Run a few (scenarios) up the flagpole at the same time, see which take hold... and go with that/those one(s). Simple enough.

If a being connected to such control grid, or the organization (very important) they are involved with (possibly both) lives a life that is longer than the standard human one, it's no different than being a farmer or a dog breeder. One (persons and/or organization plans) outlives the livestock in notable fashion, so twisting them around, genetically or behaviorally - is no great issue.

[Roisin]

I had two precognitive lucid dreams of this airliner crash. The first one occurred on the night of March 9th and the second one occurred on March 13th. After I had the first dream, I then asked for more clarification on it and that’s what seems to have happened on March 13th when I had another dream that I felt was related connected in some way to the first one. Right after I have a dream that I think is precognitive, I type it out and save it in my “dream folder”. Below is a screenshot of both of those dreams that I typed out right after I had them and then save those files in that folder. It states the time and date I saved those files which are highlighted in yellow:

Below is what the first dream was about… I’ll go into what was in the second dream in my next post here.

Anyway, just after midnight on March 9th, I woke after having a lucid dream that stated the number “27” two or three times in it. The dream itself had all indications that it could be pre-cognitive due to how hyper-real it was. So days later, on Sunday, March 15th, I created a new avatar for this forum in photoshop with only the number 27 in it and then I came here and uploaded it as my new avatar (notice my avatar to the left of this box). Here’s the property box of that image created on March 15th.



This is what the dream was about. A distraught female friend of mine (who in February of this year attempted suicide) shows up in this dream telling me that so and so died on the 27th. Then I say, “So… so and so died on the 27th and you didn’t tell me?!” I get very angry about this and accuse her of keeping secrets from me. Then we get into a shoving match where I then try to punch, grab and bite her hand but I had no success because it was if she was made of rubber.

Then in the next scene, I’m at my apartment and answer the door to let my cousin and some other unidentifiable person in. I then inform him that so and so died on the 27th. He didn’t know that and was very surprised about that. Then his mother, my aunt comes through the door and makes a quick beeline to the bathroom. I then jump ahead of her to tidy up the bathroom before she uses it…. then we each end up cleaning the toilet where I notice that there are letters like what one finds in alphabet soup on the rim of the toilet.

Then we’re back in the livingroom where my aunt suggests that we all go out to eat. I then say that there are restaurants on Ridge Rd. Then my aunt mentions a restaurant that starts it the letter “B”. Then I ask, like Rockney’s? Then my cousin says, “Oh yes, Rockney’s”. (Rockney’s is a franchise restaurant that’s like Friday’s)

So now we’re all seated at the table at a restaurant and our waiter turns out to be a young blondish man who seemed new at the job. IOW’s, he seemed very inexperienced. Amongst other things, after we each order a taco salad, he brings out a big tray with plates of empty Mexican pastry/tortilla shells on them. So we get the shells for our taco salad’s but not the salad itself. lol

At end of the dream, only me and my aunt are sitting the table… the others who were there are no longer at their seats so in the dream I’m wondering out-loud if they are using the restroom/bathroom or if they went out to their cars.
Here’s a screenshot of the above dream that I typed out in notepad after I woke up from it… (blacked out names…..)



Here's the property box for that file:


So as it turns out, there was big air crash in the Alps in France on March 24th. Below are the similarities in my dream above and that incident:

 The co-pilot who is presently being blamed for the crash was 27 yrs of age.

 In my dream. the number 27 was mentioned 3 times and for this reason, thinking that that number would end up being significant in the upcoming days, I made that number my avatar for this forum on March 15th.

--- also, in my dream, I state that the waiter was a young inexperienced/new waiter.... the co-pilot being blamed for the crash was once a Flight Attendant too for the same airline. He also was new at the pilot job too.

 Authorities are saying that this was a pilot suicide incident. At the beginning of my dream, a female friend of mine, who made a suicide attempt last month pops in where she and I get into a punching match. In the airliner incident, the captain was trying to break down the cockpit door with an axe but has no effect in breaking down that door just like when I tried to slug my friend who was like rubber....

