Michael Salla Gives His Take on GoodETxSG's Reports

[Fellow Aspirant]

Hi All

I feel I must interject here with a supplement to my original post, in a hopeful attempt to clarify my intent and position with respect to it.

Firstly, the “Blue Avians”: while I thank those members who have supplied valuable information about ‘The Aviary’, the “Blue Avians” of which Corey Goode speaks are not human. The name may have been incorporated by Goode to describe the entities involved in his story, but that’s about where the similarities end. Goode’s are far more fantastic:

In his recounting, the Blue Avians are higher density in nature, even as high as 8th or 9th . They assume the form of actual birdlike creatures, with bird heads clad in shimmering indigo/violet feathers; they have entered our solar system accompanied by hundreds of planet-sized orbs (devices) that are now “cloaked” and waiting for …? The Blue Avians do not use these things as vehicles because they travel from place to place instantaneously on the basis of thought – they think about where they want to go and immediately occupy that position in time and or space.
Their mission is to put a stop to the negative behaviour of any and all entities concerned with earth. Among other things. Whew! A tall order. At least, that’s my take on the story.

Wilcock identified the “message” of these entities as being the same as those channelled by his (recently deceased) former partner, Carla Rueckert, which were published as ‘The Law of One’. So that’s a possible reason for why he is on board with the Blue Avian saga.

Now, on to the reasons for the post …

I had, as more than one member subsequently noted, avoided bringing up the issue of why GoodET had left the forum. This was intentional, of course. I didn’t want to muddy the waters. I didn't know WHY he had left. I mentioned that GoodET had been a member of the forum as a memory aid to those who were already familiar with the man.

He had been brought to the attention of the forum by Bill himself, of course, who described him in his opening of the original thread as ‘a major new whistleblower’. I am always willing to listen to those that Bill and Christine are interested in, but their interest is never a guarantee of authenticity. Still, he finds some really great sources, and you never know (as I’m sure Bill would agree) which ones will pan out as truly valuable. That’s why Project Avalon exists: to let us all have a look at interesting stuff, and exchange our views about it.

That said, it was my intent that we would focus our attention on the message of Dr. Michael Salla, as he relayed the information he had received from Corey Goode (AKA GoodETxSG, Luke). I wanted to see the reaction to the news that a well known researcher had bought into the story.

Then there was David Wilcock, always a focus of controversy around here. I see now that any hope of keeping Goode’s connection (and disconnection) with the Forum out of the actual discussion was a misguided one. The mere mention of GoodETxSG elicited such strong responses that I should have limited my notice to Salla and Wilcock. I apologize to the membership for creating such a confusing mess. I was offline for some weeks when the SHTF, and I was not up to speed on the events. I’m not sure what went on behind the scenes, but the upshot was that, as reported by Goode, he decided to sever his ties with Avalon.

At the time I was inclined to put Goode’s response down to an overreaction to a personal slight and hoped that he would forget about it and move on. He moved on, yes, but as I caught up with his posts on other sites and forums, I was dismayed to see that, to this day, even months later, he still bears a grudge, taking any opportunity (and even creating some) to disparage Bill’s character. His position vis-à-vis Bill seems to have become quite bitter. That said, I was still willing to pay attention to what he had to say about his experiences in the Secret Space Program, which I still find fascinating. I like to keep as many balls in the air as possible, for as long as possible.

I also love a good story (pun intended) and will hold in abeyance my judgement regarding its truthfulness. Goode’s vitriol towards Bill seems like a very personal one, however, even though I can detect no animosity ever directed at Goode by Bill, so I put it aside as something between them.

It became more engrossing, however, when David Wilcock and then Dr. Michael Salla started paying attention to what Goode was saying. They are presumably in a better position than I to discern the possible kernels of truth (if there are any) in Goode’s testimony. It was at this point that I decided to bring it to the attention of the members of the forum, to see what comments would be forthcoming. I look forward to the ongoing reactions to the involvement of these two researchers.

I have always believed that this group, as a whole, is able to point out problems and shortcomings that I am not able to pick out. The forum process serves to amplify both truth and deceit in stories, relating other information and experiences that help me (and us) to “discern” in the best possible way.

