Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

[iceni tribe]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Ziu2ygE_Wc

Published on 23 Apr 2015

For more than a year the encounter that took place at the Mena House Hotel, Giza Egypt, on 22 April 2015 between famed Egyptologist Dr Zahi Hawass and controversial alternative historian Graham Hancock, had been billed as"the first open debate between the representatives of two completely different versions of history." On the night of the event, however, as Graham Hancock was focussing his slides prior to giving his opening presentation, and before most of the audience had even entered the room, Dr Hawass saw that one slide contained a photograph of Hancock’s colleague Robert Bauval, originator of the Orion correlation theory with whom Dr Hawass has had disagreements for many years. Dr Hawass immediately became furiously angry and began to shout at Hancock and at Hancock’s wife Santha (Santha is wearing the white dress in the video). Hawass demanded that Hancock censor his talk to remove all references to Robert Bauval and the Orion correlation theory. When Hancock explained that the alternative view of history that he was on stage to represent could not exclude the Orion correlation and therefore could not exclude Robert Bauval, Dr Hawass, again shouting, marched out of the debating room. One member of the audience who was present managed to record part of Dr Hawass’s meltdown which is the subject of this video.
Meanwhile, as the audience began to arrive, frantic negotiations took place off stage between the conference organisers and Dr Hawass. Finally Dr Hawass agreed to return and give his talk and answer questions from the audience, but he refused absolutely to hear or see Hancock’s talk, or to engage in any debate with Hancock. Hancock therefore gave his talk to the audience without Dr Hawass present (Dr Hawass sat in a room outside the conference hall while Hancock spoke). When Hancock had finished he answered questions from the audience. Then Dr Hawass entered, gave his talk, answered questions from the audience and left. During Dr Hawass’s Q&A he was asked a question about the 11,600-year-old megalithic site of Gobekli Tepe in Turkey and whether it had any impact on his assessment of the disputed age of the megalithic Great Sphinx of Giza (which Hancock and others have theorised may be of similar antiquity). Unfortunately it appeared that Dr Hawass was completely ignorant of the existence or implications of Gobekli Tepe so he was unable to answer the question, which he passed on to the moderator who also happened to be an Egyptologist and whose knowledge of Gobekli Tepe was also clearly incomplete (for example the moderator stated that Gobekli Tepe dates from the “late eleventh millennium BC through the tenth millennium BC” whereas in fact the dates presently established for Gobekli Tepe are from 9600 BC through 8200 BC, i.e. from 11,600 years ago to 10,200 years ago). Hancock did at that point have a brief opportunity to stand up and give his own point of view on Gobekli Tepe and on its implications for the age of the Sphinx, and we will post that exchange shortly.

[Nasu]

What a big baby.. I wonder, who still has any respect for hawass? He's the crook IMHO. It can't have been much fun for Handcock, but the more hawass behaves like this, the faster his demise, so I for one encourage him to continue to lose his cool and look like a fool... N

[Wind]

Priceless!

[Cidersomerset]

This is quite an amusing account by Robert to explain the confusion about a minor
event blown out of all proportion by Zahi Hawass and some Egyption press. Robert
says he wants Zahi to retract his accusations and apologise on bended knees..LOL

Basically he was trying to cause a scandal to remove the current minister of
antiquities to regain power.....


It did not go well...LOL




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Red Ice Radio - Robert Bauval - Zahi Hawass' Khufu Cartouche Heist Claims Against Robert Bauval

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3Bmfmy8Uf28

Published on 11 Jan 2014


Robert Bauval was born in Alexandria, Egypt to Belgian parents. He is a researcher of
ancient Egypt and a bestselling author, probably best known for his Orion Correlation
Theory. His research has been featured in documentaries throughout the world. He
returns to discuss lies and accusations made about him by Zahi Hawass, which were
published in the newspaper 'Al Masry Al Yom'. Dr Zahi Hawass, ex Minister of State for
Antiquities, revealed that "the robberies of King Khufu's cartouche was done on behalf
of, Robert Bauval, an Egyptian Jew working in Belgium, who has been trying by every
means to prove that the pyramid is a Jewish and not Egyptian product." Hawass claimed
that Robert collaborated and paid two German amateur archaeologists to steal the
cartouche of the pharaoh Khufu inside a relief chamber of the Great Pyramid. He added:
"I would like to make it clear that the foreign vandals are led by an Egyptian Jew living in
Belgium, who had previously sent more than one person, who were all forbidden completely,
and with whom I have had many battles, and he wrote a book before trying to prove that
the pyramid was not Egyptian." Hawass confirmed that "it was not permitted to enter the
pyramid except through tourist companies in order to make control, which is the opposite
of what is happing now; which allowed the samples to be smuggled." Robert, who is of the
Christian Catholic faith, will address these false accusations.

[seehas]

And this shows one more time that Zahi Hawass is a Gatekeeper his main goal is to protect the official story by any means, everthing that can hurt the big lie will not be supported by Hawass.