 In my dream, the bathroom and the toilet are prominent in it. In that airliner crash, it’s the same thing too… the captain of the plane left the cockpit to use the toilet resulting in him being locked out of the cockpit when he returned.

 In my dream I stated Ridge Rd. When news first came out about that airliner crashing into the Alps, they showed a photo of a deep ridge/valley in the mountains filled with debris from the crash – especially the larger pieces left of the plane.

 In my dream, I say “like Rockney’s” …. IOW’s wrt to the aircrash, the Alps are like the Rocky Mountains.

One more thing, prominent within my dream, was a word said by my aunt that began with the letter "B". The crash occurred near the city/town Barcelonnette in the Alps. Also, that airliner took off from Barcelona, Spain.

[Roisin]

Like I mentioned in my previous post, I asked for some clarification on that first lucid dream I had on March 9th. And on March 13th, I had the following lucid dream which jives with the airliner crash into the Alps.
Here’s a screenshot of that dream that I typed out right after I had it and saved in my dream folder: (note, at the top of that word doc I typed in March 13th, 2005 in error/typo… I meant 2015… not 2005)



I’ve circled a number of key words that I think are relevant to that airliner crash i.e. mountains, crashing all over the place, collision etc….
And here is what that “rocket/bomb” looked like in that dream that I saw on an airport runway.




Below is a graphic of that flight from a news site:




Note: The crucifix could be a metaphor for martyr.

[Harley]

Posted by Harley (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
It could be just as they say it is, just a nut job on a death mission, but perhaps there is more to it....and if there is more to it, someone went through great lengths to make sure this plane, a certain person(s) on it, or a certain object in the cargo bay did not make it to it's planned destination point.

And I'll add one more:

A warning or some very serious saber rattling, used by 'one side' to persuade 'another side' to do or not to do something. And if the 'other side' tells anyone who did it things can get a whole lot worse.

This sort of thing goes on all the time between governments and nations, though seldom to this extent and visibility.

Really hate to point a finger, but the clues abound.

Picked these three articles up from ynet news, listed by order of publication:


1. Kerry cancels plan to return to US to stay at Iran talks

via ynet news
Associated Press
Published: 03.29.15, 09:22

LAUSANNE - US Secretary of State John Kerry has cancelled plans to return to the United States for an event honoring his late Senate colleague Edward Kennedy in order to remain at the ongoing Iran nuclear talks in Switzerland.

The State Department says Kerry had been looking forward to participating in the dedication of the Kennedy Institute in Boston with the family of the late Massachusetts Senator on Sunday and Monday but due to the ongoing negotiations he "regrets will not be able to share this special time with them in person." Kerry served in the Senate with Kennedy for nearly 25 years.

Kerry's decision to stay at the nuclear talks comes amid signs of the discord in the Iran negotiations ahead of a March 31 deadline for a preliminary deal.


2. Netanyahu: Iranian nuclear deal even worse than Israel had feared

via ynet news
Reuters
Published: 03.29.15, 12:02

[Excerpts]

(Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned on Sunday the framework Iranian nuclear agreement being sought by international negotiators, saying it was even worse than his country had feared.
[...]
"This deal, as it appears to be emerging, bears out all of our fears, and even more than that," Netanyahu told his cabinet in Jerusalem as the United States, five other world powers and Iran worked toward a March 31 deadline in Lausanne, Switzerland.
[...]
"The Iran-Lausanne-Yemen axis is very dangerous to humanity, and must be stopped," he said.
[...]
Israel, which is not a party to the talks and whose hardline demands have not been welcomed in Western capitals, was in an "uphill battle".
[...]


And finally, the reason I am posting all this in this thread:


3. Germany says can't rule out 'further crises' in Iran nuclear talks

via ynet news
Reuters
Published: 03.29.15, 19:52

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier on Sunday warned that the stakes in the Iran nuclear negotiations are very high and it was possible there could be further crises ahead of an end-March deadline for a preliminary deal.