This I will continue to do, whether the testimony under scrutiny is that of Salla, Alfred Lambremont Weber, Simon Parkes, Randy Cramer, David Wilcock or, of course, Corey Goode. In the matter of Goode, I find a couple of things that weigh against his credibility: his self-admitted past as a mind control victim, and his need to attack Bill. As mentioned, his axe grinding must be based on a deep grievance that I really don’t care to discover. I find his inability to ‘move on’, though, colours my sense of his objectivity. It seems that, in words from Hamlet, he “doth protest too much”.

What gold Wilcock and Salla find in his testimony to warrant their publication I do not know, but I am, as always, fascinated while I wait for the other shoe to drop.
And so, my dear Avalonians, back to you once more.

Brian

Original Post:

A couple of days ago, Dr. Michael Salla posted a piece on his site about his take on the insider info revealed by Good ETxSG, whom most of you will recall was once an active member of this forum. Salla's piece does a really good job of giving an overview of GoodETxDG's testimony, which has become rather jaw-dropping in just the last couple of days. If you haven't consulted his writings for awhile, I would strongly recommend that you update yourself ASAP. According to him, there have been some truly astonishing developments that "may" have repercussions for this planet and its inhabitants in the very near future. (IMHO 2017 makes sense - especially as it was the year given by Bob Dean during one of his later interviews.)


Here's Salla's page:

http://exopolitics.org/author/dr-michael-salla/

More on GoodET's progress:

Even after starting is own website,

http://goodetxsg-secretspaceprogram.blogspot.ca/

GoodET has since been in contact with a number of other alternative media types in order to broaden the audience for his message. He has been working closely with David Wilcock, for example, who is about to release a huge "dump" of the info he has collated and organized on GoodET's behalf. On his Divine Cosmos site, Wilcock gives his take on GoodET's info as:

" All of the insider info I had gathered over the preceding 22 years had come together -- brilliantly and unexpectedly.

Knowledge and information I had kept very quiet was suddenly flooding back into my mind as each new topic of discussion arose.

This one guy knew almost as much as all the others had told me combined."

Here's the link:

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...rla-graduation

The top of Wilcock's page concerns the recent passing of Carla Rueckert, who was made famous with the publishing of "The Law of One". Wilcock spends a lot of time on his page describing his relationship with the teachings of 'The Law of One', which, as far as this post is concerned, serves as an introduction to GoodET's latest info, because here's where it gets even better: the info that Rueckert was channeling from "Ra" about the natural order of the universe, seems to have come from one of the groups of beings that GoodET talks about as having arrived in our solar system and on our planet to put an end to the dischord between the White Hats and the Black Hats. GoodET refers to them as 'Blue Avians', entities that were depicted on the walls of Egyptian tombs with bird heads. On his page, (you'll have to scroll quite a ways down), Wilcock finally talks about his relationship with GoodET under the heading ...

THE NEW INSIDER "LUKE"

A new insider, who we have been calling Luke, sent his first contact letter to Benjamin Fulford and me, simultaneously, on October 13, 2014.

"Luke", of course, being yet another of GoodET's pseudonyms.

I am eagerly anticipating Wilcock's publishing of GoodET's material.

GoodET is also a member and frequent poster (answering questions there as he used to do here) on the site titled "The One Truth". link here:

http://jandeane81.com/index.php?

The thread he is most active on is found under the title "Conspiracy Research", and is, more specifically, named ...

"Secret Space Program, ET Federation Delegation & Milab "Experiencer", GoodETxSG "Q&A"

As usual, there's a lot to digest.

Namaste,

Brian

[Omni]

I think this blog has an interesting take on the avians. From an alleged illuminati insider: http://theruiner777.blogspot.com/2015/03/avians.html

There has been a lot of talk around the Internet about "Blue Avians" and this is rather laughable. "Blue Avians" do not exist. They are and have always been used as part of a mind control program specifically for members inside Secret Space Programs, Cloning Programs and Culture Creator programs. (Katy Perry has been in contact with the Blue Avians, as has Lady Gaga, as example)

[Fellow Aspirant]

Yes, Omniverse, this is from the blogger who calls himself "theruiner". Corey has written a response to this person's thoughts on "The One Truth" thread, which is referenced above. He states:

Yes, this is one of my lovely stalkers. I know exactly who it is.They have made such a nuisance of themselves that I have had to add them to the list of trolls/stalkers that I am following on an online service. That number has sadly grown.

