Pre-birth (and birth) memories..?

[SabreToothMom]

Hi again, I have another question for all of you wonderful people, I hope you don't mind.. I freely admit to having a complete lack of education in spirituality and only "know" what I recognize to be truth (so hard to describe) as opposed to knowing what OTHER people say are truths (I'm a sucker for Primary Sources I suppose)..

Anyway...

I'm wondering what you all make of the memories I have always had of snips of events that, once I was older, I have found out could not have possibly occurred within the confines of this incarnation's physical reality. I'm going to try to recount all of the that I remember here in one place in order to paint the clearest picture I know how.

You see, I'm the youngest of many children in my family, being born several years after the rest of my siblings. Quite a number of years before my birth my family lived on the other side of the country, yet I have a vivid memory of being with them all in the back seat of a station wagon and arriving at the home of a friend or family member out there in that distant state, and of everybody getting out of the vehicle and going upstairs to an apartment or upper level of the home we were visiting. I recall staying in the vehicle, and the feel of sunlight on me. I recall reveling in the feel of the sunlight, and then suddenly I felt that I was back wherever I had originated, and was telling somebody that I thought this was the family I was going to choose to be born into.

I recall also being with my father in the living room on the floor in front of the old black and white television set and watching a news story about Hawaii being made the newest state. It was a big deal to him. I remember asking my mother about this memory when I was about ten years old.. she looked at me strangely and said "you can't remember that. That happened more than a decade before you were born." (edited to add: Apparently this happened on August 21, 1959 - I wonder if this memory of mine was created in such a way as to make the date a guaranteed memory? Did something significant happen on that date, I wonder? Something of PA-significance, I mean... hm...)

I have a very brief memory of sitting inside a half circle shape that was much like being inside a spherical room - the wall curved behind me and also over our heads, and I was iwth some other "people" (souls?) and were listening to a mandatory talk given by someone with a higher "rank" than us (?) and it was like some sort of requirement for those who were about to reincarnate/return.

In addition to these, I have a memory of sitting in front of a square table with what appeared to be a literal game board on it complete with little game pieces, and someone asking me if I was SURE I wanted to jump back into the game considering it was more than half way through (it appeared that most of the pieces were about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way to the end of the game board). I remember saying that I was sure that I did, and others were asking me to reconsider it, and they were acting as though this was madness on my part. I was told to recall how it had gone for me last time, in an effort to persuade me to change my mind, but I was determined that I had to return.

I then have a memory of being born and being scared and squished and feeling as though I couldn't live and then suddenly it was as if a door opened wide and I was instantly HERE and it was LOUD and bright and so very intense. (For what it's worth, my mother had me via emergency surgery a month early because of toxemia/ pre-eclampsia).

I have a briefest of brief flash of a memory (not -pre-birth, but post-birth) of being in a high chair or other seat that kept me still and had a tray in front of it, and of looking at my mother and thinking at her and of her not hearing me or picking up on it, and me feeling completely upset because she wasn't responding, and neither would anything else I willed to move or respond to my needs. I felt ignored completely by the universe, and betrayed because I was accustomed to needing to do no more than think/feel/will/need something and it would generally oblige of what felt like it's own free will (even objects..??)... but now nothing would do anything and it upset me greatly. I hated being dependent on others for everything and resented that I had to go through this process all over again before I would be able to do any good work in my life.. I felt that I had a lifetime of time-wasting before me and I just was so very upset by it. I can't imagine that I was even a year old having these thoughts, but who knows?

And finally, a memory that is not pre-birth either, but which repeated itself over and over between the age of perhaps 2 and 6 or so ... the television would often go staticky from things like bad weather, someone using a hairdryer or vacuum cleaner nearby, etc... my older siblings would always come to me and say for me to do my trick to fix it, and almost without fail I would be able to stare at the television and get myself amped up inside and then point at it and it would fix itself straight away. It wasn't until I was about six years old and I was told that this wasn't because of me, and/or it was just my imagination, that I stopped being able to do this with predictability.