Steinmeier was asked by a reporter to describe the atmosphere in the negotiations between Iran, the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China. He said it was good so far but that it would depend on the two sides' ability to narrow differences in the coming hours. "I ... cannot rule out -- and this is almost always the case with such negotiations where the stakes are high and in which we feel responsible not only to ourselves but to all the others who are not at the table -- I can't rule out that there will be further crises in these negotiations," he said.


"Further Crisis"?

The Co-Pilot just may not be the only 'Unstable Party' to this story.

Almost feels kinda like a clock ticking down.

[turiya]

Have to post this as a related article. The source may be dubious but not totally out of the question... as my oracle indicated to me that the co-pilot had not committed suicide/murder...

US Laser Test That Destroyed Germanwings,
Next Plunges Holland Into Darkness
SOURCE: By Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers


NATO conducted their Friday HELLADS test
just 3 days after they downed Germanwings Flight 9525


HELLADS test that blacked out Northern Holland was the third
of its kind performed by NATO over the past nearly 24 months

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oqk0BW6QDgs

A new Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today claims that the failed 24 March US Air Force test of its High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System (HELLADS) that was attempting to shoot down a simulated Federation nuclear warhead, which resulted in the downing of Germanwings Flight 9525 killing all 150 aboard, was attempted again on Friday, 27 March, but this time resulted in the catastrophic shutdown of the electrical grid in Northern Holland, including Amsterdam.

However, this MoD report points out, the recovered audio from Germanwings Flight 9525 clearly shows the opposite of what the Western propaganda media have been reporting in that the “screams of passengers” are heard first, then they go silent and the noise that follows is of “crunching metal”, cockpit alarms, and indecipherable radio chatter before all goes silent…all indications, experts in this report point out, that this airliner suffered a catastrophic failure killing all passengers and crews first, after which the airliner exploding in air…and as the debris field proves it did.

According to this report, Friday’s HELLADS test that blacked out Northern Holland was the third of its kind performed by NATO over the past nearly 24 months, the other two having the consequence of (1.) the near catastrophic crash of Lufthansa Flight LH1172 over France in May, 2013, and (2.) the obliteration of Germanwings Flight 9525 on 24 March, again over France.

In the May, 2013, near disaster of Lufthansa Flight LH1172, this report continues, pre-HELLADS testing by NATO in preparation for the 22 May 2013 launching of an ICBM from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California was determined by the MoD to be the cause of this near catastrophic incident where this airliner suddenly plunged towards the ground.

Likewise, this report says, the 23 March ICBM launching for the following days HELLADS test that destroyed Germanwings Flight 9525 was then followed by Friday’s (27 March) ICBM launching that crippled Northern Holland.

To exactly how these ICBM-HELLADS tests are conducted, this report explains, a LGM-30G Minuteman-III ICBM is fired to an altitude of 1,120 kilometers (700 miles) at a speed of nearly Mach 24 (approximately 15,000 mph) after which it deploys an Advanced Maneuverable Reentry Vehicle (AMaRV) into Polar orbit and the body of the craft falls into the Pacific Ocean.

The AMaRV, which simulates multiple nuclear warheads, MoD experts in this report say, is then fired upon by the high-energy lasers of the HELLADS in an effort to destroy them as they attempt reentry towards their target(s). The “critical failure” of the HELLADS, however, this report says, has been their use upon the B-1 bomber platform, as was done in all of these tests, which aside from having to be continually tested in the days/weeks leading up to these tests, is notorious for its continued aiming failures.

To why NATO conducted their Friday HELLADS test just 3 days after they downed Germanwings Flight 9525, this report says, was in retaliation for the Federations successful test-firing of an RS-26 Rubezh ballistic missile on Thursday.

And as to why the Western people aren’t being told the truth about NATO’s HELLADS being the cause of the Germanwings Flight 9525 shootdown, the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) had previously reported on detailing the massive cover-up operation now being implemented by Western intelligence agencies accusing this airliners co-pilot as being responsible for this disaster.

However, this MoD report points out, the recovered audio from Germanwings Flight 9525 clearly shows the opposite of what the Western propaganda media have been reporting in that the “screams of passengers” are heard first, then they go silent and the noise that follows is of “crunching metal”, cockpit alarms, and indecipherable radio chatter before all goes silent…all indications, experts in this report point out, that this airliner suffered a catastrophic failure killing all passengers and crews first, after which the airliner exploding in air…and as the debris field proves it did.