I know what some may be thinking, No.. I do not immediately label anyone who disagree's with me as a "Troll" or a "Stalker"... I let their actions speak as loud as their words. When I am attacked across several mediums and through several people it then becomes something more than just a person with a strong but different opinion.

I was warned but I had no idea how many mentally ill people gravitated to these forums and this "field" in general. "There is a fine line between genius and insanity" and some of these people are quite clever. It not only gives me a new respect for what forum staff members have to deal with on a daily basis but also explains why disclosure has been so damaged over the years (Beyond what the 5 "i's" and other groups could do on their own, "The people factor")...

It is comforting to know that these types only represent less than 1% of the total number of people on these Forums and Following this Field Over All Though, And most are very supportive or if the info smell like "Poo" to them they just shake their heads and move on. "Internet Anonymity" has only enhanced certain psychological pathologies in that "less than 1%" though...

I have been given good advice by some people that have been in this field for some time and have the resources to track and locate these people (Usually pretty easily and quickly) to add to the tracking service to make sure they do not get out of hand (All of their "Real Life" personal info).

I have had ONE STALKER who was so bad that I had to report them to their local "LEO's" (Law Enforcement) already. It also turned out that they were doing some posting from their job or work assets and I have info printed out ready to "Fed-Ex" to their HR Department of their employer.

It is a sad part of this industry but one that has to be dealt with if anything is to get done long term. That is all I will say on this matter. I am sure everyone is aware of the amount of online trolling and stalking that goes on to some degree.

This is the busiest I have ever been and it is only going to get more so. Please bare with me with all of the questions here on the thread, in PM's, Emails and through the new "Question" feature of my Website. They are in the hundreds now.

Corey/GoodETxSG

Brian

[Omni]

In the email interaction I had with the blog writer he said he isn't focusing on Corey but wants to expose the psy ops in SSP personnel. I know how Corey uses the word stalker. He said I stalked him too which was a complete fabrication... He doesn't provide much substance against the alleged illuminati whistleblowers case, just calls him a stalker....

[Fellow Aspirant]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
In the email interaction I had with the blog writer he said he isn't focusing on Corey but wants to expose the psy ops in SSP personnel. I know how Corey uses the word stalker. He said I stalked him too which was a complete fabrication... He doesn't provide much substance against the alleged illuminati whistleblowers case, just calls him a stalker....

Fair enough.

As for me, I give Dr. Michael Salla, David Wilcock and Bill and Christine more credence than the blogger I've not heard of before.

B.

[Shadowself]

I don't know about the blogger but this information has been out there for a very LONG time.

It's called the Aviary:

BIRDS OF A FEATHER

Alexander and C. B. Jones are members of the AVIARY, a group of intelligence and Department of Defense officers and scientists with a brief to discredit any serious research in the UFO field. Each member of the Aviary bears a bird’s name. Jones is FALCON; John Alexander is PENGUIN.


One of their agents, a UFO researcher known as William Moore, who was introduced to John Alexander at a party in 1987 by Scott Jones, confessed in front of an audience at a conference held by the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) on July 1, 1989 in Las Vegas, how he was promised inside information by the senior members of the AVIARY in return for his obedience and service to them. He participated in the propagation and dissemination of disinformation fed to him by various members of the AVIARY.

He also confessed how he was instructed to target one particular individual, an electronics expert, Dr Paul Bennewitz, who had accumulated some UFO film footage and electronic signals which were taking place in 1980 over the Manzano Weapons Storage areas at Kirkland Air Force Base, New Mexico.

As a result of Moore’s involvement, coupled with some surreptitious entries and psychological techniques, Bennewitz ended up in a psychiatric hospital.

Just before the publication of my first paper unmasking two members of the AVIARY, I was visited by two of their members (MORNING DOVE and HAWK) who had traveled to the UK with a message from the senior ranks advising me not to go ahead with my expose. I rejected the proposal.

Immediately after the publication of that paper, and with the full knowledge that myself and a handful of colleagues knew the true identities of their members, John B. Alexander confessed that he was indeed a member of the AVIARY, nicknamed PENGUIN. The accuracy of our information was further confirmed to me by yet another member of the AVIARY--Ron Pandolphi, PELICAN.