So... is this all just my imagination playing tricks on me? What do you all make of these memories and events? Are there records of others having experiences like mine, or should I seek out antipsychotic medication ASAP? (said as a joke more than anything, though I'm sure any number of people I could talk to about this would recommend exactly that!)

Thank you for your time in reading and perhaps replying.

[Orph]

Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.

[SabreToothMom]

Posted by Orph (here)
Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.

Thank you - it will take a bit to get past the conditioning I've been subjected to I suppose. I spent over ten years heavily medicated for depression/anxiety, and that will make anyone question their sanity IMO.

[Verdilac]

Posted by SabreToothMom (here)

Posted by Orph (here)
Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.

Thank you - it will take a bit to get past the conditioning I've been subjected to I suppose. I spent over ten years heavily medicated for depression/anxiety, and that will make anyone question their sanity IMO.

You need to give it time as some things you take on board and learn/hear can take a while to make sense of, manageable bites of information are sometimes better than trying to process everything at the same time.

I very much enjoyed reading what you wrote by the way.

[Becky]

It sounds to me like you are a very aware and spiritual /psychic person. Very few people can recall these kinds of memories. Now that you have shared this with us please do not forget them or diminish these memories. You need to be confident that you are an aware soul inside a human body and work on regaining your sovereignty. Do some more exploring to find out more about yourself. It also sounds like you've had a positive impact on your loved ones and those around you :-)
Thank you again for sharing your experiences here.

[SabreToothMom]

Avalon: Turning Fear Into Love

[raregem]

Reading your post has me tearing up b/c I long to have pre-birth memory like you and I am so happy FOR YOU !
This is so awesome! My gratitude to you for sharing. I believe you will soar and shine the more you share here. PA embraces our confusion to be sorted out like no others. PA loves you very much and I personally look forward to your memory recall. As ORPH said you KNOW. PA is the place to embrace the KNOWING.

[delfine]

SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
aha- moments, if you read those books.

[SabreToothMom]

Posted by Verdilac (here)

Posted by SabreToothMom (here)

Posted by Orph (here)
Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.

Thank you - it will take a bit to get past the conditioning I've been subjected to I suppose. I spent over ten years heavily medicated for depression/anxiety, and that will make anyone question their sanity IMO.

You need to give it time as some things you take on board and learn/hear can take a while to make sense of, manageable bites of information are sometimes better than trying to process everything at the same time.

I very much enjoyed reading what you wrote by the way.

Thank you, that's very kind of you.

You're so very right.. and right now I'm still finding my way around here and getting a feel for what types of information there is available to me here in addition to the natural digestion time and learning curve required. I'm enjoying the process immensely already.

[SabreToothMom]

Posted by Becky (here)
It sounds to me like you are a very aware and spiritual /psychic person. Very few people can recall these kinds of memories. Now that you have shared this with us please do not forget them or diminish these memories. You need to be confident that you are an aware soul inside a human body and work on regaining your sovereignty. Do some more exploring to find out more about yourself. It also sounds like you've had a positive impact on your loved ones and those around you :-)
Thank you again for sharing your experiences here.

You're welcome, and thank you for your kind reply. I always come into my threads with trepidation and then end up smiling and feeling better about myself. I suppose that's why I said before "Avalon: Turning Fear Into Love"... because of exactly that.

I hope that I don't forget them now that they're shared! I hadn't considered that but I suppose it is quite possible. That's how it works for my dreams and any psychic impressions or intuitive/gut feelings I get in relation to missing persons cases (something I've been working on for a few years now and something I consider a personal mission in my life to continue trying to do.. I think I can really learn a lot here to help me in that regard, without a doubt). I often will get something, type it out, and then it's gone and I don't make a memory of it, probably because it's not meant to be "for me", it's meant for someone else, I'm just the means to an end. But in these stories I told here today, those are memories of my own soul's journey, and I don't think that I'm as likely to forget them because of that.. at least I hope I'm not!

[SabreToothMom]

Posted by raregem (here)
Reading your post has me tearing up b/c I long to have pre-birth memory like you and I am so happy FOR YOU !
This is so awesome! My gratitude to you for sharing. I believe you will soar and shine the more you share here. PA embraces our confusion to be sorted out like no others. PA loves you very much and I personally look forward to your memory recall. As ORPH said you KNOW. PA is the place to embrace the KNOWING.