As has been proven in other such disasters as Germanwings Flight 9525, this report concludes, there is no likelihood of the Western governments ever telling their people the truth about what happened as evidenced by their continued cover-up of the Malaysia Airlines aircraft shot down by a Ukrainian fighter last year…and which Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned again on 19 March that the Western media have ignored officially documented information from eyewitnesses, previously obtained by Russian media and investigators, including those indicating the presence of a Ukrainian military jet in the vicinity of the doomed flight, and still to this date the American CIA is still refusing to release their data proving this is true.

[Cidersomerset]

I have not got into this case at all apart from a few headlines on the news , but this
article was on David Ickes site which I have posted on another thread. It looks
coincidental but who knows , depends who funded in ? and although George
Noory says ' There are no coincidences ' , I 'm sure there are.But if anyone can
have a delve into it , some of the eager eyes on the forum may find out
something.......

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Outrage over the release of Oscar-nominated movie showing member of aircrew
locking himself in cockpit to crash a plane and kill everyone on board

Saturday 28th March 2015 at 09:39 By David Icke



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Outrage over the release of Oscar-nominated movie showing member of aircrew
locking himself in cockpit to crash a plane and kill everyone on board
Film fans raise chilling similarity between Wild Tales and Alps disaster
First scenes of movie show madman crashing jet to murder his enemies
Acclaimed Argentinian film released in UK today and is out in America
Controversial movie was released in Germany and Spain last autumn

By Martin Robinson and Maria Realf For Mailonline

Published: 14:30, 27 March 2015 | Updated: 19:36, 27 March 2015


‘An Oscar-nominated film will still be released in the UK today despite its disturbing
similarities to the Alps air disaster – to the disgust of cinema-goers near to the
home of one of the three British victims.

Argentinian film Wild Tales features a mass killer who locks himself in the cockpit of
a passenger jet and crashes it in to the ground to murder everyone on board.

In terrifying scenes the fictional passengers panic and one tries to smash his way
through a door to get to the controls in chillingly similar circumstances to the ill-
fated Germanwings Airbus A320 flight.’

Read more: Outrage over the release of Oscar-nominated movie showing member
of aircrew locking himself in cockpit to crash a plane and kill everyone on board

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ill-board.html

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...787#post947787

[bluestflame]

Posted by meat suit (here)
it is conceivable that a young co-pilot under medication and other personal pressures did what he appeared to have done.

it may also be in somebodies interest to create such an event in order to get new security measures online...

such as chipping pilots or even remote sedating/activating/deactivating them with implants etc. should they not perform as desired... then do the same thing to train/bus drivers... and the rest of us

coincedentally today australia( with great haste) announced compulsory 2 persons inside cockpit
at all times , i think this was the agenda all along , but not sure where THAT leads

edit to add : noticed how this has been used to demonise the mentally ill , perhaps to facilitate institutionalisation of anyone the govt assesses as "unstable" ie disgruntled ANYONE , can't get them for breaking a law but can lock up ANYONE under guise of mental illness being a threat , ideal for targeting anyone outspoken and exibiting signs of " conspiracy theory" and
trying to warn others

[Truglivartna]

I don't know whether there has already been a reference to the Cosmic Awareness comment on this Germanwings flight, but I am providing it here as it appears to me to be as appropriate a solution to the explanation of cause as Jimstone's very thorough and astute description -- mentioned elsewhere on this thread, and continually updated by James. Both Jimstone and Cosmic Awareness opinions coincide with my own despite the many still-unanswered questions which we may never have answers to. Regardless of the details, the whole affair has led me to do more than a fair share of HO OPONOPONO "cleaning" in order to be able to sleep well at night. Here's the link to Cosmic Awareness:

http://rainbowphoenixcom.ipage.com/A...20150329OM.pdf

and also the link to Dr. Hew Lin's explanation of HO OPONOPONO...a most profound level of awareness and consciousness for those who can recognize it for what it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL972JihAmg