Pandolphi is a PhD in physics and works at the Rocket and Missile section of the Office of the Deputy Director of Science and Technology, CIA.

In his book, Out There, the New York Times journalist Howard Blum refers to "a UFO Working Group" within the Defense Intelligence Agency. Despite DIA’s repeated denials, the existence of this working group has been confirmed to me by more than one member of the group itself, including an independent source in the Office of Naval Intelligence. The majority of the group’s members are senior members of the AVIARY:



Dr Christopher Green (BLUEJAY) from the CIA

Harold Puthoff (OWL), ex-NSA

Dr Jack Verona (RAVEN), DoD, one of the initiators of the DlA’s Sleeping Beauty project which aimed to achieve battlefield superiority using mind-altering electromagnetic weaponry

John Alexander (PENGUIN)

Ron Pandolphi (PELICAN)

The mysterious "Col. Harold E. Phillips" who appears in Blum’s Out There, is none other than John B. Alexander.

John Alexander’s position as the Program Manager for Contingency Missions of Conventional Defense Technology, Los Alamos National Laboratories, enabled him to exploit the Department of Defense’s Project Reliance "which encourages a search for all possible sources of existing and incipient technologies before developing new technology in-house" to tap into a wide range of exotic topics, sometimes using defense contractors, e.g., McDonnell Douglas Aerospace. I have several reports, some of which were compiled before his departure to the Los Alamos National Laboratories when he was with Army Intelligence, which show Alexander’s keen interest in any and every exotic subject--UFOs, ESP, psychotronics, anti-gravity devices, near-death experiments, psychology warfare and non-lethal weaponry.

John Alexander utilizes the bank of information he has accumulated to try to develop psychotronic, psychological and mind weaponry. He began thinking about non-lethal weapons a decade ago in his paper, "The New Mental Battlefield". He seems to want to become a ’Master’.

If they ever succeed in this ambition, the rest of us ordinary mortals had better watch out.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...l_aviary08.htm

Everything you wanted to know about the Avians

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...pol_aviary.htm

[grannyfranny100]

Such evil people.

[Shadowself]

Adding that this same group (Avairy) are part of a group of friends who worked on the Nine... Andrija Puharich, Russell Targ, Ira Einhorn, Geller, etc.... and they are basically from the same circle of friends


A quote:

I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the emissary. But the original time I was on the Planet Earth was 34,000 of your years ago. I am the balance. And when I say "I" - I mean because I am an emissary for The Nine. It is not I , but it is the group.We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one.

The declaration above is typical of the channeled pronouncements of the Council of Nine - or just 'The Nine'. They contain all the usual New Age ingredients of grandiose statements, shaky grammar and unprovable predictions. But unlike all the other channeling cults, that of The Nine has serious clout. Perhaps the reason for this is that they claim to be the Ennead, or the nine major gods of ancient Egypt (see panel). Or could there be another reason, one that owes more to The X-Files than the Pyramid Texts? Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich). Set up in 1948 to research the paranormal, among the noted psychics studied at the Foundation were the famous Irish medium Eileen Garrett and the Dutch clairvoyant Peter Hurkos (Pieter van de Hirk).Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor).



In December 1952, Puharich brought into his laboratory an Indian mystic named Dr D G Vinod, who began to channel The Nine or 'the Nine Principles'. In the months before Vinod returned to India, a group met regularly to hear The Nine's channeled wisdom. Never known for their modesty, The Nine proclaimed themselves to be God, stating "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God."

Three years later, there appeared to be independent confirmation of their existence. In Mexico, Puharich and Young met Charles and Lillian Laughead, former Christian missionaries who were by then prominent in the burgeoning UFO contactee movement. (For a description of their involvement in the Dorothy Martin circle, see Jerome Clark's 'When Prophecy Failed' in FT117.) Back in the States a few weeks later, Puharich received a letter from the Laugheads containing messages received by their group's channeller. This message also claimed to come from the Nine Principles, even - amazingly - including references to the earlier communications transmitted through Dr Vinod. Could The Nine possibly be for real?
Perhaps the answer is embedded in the career of Puharich himself. After disbanding the Round Table Foundation in 1958, he worked for 10 years as an inventor of medical devices and achieved international recognition as a parapsychologist, most famously studying the Brazilian psychic surgeon, Arigo (José Pedro de Freitas). But all that was to pale into insignificance because, in 1971, Puharich discovered Uri Geller.

