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I don't know what you mean by your last sentence: "The nuts and bolts of the ‘cabal’istics will suddenly fade into meaninglessness when you fall out of bed" -- can you explain? Is this a higher state of awakening that you have experienced, where none of it matters anymore? I guess I'm confused by your belief that Roth advanced some positive change by her fictional solution -- and your thoughts here. Does inventing fictional happy endings change reality at some point, in your view?
awakeningmom, I am really sorry that you lost someone on 911; I am afraid it didn’t fully register with me until now, my apologies. (I also need to apologize for taking a whole week to get back to this.) I can imagine that things others say, myself included, would appear pretty insensitive when one is in that position. But the only purpose in going over this stuff is to put an end to the innocent deaths being perpetrated by the authors of this kind of atrocity.
As you say, this cabal involves ‘too many high-ups’ to be a simple matter of ‘bringing the murderers to justice’, as you also say. Here is why the ‘nuts and bolts’ (the physical mechanics) of the situation at some stage lose the relevance they undoubtedly also have. The issue is information overload: it is well known that once you start down the rabbit-hole, you soon find it is endless. Human justice tries people one at a time, and whether convicted or not, they are merely heads lopped off the hundred-headed monster.
First, you have to see the cabal behind 911 as the same people behind the UFO coverup – the so-called ‘breakaway civilization’ (Richard Dolan) who have been back engineering alien technology for sixty years. (They are the same people as the banksters behind the financial crisis.) What this means is that some aspects of 911 may be inexplicable in terms of known technological capabilities: this is the position of Judy Wood for example. She is not entirely convinced by the mini-nuke theory; however the mini-nuke theory has the advantage of making everything clear in terms of what the general public is able to understand, by tracking outdated nuclear material transiting through Israeli embassies and all the way to detonation. This may not be the full story, but it works in terms of what is supposed to be known. Likewise, it doesn’t matter if public understanding stops at the idea that cellphone calls were impossible, provided it takes that fact on board; it would only add needless complexity to say that they were actually possible by some clandestine means, since that would in any case only point to guilt and not innocence. So the first point is that any forensic investigation on which a criminal trial can be based will come unstuck when the trail goes underground – hence the need to catch the perpetrators before this happens. This is maybe where the breakaway civilization shows its limits: it already has one foot in this breakaway reality; why it doesn’t break away altogether is likely because it is parasitical and to become totally detached would kill it. In that case, the host has two ways of detaching a parasite: either it dies itself, or it develops a deterrent. It is towards the latter solution that the 911 truth, the UFO disclosure and other such movements are converging. It cannot happen at this nuts-and-bolts ‘hardware’ level: the star wars campaign is the problem, not the solution.
The second point is this ‘software’ ‘mind over matter’ aspect, where forensic investigation is ruled out from the getgo. This is the other aspect of the conspiracy, which includes psychic abilities and mind control to channel those abilities towards nefarious ends. Charles Fort talks about ‘wild talents’, ‘witchcraft’ and ‘poltergeist girls’ to describe the kind of paranormal activity that is going on all the time – he cites hundreds (thousands) of examples to prove it. His examples are very minor; but ramp up the phenomenon to the scale of the afore-described cabal: it leads to all kinds of nefarious psy activities such as MKultra and super soldiers.
Take for example ‘spontaneous human combustion’: a person is burnt to a tiny pile of ash while the chair they were sitting on remains intact. Charles Fort suggest that what has happened is a murderous hate thought that was directed by someone at the person, and since nothing but the person was visualized nothing else was affected. It would seem that something similar happened at the World Trade Center: one of the issues with the mini-nuke hypothesis is the fact that the ‘bath tub’ – the section below the water level of the Hudson River – remained intact when it had no right to do so. The whole area should have been flooded.
If such witchcraft were available to someone on a much grander scale, then it would be pointless wondering whether a planeload of people were gassed and incinerated when they could be eliminated virtually without trace by such means. I am aware of the parallel with trainloads of Jews: this would be the exact antithesis of ‘Holocaust denial on material grounds’. Some people say the Holocaust could not have happened on the scale that is claimed in the manner described. Part of the problem in establishing the exact scale is that it is so huge; and another part of the problem may be that the manner described is indeed too inadequate to be more than only half of the story. The other, occult half of the story is the get-out-of-jail joker in the hand that no one is supposed to know about.
I’ll leave it at that because, as I said, the ramifications become so huge and complex that they tend to paralyze rational thought.
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Is that what you meant by them being gone (or meaningless) once we fall out of bed?
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