I have a great respect for Graham Hancock for even talking to Hawass, after all Hawass did in the last 15 years.

Hawass is a puppet that only looks good if filmed by TPTB owned productions like discovery channel etc because they allways ask the right questions and even more important they never question mr hawass.

[Camilo]

....Bummer!....

[Rex]

Hmmm... Graham Hancock co-authored 3 books with Robert Bauval. Why would Zahi Hawass agree to appear in the first place? Is he that clueless?

[seehas]

Posted by deadfoot (here)
Hmmm... Graham Hancock co-authored 3 books with Robert Bauval. Why would Zahi Hawass agree to appear in the first place? Is he that clueless?

yeah was wondering why he get there in first place since graham hancock is not the kind of guy hawass usualy hangs arround with , i hope to see a interview of hancock soon.

[Cidersomerset]

In the Red Ice interview above Robert mentions this.......



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THE INDEPENDENT....

US investigates National Geographic over ‘corrupt payments’ to Egypt's keeper of antiquities

David Usborne Author Biography
New York
Monday 28 October 2013



National Geographic may be facing an unexpected challenge to its reputation as one of the world’s
most respected educational and scientific institutions amid reports that it is under investigation in
the United States over its ties to a former Egyptian official who for years held the keys to his
country’s many popular antiquities.



At issue is whether the Washington-based organisation, which in recent years has rapidly extended
its public reach beyond its well-known glossy magazine to a cable television channel and other
enterprises, violated strict US laws on payments to officials of foreign governments in contracts
starting in 2001 with Dr Zahi Hawass, who, until the overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak, was
the government’s sole gatekeeper to all things ancient Egypt.

For a decade, Dr Hawass seemingly played a critical role in giving National Geographic constant
access to the antiquities, including the pyramids and Tutankhamun treasures which because of
their popularity with the public became a lynchpin of its expansion. Fees for those services, which
according to the Vocativ news web site ranged from $80,000 (£50,000) to $200,000 a year, could
be interpreted under US law as illegal bribes.


The Justice Department declined to confirm the investigation. “As a matter of long-standing policy,
we generally do not confirm nor deny whether a matter is under investigation,” Peter Carr, a
spokesman with the Justice Department Criminal Division, told The Independent.

In a separate statement, a spokesperson for the National Geographic, said: “The National Geographic
Society has complied with all applicable laws and acted appropriately with respect to its relationship
with Dr Zahi Hawass and the government of Egypt.”

Dr Hawass was likewise indignant. “No one can bribe me,” he told Vocativ. “I’m the most famous Egyptologist.”

Dr Hawass, who lost his perch as protector of his country’s ancient treasures after the first Egyptian
uprising and fall of Mubarak, signed successive deals with National Geographic that named him an
“explorer-in-residence”. The deal gradually made him a celebrity with armchair archaeology fans in
America and wherever National Geographic TV is shown.

“When I became an ‘explorer’, I signed a contract to write books and make lectures,” he insisted.
“Based on the law, if you sign a contract to write books and make lectures, you have to get the
government’s approval, and I did!” He added: “It was a contract. It was not a bribe. I gave no
single favour to National Geographic.”

Any US investigation will be focused less on any possible wrongdoing by him but rather by National
Geographic, a charity that first began publishing its magazine with the familiar yellow borders in 1888,
with particular reference to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act which forbids US entities from paying
bribes to foreign government to gain an unfair competitive advantage.

Companies targeted by the act recently have included WalMart, accused of paying illegal fees to officials
in Mexico to speed the approval of building permits for its superstores.

The institution insists nothing was underhand in its dealings with Dr Hawass. “If there were requests
made by governmental entities about our activities, we would co-operate fully and transparently,”
a spokesperson told Vocativ.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-8909454.html


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The Vatican Heresy - Robert Bauval

The first hour is similar to the Red Ice interview , then the 2nd part starts aprox
106 mins in ,they talk about Roberts new book The Vatican Heresy.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KXQrJemiyAQ

Published on 28 Feb 2014


Egyptologist, Robert Bauval joins Dr. Rita Louise on Just Energy Radio where he
discusses some recent events occurring in Egypt and then delves into his new book
The Vatican Heresy. Were the Popes during the renaissance heretics?



http://sandrozicari.com/tag/vatican-heresy/

[Agape]

I wonder someone should advise Graham Hancock to get his suitcase out of that place ...
it does not give good feeling .

This is strange world , we still have things like countries and territories and we are even proud of having well defined borders , lots of weapons and safety checks everywhere ,
yeah , and the same people want to come in and teach us on the origin and true meaning of our own culture ..
and the world is getting out of hands . And you are payed to keep your mouth shut which saves lives of another few thousand people .. so all you can do to fix it is to yell at Graham Hancock .

Yours truly

[onawah]

Not to mention the fact that Hawass's biggest competitor for pyramid tourists, etc. is Dr. Semir Osmanagich, the discoverer of the Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids, who has been a presenting speaker at many of the same conferences as Graham Hancock, and they seem to be quite friendly.