At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotized Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel 'Spectra' - an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.

Through Geller, The Nine alerted Puharich to his life's mission, which was to use Geller's talents to alert the world to an imminent mass landing of spaceships that would bring representatives of The Nine


http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...ne_fortean.htm

You all know who is head of the Nine eh? That would be Ra....and rumor has it the Blue Avains are in league with Ra no?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=miuccNqLq4o

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA's notorious MKULTRA mind control project (see panel). He - together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes.

The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment. And what happened to that experiment? Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success? Of course, that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind.



http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...ne_fortean.htm

[Sirius White]

He is no longer an active member? Damn what did I miss!?

[araucaria]

Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)
In the email interaction I had with the blog writer he said he isn't focusing on Corey but wants to expose the psy ops in SSP personnel. I know how Corey uses the word stalker. He said I stalked him too which was a complete fabrication... He doesn't provide much substance against the alleged illuminati whistleblowers case, just calls him a stalker....

Fair enough.

As for me, I give Dr. Michael Sala, David Wilcock and Bill and Christine more credence than the blogger I've not heard of before.

B.

Giving “Bill and Christine more credence” is going to be a difficult task when you remember that their beautiful relationship was badly soured by the GoodET when he was unsubscribed from the forum. You simply cannot overlook that major incident of 2014 on Avalon: GoodET is no longer around here because he was unsubscribed. And as for using Bill and David Wilcock in the same sentence, Bill is on record on several occasions stating that he considers that at least one of Wilcock’s insiders is not reliable. For all I know, this is who he was talking about.

It would be beyond my pay grade to say any more, but I cannot allow tendentious posts like this, with no actual substance, to go unchallenged.

We have two crossover situations here. First you have Bill, whom I feel I can trust, and who as a forum host allows people to speak who are perhaps not as reliable. At the time of the Charles affair, I suggested that Charles was a self-styled whistleblower who came forward spontaneously but who had nothing to say in public until Bill coaxed something out of him. See my post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post243389 In my view, this was more of the same. A presence on an otherwise mostly reliable forum says nothing about the quality of your information, especially when your presence has been terminated.

The second crossover is when very good people are being misled bigtime – and there are quite a few of those. This is done by providing plenty of ‘high octane’ (to borrow Joseph Farrell’s term) disinfo, namely disinfo that is almost exclusively good info, only with a twist in the tail. David Wilcock maybe does not perceive (or maybe he does) the possible alternative reading of his paragraph heading, ‘The Law of One fits perfectly into what the insiders know’. Why? Because the info is nearly all good (i.e. both correct and ethical). He can find scientific corroboration for that. But ‘what the insiders know’ also includes all the highly unethical stuff uncovered by ‘conspiracy theorists’. . . There are two possible explanations for that, just as there are two possible explanations for making correct predictions: either you can see into the future or… you planned it yourself.

For example, the validating notion of corroboration can be misused by referring everyone to the same source. In a criminal case, it is easy to confound a suspect who keeps changing his story, but bringing the same story through multiple witnesses does not prove his innocence: it might also be a conspiracy. Notice, I am not buying one side of this story or the other; there is a level where they become inseparable.

You can read about the Nine in Picknett and Prince’s The Stargate Conspiracy. But the connection between Don Elkins (of the Ra material) with Puharich, Uri Geller and the Nine is pure unadulterated fact since he (Elkins) discusses it extensively in his book Secrets of the UFO. Interestingly, I found my printout of this book almost instantly (it could have taken a week), open in the middle of Chapter 7: ‘A solution to the mystery of Uri Geller’. http://www.llresearch.org/library/se...e_ufo_pdf.aspx

I am picking out one instance of high validation from a dubious origin, possibly not the best example, but I want later on to link another post to this story in another thread. Don Elkins, it may be recalled, was a professional airline pilot.

Edit: I see you need permission to quote from this website. I don’t have permission, so I’m replacing my quote from page 126 and top of page 127 with a brief summary. Don Elkins reports an aircraft artificial horizon malfunction that puts itself right although that is not supposed to happen (like a flat tire repairing itself). Uri Geller provides documentary proof that he had captured the incident, a note written at the time saying ‘Horizon went out!! Plane?’ Some objects start flying around, which is ‘their’ way of confirming Geller’s thought that he fixed the horizon. Elkins ends with this:

I suppose you still find it hard to believe my story. When it happens to you personally, you have no choice but to witness to the truth.