That is so sweet and lovely. I feel undeserving of all the kindness showered on me here, and don't quite know what to do with it. I feel a little bit like I'm in the middle of one of those time lapse movies of a flower growing, where they look kind of mangled and twisty-turney for awhile (that's the part I feel like I'm experiencing right now) before suddenly opening and blooming with a great big lovely flower at the end (that's the part I hope happens).

I do want - and plan - to continue to share here.. I already have been asking myself "is there anything else?" and I keep thinking of a couple of tiny little incidents, but I feel like I should just take one thing at a time for now. I'm so full of questions about the validity of my own perception due to the years and years of being surrounded by and bombarded with information that suggests people "like me" have mental illnesses, and the medications that they gave me one after another during the 90s, that it is just taking me some time to decide if I can really let my own guard down or not.. not between me and you all, but between me and myself I think... I'm still figuring it all out I guess. I'm a work in progress (aren't we all?).

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Posted by delfine (here)
SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
aha- moments, if you read those books.

I pulled these up on amazon immediately upon reading your suggestion, and see that it suggests barnes and noble carries one or both of them. I will check them out in person or order them, since I think that will help me quite a bit. Thank you for the suggestion!

[delfine]

You are very welcome. There´s even a Michael Newton FB-group, where many interesting discussions are going on. Maybe you would consider
to join: https://www.facebook.com/groups/122382797796840/

[Selene]

You may also want to look at a fascinating 1982 book: “Reincarnation?” by Ian Wilson. http://www.amazon.com/Reincarnation-...+reincarnation

Wilson discusses a number of cases where individuals have clear memories of life among their family before they were actually born here; either of being near and among their parents and future family, or of places ‘off planet’ before returning here.

You might find these reassuring. You are not alone in this, my dear sister, and welcome back to here!



Cheers,

Selene

[ghostrider]

inside the human being is an immortal spirit that never dies , never sleeps even in the deepest sleep , it records all thoughts ,actions , and feelings... the plejaren say if the spirit in you is very advanced it can remember past lives , meaning your real self is very ancient , like 50 million years old or older ... one of the very first things said by the plejaren was the spirit form in the human being is immortal ...

[ghostrider]

I remember being in diapers , barefoot , sitting on my toy tractor , watching my grandfather brush hog our land ... I remember everything about that day , it was late afternoon , summertime ... that was and is as far back as I can go ... I was born premature... my mother said I didn't have fingernails or eyelashes ... I remember sitting on that green tractor was the first moment I knew , I know , I can remember , everything I see and hear around me and can record and remember .. and what is this voice in my head ???

[Fox]

Thank you very much for sharing that. Definitely not crazy. I had to get over that feeling of insanity after I experienced a state of bliss (samadhi, so I've been told). Lasted for a whole year and I still get fleeting feelings of having lost my mind, but I've mostly reigned that all in. It's hard work learning to love and appreciate yourself and your experiences. I have a very strong memory of being in the womb (possibly). I was surrounded by a red/pink/veiny material, it was all around me and I existed inside of it and it was so warm and comfortable. It was my whole world and it was undulating all the time, but very slowly. Felt like a thin balloon material. I assume and like to think that was a strange moment of consciousness that I had before birth. I have no other way of rationalizing it.

[Snowflower]

That's just really cool, Sabre! Those are good memories! I've had only one pre-birth memory and it wasn't quite as wonderful. It was in answer to my question, why did my father hate me, and was the night my mother told him she was pregnant again. He had married her knowing that she most likely would never have children, because of a medical vaginal treatment with silver when she was nine years old. She thought he was "self-sacrificing" because he married her anyway. But he didn't want children and I was the third one. That night they had a rip roaring fight and I was exhibit number one, at about a month along.