Posted by deadfoot (here)
Hmmm... Graham Hancock co-authored 3 books with Robert Bauval. Why would Zahi Hawass agree to appear in the first place? Is he that clueless?

[JRS]

David Wilcock has a series on Gaiam TV that covers a lot of this stuff. His guests include Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval, John Anthony West, Andrew Collins, and Laird Scranton. You can see the topics at http://www.disclosuretruth.com. They go into great detail on all the Egypt info (including the history of Zawi Hawass), Gogeki Tepi, the Dogon group in Africa, and a lot more. I know that there are some folks in Avalon who hate David's guts, but IMHO this show is outstanding! It is David doing what David does best!

I just remembered today is Thursday when the newest show is released. Guess who the guest is? Graham Hancock! Going to watch! See ya later!

[Rex]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
In the Red Ice interview above Robert mentions this.......

<snip>
The Justice Department declined to confirm the investigation. “As a matter of long-standing policy,
we generally do not confirm nor deny whether a matter is under investigation,” Peter Carr, a
spokesman with the Justice Department Criminal Division, told The Independent.
</snip>

...

Our tax dollars hard at work with no transparency as usual.

I guess my kids could learn from this:

Dad: "Kids, did you finish your homework?"
A representative for my kids replies: "We can neither confirm or deny the state of said homework, or even if said homework has been assigned or not."
Dad: "Brilliant..."

[iceni tribe]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q4NnCAZcxHg

Zahi Hawass vs Graham Hancock on significance of Gobekli Tepe

[wnlight]

Dr. Semir Osmanagich may appear to be friends with Zahi Hawass, but Dr Sam (as we call him in Houston) has told me how Hawass has taken every opportunity to prevent the exploration of the Bosnian pyramid discovered by Dr Sam. You see, the Bosnian pyramid is larger and older than the great pyramids of Giza.

[onawah]

Dr. Osmanagich is an extremely enlightened individual as far as I have witnessed, and I doubt that he would be unfriendly to anyone, while Hawass is infamous for his ego and competetiveness. If you were referring to my post #11 above, I wrote that Dr. Osmanagich and Graham Hancock appear to be quite friendly.

Posted by wnlight (here)
Dr. Semir Osmanagich may appear to be friends with Zahi Hawass, but Dr Sam (as we call him in Houston) has told me how Hawass has taken every opportunity to prevent the exploration of the Bosnian pyramid discovered by Dr Sam. You see, the Bosnian pyramid is larger and older than the great pyramids of Giza.

[Cidersomerset]

Quite amusing although many may not of heard of Gobekli Tepi which has been
excavated since the mid 1990's. Someone in His position should of I would of thought .
He is Pharaoh in his own world which seems to be crumbling underneath him.


Theres some good info about Gobekli Tepe on this thread if anyones interested.

Graham Hancock on Magicians of the Gods preview interview and presentation....2015

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tation....2015

Go Becky Who ??

Yes I wondered too...LOL

An emeritus is a retired college professor or minister. When a professor stops teaching,
she might be given the title of emeritus, which basically means she can ...

http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/emeritus

[Sith73]

Love Graham Hancocks stuff. The Egyptians didn't build the Great Pyramids on the Giza Plateau. They tried to copy these great structures with smaller versions and those versions didn't last as long and you can travel throughout the country and see this. Whats in the history books is a big fat lie and Mr. Hawass will do all he can to protect what he thinks is the truth. Humanity has been lied to for such a long time and when we dig for the answers and find structures such as Gobekli Tepe we question what we been told and when we keep digging and find other evidence of past civilizations we question more and people such as Mr Hawass freak out. Keep digging because the truth is all around us on this planet and it only takes ignorant people to not see past these ancient wonders from corruption and or power of being bribed or bought off to be silent.

Mr Hawass I hate to break to you man but there are pyramids everywhere on the planet and their are many ancient sites that would make you go wow. Heck there are even Pyramids in Antarctica


Civilizations have come and gone on this planet and the ignorance just gives me a headache.

[truejedi1976]

Graham hancock is fantastic ive watched and listened to many of his interviews..he really pulls out all the stops with his evidence of human pre-history... But this hawass character ...he is looked after by the smithsonian institute..twisting the facts about the giza plateau...the great pyramid being a tomb etc....keeping the masses in the dark about the artifacts and truth of the giza plateau...this man's ego is off the chart...robert beauval spoke of the real mr hawass during numerous interviews ( capricorn radio ) very nasty piece of work apparently...but going back to mr hancock and his studies / theories this stuff should be more mainstream and optional for educational study because he gives you a real sense of.. Connection to our rich and glorious past....thankyou .....

[Sunny-side-up]

What a narrow minded, closed minded, ill informed, ill reached MSM puppet.
Credit to Mr Hancock for being so mature in the company of this Mr Hawass. (Haw Ass)