Witness to the truth, yes, but what level of truth? The lowish level perhaps of some mischief maker with superior skills, capable of fixing a horizon that they had previously caused to malfunction. The point being that quite a few aircraft these days are getting the malfunction without the subsequent fix. For flight 4U 9525, for example, “horizon went out” to way below ground level and never got fixed. Many will think, if this is benevolent intervention growing out of benevolent non-intervention, then it has got to stop.

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
I think this blog has an interesting take on the avians. From an alleged illuminati insider: http://theruiner777.blogspot.com/2015/03/avians.html

There has been a lot of talk around the Internet about "Blue Avians" and this is rather laughable. "Blue Avians" do not exist. They are and have always been used as part of a mind control program specifically for members inside Secret Space Programs, Cloning Programs and Culture Creator programs. (Katy Perry has been in contact with the Blue Avians, as has Lady Gaga, as example)

That's interesting to you? Really? In that case, I've got a bridge in a swamp you might want to buy.

[Shadowself]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Witness to the truth, yes, but what level of truth? The lowish level perhaps of some mischief maker with superior skills, capable of fixing a horizon that they had previously caused to malfunction. The point being that quite a few aircraft these days are getting the malfunction without the subsequent fix. For flight 4U 9525, for example, “horizon went out” to way below ground level and never got fixed. Many will think, if this is benevolent intervention growing out of benevolent non-intervention, then it has got to stop.

good assessment.

Adding have you seen Puharich's resume?

http://www.puharich.nl/Bio/Resume.htm

One of his many US patents:

http://www.google.com/patents/US3267931

Makes for a great spy novel.

[Jake]

If one does not agree with and accept blindly everything C says, then one is attacked by him.. I find that to be a barbaric tactic.. Barbaric and reprehensible... Especially from the new messiah of the blue bird saviors... I could yawn here,, but then C would say it was a designed attack on him and he has the secret emails to prove it... lol...

Anyone supposing to represent ME to a higher being, or group of beings can piss off. That is not how it is done!!! Higher beings are working with individuals on an individual basis.. Contact will be personal and unique.. Mine is... I wouldn't pretend to represent any other soul... It is quite humbling and personally spiritual, (for lack of a better word)..

Instead, what we get is attack after attack from C,, just spit and hate,,, from a self proclaimed savior,, working with yet another group of savior beings...

All this has changed for me is now I know that DW will believe anything..

NOBODY IS GOING TO SAVE US!!! We have to save ourselves.. ANYONE claiming to be a savior is playing you for a fool...

All groups, religions, governments, social movements throughout history have been infultrated and controlled by the bastards in power... The new movement of personal sovereignty and awakening is being stampped out by yet another move to get us to forget our sovereignty, and look to a savior.

I have had my own personal contact out of my body... It would be the most despicable act of self betrayal to pretend to represent any other person to this group.. NOBODY represents me,, absolutely not... if that is what you are lookoing for then by all means,,, sit on your hands and wait to be saved...

Or, buy the book... Ha! I am sure one is coming...

(Yawn)
Jake

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jake (here)
NOBODY IS GOING TO SAVE US!!! We have to save ourselves..

Or not .

I do what I can, while I can, except when I don't ... whether or not that qualifies as "salvation" would be measuring my being by a foreign yardstick ... of little relevance.

[Zionbrion]

Posted by Jake (here)
If one does not agree with and accept blindly everything C says, then one is attacked by him.. I find that to be a barbaric tactic.. Barbaric and reprehensible... Especially from the new messiah of the blue bird saviors... I could yawn here,, but then C would say it was a designed attack on him and he has the secret emails to prove it... lol...

Anyone supposing to represent ME to a higher being, or group of beings can piss off. That is not how it is done!!! Higher beings are working with individuals on an individual basis.. Contact will be personal and unique.. Mine is... I wouldn't pretend to represent any other soul... It is quite humbling and personally spiritual, (for lack of a better word)..

Instead, what we get is attack after attack from C,, just spit and hate,,, from a self proclaimed savior,, working with yet another group of savior beings...

All this has changed for me is now I know that DW will believe anything..