[SabreToothMom]

Posted by Fox (here)
Thank you very much for sharing that. Definitely not crazy. I had to get over that feeling of insanity after I experienced a state of bliss (samadhi, so I've been told). Lasted for a whole year and I still get fleeting feelings of having lost my mind, but I've mostly reigned that all in. It's hard work learning to love and appreciate yourself and your experiences. I have a very strong memory of being in the womb (possibly). I was surrounded by a red/pink/veiny material, it was all around me and I existed inside of it and it was so warm and comfortable. It was my whole world and it was undulating all the time, but very slowly. Felt like a thin balloon material. I assume and like to think that was a strange moment of consciousness that I had before birth. I have no other way of rationalizing it.

Yes! That is exactly what it was like!! Except then it got all scary and squishy and it lasted a long long time and I felt distressed and then was born suddenly! I don't know if my heart rate slowed or what, but there was definitely a scary moment in the squishing (maybe all babies are scared during birth - seems likely I guess now that I think about it!)... that is just so exactly what I was thinking. I was able to come in and out of my body during that time in there though, I felt like I could leave it to grow and I could come down into it when I felt like it during the process but had no choice but to come down into it and stay when that birthing time came. I felt like I wasn't quite ready yet but suddenly it was time and I had to leave everyone and come back RIGHT THEN, and like that was part of my distress for a long time here. It was almost as though my mother having a c-section four weeks early was something I wasn't ready for or expecting, and it seemed like it caught me by surprise that it was time for me to go into my body and stay there, and it was the same knid of feeling of sudden terror and second-guessing that a woman has when she realizes for the first time that she is in labor with her first child and there is no turning back, she has to do it and that's that. Except the woman in labor will only feel like this for a couple of days. A soul being reborn into a new body feels like this for, oh you know, the next 85 years or so I guess (or some of us do)...

Thank you for sharing your story, it feels so nice to know that if I *am* crazy, I'm in good company!

[SabreToothMom]

Posted by Selene (here)
You may also want to look at a fascinating 1982 book: “Reincarnation?” by Ian Wilson. http://www.amazon.com/Reincarnation-...+reincarnation

Wilson discusses a number of cases where individuals have clear memories of life among their family before they were actually born here; either of being near and among their parents and future family, or of places ‘off planet’ before returning here.

You might find these reassuring. You are not alone in this, my dear sister, and welcome back to here!



Cheers,

Selene

Thank you Selene. I will definitely check this book out as well! I do think I will find it reassuring, and that is definitely the perfect word for what I need - reassurance. Thanks again!

[SabreToothMom]

Posted by Snowflower (here)
That's just really cool, Sabre! Those are good memories! I've had only one pre-birth memory and it wasn't quite as wonderful. It was in answer to my question, why did my father hate me, and was the night my mother told him she was pregnant again. He had married her knowing that she most likely would never have children, because of a medical vaginal treatment with silver when she was nine years old. She thought he was "self-sacrificing" because he married her anyway. But he didn't want children and I was the third one. That night they had a rip roaring fight and I was exhibit number one, at about a month along.

That is such a difficult story to read, and far more difficult to live I'm sure. I'm sorry you have had to live with the feelings of your father hating you. It's interesting you chose to share that story with me, because my husband had told me (rather off-handedly) years ago that he didn't want children, and here we are with three of them.. no he doesn't hate them but his feelings towards ME are certainly strong and varied at times... I have to wonder if there's some kind of synchronicity in your telling and me living such similar experiences..

Thank you for sharing.

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Posted by ghostrider (here)
I remember being in diapers , barefoot , sitting on my toy tractor , watching my grandfather brush hog our land ... I remember everything about that day , it was late afternoon , summertime ... that was and is as far back as I can go ... I was born premature... my mother said I didn't have fingernails or eyelashes ... I remember sitting on that green tractor was the first moment I knew , I know , I can remember , everything I see and hear around me and can record and remember .. and what is this voice in my head ???

Hi ghostrider, do you have any idea how old you may have been at that time? Just curious I guess, no real reason for asking. I love the part where you say "and what is this voice in my head???" because I imagine that probably was something we all experienced but can't remember, and I think it would be amusing to recall.

My only similar experience was one of telling myself I needed to remember that we don't think in words/language until we limit ourselves to it, after learning to talk. And it boxes us in, thinking in words.

I don't know exactly what that MEANS, only that I told myself I needed to remember it.