NOBODY IS GOING TO SAVE US!!! We have to save ourselves.. ANYONE claiming to be a savior is playing you for a fool...

All groups, religions, governments, social movements throughout history have been infultrated and controlled by the bastards in power... The new movement of personal sovereignty and awakening is being stampped out by yet another move to get us to forget our sovereignty, and look to a savior.

I have had my own personal contact out of my body... It would be the most despicable act of self betrayal to pretend to represent any other person to this group.. NOBODY represents me,, absolutely not... if that is what you are lookoing for then by all means,,, sit on your hands and wait to be saved...

Or, buy the book... Ha! I am sure one is coming...

(Yawn)
Jake

I second that motion.

I read this thread last night, but was waiting until some sleep to respond, and you wrote as I was thinking. My BS meter has been off the charts since the first GoodET thread with the interview has started. All of the subsequent action/information that has come out has only further proven to me that there is a big ego and/or mind control going on here, spreading mostly disinformation. In another thread on the blue avians someone was copying and pasting from Coreys blog and at one point he wrote something like "the Bill Ryan/Project Avalon disinfo cult" but he removed it fairly quickly becaise others did not view this text on his blog.
Sadly this also has discredited David Wilcock for me as well, that he is so gullible to this information.

On another note, if you want more sincere information about the Bird people check out the book the Bird Tribes by Ken Carey. From what I understand...I could be wrong here...is that he and his wife went and lived with no technology in the woods for many years and he started to channell all of this information, he would be in trance and his wife would write things down. He then wrote the book Bird Tribes that reads like fiction, but rings very true in my being.

[Zionbrion]

The name Bird Tribes comes to us from the tradition of the Native Americans. Yet though they have been known throughout the world and throughout the millennia by many names such as Angels, Messengers, Higher Selves, Ascended Masters, ExtraTerrestrials - still their essential nature, like our own, remains a deep and beautiful mystery.

Perhaps one of the easiest ways to get a grasp on the concept of the BirdTribes is to put them in the context of the 'real world'. In the book Return of the BirdTribes
which was the original inspiration for this website, the whole of what we call recorded history is the story of the 'warrior tribes', and we recommend you read our page about the recent history of the warrior tribes for clarification of the Bird Tribes relevance to the modern world and its peoples.

To quote from Return of the Bird Tribe's introduction...
"There are many names for us. We have been called angels, Bird Tribes, higher selves, hoksedas, spirits of the stars. The reality of what we are is more than a name can convey...".

Keeping in mind that there is no simple answer to the question of who the Bird Tribes are - let us say then that a working definition might be that the BirdTribes are the Angelic Consciousness that knows no separation from the Sacred Source of All Existences, and constantly remembers its ultimate kinship with all created beings.
The Bird Tribes are us when we have integrated permanent awareness of the Divine Presence. They are our complete wholeness speaking to us from the dimension where they eternally reside.

More quotes from the introduction to
Return of the Bird Tribes ~

"Although communication with discarnate beings is not widely practiced in the industrial nations, such communication has played a central role in virtually all recorded human development" ... "Human history, recent and ancient, provides countless instances of poets, saints, mystics, even statesmen and scientists who have experienced significant encounters with metaphysical beings of one sort or another."1
"Certain of the angelic tribes... rarely interact with the earth or her inhabitants. Others have been intimately involved with this planet from her inception, being, in fact, the agents and overseers of her organic development. Within this category of angels long associated with biological life is a highly specialised circle of beings who are responsible for the education of human kind."

So the BirdTribes may be thought of as Angels that are particularly concerned with the destiny of humanity, and yet... the book also makes it clear that there have been human beings throughout history, scattered among all cultures, who shared this consciousness. In fact the truly human being, the full expression of our potential - is an integration of the apparently separated individual entity with the Angelic consciousness that experiences no separation from the Omnipresent Reality.

In the Return of the Bird Tribes it is explained that what we think of as normal human consciousness is actually a disconnection from the angelic aspects of our whole beings as we allowed ourselves to be dominated by the egoic warrior tribe mentality. It is an evolutionary phase that is ending, for it has served its purpose in teaching us the inevitable result of believing that we are separate from the world and can benefit by exploiting it for our own gain.

The apparent separation of the human consciousness from the Universal and Omnipresent Consciousness... is not 'real'. However - the intensification of the experience of the illusion of such separation has been the defining characteristic of most of the short span of recorded Human history. As our consciousness evolved and became more intensely self-reflective, we simultaneously became more acutely aware of our apparent separation. This provoked an existential anxiety and obsession with trying to control the apparently separate external reality. This process reached its natural limit as experienced in the unprecedentedly destructive politics and science of the last century.

Having reached its limit the circle is now swinging back in the other direction - but at a new octave.
A new level of awareness is being attained on mass. A new awareness which integrates
the experience of individual existence with the knowledge of the ultimate unity.
This is what we refer to as 'the Return of the Bird Tribes'!

'The Return of the Bird Tribes' was written by Ken Carey and published by Harper Collins in 1991. Like his seminal 'Starseed Transmission' books it is a cosmic vision of planetary transformation. He carefully explains in the introduction that it is written by a process of communion that is a natural evolution from what we have called 'channeling'. It is a merging of his consciousness with that of angelic intelligences.

All of this is from www.birdtribes.net

[Meggings]

Here is another Michael Salla interview with a fellow I've recently come across, by name of R. Scott Lemriel. Scott talks about mind control going back hundreds of thousands of years. It was published April 8th, 2015.

Michael Salla, in his introduction, says roughly this: Through extraterrestrial technology, we have had our minds divided into conscious and subconscious segments – and we are controlled by the implanting of fear and doubt into our subconscious. And I might add, by giving us images of imperfection rather than the intended perfection of life's expressions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mIO...ature=youtu.be

[Zionbrion]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)
I think this blog has an interesting take on the avians. From an alleged illuminati insider: http://theruiner777.blogspot.com/2015/03/avians.html

There has been a lot of talk around the Internet about "Blue Avians" and this is rather laughable. "Blue Avians" do not exist. They are and have always been used as part of a mind control program specifically for members inside Secret Space Programs, Cloning Programs and Culture Creator programs. (Katy Perry has been in contact with the Blue Avians, as has Lady Gaga, as example)

That's interesting to you? Really? In that case, I've got a bridge in a swamp you might want to buy.

I'll take it...I assume the support structure is rot resistant.
The writer of that blog brings up some very good points, you do know the cabal type people play both sides of the field, right?

[Elainie]

Anyone muscle tested this Big Bird story as in David Hawkins style? Curious to know what level it calibrates as.

[donk]

Posted by araucaria (here)
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Giving “Bill and Christine more credence” is going to be a difficult task when you remember that their beautiful relationship was badly soured by the GoodET when he was unsubscribed from the forum. You simply cannot overlook that major incident of 2014 on Avalon: GoodET is no longer around here because he was unsubscribed. .

This “throw away” comment is of the type that I endlessly try to discern and am met with resistance…so forgive me in advance that it seems off-topic…but it is here and I don’t know where else we can discuss.

It seems like the forum is actively overlooking it this important incident…unless I missed it? Where exactly is it explained clearly why he is no longer here, how it caused a rift, and where everyone now stands? And if the relationship was so beautiful…why have I NEVER seen Bill mention it at all the time I’ve been here? What basis are you getting your description of their relationship?

Cuz I would have to either think the relationship was shakey…or corey/luke/goodET is more dangerous and manipulative than many folk seem to believe, right? I mean, you put it in your post like it’s common knowledge that they had a beautiful and it’s known to you how goodET “soured” it…can you point me to where you formed your conclusions on this? Wouldn’t it be a service to the forum for the founder to explain clearly how he feels about this?

Is there someplace that I just missed where Bill (and/or Christine’s) perspective on the “whistleblower” and the situation? On their current views on DW’s picking up the where they left on giving Corey a platform? Am I really out of line expecting this, here—on the “truth” site that was largely responsible for making him known to us?

I mean: while this particular thread is about Salla’s perspective…the entire forum is Bill’s baby….I’d think his insight would be a valuable contribution on understanding what is going on here, no? I’ve seen lots of talk of muddying waters lately…it seems like it would go so far in cleaning them up a little if we could a clear perspective from the horse’s mouth….when I tried to ask on the Blue Avian thread I must not have been clear (or there was an intentional deflection?)…am I the only Avalon poster that feels this is a “piece of the puzzle” (that could be easily resolved)?